In the wake of the JPMorgan Fail-Whale trading scandal, there is now renewed pressure on regulators not to give in to industry lobbying seeking exemptions to the Volcker Rule banning proprietary trading for Banks who want a government guarantee on their liabilities. So it is important to lay out the reasoning behind not allowing an exemption for so-called ‘hedging’ trades.
The short answer to bankers bleating about the need for some freedom to hedge their positions in the market is that hedging trades tend to blow up. The Fail-Whale trade was a beautiful illustration in point. The longer answer is something like the following.
Here is a rough analogy for what hedging trader extraordinaire Bruno Iksil was, allegedly, doing:
He arrived at the virtual roulette table we call the ‘derivatives market’ and saw that his bank had laid down a multi-billion dollar bet in chips on various black numbers (recall, a roulette table has 18 black numbers, 18 red numbers and a green Zero).
So being the prudent hedging trader he was, he ran the numbers and said, “the wise thing to do here is to lay down an equivalent multi-billion dollar bet on Red. That way, if the bets on black numbers fall through, we still save ourselves from losses by winning on the ‘Red’ bet”. Brilliant strategy.
But then he thought, “gosh, we could lose on Red too, so I’d better hedge that as well! I’ll put down a further bet on ‘Black’, just in case the Red bet falls through too”. So he puts down a yet further massive bet on Black. Wow, now the bank’s position was double hedged! He hedged the first huge bet on some black numbers with an equally large bet on Red, and hedged the latter with a further bet on Black.
The bank was now so well-hedged this could not possibly go wrong. This is the kind of prudence the Hedging exemption to the Volcker rule is meant to allow. See? What’s not to like?
Then the wheel starts spinning, and the ball settles on … suspense … the green Zero!
Golly, who could have foreseen that?
The bank loses a bundle, its share price tumbles, and poor Iksil shakes his head at his bad luck – despite his flawless “hedging” strategy, takes his million dollar bonus from previous trades, and walks across the street to the next hedge fund.
If this sounds incredibly stupid, that’s because it is. A more generous account will involve complex mathematical models about how winning on red is so well correlated with losing on black (“more than 9 out of ten times, it will work!!”), and how no hedge is perfect, and so on and so on. But this is basically what these “risk-mitigation” trades amount to.
We have seen it again and again.
Look at Deutsche Bank’s 3.4 billion dollar loss in 2009 (here, scroll down to Sales and Trading Revenue). It was attributable to the Bank “hedging” a long-position on US automotive sector bonds by buying CDS (a kind of tradable insurance policy) against losses on those positions. How could they lose money on a hedge? Because, once again, the hedge was wasn’t really a hedge. It was a bet, a bet that a third outcome – where they lose money on both the long and the short positions – wouldn’t come about. And they lost that bet. Because, as the bank euphemistically puts it, there was ‘widened basis risk’. In other words, they were betting on the shorts falling faster than the long positions rose. They weren’t hedging at all.
Look at Morgan Stanley’s 9 billion dollar loss in 2008 on a similar bet. They ‘hedged’ a short position on some risky derivatives with a long position on somewhat correlated derivatives, where a loss on the first would be offset by gains on the latter. Oops, the correlation broke down. Whocoodanode?!
And so the list goes on.
All these losses are attributable to the hedge being ‘imperfect’. That is, when they put on a ‘hedge’ trade, they are not actually buying an insurance policy against losses on some position they have on the books. They buy some cheaper insurance, on something roughly correlated with their pre-existing position. In our analogy, they are at that roulette table, gambling on the likelihood that the ball doesn’t land on the green Zero. It isn’t hedging, it’s gambling.
To take another analogy, it is like owning a house, and not buying insurance against wind-damage on your own house, but on your neighbor’s house, where the policy is much cheaper (since his house is more wind-resistant), and doing so in the hope that if your house suffers wind-damage, so will his. It is just irresponsible.
So why don’t they just do ‘perfect’ hedges, buying insurance directly against losses?
First, for the obvious reason that there is no money in that. Banks make their extraordinary profits by gambling, not by spending money offsetting risk. Second, and more justifiably, there often isn’t an insurance product that does directly offset losses on assets they have.
