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Proposition 8 probably did not pass
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Election Irregularities Surfacing Re: California’s Proposition 8!Exit Poll Shows DEFEAT of Same-Sex Marriage Ban!
Volunteers Needed NOW to Monitor Post-Election Procedures
And the article goes on with important facts;
As we think about the possibility that Prop 8 was not really passed by California’s voters, let’s note something that the press, and others, won’t discuss: i.e., that the entire apparatus of computerized voting in this country–the e-voting machines and op-scans and central tabulators, etc.–is largely owned by members of the Christianist far right.
Diebold and ES&S were both begun by Bob and Todd Urosevich, two ardent
Oklahoma theocrats, while Triad, which makes the central vote tabulators used in Ohio in 2004, is owned by the Rapp family. SmartTech, the company that helped Bush/Cheney steal that state, is owned by evangelical Jeff Averbeck; and his associate Mike Connell, owner of GovTech Solutions, which also helped to steal Ohio, among other races, was motivated to such work by his desire "to save the babies," according to Stephen Spoonamore.
…Why are there so many Christianists among the owners of those companies?
Because the rigging of elections is the only way that that fringe movement ever could impose its theocratic program on the rest of us. As Paul Weyrich used to say out loud, the Christianists despise democracy. After all, that system, if allowed to stand, would put the sinful secular majority in charge–and that can’t be allowed.
Let’s hope the california supreme court overturns the proposition on technical grounds but exit polls are not wrong and if these exit polls say proposition 8 did not pass you can bet it almost certainly did not.
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yup.
Just throw the whole thing out. Period.
It may be OK to win on technical grounds by the hair of our chinnychinchins, but if there is election fraud by the voting machine companies, it would be much better to catch them at it, and discredit them for good.
Remembering back when only paper ballots were used, the elections department ended up with counts of 38,000 votes more than all registered voters in the county.
They then bought Sequoia Pacific machines and ballot measures that had polling results of 80% against from many different polling firms passed with a sudden 80% in favor. This was a Fundamentalist/Mormon controlled county. The machines tabulations were also greater than the entire registered voter totals. A couple of naive reporters tried to ask questions and actually reported the incidences but they were threatened with arrest and were quickly fired.
Slavery, in any of its many forms is a Crimes Against Humanity.
very interesting info there dwilson
ya, even better then winning outright would be to show their depraved theft of the election, that would be the stake through their heart
Yep…strip away any semblance of credibility…strip away the veil.
Exit polls can get it wrong.
There are known biases present in exit polling. Among them:
1. Enumerators tend to be young adults (often college students). Older voters are more likely to refuse a request from a 20-something enumerator. This creates a bias that increases the proportion of ‘no’ votes.
2. Democrats are more likely to respond to exit polling than independents, who are in turn more likely to respond than Republicans. This also creates a bias that increases the proportion of ‘no’ votes.
3. Not all precincts are exit polled. In the case of partisan office elections, focus on key precincts works well. Basically, previous results are used as a covariate to adjust results in the current election. Applying key precinct concepts is difficult at best for propositions. The sample is not a random sample, statistical measures of uncertainty don’t really apply.
Did Sequoia and/or ESS steal votes? I wouldn’t put it past them. Every vote should produce a hard copy for recount purposes. Optical scanners are fine. Also, there should be a 1 – 2% hand count of precincts to validate the machine tabulations.
Any monkeyshines on the part of the vendors will be uncovered in fairly short order.
“Any monkeyshines on the part of the vendors will be uncovered in fairly short order.”
How? please
ps. debra bowen sent me a birthday card recently. cool.
In order to substantially influence an election, you have to tamper with a lot of machines. Just doing one or 20 won’t get the job done.
If you randomly (and the key here is randomly) audit 1 to 2% of the machines (and set a minimum audit count, say 20) you are very likely to detect at least one tampered machine.
Finding one tampered machine is sufficient to require a recount of all precincts, which then exposes the fraudulent programming.
Also, the Registrar of Voter who originally purchased the Sequoia Pacific machines resigned and was immediately hired by the parent corporation of Sequoia Pacific in an executive position.
Mindless sheeple are not born but manufactured : Young adults today, hatemonger tomorrow. All of these varied operations are following a script
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource…..155012.asp