When my daughter was an infant I took her to many places without Mom. Grocery stores, restaurants, and even to my auto mechanic to name a few. It was not a rare occurrence for women I’d never seen before to quiz me on where Mom was. Most implied that I was incompetent to handle a child and it was dangerous for me to be out and about without my wife’s supervision. A few didn’t imply, they were angrily emphatic about my child rearing qualifications.

My daughter is 22 now, so that was a long time ago. However, recent events suggest men are being marginalized in the childbirth and rearing arena just the same. Many women are adamant that men have absolutely no input into a decision to abort. True, the final decision should always be the woman’s – it is, after all, she who will bear the child. But, the pregnancy wouldn’t have occurred without the man and he deserves a chance to make his point, though not necessarily the final decision, too.
Many women would reduce men’s roll in pregnancy to nothing more than walking sperm factories, without a right to express their concerns and input. Not only are men discouraged from being involved in inception and pregnancy, that discrimination is seeping into child rearing as well, even if a collection of Congressional boneheads set up a meeting where only men testified about something widely viewed as a “women’s issue”. But while the Congress-o-Weenies were stupid, they were correct about one thing. It isn’t simply a woman’s issue. Men are affected – perhaps not in the same way, but affected – too.
Weepu WeepsThe anti-child rearing attitude is spreading beyond such things as women being routinely awarded child custody in divorces simply by virtue of their sex – sometimes regardless of who could best take care of the child. It’s gone to how Dads interact with their children.
Recently, New Zealand rugby player Piri Weepu was excoriated by the Le Leche League for have the temerity to feed his infant daughter during an anti-smoking advertisement. The league demanded the offending scene be removed because they viewed it as an anti-breastfeeding message instead of an anti-smoking message.
The guy was simply being a good father and doing something completely innocent and normal. Apparently no one questions that…except the league. The New Zealand Health Ministry’s chief adviser, Pat Tuohy, admitted as much. “Piri by all accounts is a great dad and a terrific guy. Probably of all of the people who’ve been damaged he’s probably had the hardest time in all this because he’s just been doing what any dad would do in his situation and good on him.”
It seems that a Dad bonding with his young child, as mothers do when they breastfeed, is a no no. Here is a man helping raise his child rather than exhibiting the sort of bad behavior many absentee Dads unfortunately show and for which women and many men roundly criticize them. He is being lumped with men who don’t behave well because he is a man.
Luckily, there is a movement to reinstate the deleted scenes, showing that at least some people are able to see an injustice when they see it, but that sort of groundswell doesn’t oten happen for a non-celebrity Dad.
Pregnancy Isn’t Easy for Dad’s EitherPregnancy and child rearing aren’t easy on Mom or Dad. Mom gets lots of physical pain and potential issues like post-partum depression to deal with. Men are often marginalized to the point of invisibility, even while sharing some of the non-physical issues of women and while also carrying their own. To make matters worse Moms often help perpetuate that notion.
I admire the efforts of single parents. Child-rearing is tough work even when parents work together. It is manifold alone. It seems that Dads who help, who choose to participate fully in their childrens’ lives, aren’t appreciated when they do.
We can’t have it both ways.
Cross posted at The Omnipotent Poobah Speaks!



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I’m sorry your experience as a parent was so unsatisfactory and that women made you feel that you had no role. I’m older than you and my kids are a decade older than your daughter, and my husband never experienced that…..thankfully. He was appreciated by me and by the community for anything he did with his kids. Most of the men in our area had the same happy experience. It is even better for my daughters and their husbands.
Don’t know what’s up with La Leche in Australia, but they were enormously helpful when I had to have surgery in 1976 and my doctor and hospital did not know how I could continue nursing my 2 month old son. Enormously helpful!
The organization has been helpful to more women than you or I could count.
Please reconsider your desire to bad-mouth an organization that has been so helpful to women.
Again, sorry your experience as a father sucked. Hope you’re doing okay now.
my first point of my comment is: I am right there with some of the rant, items.
Now let me say, that was too long of a post, so I will do what I never did,,, if you remember the task master… (caan’t remember her name at the moment, but she was teh editor… and she didn’t let you forget that either…. she was so full of advise, you had to wonder….
I had other stuff but, time intervenes, got to go.
I’m not going to give men too much sympathy here based on this one case in a million. I think you and everyone else would be better off focusing on the other 999,999′s bad behavior.
I hear whining.
End of story.
I know Le Leche, they do good stuff.
If you got dissed SO much hoss, you WERE doing something wrong. Or yer not telling the whole story.
Le Leche? You have problems with brown skinned women, do ya?
If not, yer still whining.
Pathetic post, it just makes all us males look bad.
You own it, keep it to yerself.
Harumph.
I am sincerely glad that most men I’ve ever known don’t harbor such misogynistic ideas about women. Your third paragraph made me cringe for the women in your life.
And no; La Leche is not anti-male, anti-father, and has made an incredible difference in restoring breast-feeding as beautiful, natural and healthful. They offer immense support to mothers having problems at first; it’s not as easy for some women as others, and La Leche knows how to help.
‘Walking sperm factories’ and ‘he deserves to make a point’. Ye gods and little fishes; it must be hard to live in your head.
I really am sorry your experience was not a positive one with regards to women in the community questioning your abilities for being in charge of the “life and limb” of your child. My husband had similar encounters. I never could get my head around that one. Just a I worked and was mommy, he worked and was daddy. In fact, when our kids were little they referred to us as “Mama-Daddy” – like we were one entity with 2 faces. The Le Leche League is an amazing organization, without whose help, I would have been lost. And not just once, but with 3 of my 4 infants for 3 different reasons. The whole of this organization is made up of volunteers who dedicate themselves to helping women they don’t know, have never met,nor will they meet again, in order for the newbie to learn how to breastfeed and to overcome the obstacles many may encounter. And they have grown and done this work against the tides of a culture that really does not encourage breastfeeding. What you, my husband and I am certain many men encountered is our nation’s yet and still “ism” regarding the roles men and women should fulfill. An excellent blog that I came across is Daddy Dialectic. Its a blog for men who are stay at home dads and are every day encountering the cultural bias you describe, as well as all the other things that go along with “going against the flow” within a culture. Men are doing this in this arena, just as women had to do it in the work world decades ago. Very different arenas, but the issue is the same: a prejudging of ability based only on gender. I don’t think any one group or organization, or even an individual, can be held fully responsible for the cultural preferences of gender roles and responsibilities. Particularly when those roles no longer serve and uphold the realities within our current culture that child rearing families now face. You might find Daddy Dialect a fascinating look into how this younger generation of men (and their wives) are stepping up and doing that which in the past may have garnered a loss of status, ridicule, and perhaps suspicion. Much as women in the 60′s who left home and hearth for professional lives also encountered.
Why are you here to complain about a response to an ad in New Zealand? Who cares?
La Leche League is a large, decentralized organization. If one group on the other side of the world overreacted some way, does that make the rest of the organization eee-vil?
No, no it doesn’t.
Not good reasoning, that.
Good you got that bitterness off your chest, though.