Last year, 35 NATO(including American, of course) troops were killed by Afghan soldiers or police supposedly allied with them. So far this year, the official total is 40, including 9 Americans killed in just the last week. The Guardian has a pretty good, pretty short piece talking about the problem and the official American reaction:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/21/barack-obama-afghanistan-green-on-blue
Clearly, this trend is accelerating. American and other NATO troops train Afghans to be a part of the security forces to protect the American-installed Karzai regime once the Americans withdraw. In return, some of the same Afghans who are thus trained turn their weapons on their foreign “benefactors” as soon as they get the chance to do so, even though that usually means they themselves will be killed in turn almost immediately.
Why in the world would they do this? Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but I do not recall similar incidents taking place in either South Vietnam or South Korea, and if they did, certainly not on this scale. Similarly, American interventions in Latin America never ran into anything quite like this. Oh, a few American-trained locals might have turned, but only after they could shoot back and have some hope of survival. This seems to be a uniquely Afghan situation.
It comes as no surprise to me whatsoever. Anyone who is at all familiar with Afghan history know that the Afghans are a fiercely independent people who have resisted conquerors of multiple nationalities and ethnicities since at least the time of Alexander the Great. Genghis Khan had the sense to largely leave them alone. Other empire-builders, notably the British, the Russians, and now the Americans, not so much.
Afghans really, really, don’t like foreign rule. And, in the end, the would-be foreign occupiers always go home with their tails between their legs.
Clearly, the American Occupation of Afghanistan is failing.
So. Why is it that, in the middle of a presidential election campaign, Mitt Romney and the Republicans aren’t flailing Obama with his obvious failure to pacify this rebellious province of the American Empire? I submit it is because the Republicans, just like the Democrats, are serving the same masters here. Afghanistan sits right in the middle of the most economical path for natural gas pipelines from the gas-rich former Soviet “stans” to ports on the Arabian Sea. It is also home to very profitable mineral deposits, if only the unruly locals would cooperate and let the multinational corporations do their extraction in peace.
There’s also the fact that it was a Republican administration which initially chose to try to “nation build” Afghanistan in America’s own corporatist image instead of just engaging in a punitive expedition to show the Taliban(and every other government around the world) it’s a very bad idea to harbor another foreign group such as Al-Qaeda and allow them to launch an attack against the American homeland from their soil.
The Afghans, even the Taliban, understand the American desire for revenge after 9/11. They would have accepted the American invasion, even the installation of a temporary puppet government, as an understandable reaction to the attacks of 9/11/2001. The Afghans certainly understand revenge.
But they will never tolerate foreign occupation. Different animal.
The Republicans, including Romney, want the same thing Obama does: an Afghan government that will allow Corporate America to have its way with Afghanistan. Hence: crickets from them on this issue.
The M$M is no better. Oh, they report the “green on blue” attacks, but with an air of either the tragedy of a natural disaster or of puzzlement, maybe righteous indignation, at Afghan ingratitude. They’d much rather bloviate about the latest inane ramblings of some Teabagger dumbass from Missouri who they once thought was a shoo-in to be the next United States Senator from there.
No surprises there, either.
Now, if the Cleveland Browns win seven regular season games this fall, that would surprise me.



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Don’t forget .. this is one more way to control and dominate Iran! We gotta do that because they are an existential threat to actually no one.
All we’re ever going to hear from Democrats or Republicans is that the war must go on and on and on. Substantive change will not be affected from within the two-party system.
Exactly. Iran’s been a thorn in our hegemonic side since the Shah was deposed. I’m reminiscent of the days when I bowled alongside uniformed Iranian fighter pilots at Nellis AFB NV. Returning to those days my be the whole disastrous point. I’m not an expert on geopolitical nonsense; but I suspect that our continued involvement also has something to do with Neocons/AIPAC, the MIC, neo-liberalism, and fascist/militaristic propaganda.
Do you mean the Iran that is getting laundered dollars from Iraq to circumvent the sanctions. Iraq who we had previously liberated.
That Iran ?
Strange in comparison how (according to Madeleine Albright) the Iraq sanctions were worth the death of five hundred thousand children.
