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Newsweek get this one right with some excellent and balanced reporting;
If Holder accepts the OPR findings, the report could be forwarded to state bar associations for possible disciplinary action.
We need to make sure Holder accepts these findings and the entire report
We also need to let Obama know the support he enjoys declines exponentially if he tolerates the treasonous excuses any lawyer gave for those crimes against our national security
check this out, tasty
But some former Bush officials are furious about the OPR’s initial findings
you think?
this is like saying "water is wet" isn’t it, of COURSE they’re "furious", of COURSE they’ll claim the report is unfounded or poorly supported, that’s the only thing they can do;
"OPR is not competent to judge [the opinions by Justice attorneys].
no?
that was their job, that’s what they were picked to do and they happened to be part of Bush’s team we might add
[italics get a hat tip tip to wigwam from comments}
Mukasey, in speeches before he left, decried the second-guessing of Justice lawyers who, acting under "almost unimaginable pressure" after 9/11, offered "their best judgment of what the law required."
what an idiot
In case Mukasey didn’t know it, that was their job.
in case he also didn’t know it, there can be NO oversight if you can’t "second guess" what lawyers do and mistakes they made, their can be NO judicial revue and NO disbarment ever if you can’t "second guess" depravity after the fact
Let’s make sure we keep this report front and center and insure it’s public release
If Yoo is not disbarred his "opinions" WILL carry the weight of presidential precedence and even though those "opinions" have been discredited, disbarment must accompany that discredit otherwise his "opinion" will demonstrate that when a president wants to destroy our country all they have to is order a lawyer to write a brief and they will have the force of law on their side
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couldn’t happen to a nicer guy
You should be hapy with Mukasey’ statement. If the best he can do is talk about the pressure, it’s indicative that no defense of the validity of the opinions is available to him.
Of course they’re incompetent; they were part of the Bush team. But we have to investigate and reach conclusions with the investigators we have, not the ones we wish we had.
And, those whose job it is to investigate such matters, people of Bush’s own team, have concluded that their team mates in the Justice Department misbehaved. That’s very, very damning.
thanx for that, since I can still edit I added it to the post and gave you a hat tip wigwam
Thanks, perris.
Mukasey is making the argument here that “if you do it for the president it can’t be wrong, it can’t be illegal, it must always be considered perfect’
that’s the case making with that statement
The way to answer that gambit is to invert it: “How bad would an act taken in the heat of the moment by the administration have had to have been in order for it to have been clearly illegal and worth prosecuting?” Because the answer “Nothing would be bad enough to warrant prosecution” would be ridiculous, that brings the discussion back into the realm of the real world, and points up exactly how awful and how obviously worth prosecuting those acts really were.
that’s a great response, let’s hope someone uses it
DIGG IS OPEN
Help perris DIGG Yoo’s political grave. dig,dig,dig,shovel,shovel,shovel
Having lotsa trouble with internet explorer lately after update…
DIGG IS OPEN
“…their best judgment…” /s tee,hee,hee
And one of them, Bybee, is now a judge – - ain’t that the berries!!
Yoo Hoo! Dare we hope for something that can pass for real justice at long last?! It’s not enough, but it’s better than nothing.
Thanks Perris. Made my day.
He’s long overdue for a smack down.
the hope might be misplaced, I haven’t seen anything on this report since
Good job, Perris. Totally agree, except I would add that Mukasey should be ashamed of himself because he doesn’t know that it was his job to “second guess” the attorney’s under his supervision.
Which group of Justice Dept. lawyers were blocked from gaining security clearances and had to abandon an investigation because of it, anyone remember? Wasn’t it OPR?
he wants to obsolve himself of his inept performance
I don’t know how any member of any bar in this country could believe in good conscience that John Yoo should be allowed to continue practicing law. His is the kind of behavior that codes of ethics and professional responsibility are designed to punish.
it really is bizarre anyone thinks yoo can practice law after what he’s done to destroy it