So, to the extent that banks should be allowed to hedge against losses on their assets, (1) these hedges should be directly correlated – i.e. it must be an insurance policy on that asset. (2) They should be held, as should the asset, until maturity (i.e. not put on the trading books, or held as Assets For Sale). And (3) the traders and managers charged with hedging should not be paid bonuses.
But, naturally, real risk mitigation is the kind of thing banks have no interest in. Where’s the money in that?




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What a bunch of muddle-headed, demeaning pontification.
What, money for nothing? What fools do you take your proselytes to be?
There are “oops” in gambling? Who cudda known?
Smoke and mirrors. What’s the insurer going to “hedge” against?
Leave the opacity and fraud to professionals, the insurers. Perhaps it’s be easier to prosecute, assuming the assurers weren’t the regulators (fat chance that).
Risk abatement is bourgeoisie profit sharing. The reason it is failing is because a huge amount of their mutual profit was based on scams, which is, of course, the root problem.
“What’s the insurer going to “hedge” against?”
Right. Someone’s got to take on the risk, right? It doesn’t just disappear. But there are lots of funds out there willing and able to take on that risk, and that should be allowed. It just shouldn’t be deposit-taking govt guaranteed banks.
Not sure what you find ‘demeaning’…?
Obviously, the insult to my intelligence.
No solution to the root problem, comrade?
I’m sorry about your intelligence. any harm to your intelligence was purely coincidental…
Solution?
- Slap a 1% tax on banks with more than 50 billion in assets. They’ll be unviable at that size and so cut themselves down to simpler and manageable units.
- Raise the capital requirements on derivatives trading to safe levels, which will eliminate most of the market (that basically uses derivatives to lever up on risk).
- Dissolve FINRA which is killing most investor suits against Wall Street
- Nationalize the various clearing houses.
- Tax bonuses (all variable compensation) at 90%.
… that’s a start at least…
There you go again.
That’s no start. That’s an evasion. How you gonna guarantee the bourgeoisie profit, if you get rid of the scams, comrade?
Yeah, that’s the key nugget. Mutualize the losses to the citizenry.
Talk about welfare queens.
Nationalizing has nothing to do with where the losses go. Like the FDIC – again a government institution – it should be funded wholly by industry premiums.
Anyway, I’m curious. What’s your solution?
Dream on, comrade. Even if you play legalist and ignore the history, you can see the nation is the backstop for our glorious capitalists and compradors.
Why do you want to know my solution? Yours is the best of all possible worlds?
Classic vapid condescension.
Relax, friend. I really am interested.
The obvious “anti-cure”. Socialize the profits.
Rec’d partially on spec, but also because I am a big fan of muddle-headed, demeaning pontification. Can’t help myself. ;o)
Just dropped in to say that I thank you for the last two responses over yonder, I partially understand, but can’t take the time to ask more questions/concerns now. (I’ve been packing great-grandma’s Bavarian china for the kids to take home, they’re watching their church services on some little device, and you might see what a 180 degree deviation life here is from talking about my issues with that portion of Title VII, lol!)
Try to be back later if time permits, Pug. Bottom line might be: I have almost no faith (or less, lol!) in regulators now.
Thanks for the rec, dear.
I do know how you feel about regulators. Kinda hard to think in terms of “intelligent, principled” regulations when the regulators have little of the former and none of the latter…
Anyway, doing my best here.
;0)
Okay thanks. I see better where you’re coming from.
Leaving aside Ludwig’s marxism -or so it seems- Wm.BLack explains hedges – what Obey is calling ‘perfect hedges’- and gives the JPMorgan loss as an example.
What the banks are doing is what Black calls ‘hedginess’ which is akin
to ‘truthiness’
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/5/15/ex_financial_regulator_william_black_austerity#transcript
15 minutes into the video is where to ‘start’.
Posted this in WD’s last but thought I’d bring it here as well:
http://www.pepperlaw.com/publications_update.aspx?ArticleKey=2330
LOL! Love the coinage – ‘hedginess’. Beautiful. Hope it catches on.
