It seems that all of the corporate media is gushing over Romney’s “win” in the first “debate” with Obama, and at its transformative effect in the polls, especially the national ones. Pew Research, for example, had Obama up by 9 points just last month, and now has him down by 4. Wow!, the M$M gushes and parrots, Romney’s made a Comeback! It’s a horse race now! And, of course, “Watch this network for new developments in the race!”
I was suspicious. I was glad to have my suspicions confirmed by “the Votemaster(real name Andrew S. Tanenbaum)” over at www.electoral-vote.com. He may live in Amsterdam, but his analysis of the state by state polls was incredibly accurate in 2008. He only missed one state, Indiana. That’s not bad. Anyway, presumably Tanenbaum made this observation about the Pew poll:
However, a close look at the internals of the poll turns up something odd. In the October sample, 31% of the respondents self identified as Democrats (vs. 39% in September). Similar, there were 36% Republicans in October (vs. 29% in September). While many people believe Romney “won” the debate, it is extremely unlikely that 21% of the nation’s Democrats changed parties as a result of one debate. So there is a fair chance that the Pew poll is an outlier that undersampled Democrats and oversampled Republicans.
Here’s the link: http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2012/Pres/Maps/Oct09.html#item-1
Exactly. Now why would the M$M media do this? I like to follow two axioms when thinking about questions like this. First, Ockham’s Razor, or “The simplest explanation is probably the correct one.” Second, my dad’s advice on politics: “Whenever you want to find out why something in politics happened, follow the money and most of the time you’ll find your answer.”
Both of these axioms point to the M$M having a monetary interest in making the presidential election get close. The networks are often closely tied to the polling organizations. It’s also easy to do: just oversample the party loyalists of the candidate you want see rise in the polls, and undersample the party loyalists of the other candidate. That’s easy to do, too; there’s lots of pretty accurate data on which counties and districts tend to vote which way. So if you want to favor the Republican, make more calls in Republican-dominated districts.
The networks don’t want their ratings to drop or to discourage say, Republican donors from throwing money at Romney because they think Willard is a lost cause. The more money Mitt has to spend, the more advertising revenue they will get from him. This also has the profitable effect of making Obama counter with more of his money for the airwaves. Yee-hah!
Therefore I question the accuracy of some of these polls, especially the national ones where it’s even easier to poll in Red States rather than Blue States or vice-versa than it is in state polls.
Another, more sinister IMO, consequence, is that friends, relatives, acquaintances and certain internet sites will use Romney’s sudden “surge” in the polls to scare left-leaning former Democrats back into the veal pen in order to stand united against The Evil Republican. I am not saying this was some sort of coordinated evil plan–I have no evidence–only that it’s possible. Even if no such plan exists, hired Democratic strategists will try to capitalize on many voters’ fears of what an unknown Romney Administration might do. I call it the Better-the-Devil-You-Know argument.
So I’ll answer my own question. This week’s national polls are horse dung.



18 Comments

great post, except for one thing,
it’s unfair to horse dung, which smells a lot better than the Presidential campaign .
I was trying to be consistent with animals and the constant horse race analogy, but I agree that something like “pig excrement” is more fitting.
You the man barbarian.My best to you, your old man and Euclid, Ohio.
There is one underlying factor that did’nt sit well with many: the debate was a microcosm of Obama’s four years. He started out with huge winds at his back only to let hope crash to the ground by his inability to muster a strong defense, mostly because he really doesn’t have any strong convictions. That was the same Obama on display for 60million people to watch at the first debate. I think many saw Romney prevaracating and slinking around all too well, but they also saw a weak and ineffectual Obama. It made many wretch to see just what a fix this country is in. I believe there is a real gut reaction of loathing in the polls to this. It may not last because Romney probably cannot hide himself for too long, but Obama’s performance was astonishingly deflating for the country. The icing on the cake?: Obama doesn’t think there is much room between his views of what should be done with Medicare and Romney’s, just a little cost of living tweak or two. After all, everybody must sacrifice.
