also by acquarius74
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Before I Begin I have to give credit to acquarius74 who asked me to write a diary based on this interview
The story is a stunning recount of the events leading to Chaney’s policies that created his house of pain.
It’s the story of one of the finest, most respected FBI agents in the bureau and his tale will leave you quacking in anger;
I don’t care much for the title, ‘We Could Have Done This the Right Way’ which would have been more accurate had it been titled;
"we would have gotten more information if we did it the right way"
In any event his story abridged by yours truly with my annotation;
The agent, Ali Soufan, was known as one of the bureau’s top experts on Al Qaeda. He also had a reputation as a shrewd interrogator who could work fluently in both English and Arabic. Soufan yelled at one CIA contractor and told him that what he was doing was wrong, ineffective and an affront to American values
Notice please my bold, he yelled at "a CIA contractor"
excuse me, there are NO "CIA contractors" there are CIA agents
"contractors" work for private firms employed by our government, NOT by the "CIA", the CIA might be a broker for that contract but they are NOT "employed" by an agency they are employed by the government
the story continues;
Abu Zubaydah, was handcuffed to a gurney. He had been wounded during his capture in Pakistan and still had bullet fragments in his stomach, leg and groin. Agency operatives were aiming to crack him with rough and unorthodox interrogation tactics—including stripping him nude, turning down the temperature and bombarding him with loud music.
these are far from the most of it as we found out from later expose and Soufan hints at other methods, for instance discovering a wooden box as small as a coffin used for some of these "harsh tactics"
Soufan goes ballistic and calls his lead;
" [Soufan] erupted in anger, got on a secure phone line and called Pasquale D’Amuro, then the FBI assistant director for counterterrorism. "I swear to God," he shouted, "I’m going to arrest these guys!"
note
"these guys" are"contractors", NOT CIA, two Completely different animals
Soufan is not alone in the agency;
They fretted about the political consequences of abusive interrogations and the Washington blowback they thought was inevitable, say two high-ranking FBI sources who asked not to be identified discussing internal matters
so the entire FBI understands the implications;
According to a later Justice Department inspector general’s report, D’Amuro warned FBI Director Bob Mueller that such activities would eventually be investigated. "Someday, people are going to be sitting in front of green felt tables having to testify about all of this,"
prescient, let’s hope we get some REAL accountability
this is where the FBI make a huge error in judgment
Mueller ordered Soufan and a second FBI agent home. He then directed that bureau personnel no longer participate in CIA interrogations.
BIG mistake, the FBI was obligated to take this higher and get direct confirmation from the administration that this was approved. (maybe they did, or, probably they did and that’s why they left without arresting the perpetrators)
It’s BECAUSE of the FBI report the president proceeds creating cover for his crimes;
Three months later, on Aug. 1, 2002, Justice lawyers issued a chilling memo blessing everything the CIA contractors had proposed—including waterboarding, or simulated drowning, a ghoulish technique that was administered to Abu Zubaydah 83 times.
NOTICE AGAIN, the "CIA contractors", NOT the CIA
THIS IS CHENEY’S TEAM B, make NO mistake about that, the professionals in the CIA KNEW with NO DOUBT they were creating MORE issues then they could POSSIBLY solve
here’s where the piece gets it WAY wrong, notice my bold;
This was a decisive moment in the campaign against Al Qaeda—the point at which, in the eyes of many critics, the Bush administration took a fateful step away from the rule of law.
excuse me
they "took a step away from the rule of law" when they decided to attack Iraq for what came from Afghanistan, that would be exactly three minutes after 9/11
Cheney "stepped away from the rule of law" long ago, even before he lied us into Iraq with his "team b", he did the same thing to undermine Nixon’s treaty of détente, WITH the SAME players, INCLUDING Rumsfeld (big surprise)
his "team b" manufactured false data to undermine détente, his SAME team did the SAME thing to get us into Iraq
the CIA KNEW there was no AL Qaeda-Saddam link but Cheney needed to manufacture one, therefore, "CIA contractors" to "extrude" testimony through torture
the writer in the piece gives FAR too much quarter to the administration with this nescient take;
The administration, believing it faced an extraordinary threat that justified extreme measures, shifted toward what former vice president Dick Cheney once grimly called "the dark side."
let me correct that statement to give it more accuracy;
The administration, believing they could now proceed with the plans they had long before the attack, now given the opportunity of an extraordinary threat, they could justify extreme measures and shift toward what former vice president Dick Cheney fantasized grimly calling it "the dark side."
there, I fixed it for him
check out this dialog Seufan relives;
The confrontations began. "I asked [the contractor] if he’d ever interrogated anyone, and he said no,"
of COURSE he said no, because IF he’d ever interrogated anyone he would have KNOWN you WASTE finite assets, you are sent on USELESS tips and you LOOSE information that MIGHT have saved lives
and now for the real killer, the elephant in the room, the path we MUST pursue;
"I would love to tell my story." But then he added, "I have signed a nondisclosure agreement that will not even allow me to correct false allegations."