Thanks for the links ubetcha! The part about differences in treatment of creditors vis a vis SIFIs is a bit vague. Is that about derivative counterparties not getting preferential treatment? Hope so, in any case…
Just quote the transcript, ubet. Black says:
If the market were not a con, you’d be paying exactly your expected losses, plus commission, like insurance. There’s no profit in that and neither is that a perfect hedge.
In other words, the perfect hedge neutralizes variation in returns — you are not prepaying your expected losses, the perfect hedge pays them for you.
To be precise, risk is “The chance that an investment’s actual return will be different than expected. Risk includes the possibility of losing some or all of the original investment.” Non-fraudulent risk mitigation/abatement, as I’ve already said, is bourgeois profit sharing, or guaranteed returns. Now, wouldn’t this be a convenient system should profits actually be declining, and I needed a way to make compradors get the point when the market finally had to be deflated?
Wot! Wot! My perfect hedge is fucked! Call in the state and gimme my returns. Wahhhhh!
Nah, there’re no conspiracies like that says the bubble-headed comprador.
Dream on, dufuses.
Scandal? What scandal? Its a trading loss. Trading losses happen every day. Ohh no! JPM’s trading book is down 2%…..CATASTROPHE!!!!!!!
Yeah you keep telling yourself that. First it was a tempest in a teapot, then it was 2 billion, then 3 billion, then 5 billion, then 7 billion, then 100 billion in exposure to high yield european debt with a deficient hedge, then another 100 billion long position in CDS in a bear market. What could possibly go wrong?
You’re hilarious.
Okay, I’m calling it a night. Thanks to all those who stopped by to read.
Uh if bets are honest should not an equal bet for and against cancel each others profits? But from what I understand the bets where not equal?
Yeah, takes yer 5T (or whatever the fuck it was) losses like good crapitalist men, ya wimps!
Please rephrase the question.
Imperfect hedges should be banned they are gambling and gamblers no matter how smart they think they are will lose to the house eventually can I get an Amem?
How if hedging bets is not equal the obvious implication I was trying to get readers to go for is its gambling for profit at risk everyone who knows a gambler knows they ALL claim to win look at Bill Bennet lost a million dollars but still claimed he won more than he lost.
The last bank bailout shows that gamblers lose to the House is a given. Obama’s backing of the house in Wendy’s diary read the comments after you left shows that we will lose more SS and Medicare to bailout the house so the gamblers don’t get called on their debts.
Thanks, Obey. Excellent diary!
The “bets” are sold as a means to stabilize returns which has a number of uses. Our wacked out, gambling, ex-physicists exploited this by
a) hedging their leveraged “investments” so losses wouldn’t eat up their seed.
b) promising stability on confidence games like housing appreciation.
Please add your own tricks.
The put training wheels on crapitalism, charged the compradors for a spin, and took kickbacks from their orthopedists when the wheels fell off.
This capitalism you have been sold is a farce of itself.
And “real” capitalism is theft, in case any morons get the idea I’m leaving loopholes there.
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Hey Obey@4 ,These solutions are good ,but the underlying presupposal is that we have some power over government .I believe we ceded our power to corporate globalization and the government has turned on its people .I’m all for your measures ,but even with the power to implement them .I don’t see why they won’t ignore all rules and laws and still enjoy bail-out socialism via moral hazard .
GFY
Yep, these guys all play with OPM. So if they lose, someone else pays. Sometimes, if its big enough, Uncle Sam pays. I like the idea of outrageous taxes on large salaries so we take the incentive out. Well at least some of it. If that doesn’t work, then why not put a few pf them in jail?o forgot, they have insurance all paid up against that.
Just read something from Marshall Auerbach. Says any Greek exit from the euro will likely not be orderly. Points out there are 400 trillion of CDS contracts referencing the euro. Holy shit? That makes lehman look like a hiccup.
Don’t worry, Jamie says it’s a blip.
I take Auerbach and the entire MMT posse very seriously .My contention is that Germany ,once again ,is confronted with hyper-inflation .If they pull out of the euro the bundesbank will be stuck with trillions in exposures,and if they try to keep the eurozone in tact ,they need trillions to keep sovereign /banking bond yields from soaring with attendant runs on the banks This is the why I believe German elites and its troika enforcers will be undaunted pursuant to looting hard assets via the austerity casus belli ,which exhibits the most naked version of class warfare thus far .