Seems that the only things “liberated” there were the banks and the oil money. It appears now that we’re prepared to compromise with “our-man” al-Maliki for that much.
Hardly worth the lives and resources.
Everything that we touch in the Middle-east destabilizes and turns to crap.
Ah….the Midas Touch.
The Midas touch in reverse with hair, teeth, eyeballs and rubble.
Trillions spent for death and destruction– like Nam– with nothing to show for the ignoble effort. As it should be. But there’s always the next war… we’re fixing the intelligence on that one right now.
You have an unfortunate mess at QB.
Glad to see you posted this OB…thank you … recommended…
The R vs. D junk depends on its two teams employing suspended disbelief,fact and truth cherry picking and always-always — to do the R vs. D Kabuki Theatre Skits with lots of zealous fervor and conviction while sidelining personal/political conduct that would suggest integrity or some working knowledge of what hypocrisy is.
As seen on this very FDL page to the right of these comments — a big pro Obama cheerleading item call “First Cameraman” which shows Obamareagan posing as the Big Guy Who Deserves Camera Time. What is more galling is when one first pulls up FDL one sees this pro Obama spin red backgrounded box stacked over the FDL Support Bradley Manning declaration. Like Obama is not the one human who could have spared Bradley Manning lots of hell and torment for showing us some truth.
FDL wants to do this why? It is insulting to any of us who see what kind of bastard Barack Obama has been towards Bradley Manning and sincerely are sickened by what Bradley Manning is being made to endure. Barack Obama the WarCriminal clearly is being pushed as the one to elect here at FDL some shameless Dbot types. Any thinking or knowing person acquainted with the Bradley Manning story knows the part POTUS Obama has played in it. This is political hypocrisy at its rawest.
Supporting POTUS Obama but playing on Bradley Manning story for some easy to claim and run site moral window dressing.
POTUS Obama has now also come out as The Moral Sage with his slicked up response to the Akins stupidity — Barack Obama — Killer of Innocents — both foreign and American — now wants to put on a moral cape with Obama saying “rape is rape” like Barack Obama is the go to guy for moral guidance. But it gave the Dbots/Obots more fuel to throw on the R vs D bonfires they like to keep hot. Simpletons.
Too bad about what Afghanistan has become which is Vietnam Again in so much the only way NATO can win is kill two thirds of the Afghans and put the remaining third in concentration prisons.
As noted in OB’s diary above this occupation of Afghanistan is about corporatists desires for energy and mineral access, means to move both and keeping the Russians and Chinese from doing what Americans seek to do. Obama has not been killing Afghans for no reason. Obama is killing Afghans to put fear and dread into Afghans every day and night so they will give Obama and his corporatist backers what they want. A nice,docile colony that serves WashingtonDC two party regime and its American Militarism,Corporatism and Dollar Hegemon masters.
Karzai is a puppet stringed despot who rules what? Not much it seems. But he is a useful puppet for WashingtonDC. Now should Karzai begin to set up deals with the Russians and/or Chinese that the Americans and their NATO stooges do not like Karzai will soon likely get some Obama rub out action. POTUS Obama is a warmonger and a warcriminal and clearly post Jan.20,2009 is the BFF of warcriminals G.W.Bush and R.B.Cheney. The D vs. R junk is just for the dummies — Obama,Bush,Cheney and several ranks down in both Ds and Rs camps are on the same American Empire page.
Too bad the simpleminded Dbots/Obots either do not get this or do not want to get it. Obama plays the O&D bots over and over.
But as we see here at FDL Obama is going to get the cheerleading and misdirection assists no matter what.
Bradley Manning’s plight is in very large part due to Obama’s acts/not acting and this is no big,hidden secret here in mid 2012. See J.Assange story. What has POTUS Obama said,done or not said/done?
First Cameraman/pro Obama ad stacked on top of Bradley Manning box?
Hypocrisy much? Shameless pandering much? Fake moral posturing much?
I’ll give you one guess why?
The murderers are murdered, shocking.
Live by the sword die by the sword explains it, kinda.
