James Dobson’s slam on Newt Gingrich at the recent behind-closed-doors meeting of evangelical Christian leaders grabbed a lot of attention in the press — almost as much as the group’s eventual vote to get behind Rick Santorum. Grace Wyler at Business Insider described Dobson’s comments like this:
Influential evangelical leader James Dobson set off the fireworks at this weekend’s Christian Right summit, giving a speech that lavished praise on Karen Santorum and asked whether Americans really wanted Callista Gingrich — “a woman who was a man’s mistress for eight years” — as their First Lady, according to sources who attended the meeting.
Sources told Business Insider that Dobson’s speech was a “startling moment” that left many in the audience — particularly those who support Gingrich — floored. One source described Dobson’s tone as “angry,” and said it seemed like Dobson was blaming Callista Gingrich for the couples’ affair, which began while the former House Speaker was still married to his second wife (this is Callista Gingrich’s first marriage).
“It was clear that, to him, the villian in this story is Callista Gingrich,” the source said. “And he was announcing it to 170 ministers with huge mailing lists and television ministries.”
That’s gotta sting. What no one seems to remember — not Wyler or anyone else — is that five years ago, when Gingrich was looking to reenter the political fights but knew he needed to address the adultery issue, it was to James Dobson that Gingrich turned. Gingrich and Dobson had a memorable radio conversation in which Newt admitted his adultery publicly for the first time (you can listen to the audio at the link). Folks like the late Jerry Falwell clamored to commend Gingrich for his confession:
“He has admitted his moral shortcomings to me, as well, in private conversations,” Falwell wrote in a weekly newsletter sent Friday to members of the Moral Majority Coalition and The Liberty Alliance. “And he has also told me that he has, in recent years, come to grips with his personal failures and sought God’s forgiveness.”
CNN’s Bill Schneider speculated at the time that this was a signal from Gingrich that he wanted in the presidential race and wanted the whole adultery question neutralized. In contrast to Rudy Giuliani’s interview with Larry King admitting his own rather substantive marital problems, Gingrich went to a major — perhaps the major — figure in the TheoCon movement, looking for absolution and a blessing.
And he got it.
But three weeks after that radio broadcast, Dobson made an unsolicited phone call to author and blogger Dan Gilgoff (then at US News), adding another layer to the conversation with Gingrich:
Focus on the Family founder James Dobson appeared to throw cold water on a possible presidential bid by former Sen. Fred Thompson while praising former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who is also weighing a presidential run, in a phone interview Tuesday.
“Everyone knows he’s conservative and has come out strongly for the things that the pro-family movement stands for,” Dobson said of Thompson. “[But] I don’t think he’s a Christian; at least that’s my impression,” Dobson added, saying that such an impression would make it difficult for Thompson to connect with the Republican Party’s conservative Christian base and win the GOP nomination.
At the time, Fred Thompson was the up-and-coming flavor of the month. Very Serious People asked questions like “Will he get in the race or won’t he? Can he save the GOP from the likes of Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani, and John McCain?” A couple of days later, Dobson’s spokesperson tried to backpedal a bit on the Gilgoff interview, saying
[Dobson's] words weren’t intended to represent either an endorsement of former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich or a disparagement of former Sen. Fred Thompson. Dr. Dobson appreciates Sen. Thompson’s solid, pro-family voting record and his position that Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided.
In his conversation with Mr. Gilgoff, Dr. Dobson was attempting to highlight that to the best of his knowledge, Sen. Thompson hadn’t clearly communicated his religious faith, and many evangelical Christians might find this a barrier to supporting him.
Still, the implications were clear. For whatever reason, Dobson was clearly more comfortable supporting Newt Gingrich, a repentant serial adulterer, than Fred Thompson.
That was then, but my how things have changed.
Today, it seems as if Dobson is repenting a bit for his 2007 comments about Gingrich. In that Business Insider piece that I linked to at the top, Wyler goes on to describe a division among the participants:
In the wake of the conference, Christian Right leaders have publicly split into two camps — a bad sign for a coalition whose strength has always come from its solidarity. In one camp, powerful evangelical scions like Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family; Family Research Council President Tony Perkins; and Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention, have thrown their support behind Santorum. On the other hand, influential California megachurch pastor Jim Garlow, evangelical activist David Lane, and Christian marketing guru George Barna have teamed up to support Gingrich.
So what’s changed?
