Of course, Consortium readers knew about this well over a year ago, and Anna Chan Chennault ‘fessed up to it. (See here and here for example.)
But now the tapes are out, and it’s no longer deniable, even though the Atlantic writer Connor Simpson tries to soft-pedal it: Richard M. Nixon committed treason — and condemned several million Vietnamese and American troops to be maimed and killed over the next six years — just so he could win the 1968 presidential election:
In previously released tapes from Johnson’s Presidency, we had heard about Johnson having substantial body of evidence showing Nixon had schemed to keep the South Vietnamese away from the negotiating table at the 1968 Paris peace talks. Like Nixon, Johnson had recored all of his conversations held inside the White House. Nixon was accused or dispatching Anna Chennault, a senior advisor, to convince the South Vietnamese they would get a better deal if they didn’t agree to a peace deal until after the U.S. Presidential election. Chennault confirmed she spoke with the Vietnamese in her autobiography, The Education of Anna, but nothing more than that. If true, the charge would likely amount to treason.
And it was true, as we already know from Robert Parry’s shop. (And by the way, the peace talks were much closer to success than the persons trying to minimize Nixon’s treason are willing to admit.)
Why did Johnson not act on the knowledge — publicly, at any rate? (He had already confronted Nixon on it privately.) Because it might have, among other things, damaged the nation’s security:
Johnson also passed along a note to Nixon’s opponent, Democrat Hubert Humphrey. The Democratic campaign found out just days before the election, though, and decided they were close enough in the polls to not release the information. A treason accusation could potentially damage the country’s security, they thought, before Humphrey lost a narrow election. Hindsight is 20/20, others say.
Or, as the BBC’s story — which is far better than the Atlantic’s — states:
The president did let Humphrey know and gave him enough information to sink his opponent. But by then, a few days from the election, Humphrey had been told he had closed the gap with Nixon and would win the presidency. So Humphrey decided it would be too disruptive to the country to accuse the Republicans of treason, if the Democrats were going to win anyway.
While it is indisputable that 1968 was a year of turmoil — the assassinations of Dr. King and Bobby Kennedy being large parts thereof — and it is understandable that LBJ and Humphrey would not have wanted to shake up an already-unstable nation, there is a temptation to indulge in hindsight.
For one thing, hindsight tells us that keeping Nixon out of the White House by exposing him as a traitor would have almost certainly stopped, or at the very least seriously hindered, the efforts of Nixon’s Big Business patrons to undo the New Deal. 1968 was barely twenty years after the end of World War II, and there were a number of people still alive who remembered quite well how Republicans and conservative business titans tried to topple President Franklin Delano Roosevelt by coup and later tried to sabotage his actions against Nazi Germany. With Nixon down in flames and taking the GOP with him, the Vietnam War would have ended much sooner than otherwise would have happened (sparing a few million Vietnamese and Americans from maiming and death), and the conservative cause, which would now be associated with repeated instances of treason and sedition, would have been thrown into such deep shade that it would have taken twenty years for it to recover. Reagan would never have become president, much less rolled back both taxes on the rich and the social safety net that Roosevelt and Johnson had created. We would have been far less likely to ever again go to war at Corporate America’s behest.
America, and probably the world, would have been much better off.
(Crossposted to Mercury Rising.)



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So: counting the second October surprise, when GHWBush went to Paris to sabotage the release of the Iranian hostages on the eve of the presidential election in 1980, and counting the Supreme Court’s selection of GWB in 2000 — we haven’t actually had a Republican legitimately elected president since Ike in 1952.
I guess that’s why the GOP is so excited about voter fraud: they know they’ve committed it at the highest levels, in presidential elections, since the middle of the last century, and that none of their Republican presidents were elected without outright treason or fraud.
Good to know.
Nixon’s election was what they now call a “hinge event” and I completely subscribe to your alternative history theories. Excellent diary, thanks.
Well, there are many Nixon haters out there. A more objective account of this is in Herbert Parmet’s book about Nixon, ISBN 1-56852-082-4, pp 519-523. I also think you have way, way too rosy a view of Johnson.