Agreed, what’s the point of debating the intricacies of the game if the game is fixed? You could also boil religion down to maxims like, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” but then there wouldn’t be churches, spiritual leaders or bible study.
I, more or less, try to stifle my cynicism so as not to discourage activism, but the R vs D routine gets very old when there’s a steady move to the right. The endless wars, and those who support them, are our real enemy. It’s a bipartisan con job, and we are screwed.
We need a new anti-war movement to rally liberals around, like back in the day.
Bases in Iraq and Afghanistan are needed for regime change in Iran. The power elite demand it. They have glorious plans for the world. Little of which makes any sense, unless of course, you’re cashing in. I’m not sure what you’re referring to though.
As shoothatarrow above said, thanks for posting this!
We need to be running, not walking, away from these inane D v R Kabuki Theater, shock du jour “discussions” and start looking at the very real issues that are going on just behind that curtain, such as what you and others try to bring to the table here, OB.
Folks, these are your bread and butter issues, things that will have a direct impact on your (or a loved one’s) life, not the bone-headed remarks of an ignorant and otherwise unknown politician – quit giving that kind of shit legs already!
Wow, my thoughts, your words…..thanks!
Thank you for writing that! I agree with everything you wrote.
On top of illegally grabbing oil and mineral access, these wars are a nice, steady source of income for corporations right now. The longer the wars go on, the money goes from our coffers to theirs, and they don’t have to even think about it.
You’re so right about one goal of Obama’s wars: the purpose is to strike fear, every minute of every day, into the hearts of the citizens of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq, and on and on. Make them much more afraid and docile than we Americans were after the 9/11 Inside Job. We’d have followed “our leaders” anywhere, and we did: to Iraq, to Afghanistan, and now under Obama, anywhere the corporatists’ little hearts desire.
And this man–this so-called Commander in Chief–is the man we must support, because he’s somehow superior to Romney/Ryan/Akin? In what way? Obama isn’t the lesser of two evils: they’re all equally evil, and if you vote for any of them, you support their evil deeds.
The various WAR, Incs, that Team USA is presently engaged in will NOT be discussed (at least, not much) during the current laughingly called Pres Election Kabuki Theatre.
WAR, Inc, is yet one way – and probably the biggest & most lucrative – to fleece gullible
rubesmarksignoramusescitizens for the benefit of the 1%, who gleefully laughing all the way to their numerous off-shore account$$ with US tax dollah$ flooding into the Dept of Defense “accounts.”It’s utterly bogus. Why would “Bishop” Mitt RMoney bring up WAR, Inc to use “against” Obama? I have NO doubt that Bishop Mitt is making, uh, a killing off the various WAR, Incs going on. Doesn’t want to shit on hiw ca$h cow, does he? Anyone who doesn’t “get” that Obomber is heartily in favor of WAR, Inc, Fuck Yeah!!! has been living in denial or under a rock.
There is NO difference betweent so-called “Democrats” or putative “Republicans,” esp when it comes to WAR, Inc. They’re all in it for the money, honey.
Other collateral benefits, such as whatever with Iran, may tie into the decision process as to WHERE the WAR Inc will be “waged,” but believe me, if it wasn’t Afghanistan, it would just be somewhere else. The end.
Your tax dollar$$$$$ at work, my friends. CHA-CHING!!!!
Ohio Barbarian and any other who are interested in alternative Presidential candidates … Kevin Gosztola has begun a series of interviews with Rocky Anderson and Jill Stein.
Rocky:
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/08/21/justice-party-presidential-candidate-rocky-anderson-on-transparency-the-rule-of-law-under-obama/
Jill:
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/08/22/interview-with-green-party-presidential-candidate-jill-stein-transforming-a-breaking-point-into-a-tipping-point/
DW
I’m glad you asked me to elaborate. This war machine has to go on in order to feed the military industrial complex. It doesn’t make any difference where, as long as it continues. Israel has a mighty influence on where it continues. That’s because a certain amount of that money we feed Israel comes back here in the form of “campaign donations”.