this "agreement" is with the government, he risks pain of prosecution, pain of being declared an enemy combatant, pain of "harsh interrogations" if he discloses the information the previous administration called "secure"
this article is a must read, please don’t use my annotation as an excuse to miss the article



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since I don’t want to much up the story I decided to put the link up for cheney’s “team b” off my main page
if you haven’t read it yet, you MUST read this, it timelines cheney’s depravity and manufacturing data to create war and unrest, beginning with nixon
when you read that, please realize it was written BEFORE we went to war in Iraq
before
sad we had that information and did nothing with it but it demonstrates why the administration MUST be prosecuted, otherwise other sociopaths will see there is no accountability for crimes against our country
Top-line, front page material, perris. Thank you so much! I couldn’t even have seen your dust. Recommended.
Got an e-mail yesterday afternoon from AfterDowningStreet which gave the schedule for the Whitehouse/Feingold senate hearing Wed, 05/13,09. Here ’tis.
Senate Judiciary Committee on Administrative Oversight and the Courts; May 13, 2009, 10:00 a.m. ET, in room Dickson-226;
Witness List: Philip Zelikow; White Burkett Miller (Prof. of History, U of VA; Ali Soufan, now CEO, The Soufan Group LLC (former FBI agent/interrogator)
Sheldon Whitehouse (202)224-2921 Russ Feingold (202)224-5323
Thanks, perris. I sure hope Whitehouse and Feingold focus on this part of the story. There is so much they need to bring out. The sad thing is that there are also professional interrogators in CIA who are probably as good as Soufan but Cheney found a way to sideline them in favor of his contractors. If they get mad enough to speak out, they will have evidence of how Cheney bypassed them and it will be important evidence in Cheney’s trial.
Perris, thanks for the link to Cheney’s team b which reached back into the 1970’s. Hopefully testimony by Ali Soufan, Matt Alexander and others, along with articles like your’s above and the team b article will successfully ‘counterpunch’ Cheney’s claims that torture works and saved us all. (/s).
(Matt Alexander’s interview/debate on BBC against Rivkin the torture lawyer is excellent. Rivkin lost the debate. (He has had no military service, yet sets himself up as being the keeper of all wisdom. Matt Alexander was an AF Major, successful interrogator in Iraq, got (without torture) the info that led to the death of Zawari, (sp) and had himself gone through SERE training, etc..)
“The Power of Nightmares’ is a BBC documentary from 2004. The following is one of the many commentaries given by those who put the documentary on youtube. The documentary can be downloaded for free at the archive, or watched in 17 parts on youtube. Or, watched at google in three one hour videos. A bit of a challenge to find each subsequent part on youtube, but useful if you wanted to use a clip for a diary.
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” Should we be worried about the threat from organised terrorism or is it simply a phantom menace being used to stop society from falling apart?
In the past our politicians offered us dreams of a better world. Now they promise to protect us from nightmares.
The most frightening of these is the threat of an international terror network. But just as the dreams were not true, neither are these nightmares.
In a new series, the Power of Nightmares explores how the idea that we are threatened by a hidden and organised terrorist network is an illusion.
It is a myth that has spread unquestioned through politics, the security services and the international media.
At the heart of the story are two groups: the American neo-conservatives and the radical Islamists.
Both were idealists who were born out of the failure of the liberal dream to build a better world.
These two groups have changed the world but not in the way either intended.
Those with the darkest fears became the most powerful
Together they created today’s nightmare vision of an organised terror network.
A fantasy that politicians then found restored their power and authority in a disillusioned age. Those with the darkest fears became the most powerful.
The rise of the politics of fear begins in 1949 with two men whose radical ideas would inspire the attack of 9/11 and influence the neo-conservative movement that dominates Washington.
Both these men believed that modern liberal freedoms were eroding the bonds that held society together.
The two movements they inspired set out, in their different ways, to rescue their societies from this decay. But in an age of growing disillusion with politics, the neo-conservatives turned to fear in order to pursue their vision.
They would create a hidden network of evil run by the Soviet Union that only they could see.
The Islamists were faced by the refusal of the masses to follow their dream and began to turn to terror to force the people to “see the truth”. “
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk1WkmioQvA
http://www.archive.org/details…..htmaresDVD
http://video.google.com/videos…..038;hl=en#
Another BBC documentary that gets censored from youtube is “Dead In The Water..The Sinking of the USS Liberty”.(1hr 8min)
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http://video.google.ca/videopl…..+the+water
Got company due any minute, blue. Will go to your links soon as I can. Thanks.
Even if our Congress/AG skip this, the Spainards won’t.
ubetcha !!