It’s not widely know — er, at least I didn’t know it — but Reagan was a major contender for the presidency in 1968. Guess who stopped him?
They didn’t call him Tricky Dickey for nothing!
Was there ever a Republican since Roosevelt who didn’t commit treason?
It’s the Republican way. Just as the most hypocritical Christians are the ones that make the biggest public show of their religiosity, the Republicans–with all their flag waving, lapel pins and talk of patriotism–are the most disloyal pieces of shit in the country. Reagan pulled this same sort of treason in 1980 during the Iranian embassy hostage crisis.
George H.W. Bush was dispatched to Paris to meet in secret with the Iranians to convince them that it was in their interest to hold the hostages till after the 1980 elections. Lee Hamilton buried the evidence because he feared that the embarrassment to the GOP would cause backlash for Bill Clinton who looked liked nearly certain to win the 1992 election. So what happened? Instead of Reagan being discredited and the Republican party being badly damaged by evidence of treason, the GOP relentlessly pursued grounds for impeachment against the new Democratic president, won Congressional majorities in 1994, Reagan sold weapons to Iran to fund right-wing terrorists in Central America, and Reagan has been mythologized as a national hero instead of condemned for the traitor he really was.
I think the Democratic party exists for the sole purpose of enabling Republican success. It’s like the GOP is the Harlem Globetrotters (except a very white version) and the Democrats are the inept Washington Generals.
Very specifically, exactly what did Johnson think would have happened if Johnson had accused Nixon of treason as soon as Johnson learned of it?
Who gave Johnson the brilliant advice that this should be kept from the American people and why did Johnson agree with that advice?
We need somehow to cut into the belief of these Presidents that they can keep from the American people who pay for all of government whatever they feel like keeping from the American people.
Delaying release of the hostages until St. Ronnie’s inauguration was exactly what I thought of.
The preening of JEB! Bush has commenced. He is preening himself and the MSM is likewise preening JEB! JEB!’s chubby face will be everywhere.
“He is the smarter Bush”, they say.
Wait for this gem -
“JEB! is the one who deserved to be President”.
The dogged determination of Obama to steep himself in Austerity Measures (especially under a shaky economy) is his own anti-preening which will stick on Hillary or any other D Candidate.
The colossal cicle jerk is on. D Party, R Party, D Party, R Party…
The fix is in, again.
My WAG is that if Johnson had said anything, the Rs would have immediately started with something about Mayor Daley stealing ’60 from Nixon and that this was just another D dirty trick
In politics, as in life, things are seldom as they appear to be. Taking this investigation further, the seeds of the destruction of the New Deal were laid down by none other than FDR himself. He secured the establishment of the New Deal by looking the other way when it came time to prosecute certain individuals for treason at the onset of WWII
Mighty heads could have rolled, but in exchange for this, opposition to the New Deal subsided and his program prevailed.
The moral (?) of this story was that if you are too big to prosecute, you can walk away from treason and the death penalty.
Things are not always what they seem to be, unfortunately. I don’t trust appearances anywhere, sometimes even here at FDL.
This is not new. I’ve heard about this back in the 80s. This was discussed at the same time of discussion of Reagan’s treason.
What “This” do you mean? There are several points in the
above.
Nixon stopped him from getting the Republican nomination. However, it’s very questionable whether Reagan could have won the general election in 1968.
The nation had seen Goldwater as too extreme and rejected him soundly. Reagan had supported Goldwater four years earlier; and Humphrey could have used that against Reagan.
In general, conservatives were much less poised to win a Presidential election then. For just one thing. the media had not yet been taken over by the RW and there was no Fox News and radio stations were not saturated with RW nuts.
Also, the “Solid South, while starting to fall away from Democrats because of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, was not yet solidly Republican. (On the other hand, California may still have been voting Republican in Presidential elections then. I had seen in a footnote to some wiki article when California switched to Presidential blue, but I’ve forgotten.)
Well, bully for you.
I guess if you knew it’s all resolved, no one else matters, no new info for anyone here or elsewhere.
Move along now folks, nothing to see here.