If Obama has a problem, it more likely will come out of the story on the enthusiasm gap rather than the day to day polls. The left leaning people I talk to may not like Romney but i rarely hear anything to compare to the vitriol and hatred piled on Obama from the right.
Great read, highly rcc’d.
Yep, most of what we see, hear and read in the media this time of year is geared to generate ad dollar investment by the rich to ensure their POV’s are shown to the masses.
The guise of a real horse race or two party system is all smoke and mirrors, with the media complicit as hell and getting THEIR share out of it all, along the way. Course, the media IS the rich getting richer . . . such is this corporate fascist rub. ;-)
I think you are correct about the media Barbarian. They are only in for the money.
News hasn’t been news for decades. It’s pure entertainment and when it looks like the contender is down for the count, the audience tunes out.
Of all the technology that has hit politics, instant video media and done more harm and any I can think of.
Our toys are making the American populace more and more stupid.
“This instrument can teach, it can illuminate; yes, and it can even inspire. But it can do so only to the extent that humans are determined to use it to those ends. Otherwise it is merely wires and lights in a box. There is a great and perhaps decisive battle to be fought against ignorance, intolerance and indifference.” Edward R. Murrow
you can not win elections in this country looking as weak as obama did.
now, there is no question to me that he Intentionally threw that debate.
and if you want to really understand what is happening in polls and the election you should turn to Nate Silver 538, who gets NOTHING wrong.
Obama is in big trouble because he wants to be and he wants to keep democrats out of office.
winning that debate was a no brain er for a high school student who only needed to remind voters of romneys positions.
we are to believe obama incapable of that tiny ability?
the answer will come after the next debate who will win the election.
ps……also be aware that state polls are Not reflecting obamas horrid performance as yet but will in the next few days.
and while what you say about the media even it were 100% true….didnt cause obama to throw the debate.
Thanks for this, OB. Understanding how a poll is taken surely does make it difference.
So is Gallup colluding on the incorporation of likelihood to vote, too, comrade Barbarian?
Ooooh! Thanks for that Edward R. Murrow quote!
Reread the post. I never said Obama threw the debate. I said that the media had predetermined that Romney would win it, and why. Did you watch the end of the debate? ALL of the networks immediately declared Romney the winner. No thought, no deliberation…it was PLANNED. The millionaire talking heads already had their scripts.
Was Obama’s performance REALLY that horrid? No. It was not. Romney got up there and just flat-out lied in the old Reagan style and not one of the talking heads even mentioned that. Obama danced around the truth for the most part, but seldom out and out lied.
Think for yourself, human. Don’t let the M$M do your thinking for you.
Yes. Since the ’70′s, anyway, likely voters have always been more likely to vote Republican. It’s magnified now since many polls only call people with land lines. I’m in my 50′s, and don’t even have a land line. Most people younger than I am don’t, either.
Now, how can that little fact possible skew a poll, Comrade Ludwig?
That’s a rhetorical question, no? But what of Gallup? Are they late to sell the titillating methodology to M$M or is this change of methodology scheduled?
The CNN/Gallup poll. There’s your answer. And Gallup has Obama and Romney tied nationally in it’s latest national poll of those “likely” voters:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/157817/election-2012-likely-voters-trial-heat-obama-romney.aspx
Notice the “trial heat” in the very web address? The horse race analogy permeates the whole M$M election reporting system. Tied in trial heat? Just wait till the same horses face off in the Preakness after Willard won the Kentucky Derby!
Gallup’s better than Pew. More dramatic over the entire series. Makes more money. But then again, Gallup’s been at this game longer.
So, in order to market their polls, they go for the drama{?)
Ah, drama and best accuracy!
Capitalism is Fraud.
Capitalism is Fraud. Yep. My point exactly. That about sums it up. On that note, I have to go to work tomorrow so I can pay my capitalist landlord to let me and mine stay under this not-so-bad roof, even if it does have moss growing on it.
Sleep well, Comrade Ludvig.