Great diary. Thanks, perris.
ummm.. that’s a distinction without a difference .. imo ..
the technical answer would be where the “payment” for services comes from .. if the CIA is paying the “contractor out of it’s budgeted funds .. then the “contractor” is indeed a “contract CIA employee” ..
no ??
if we’re going to pick such small nits .. then technically ..since “we” is the gub’mint .. then those “contractors” work for “us” ..
don’t let histronics detract from your otherwise excellent points ..
the distinction is so;
cia are trained and are accountable to government oversite
private contractors hired by the cia have no oversite, are not trained using any standards but their own hiring whims and fancy
big differance between a cia agent and someone “contracted by the cia”
when you use the term “cia contractors” you are left with the impression these are cia agents, vetted trained and operating with government control and oversite
they are not any part of the cia they were simply contracted by the cia
“contractors” would be fine, “cia contractors” is deliberately misleading
here’s the reason it’s a sticking point for me personally;
I have great respect for the professionals in the cia, their training, their accomplishments, their ability, I have no respect for “contractors” who were hired by cheney because the cia wouldn’t prosecute a program of torture
I understand why those responsible for torture want to give the program the weight of the cia however it deserves no such weight
Great piece here.
In Hannah Arendt’s “Eichmann in Jerusalem” she discusses and makes clear that the Hague convention and Nuremburg trials were in large part about crimes against humanity which manifested inter alia as war crimes when prisoners are brutalized.
When the crimes rise to the level of a crime against humanity, as with the treatment of Jews and civilians as well as military prisoners, then it is a crime against ALL humanity and not just a crime against the victim.
This is an important point,
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These bastards hurt ALL of us while murdering not only innocents but those whom they had an obligation not to torture and murder by LAW which protect ALL HUMANITY.
That is why these cases need the light shined brightly on them!
Blackwater sided stepped oversight by hiring contractors from around the world. Employees of Blackwater were not employees of Blackwater. Blackwater was allowed to call them contractors. Thus, even Americans who worked for them in Iraq came back to the US and found out that they had no Unemployment Insurance coverage etc. Blackwater did not pay taxes, either. All these games were allowed by Condi. She really made sure that it was almost impossible to hold Blackwater contractors liable for anything illegal. The distinction must remain clear between the CIA and someone hired by the CIA. The CIA is accountable, their hirelings are not.
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” The spirit of cooperation between the Congressional oversight committees and the IC was sorely tested during the first administration of President Ronald Reagan. The oversight committees, particularly the HPSCI, became increasingly alarmed over the role US intelligence agencies were playing in the implementation of the administration’s Central American policy. The issue of greatest concern was the CIA’s support to the Contra rebels in Nicaragua. Ultimately, a series of funding restrictions were enacted (the Boland amendments) that put limits on aid to the Contras.
The second Reagan administration produced the so-called Iran-Contra affair, which the oversight committees viewed as the most serious breakdown of the trust between the executive branch and the Congress since the oversight committees were established. In late 1986, the committees learned that a covert action Finding had been approved 10 months earlier authorizing arms sales to Iran in an effort to secure the release of Americans being held hostage in Lebanon. This Finding had specifically ordered that the oversight committees not be notified. It was then revealed that proceeds from the arms sales were used to provide assistance to the Contras that appeared to violate the Boland amendments. During the course of their investigations, the committees learned that some administration officials and IC personnel had considered the idea of using excess funds from the Iranian arms sales to fund covert action programs, thus completely avoiding the Congressional oversight process.
A special prosecutor was appointed to investigate violations of applicable laws, and the oversight committees tried to enact legislation to force the President to notify the committees of all covert actions within 48 hours. Several legislative attempts were made to achieve this, and, in 1990, such a provision was included in the Intelligence Authorization Bill for fiscal year 1991. President Bush vetoed the bill, principally because it contained this provision. The committees were unable to secure a veto override, and they ended the dispute by agreeing to accept notification “in a timely fashion.” But the issue remains far from resolved, and some future incident could easily revive it. “
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/97unclass/wagenen.html
thanx butterfly
the real point is, once someone uses the term “cia contractor” the reader is left with the impression these aer cia when they are not
calling them a “cia contractor” is the same thing as calling blackwater “army contractors”
they’re not army contractors they’s simply contractors, they have nothing to do with the army
so there’s the analogy
Remember, when you read “CIA,” think “Poppy Bush’s enterprise.
When you read “CIA Contactor,” think “Shadow Government Division of Poppy Bush’s Enterprise…itself in partnership with Mossad and Likud.
Here’s an article out today about how Allen Stanford was actually an informant for the DEA (a Division of Poppy Bush’s Enterprise”:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8029494.stm
So Allen Stanford was laundering money for Poppy Bush, and writing checks to the DEA. Also keep in mind that General Barry McCaffrey (notorious talking head war promoter), ran the DEA for Poppy Bush.
The Globalist Banksters figured out how to take Congress completely out of the oversight function of the US Government.
Congress was said to have “The Power Of The Purse.”
Rumsfeld and Zakheim depleted the Pentagon’s budget of $2.3 TRILLION – with Rummy announcing it less than 24 hours before the 9/11 attacks.
