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I’m Still Tortured by What I Saw in Iraq
Read the entire article but notice my bold;
I learned in Iraq that the No. 1 reason foreign fighters flocked there to fight were the abuses carried out at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Our policy of torture was directly and swiftly recruiting fighters for al-Qaeda in Iraq. … It’s no exaggeration to say that at least half of our losses and casualties in that country have come at the hands of foreigners who joined the fray because of our program of detainee abuse.
This is not news, we were told that would be the result by the Bush’s own aids prior to this first hand information.
This interrogator is no queasy light weight either;
I’m not some ivory-tower type; I served for 14 years in the U.S. Air Force, began my career as a Special Operations pilot flying helicopters, saw combat in Bosnia and Kosovo, became an Air Force counterintelligence agent, then volunteered to go to Iraq to work as a senior interrogator.
Here is first hand information about our practices;
interrogations were based on fear and control; they often resulted in torture and abuse.
He describes how he refused these practices and used the techniques professionals use and know to be more effective by far then torture;
unclassified Field Manual), but the way we used them was, I like to think, unique. We got to know our enemies, we learned to negotiate with them, and we adapted criminal investigative techniques to our work (something that the Field Manual permits, under the concept of "ruses and trickery"). It worked. Our efforts started a chain of successes that ultimately led to Zarqawi.
Here’s an important passage and one that is missed by the entire right wing ideologues;
Most surprisingly, they turned out to despise al-Qaeda in Iraq as much as they despised us,
That’s right, they were as militarized against al-qaeda as they were against us, they could have been our allies in the fight against al-qaeda and terrorism but we turned them against us and our cause
Now here is something I’ve been talking about for years, the fact that not only is the information acquired through torture unreliable and it impedes good information gathering techniques but the fact that the policies themselves prevent those who would have been sympathetic to our cause from cooperating;
A few of them never abandoned the jihadist cause but still gave up critical information. One actually told me, "I thought you would torture me, and when you didn’t, I decided that everything I was told about Americans was wrong. That’s why I decided to cooperate."
This is where he states the most brutal indictment against this administration and the policies that have put our nation at great risk, for now and generations to come;
The number of U.S. soldiers who have died because of our torture policy will never be definitively known, but it is fair to say that it is close to the number of lives lost on Sept. 11, 2001
We have a hero in this Iraqi interrogator, he is putting quite a bit at risk telling us what has been going on the cost to our country for time untold.
I have always said;
Endorsing policies of torture turn allies into enemies, enemies into terrorists, pacifists into militants, militants into terrorists and terrorists into heroes.
Those who endorse those policies need to be proscecuted for their crimes against our country as much as they need to be prosecuted for their crimes against humanity



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Thank you so much for this great post, Perris.
well thank you so much Laura Doty!
second that. really great post. thanks perris.
Thanks Perris. I just got into a knock-down drag-out argument with my right-wing-nut baby brother on this topic. He’s a jerk. But this just confirms what everyone who has ever been tortured says, what all the psychologists say, and what any military person who has any interest in the subject says about it. IT HARMS US! Way more than we can possibly measure.
Matthew Alexander is my new hero.
Kinda makes all the torture types look really stupid.
Great post Perris thanks!
I hope this makes the front page:) Why did Bush and Darth push to hurt people if they heard from the experts our experts that it doesn’t work?
Maybe because they liked watching?
Thanks for this, perris.
DIGG was opened by thales11. I recommended.
Excellent diary, perris.
Shortly after the pictures of Abu Ghraib became public, Bill Moyers Journal interviewed a person whose name I can’t recall. Bill stated that the pictures were already in all the bookshops and markets in Cairo. He said then that the true cost of our torturing would extend far into the future to the children and grandchildren of those tortured as well as throughout the Arabic world. Much of Arabic history is oral. They have long memories.
We all know by now who ordered this unspeakable treatment of captives, many caught up in massive sweeps without any evidence against them. Criminals should be tried and punished if found guilty. Sadly, our Attorney Generals were complicit in the crimes.
The National Impeachment Network will run this video on California TV in December and January.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/….._1201.html
Bush: “I did not compromise my principles”. Interview with Charlie Gibson to air tonight on “World News”.
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=6354012
Bush very pleased with Iraq War outcome..(interview with a Japanese reporter in Washington)
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/B…..32008.html
that’s a really good add, I wish we ran it prime time a year ago
Thanks for sharing this diary.
Even more than this: Endorsing policies of torture turn allies into enemies …
it’s this – endorsing torture turns US into our own enemy. It debases the nation.
Excellent post, perris, thanks so much.
From the beginning I’ve thought this whole thing should have been handled as a criminal investigation but the Bush Crime cabal made sure that never happened by destroying the crime scenes immediately.
I’m sure they’re in the advanced stages of destroying all available evidence of their crimes as everyone pays attention to what Obama is doing while ignoring that little shit in the White House.
Thanks for the line, bluebutterfly. Everything Bush said is in complete denial of reality. How can he and Ms. Laura convince themselves of the exact opposite of so many truths? I’ll never understand that. In my opinion they suffer from a severe mental disorder.
for decades they got away with something that only recently stopped working;
if they say something often enough it becomes part of the conversation, then it becomes “general knowledge”
because of the internet we are now laughing at their rediculous claims and mainstream media is forced to tell the facts.
they will keep using this “repeat it until it is part of the depbate” tactic because even though it’s not as effective as it once was, it still works somewhat