(a) Not much. In 2007, Dobson used Gingrich as a way to undercut Fred Thompson, hoping to energize the TheoCon community to get behind someone more religiously acceptable. He wasn’t praising Gingrich as much as slipping a knife into Thompson, to try to build up support for a candidate the TheoCons could really get behind. Not necessarily Gingrich in 2008, mind you, but perhaps someone like Mike Huckabee or Sam Brownback. In 2012, Dobson’s found a more acceptable candidate, and is quite willing to use Gingrich again, this time to derail Mitt Romney’s campaign.
(b) Everything. In 2007, Dobson allowed Gingrich to use Dobson’s radio show as a means to reenter politics, proclaiming himself to be a reformed, repentant, and renewed Christian. Those are words to warm every TheoCon’s heart. But in the five years since then, what has Gingrich done to show his faith credentials? What has he done to promote the TheoCon cause? He’s done lots of lobbying and consulting, promoting the bank account of Newt and Callista Gingrich, but nothing to get the TheoCons cheering. Neither Dobson nor Gingrich has said much publicly about the other since then (until recently, that is), but there is one little public thing that might be in play. In 2009, Gingrich left the Baptist church and became a Roman Catholic — not something that went down well with many TheoCons. If this was part of Dobson’s problem with Gingrich, it’s not as simple as saying “TheoCons don’t like Catholics.” After all, Dobson recently endorsed the very Roman Catholic Rick Santorum. Instead, it may be that Dobson sees Gingrich’s conversion to Catholicism as yet another sign that Gingrich views religion as a political tool to be used to manipulate others, not as a way of life for one’s self, and yet another indication that the 2007 interview was more calculated than sincere. In other words, Dobson now sees that he got played in 2007, and doesn’t like that one bit.
(c) Both of the above. Dobson used Gingrich in 2007 to torpedo Thompson, and wants to do the same now to torpedo Mitt Romney. If Dobson thinks he was played by Gingrich in 2007, that would certainly explain the anger with which Dobson spoke out against Newt and Callista last week. Being able to pay Gingrich back for being fooled by him in 2007 while at the same time trying to boost a “real Christian conservative” like Santorum as the alternative to Romney is icing on the cake.
It’s mostly a wild guess, but put me down for (c).
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photo of a portion of the John the Baptist window in Glasgow Cathedral h/t to Glasgow Amateur



26 Comments

Where to begin. Um, possibly Rick is a better person than Newt b/c “Callista Gingrich — (is) “a woman who was a man’s mistress for eight years” ” but Karen Garver Santorum’s affair was only for 6 years
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2087812/Rick-Santorums-wife-Karen-love-affair-abortion-doctor.html.
So there.
Yeah, there’s plenty of past to go around.
Thanks.
All of it is so utterly bogus and such a waste of time.
All of these “family values” politicians and/or their spouses have past and/or present pecadillos that can be highlighted, and they’re *no better* than politicians (and their spouses) who are putative “Democrats” or leftwing or whatever.
Focusing on this nonsense has ended up painting conservatives at least somewhat into the proverbial corner – FINALLY!!! At long last.
However, I expect that the “conservative-libertarian” voting “base” will soon be inveighed by Rush & Ilk to fall back asleep and only “care” when it’s a so-called “Democratic” pol (or their spouse) who sleeps around.
The whole this is such a shiney shiney shiney *distraction* from the very real ills which face our nation, and that’s why we’re seeing even so-called “Republicans” having to walk the walk of shame anymore…. sure beats having to keep asking for Willard’s tax records – right??????
“Dobson sees Gingrich’s conversion to Catholicism as yet another sign that Gingrich views religion as a political tool to be used to manipulate others, not as a way of life for one’s self”
Very perceptive of Rev Dobson.
And, just so you know, `old fashioned` Catholics always distinguish between Catholics and converts.
An oxymoron?
What’s this, the unification of Christianity and Mammon? I’d love to understand the dogma.
“Do unto others as you would be done by” is now truncated to “Do unto others?” While much more punchy, “Do unto others” seems to have a somewhat different tone and meaning.
“Influential evangelical leader James Dobson set off the fireworks at this weekend’s Christian Right summit, giving a speech that lavished praise on Karen Santorum and asked whether Americans really wanted Callista Gingrich — “a woman who was a man’s mistress for eight years” — as their First Lady, according to sources who attended the meeting.”
You can call me a chauvinist pig, but it seems to me that it takes two to have an affair.