This meant that Congress would have no choice but to dump in a massive amount of money to fight the BOGUS WAR ON TERROR, which Rumsfeld himself created along with his Zionist Co-Conspirators.
Well prior to that time – prior to the Iran Contra Scandal, The INTELLIGENCE Complex figured out that that could completely circumvent Congress and accomplish any goal they chose by trafficking in cocaine and heroine – and using the profits to fund their operations.
A Shadow Government was created with these funds – with its own objectives – in concert with Israel and the Crown.
Congress is essentially powerless as long as the funding for the Shadow Government’s Operations comes from drug sale headed by one GHW Bush.
CNN — SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT
November 17, 1991
In the United States of America there is a hidden government about which YOU KNOW NOTHING.
Tom Golden, Chief of Counter Intelligence Strategic Defense Command: “It is highly classified and the largest program of it’s kind that I had ever become involved in”
In the United States Federal Government there is a super-secret agency which controls this Shadow Government.
http://www.sweetliberty.org/is…..omsday.htm
“There exists a shadowy government with its own Air Force, its own Navy,its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself.”
— Senator Daniel K. Inouye at the Iran Contra Hearings
This is being implemented by executive decisions; intrusive, unconstitutional laws being passed at the state and local levels of government; and a shadow government (the Doomsday Plan – Continuity of Government) of non-elected people that we’re told was implemented by the president on the day of infamy. . . 9-11-01.
In fact, it is NOT a plan for the Continuity of Government. It is a plan for the Continuity of the Executive Office — one branch of government.
How ironic it is that their greatest fear is the legalization of drugs.
The DEA is actually just a protection racket to ensure that the Bush/CIA Crime Family remains the number one drug trafficker on earth.
Ask talking head / operative General Barry McCaffrey all about it.
thanx plunger, will take a look at those links later
I also want you to know I always love your posts
anyway, poppy’s cia was part of the infiltration of cheney’s team b which began under nixon
I believe the masters of this shadow government are the koch brothers who are responsible for the federalist society, the kato institute, billy krystol and most of the neo fascist talking heads you see on tevee
blue, there is so much “meat” in your comment here that I hate to pull out any one point, but in reading the words in my bold above, I wondered if CIA also during this period (and maybe later) poured money into their secret fund from their proven shipment into this country of tons of cocaine.
I’ve been studying the funding of the CIA as set up in 1949, then later in the NSC’s Directive 10/2, but I’ve only just begun – and it’s a squirrely set up with many loopholes which CIA surely seem to have taken advantage of. Later amendments to the 1949 Act may have changed things, but at this point in my study, it appears that Condi’s statement, “I didn’t authorize anything!” may not hold water. The vast sums doled out as bribes, for contractors, bounty for reporting neighbors (or just anybody) as ‘terrorists’, for mercenaries such as Blackwater, etc., had to be authorized either by Dept State or Dept Defense, or both.
Obviously, I have a lot more work to do in “following the money”.
well, plunger, seems we were posting at the same time, but I lagged behind as usual. For me, it’s all questions – still hoping it’s not all true I guess. For you, so much more is clear.
While I respect the views of all who post and comment, I accept parts and reject parts (after study). Personal attacks I reject totally, and have no respect for those who use those obviously defensive tools. It is vital that we all consider the merits of the message, regardless of the messenger, whether it be you, me, or John Doe. Our country is, and has been, in deep trouble for longer than most realize. Ashamedly I admit that I was a sheeple for far too much of my life, therefore can to a degree understand those who must blind and deafen themselves to the ugly truths that are emerging.
Thanks for all your work, plunger.
perris, have you taken a good hard look at the Dulles brothers, John Foster (Secty State) and Allen (first Dir CIA)? – not what they appeared to be. That’s as far back as I’ve tracked ‘the Dark Side’ at this point in time. JFK got the picture as it was, not as purported to be; he fired Allen Dulles and was eliminated. Then, insult of insults, Allen Dulles was appointed to the Warren Commission to investigate the assassination of JFK
thanx for that heads up, no I haven’t looked at that angle
I do know thom hartmann has an excellant book about the assaination and I really respect his work, you might want to look at that too, pretty much the mistery is solved
I also just posted the link to your article over at marcy’s place, I hope she gives it the attention it needs
Saw your comment over at Marcy’s place. BTW, it is your article, perris, and it’s a fine piece of writing. You should print it up and leave it among your important papers for those who come after you.
Thanks for the Hartmann (Tom ?) lead. I’ll check it out.
I’ve mentioned before 2 books by AF Col. L. Fletcher Prouty, the first briefer who was go-between for CIA to directors of State Dept, DOD, other agencies of exec, the Joint Chiefs, etc.. The earlier book, The Secret Team, pub’d 1973 is now online. it’s over 400 pages. The second book, copyright 1992, is “JFK – The CIA, Vietnam, and the Plot To Assassinate John F. Kennedy’. This author was a briefer for JFK and knew the Dulles brothers personally (not an admirer). I have the hardback copies of both books (more later on this). I’ll go get the link to the online, The Secret Team.