In regard to Afghanistan specifically, it’s not a country, but a conglomeration of different tribes in various parts of the country. They have customs that no one will ever change. We are everyone’s enemy, even the tribes who have been fighting against one another, recognize us as the common enemy; this won’t change.
The reasons I gave are in addition to what you mentioned.
I see an iceberg lurking in the waters around the SS Obama. As you know “icebergs” are barely visible above water, this one is no different. This is the only election where this phenomenon has ever occurred.
The Obama election is not a done deal, even though the “R’s” have the candidate from hell.
According to fivethirtyeight Romney has a 99.2% chance of winning here in Texas. Voting would be like pissing in a pair of dark pants. I’d get a warm feeling, but nobody would notice.
It should be noted that, although the stupidity gap is narrowing, Republicans do act more retarded and bought-off than the Dems– its just that Texans are nearly all kin… and glory in it. We wouldn’t know the truth if it jumped up and bit us in the ass.
Thanks. I hadn’t thought of that. Undoubtedly Romney has investments in war-profiteering corporations, so he is making money off of the continued war. To hell with the American soldiers, not to mention the Afghans, who pay for it in blood.
While Obama may not personally own any stock in such corporations, yet, he has lots of friends who do.
Wow. Now that was truly a masterpiece of scathing commentary. Great points about Manning, the D v R kabuki theater, and the puppethood of Karzai. As far as pro-Obama bias on FDL goes, I choose not to let it bother me so long as I can post here and speak my mind.
Thanks for the reply.
Coming back and around late to this diary and comments.
I have been around FDL long enough to know and understand not all precincts that comprise FDL are equal. Some FDL flag staff and regulars going with browbeating and doing the worst of R vs.D junk,self exile acts and last time posts. Tossing about put downs and sarcasm but then acting all indignant and put out when given return fire. So I try to avoid those precincts and steer clear of such commenters. Better all around. It all flushes out soon enough.
Thank you for your nice follow-up OB. The ad filler one sees here tends to not catch my attention to the possible chagrin of the ad placing humans doing so. The pro Obama ad I singled is particularly crass when parked right on top of the Bradley Manning spot.
One can overlook the R vs. D junk easily enough most of the time as being the mindless,contentless drivel it is but Bradley Manning is a real victim of POTUS Barack Obama’s conduct and policy choices/acts.
Plainly the Bradley Manning/Julian Assange/WikeLeaks stuff gets lots of time and play here at FDL. That being so the hypocrisy of giving Bradley Mannings biggest antagonist space to advertise his false faced WH election year manure is glaring. I see the ad is still showing here at FDL. So much for riddled principles not stood on but laced with some very dubious R vs. D flimflam. I am pretty much convinced the Rs want Obama back in the WH after November 2012 as he is the best R POTUS they have had since Ike back in the 1950′s. In fact Obama is running the WH like it is the 1950′s again with the witchhunts,rampant militarism and CIA run foreign affairs.
I have stated and will state again — the D&O bots deserve four more years of Obama having failed to grasp the nature of what Obama has done,is doing and surely will do unfettered by another WH election. SS is in the crosshairs and Obama will do what no R POTUS could do while the Ds provide the crossfire to let him do it. As for Iran anyone who still thinks there is a penny difference or a billion $$ difference between Obama and Romney on Iran deserves one of them in the WH post 2012. The R vs. D nonsense is for the dummies.
Thanks again OB…you have been very gracious.
Graciousness is normally not in my character :), but thanks anyway. Oh, I completely empathize with your feelings about O-bots, D-bots, and even R-bots, for that matter. Yes, Obama could have freed Bradley Manning with the stroke of a pen. Of course, he publicly pronounced him guilty instead.
And this is a Constitutional Law professor? Maybe the Birthers should have been asking which constitution he was studying instead of where he was born. Sounds to me like he was reciting from Stalin’s interpretation of the Soviet Constitution instead of anything remotely descended from the Magna Carta when he made that remark about Manning.
Not that our modern-day R’s would behave any differently.
I think you’re being a little hard on Eisenhower, though. Compared to 2012′s Dems and Reps, Ike’s a Social Democrat.
I like your comments, STA. Hope you will stick around FDL.