WOT, Have I insulted you?
Sorry, I just don’t follow the basic point of the analogy given. If I put, say, $1800 in bets down on the black numbers, and another $1800 on the reds, and assuming away for the moment the green joker, then how do I win in the first place, assuming that the pointer hits one of the reds OR one of the blacks, each of which has $100 of my money on it, whatever one the pointer hits?
How is this profitable in the first place? Once I follow that, I can calculate in the green joker.
Thanks, all.
Amen – sort of.
Interest rate hedging has been a viable product since the 1970′s, causing no problems.
And Indeed the literature is full of proofs that the stock market does not yield more than the bond market once you hedge the extra risks of stocks – a problem for corporations not wanting to fund the annual payment to the pension plan since agree with that statement meant dropping the interest rate used to value pensions and determine the contribution – which means a larger required contribution.
And near perfect hedging works well – but sadly no regulator has determined what correlation – over what period – with what testing – is adequate to be called near perfect hedging. So we get crap like credit default swaps – a concept that is effectively casualty insurance but without the reserve or the math needed to actually price the product.
I hope Treasury does not duck the task of limiting what is permitted as a hedge.
Yes, the analogy is imperfect. In roulette you’d break even, in the analogous derivatives market you’d make a marginal profit.
Hi Papau. Yes some imperfect hedges can be useful. But (1) the process of managing a dynamic hedge can be dangerous. And (2) I don’t think there is a principled way of distinguishing imperfect hedges from basis trades or curve trades. And that would lead to far too much abuse, and importantly, added tail risk. So I’d prefer an imperfect DUM rule that would keep all risks relatively visible, rather than a perfectly calibrated smart rule that regulators wouldn’t be able to implement adequately.
I don’t think so. At least I’m not totally without hope. Europe for instance is getting closer to implementing a transactions tax. And if it works, then that puts some pressure on US authorities.
Thanks for stopping by, PW!
Right. Gotta love how shareholders pay for any legal fees regarding customer AND regulator AND shareholder suits.
FWIW, I am a trader who NEVER hedges. If one really believes one can predict what will happen, then you ought to believe in your vision enough to play it straight, and take your hit if you are wrong. The fact that various complex hedging strategies now take precedence over the goal of just “getting it right” actually, from my POV, inadvertently concedes that the hedgers do not believe in their own predictive abilities. Think about that one for a few minutes.
Interesting insight!
The problem with traders like Iksil is that they are entirely dependent on their models. They are basically flying blind, like a pilot flying by his instruments, and if their models are off, they crash. And with these models, in a crisis, they are *always* off as the correlations they rely on break down.
In the old days, when I was still willing to consult “financial advisors,” it always cracked me up to see that, without exception, they would all proclaim that markets could not be “timed,” i.e., accurately predicted, and that therefore their strategic approaches did not even attempt to do that. IOW, they were “predicting” results ten years out, while conceding they could not predict what would happen tomorrow or next week. Cognitive dissonance much???? Now consider how much the financial industry spends on convincing the public that they know everything there is to know about making money through buying and selling stocks. PT Barnum is smiling.
Traders and traitors have different victims.
Bushwah. Don’t automatically downgrade a skillset just because you don’t understand it. Edgy contrarian traders are the most direct way to keep prices appropriate and honest.
once upon a time in a land far far away there were banks that borrowed money from account holders, paid them interest on that money, and loaned it to borrowers, charging the borrower a few percent more than the bank was paying.
The good old days…before banks became lovers of proprietary trading; oh yeah: and it was made LEGAL. Almost makes ya misty-eyed with nostalgia, doesn’t it? ;o)
I have not seen an explanation for why “investors” continue to put money in the hands of these type of people.
One possible explanation….
Since everything else in business is corrupt, why wouldn’t that relationship, “bank” and investor, be corrupted?
time to start putting the word “bank” in quotation marks. they’re not doing what most people think of as being a bank.
Hey, the comprador motto: Since everything
elsein business is corrupt what does it matter?Every crook’s got an excuse.