Here’s the link to the online book, The Secret Team, ref’d in my #22.
Please read the Author’s Note and most important The Preface (that will hook you). After reading the preface you will wonder, as I do, how the hardback original publication copy which I have, survived. I found it at http://www.abebooks.com for under $5.00 (from some little bookstore in Baltimore). Clue: The CIA disappeared all copies as well as the record of its publication in the Library of Congress. CIA did same with the first paperback publication.
Col. Prouty is now deceased, but there are several clips of his live interviews. I’ll go get the links to that.
Here’s the link to the AF Col. L. Fletcher Prouty official site where clips of his live interviews can be seen. Just click on the small pics of him.
great stuff, you should do a diary on that book, that would be pretty good journalism
waas once said most of his work is re-discovering public documents and writings
this sounds like just such information
perris, thanks for this.
If I’ve come to no other conclusion after starting to pay attention since the Plame Leak, I’ve at least come to have a far higher regard for civil servants and excellence in law enforcement and justice than I ever dreamed was possible.
perris, I can’t co what you did with the Soufan article – every paragraph shouts out at me, “Take Me!! Take Me!!”. Also, seems after every discussion of an issue I have to take an hour or a day to “think about that”….
I would appreciate your using your skills to write the diary on Prouty, his experiences and his one-the-scene books. Seems to me that if we are to understand how we got to the point that we torture those caught up in sweeps to extrude from them lies upon which to base preemptive war, we must look back into the works of those who were there in the past – we can’t do that if we just lock the closet door to all that and ‘move forward’….
do it acq, if you want to have some fdl commentors helping edit I would be among those proud to help
just do it, you’ll be great, I’ll give you my email for some editing suggestions
acquarius74, here’s the technique I use when writing these diaries, I’m pretty sure it’s a tecnique used by others;
I have a semi consous conversation with myself whenever I am reading information I didn’t know before, I sort of “annotate” the piece as I am reading
for instance when I read;
“dick cheney manufactured evidence to undermine nixon’s detante”
my semi concous brain yelled at my concous brain, it yelled;
*WHAT?…this CAN’T be true, NOBODY would have allowed him the opportunity to do that again, WOULD THEY?*
I then abridge those thoughts and put pen to paper realing that abridged version, for instance my annotation might read;
“what the FRIG?” or, “this was written BEFORE we went into Iraq?”
so that’s my “technique” and if I’m the only one who does that then the cat is out of the bag, if I’m one of the few who have conversations with themselves then I suppose I should get some medication
anyway, give it a go, I’ll give you my email and we can ghost for each other as you go
hmmm.. i’d say how we each and all interpret phrases and couplings of words has more to do with our individual backgrounds and experience than it does the words themselves ..
when i read “cia contractors” i don’t think .. “oh cia guys under contract” .. i think .. “oh .. outside individuals contracted with cia funds” ..
the primary reasons for using “contractors” in the first place is they are NOT restrained by the rulz and institutional training “officials of the gub’mint” might be .. and certainly the liability of their [the contractors’] actions doesn’t fall the same way ..
my point was ..and is .. just because you ..personally ..view a certain set of words and phrases a given way .. does not mean everyone else might reach the same interpretation ..
i have no problem drawing definite distinctions between “cia agents” and “cia contractors” ..
“contractors” ..by definition ..regardless of what prepends .. implies directly that the individuals or companies so labeled are from “outside” the agency pre-pended ..
no ??
perris, I sure wish that the inspiration you provide would give me the tools I lack. You see, perris, I am mostly self-educated; never was taught the necessary writing skills. That’s not so important when spinning a fairy tale or a short story of my personal experiences, but in matters of such import as this, the reader’s perception and the material are too important to be covered by an unqualified person such as myself. This evaluation of my abilities is not just a lack of confidence; it’s knowing my limitations. I probably have the least formal education of any of the pups here at the Lake. (I graduated HS in 1952 when it was the ‘best of all possible worlds’….heh,heh)
You have proven to me and many others that you do possess the required skills – so, if you would write a diary, perhaps only on the preface, I would appreciate it. That would hopefully lead those who read it to seek more on their own. If it doesn’t, well just forge ahead and don’t let them drag on the chain.
“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.” —Albert Camus
The Bush administration “Total Fear Regime” (as I like to call it) has mandated and maintained a policy of actions which have enabled them to justify that anything the executive branch did under the guise of fulfilling its obligation to protect the American people. They asserted anything, including torture, was within the law so long as it was done in the name of protecting the American people. According to this rationale such activities–protecting the American people–and not the nature of the activities themselves, is what made them legal. It is important to note that such actions, in the warped political world of these Neo-Cons, is clearly defined by the fact that Newt Gingrich stated in all seriousness that Bush found it necessary to rescind our ‘rights’ in order to defend them!