If not, I could be an adulterer with myself.
“sure beats having to keep asking for Willard’s ‘tax records’ – right??????”
Oops! I read that as “sex records”
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn`t it usually the woman who gets stoned to death?
On my knees, “I am a chauvinist pig.”
American Conservatism = Christian Fascism
For Dobson and others like him, it’s always the fault of the woman.
See “Eve, Garden of Eden”.
A charitable understanding of “Christian marketing” is that the church needs to speak the language of the culture to the people who live in that culture. Thus, it doesn’t matter if you’re selling Cheerios or Eternal Salvation — know your audience, and use that knowledge to craft your pitch.
A less charitable understanding is “it’s all about the Benjamins.”
Dobson’s not a “Rev,” though he often acts like one. He’s a psychologist with a PhD from USC.
You mean guys like this?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/sept98/wallace.htm
Pass the vomit bag.
This is a surprise?
The woman used her Satanic women’s magic to give Newt a woodie, at which point he was helplessly in thrall to her, unable to restrain his lust and not responsible for his actions.
This is why (male) judges say “I can’t define pornography, but I know it when I see it”. Cuz Satan uses evil magic to give him a woodie away from partially clothed missionary sex in the dark with his lawful wife.
This is why Islamic fundies want their women shrouded in burkhas.
This is why an attractively dressed woman is “asking for it”, and thus can’t “really” be raped.
This is Eve’s original sin.
Stimulating a man gives her power over him, and in a patriarchal society, power can only flow in one direction.
Karen Santorum, 6-year affair with an abortion provider.
Callista Gingrich, 8-year affair with her boss who is now her husband.
Karen had children, Callista didn’t.
We don’t know if she couldn’t, or anything about her situation, just the results. Boom goes the gavel.
Maybe this was not part of Dobson’s judgement…but it’s what I imagine him thinking as he looks at the two women.
“Devoted wife and mother” versus “icy blonde who likes jewels from Tiffany’s.”
Oy! So you mean that “This is why (male) judges say “I can’t define pornography, but I know it when I see it.“
Really means, “It knows it when I sees it.”
LOL!!!
And here I thought it meant selling tee-shirts with angels and stuff.
I kind of like c) myself. That correction from 2007 looks like something Sister Benedict used to say: sinning is like pounding a nail into a board; confession is like pulling out the nail; it leaves a hole showing the sin was once there. That part doesn’t go away.
That would fall under the “less charitable” category.
I totally agree with Sr Benedict, but the official line is, “A firm act of contrition.”
I know what is right, but if you want to make a wager, I will take your money.
I would love to get a recording or transcript of Dobson’s full remarks to that meeting last weekend. From the scraps I’ve seen in articles like the one in the post, it seems as if Dobson shocked people not because he backed Santorum, and not because he opposed Gingrich, but because in his opposition to Newt, he “went there” and mentioned Callista.
I’d love to hear what else he had to say about Newt. I can’t believe the only argument he made was “you don’t want First Lady Callista.” That was probably just the last little flourish to a much longer attack.
How can we tell? I always think of Frank Zappa, “Tax the Churches.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLVUHknb-Is
and more contemporarily: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72WLo_E1JW0
Not, Peterr, it is not that I think that all churches should be scrummed, but that the mantle of the church has been usurped by the scrummers(ok, that is code for scammers). Whew, it is hard to splain.
I am not actually OK with the churches wanting $$, although I understand where they are coming from. $$ make things go. But the devil, as they say, is in the details.
Most here know I lean toward the conservative.
Gingrich is a baffoon. Nothing more than a clown and gas bag.
Much as I dislike Obama, I would vote for him over Gingrich.
We already have a President with an ego that knows no bounds. We don’t need another one.
But, there is no worry about that. Gingrich will never get elected.
He has this stupid fantasy of debating Obama. He, and many voters, haven’t stopped to think that Obama will never agree to more than 2 debates. At the end of the campaign, after they’re had 4 months to pound Gingrich.
Hell, I could run a campaign against Gingrich and I don’t know a thing about running campaigns.
During Gingrich’s tirade last night, he mentioned, “I can’t think of a more despicable thing” than to lead off a Presidential debate with the ex wife question.
If I was John King, I’d have said, “You mean you don’t think cheating on your wife is despicable?” You mean you don’t think pontificating on Bill Clinton’s transgressions while doing worse yourself is not despicable?”