YOu may find this book interesting
Long ago when I was in the trade, I found Schwager’s books really revealing; ever read them?
The markets have really changed from when a producer would sell his product and then buy or sell futures to hedge that cash position he acquired (or implement a trading strategy to hedge that position); of course commodities have always been considered a bigger ‘risk’ than stocks and there was a time when the saying was ‘only the big boys play in commodities’(which included the currencies and bonds).
It’s sad that derivatives have come to include other than straight options.
An angle.
That sounds like a mish-mash of ye golden age and today. Hedge a cash position? Isn’t that a derivative?
Too much jargon jelloes the brain.
Bugger; googling didn’t yield the quote I was trying to find; I’d thought it was from Frontline’s Money, Power and Wall Street. It was a hedger saying: If it’s in any way legal, and you’re NOT doing it, you’re fucking crazy! Yeah; some swingin’ dick shit.
This was the one you and I were echoing:
“In the old days, Wall Street and the finance industry provided essential services. Banks financed things that got done, like railroads or the interstate system, things that finance was supposed to be about.
“What has entirely changed is that they’re in the business of making money for themselves. If it happens that they can also finance something along the way, okay. But that is no longer part of the core business.” – Denis Kelleher, Better Markets, Inc.”
This page has a lot of quotes from the seris, a few of the ones on ‘Reforming the system’ at the bottom I used at the end of my recent diary.
I’m with Volcker: a good start would be reinstating Glass-Steagal, but I’d add returning the CFTC to its original status of ‘providing an essential service’, too. And fuck Bill Clinton, by the by. With all due respect, of course. ;o) And only figuratively.
Looks interesting, Ubetcha. I’ll take a look.
Commodities-markets used to be pretty straight-forward. Even third-world farmers knew how to play in futures. Now I talk to hedge fund boys here doing algo trading and its all gibberish to me. They swear their model has been back-tested six ways to sunday, and then the next year they’re bankrupt. But just moving on to set up a new hedge fund. And round it goes…
I don’t think going back to Glass-Steagal is near sufficient. The whole ’80s catastrophe with junk bonds, leveraged-buy outs destroying manufacturing and labour unions, the S&L crisis, all that happened under Glass-Steagal. And the whole problem of out-of-control big banks started with the massive bailout during the latin American crisis orchestrated by none other than … Volcker. The whole 30 year bond bull-market the bansk are still dependent on started with … Volcker. So fuck him too, frankly.
So sure, cut back on prop trading. But *then* also cut the banks down to manageable size. Regulate the hell out of the shadow-banking sector. Destroy the wholesale short-term funding market – (repos, commercial paper) – because that is making the banks very vulnerable to bank-runs. And tax deposits over a certain size. Rich bastards should do their job and put their money to work investing in real assets instead of just parking their cash. (that last one is an idea that is getting some traction in … Switzerland! Of all places. Ha.)
Socialize the profits, comrade.
Er…she did say ‘a good start’ and added, implicitly, reversing the CFMA. And the video I linked to was at that mark planning ahead to unwind banks in trouble, though I admit I don’t remember if it were specifically about TBTFs. Of course that has to happen, but so do major changes at the Fed which allows, encourages the profits gained by parking the ill-gotten Fed Bounty back at the ranch.
Good point on Volcker and the S&L crisis; he is old now, but it made me think about the lessons Stiglitz and S. Johnson must have learned from their time at the World Bank and IMF; maybe Paul has forgotten some the history as I had. ;o)
The ‘repos’: I’d read a bit about those last week, didn’t learn much really, but I’m sure you’re right.
I do love the idea of banks as public utilities, and folks like Ellen Brown seem to be making some traction with their ideas of community banking and borrowing. The ‘new economic visions’ series at Alternet is pretty cool.
Anyway, go get ‘em, Pug! And good on Sweezerland. ;o)
repos are just short-term loans in exchange for financial assets posted as collateral. Bank runs in the repo-market – repo loans getting pulled back – are what killed Bear Stearns, Lehman and AIG.
and, yes, the sweezers are doing some good things these days. encouraging stuff.
Ta, dearest; get some sleep. ;o)