The message being hammered home, as always: be very afraid. Don’t question political authority- especially if involves the executive branch. Such men are consummate artists in using fear to sustain their authority. Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld and their ilk, have repeatedly been successful when relying on fear tactics to create and sustain a pervasive and diffuse sense of powerlessness among the public and other governmental branches. This diminished sense of power has made people who might otherwise serve to prohibit such illegal mechanisms as the sanctioning of torture become so passive that complaining rather than action is all that occurs. This approach has proven to be a very effective ploy, working to co-opt politicians of all parties into silence and submission.
The truth is that FEAR is the only shard remaining to try and protect the Bush Administration’s justifications for manipulating and breaking the law. These neo-cons assume and keep power by maintaining or encouraging a climate of fear, an atmosphere of near panic that has empowered them to usurp control over almost every facet of U.S. governmental structure via the ‘unitary executive’. Author Edward Luttwak in his book titled Coup d’État: A Practical Handbook states “that the power will come from the state itself… A coup consists of the infiltration of a small but critical segment of the state apparatus, which is then used to displace the government from its control of the remainder. Thus, by gaining control over a few carefully selected pivotal points of power within the government bureaucracy, the plotters of the coup can effectively gain control over the entire “machine” of state.”
In reality the Bush / Neo-Cons utilize fear as the basis for their programs in order to cover up the fact that the real and primary focus is insuring the success of a much more lucrative agenda- one geared toward an aggregation of profit centered on a few select corporate interests and their associated political regimes. All around the world this powerful cabal, at the expense of, and in the name of the American people, from its inception to now has busied itself creating war, the opportunities for new war, and the technologies to power future wars and atrocities. They have done this all the while profiting enormously by supporting corporate global entities engaged in the business of empire building via war, genocide, torture, training of death squads, and smuggling drugs (cocaine from Central America, heroin from Afghanistan) thereby embodying what the Bush administration views as “the necessary revolution in military affairs”—the privatized outsourcing of governmental and armed forces activities for profit. A perfect example lies in the fact that Senator John Warner, the former head of the Senate Armed Services Committee, called Blackwater, “our silent partner in the global war on terror.” In this way civil liberties, democracy, and freedom become secondary to globalist agendas.
Using this kind of operational model, law functions as a mechanism by which to achieve goals rather than the means by which human rights concerns are protected.
There has never ever, been any one group who has accomplished more feats that are destructive to the spirit and the letter of the law of the constitution- never, not even in other countries (except maybe for Hitler & Stalin).
“When all government, domestic and foreign, in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power, it will … become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we separated.” ―Thomas Jefferson
Just take a look at the some of the Bush administration fait accompli items:
Patriot Act of 2001 the “right” to free speech, peaceable assembly and security in one’s person, papers and effects have become citizen “privileges” rather than rights. Patriot Act authority suspends the right to due process and a prompt and public trial; it cancels protection against cruel and unusual punishment. The government can freely wire-tap phones, enter homes/offices for search and seizure without warrant, and indefinitely detain people without charges-all in the name of keeping America safe.
Homeland Security Act of 2002 created the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) for purposes of creating an intelligence gathering apparatus (spying) and merging of 22 federal agencies and their databases (contains nearly a quarter million workers). 50 large corporations, including Microsoft, Oracle and Verizon, have been enlisted to help in monitoring /watching/ and tracking the activities of Americans using a “data-veillance” system called “Analysis, Dissemination, Visualization, Insight and Semantic Enhancement (ADVISE).
Intelligence Reform Act of 2004 created the Department of National Intelligence (DNI) whereby all 15 U.S. intelligence agencies now report to one DNI mega-czar. It establishes a counter-terrorism control center that provides for a spy satellite network capable of monitoring private communications systems. It mandates that all drivers licenses and birth certificates be standardized, thereby creating a national ID system. Some provisions were classified “top secret” and congressmen were not allowed to read them.
Project Bioshield Act of 2004 authorizes the secretaries of the DHS and the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) to require compliance by all American citizens during a national emergency so that health officials are empowered to enforce state-mandated medications or vaccinations and to comply with quarantine orders.
U.S. Intelligence Reform Bill of 2004 requires that each new U.S. citizen born be issued a Social Security number to be included on his birth certificate along with his DNA biomarkers. All of this information will be stored in the national data base and no child will enroll in public school or receive any entitlement benefit without first presenting his Homeland Security birth certificate.
The Real ID Act passed by Congress 2005 establishes a massive, centrally-coordinated federal ID database that forces all 50 states to spend millions of dollars to update their equipment so that by 2008, all holders of U.S. drivers licenses and state licensed ID cards will have their biometric data and other personal information fed directly into the national data base.
The Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act 2005 citizens who are sickened or killed by Homeland’s compulsory bio-warfare drugs and vaccines can neither sue the manufacturer nor seek compensation from the government.
National Security Service 2005 placed a portion of the FBI under presidential control creating a secret police apparatus to be operated by the White House without any congressional oversight.
National Clandestine Service 2005 made a new arm of the CIA empowered to carry out covert operations within the United States.
Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTF) combines local military analysts with FBI, law enforcement agents, and local cops, effectively building an ad-hoc secret police.
Strategic Support Branch (SSB) created by Donald Rumsfeld as a new intelligence apparatus of his very own whereby SSB networks, deployed across the globe, are immune from both congressional oversight and media examination. Black ops missions can now be legally funded and operated with no records kept and no questions asked.
What next you ask? The Cybersecurity Act…
I have never seen a more concise lay-out of ‘how we got into this mess’!!
Your line-up should be Obama’s list of acts to repeal, starting back on Jan 20, 2009!!
Since I know you personally, I’m not surprised at either of your two comments here, but will forever be amazed by your storehouse of knowledge and facts. Thanks for sharing with us.
She “didn’t authorize anything” translates to she “did authorize everything”. This is a favorite tactic of Condi’s; she likes her word games. ‘Any’ when used as an adjective can mean one. So, she did not authorize one thing; she authorized many. Think of her “nobody could have foreseen”. It meant that “everybody did forsee”.She did not lie..she just manipulated words. Confused yet? You are supposed to be..that is what Condi does..’g’.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/any
AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHH !!!! I hate word manipulation (or any kind). Back before parsing and compartmentalization, a person’s word meant something. Now, who can know what they mean?? I don’t like this ‘new world’.
Good diary – I had missed this article.
I think that the quote on not being able to correct allegations, though, is coming from Mitchell, not Soufan, isn’t it?
emph added
When the report came out that an FBI agent had threatened arrest my spec at the time was that it was likely tied to the live burial effort mentioned in the Vanity Fair Rohrsarch & Awe article – that seems the kind of thing that would set off a normal person.
Couple of other things – OLC opinions can’t cover and aren’t for the benefit of private person “The Office of Legal Counsel is not authorized to give advice to private persons” It’s something that aggravated me in the discussions about telecoms and “good faith reliance” but it would also be at issue with “contractors” who could not, by definition, be covered by the opinions.
Also, the article asserts that Gonzales was signing off on the pre-OLC opinion coericion and torture.
This statement you made:
“There has never ever, been any one group who has accomplished more feats that are destructive to the spirit and the letter of the law of the constitution- never, not even in other countries (except maybe for Hitler & Stalin).”
…doesn’t make sense. I think I see where you are going with this but you are missing some cogent words. While you were writing it you were thinking it, and not all the words in your head made it onto the page. Read it out loud and you’ll see what I mean.
hahahah..we can’t know..that’s the whole idea..Orwell warned us. The new world is the same as the old world. The only difference is that, courtesy of the internet, now we are learning how corrupt the politicians are and always have been.
Good to have you here with us, Mary.
Awh, blue – you see how my sheeple-self emerges and trips me up; thought I had that sucker conquered!
good point
however notice how nobody uses “army contractors” to describe blackwater, nobody uses “arny corp of engineers cantractors” to describe haliburton.
you’re right though, my distate for the association doesn’t mean it stands for everyone personal definition of the expression
mary, GREAT to see you!
been away most of the day with much to do, will catch up probably tomorrrow
This diary should be titled, CIA Contractor: “I’m not even allowed to correct false allegations.”
I believe that the FBI agents are pushing back in attempting to correct Cheney’s lies.
OOH BOY! It’s the return of the Intelligence Agents Identity Protection Act!
First off we know that it’s perfectly acceptable for an intelligence agent or contract to reveal their own identity. They may have to as part of their job or to explain situations to social contacts (family). That’s an exemption.
But another important exemption is : PROVIDING INFORMATION TO CONGRESS
SEC. 605. [50 U.S.C. 425] Nothing in this title may be construed as authority to withhold information from the Congress or from a committee of either House of Congress.
DEFINITIONS
As to what is a “covert agent” the Act holds:
“(4) The term “covert agent” means—
(A) a present or retired officer or employee of an intelligence agency or a present or retired member of the Armed Forces assigned to duty with an intelligence agency—
(i) whose identity as such an officer, employee, or member is classified information, and
(ii) who is serving outside the United States or has within the last five years served outside the United States;”
Several of these contractors may fall within that criteria if they were once attached to the CIA, NSA or a Defense Department intelligence post. My understanding is that Jessen, Mitchell, and several of the SERE contractors were either active duty, or retired military intelligence specialists.-
“..or (B) a United States citizen whose intelligence relationship to the United States is classified information, and—
(i) who resides and acts outside the United States as an agent of, or informant or source of operational assistance to, an intelligence agency, or (ii) who is at the time of the disclosure acting as an agent of, or informant to, the foreign counterintelligence or foreign counterterrorism components of the Federal Bureau of Investigation;
{Soufan falls under this category; as would other FBI interrogators]
“or (C) an individual, other than a United States citizen, whose past or present intelligence relationship to the United States is classified information and who is a present or former agent of, or a present or former informant or source of operational assistance to, an intelligence agency.”
The latter might allow those “contractors” of foreign background providing “operational assistance” to the CIA to remain classified. Thus you could have those Eastern European of Latin American thugs brought in to apply their methods.
But my next post will raise an interesting question about whether these identities can be appropriately “classified” if they are part of Cheney’s Secret Team.
Amy Goodman @ Democracy Now has an excellent interview on the topic of privatized intelligence outsourcing for profit w/ author & journalist Tom Shorrock regarding his book “Spies for Hire”: see link- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..playnext=1
The Daily Kos by Meteor Blades also covered Shorrock @ http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..0228/93413
where we learn that a “green-badger” is a private contractor & much, much, more..
RJ Hillhouse also speaks to this topic @ http://www.thespywhobilledme.c…..ctors.html
She also provides a link to the Intelligence Authorization Act of 2008- pay special attention to page 11 regarding section 307 of the Act.
Talk Left also referenced Shorrock in a related article regarding John Brennan and NSA on this topic: http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/11/23/17025/414
All of these are really informative & provide a wealth of factual information that makes it clear how big of a legal vacuum exists regarding privatized outsourcing and its hazardous consequences.
According to the Intelligence Agents Identity Protection Act of 1982
“(5) The term “intelligence agency” means the Central Intelligence Agency, a foreign intelligence component of the Department of Defense, or the foreign counterintelligence or foreign counterterrorism components of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.”
So barring a Congressional Hearing or criminal case with a Court Order there are serious issues with revealing agents with a known relationship to the CIA unless there identity has been declassified or is “public knowledge”.
But where did Cheney’s “A Team” fit in within this heirarchy. Were they an official Foreign Intelligence component of the DoD, the FBI or the CIA? Or were they under control of a “Fourth Branch of Government” with only nominal linkage to one of those agencies? It’s clear that there cannot be a “black ops” unit out of the White House that is protected by this Act. Contractors of such a group would not be “intelligence agents” that must remain classified.
If this was something that Cheney controlled…acquiesced by Rumsfeld or Tenet…he may have actually extracted the group from the Confidentiality protections of Classification.
WOW!!!cinnamonape, I’m going to have to read your comments about 4 more times! Thanks for finding and sharing. Dick’s eyes will really be terrified if his personal spook reads this.
whew! txholdem, thanks for all the links. There’s just so much to learn. And Dick thinks we’re gonna “quiet down”?? He has always been good at deluding himself.
You mean this Thom Hartmann?
http://www.fff.org/comment/com0810r.asp (among many others)
tx49holdem, I just watched the 3 sections of Amy Goodman’s 95/18/2008 interview with Shorrock. Carlyle Group back then was in the process of buying Gooz-Hamilton!! and thereby getting into the intelligence contracting business in a big way. Seems to me we might as well start calling the new world order, World Order by Order of Carlyle Group. The percentages of our ‘intelligence’ that is outsourced alarms me. 50% of this agency, 70 % of that gency, and 95% of another.
Now to your next link. Thanks much for that one.
this tom hartmann
Just ordered his book, What Would Jefferson Do?.
Just ordered the book, ‘Spies For Hire’ after reading the articles at your links and watching Amy Goodman’s interview with the author at your first link.
Sigh….my kids’ inheritance will all be in books.
Not to worry about that; you are not exactly alone..’g’. Give yourself credit for knowing that the ’sucker’ exists. Ninety-nine and three quarters of the population does not understand that their lives, and the lives of many generations who came before them, was an illusion.’News’ has long been a manipulation of the common man and woman by the so called elite of society.
you can download his braodcasts free from here
http://www.thomhartmann.com/archive.htm
his rifs on the founding fathers will bring joy and tears, his knowledge of the lives of these men I have not seen anywhere and his pasion will bring tears to your eyes
when you get to some of his economic broadcasts, dated years ago, you will be amazed, he predicted this entire collapse, down to the housing market and what caused it, he was saying this during the boon
he seems even more precient then krugman when it comes to the economy
I have downloaded about 4 ihours of his broadcasts so far and listen while I’m on a drive
two of my most popular diaries were based on tom’s broadcasts and his information
the diary about the koch brothers was based on a simple line he said during one of his broadcasts
the diary about how the middle class pays more in taxes over all then the wealthy even when you consider the progressive tax was based inspired by another broadcast of toms where he suggested just that
he rifs on the war, the patriot act, civil rights, economics, the founders
when you get to that download page you can just click away and download as many as you want
if possible try to search for his “founding fathers” broadcast, I forget the title of that episode but your heart will swell with pride, your mind will sing with joy, your eyes will well with tears
tom somehow aqcuired access to the collection of founding father correspondances, both official and personal
he spent years pouring over letters from everyone but I think jefferson was among the most prolific
he demonstrates through jefferson letters that the man probably invented the estate tax and with thomas pane discussed the progressive tax predicting that great wealth will be the downfall of our country
I have no idea how he’s had the time to research as much as he has and still do broadcasts every day…he is one incredible resource