Thanks for your take, but that’s political infighting, not national security.
Yeah, but it is also the reality of the times. Doesn’t make it right, just makes it real
It’s the difference between rumor and confirmation
Like the difference between correlation and causation.
there will come a time, hopefully within our liftime, that similar official papers will document the treason committed by bush and cheney
sad to say, slightly later papers will also reveal the treachery of obama
speaking of hidden papers
anyone see dark 30?
hard for me to believe anyone is falling for that version of the events, we are led to believe that with doors exploding all over the place, a helicopter crashing nearby, that there wasn’t some kind of gun battle fire storm, that bin laden was just waiting around without a machine gun to take out as many of his assailants as possible
what kind of lemonade gets people to buy into that movie?
Only someone who wasn’t around at the time or aware would try to sell this piece of revisionist history.
North and South Vietnam couldn’t even agree on what shape of tables to use for the peace talks.
This was Johnson’s and Humphrey’s war, they were War Hawks not Doves. The only peace candidate was RFK and we all know what happened to him.
It’s a good thing that George Wallace not Ralph Nader was the spoiler in the ’68 election or Ralph would be blamed for two wars.
Democrats & Republicans -> Good Cop, Bad Cop
Absolute speculation without any foundation: Could there have been collusion between Johnson and Nixon in sabotaging the peace talks? (Not such a crazy idea when you consider how the parties are colluding today–this could have been the start of it).
Kissinger did the dirty work, on this and so much more. He is still alive. Is there a limit on when treason can be prosecuted? Is he too big to jail too?
I don’t see the “treason” argument for Nixon. How did he aid and comfort the North vietnamese or the Viet Cong by essentially committing the US to more war? The conclusion that it was more war that aided and comforted the enemy, although true, is a hard sell in a treason trial. Best use “treason” to characterize Reagan’s arms-for-hostages deal with the Iranians.
What both of these instances are are violations of the Logan Act that were not prosecuted. Both represented themselves in negotiations on behalf of a prospective US government.
No need to speculate about collusion. Hubert Humphrey would have reliably carried on the war.
And IMO, the parties are not colluding, just responding to the same paymasters, which has the same effect. It’s the paymasters who are colluding.
Also, the important point was that the contact was with the South Vietnamese government, an ally, and not with the North Vietnamese government, an enemy.
Now, are we supposed to believe our presidents when they say they want peace? I don’t think so.
ZOOM!
There you go again. Darn truth seeping out everywhere.
That so reminds me of…
Well, there are so many but ya know Korea, Germany, and heck they’re too many.
I don’t know. We are still waiting on the JFK release. We may get it when Poppy Bush dies.
But how can it be treason if the President does it??!!
I learned that from Bush.
Not just too rosy a view of Johnson, but Democrats/politicos in general. Just take a look at the Nobel Peace Prize winner’s presidency – peaceful, eh?
Where the hell has the world been? I was telling my students about this bit of treason 15 years ago as well as St. Ronnies similar treasonous actions in 1980 and beyond.
Actually the feeling of being above the law goes back to the 30s when a bunch of right-wing corporate types tried to get Gen. Smedley Butler to lead a coup against FDR. Butler being the good Marine that he was reported their advances and an overt coup was mooted. Of course, nothing happened to the paragons of patriotism who had approached Butler. Then in the 40s there was the case against Prescott Bush for Trading with the Enemy. That also went nowhere as in no one went to jail or suffered any public outing which would have besmirched the family name.
When the nut jobs in the GOP realized that they could actively work to commit treason with no downside if caught, it was a short trip to what Tricky did back in ’68. The news about Nixon’s treasonous actions has been out there for longer than Bob Parry’s recent exposure. It’s been in other books but because the books were considered conspiracy-type books, they were consigned to the trash heap.
Poppy Bush once said that if the American people knew what was being done by him and those like him in the name of national security they’d be hanging from trees.
It’s never too late as long as we still have trees.
Good question. I think Teddy Partridge answers that one in his comments in this thread.
Interesting — another right-wing first-time commenter. Who sent you here, somebody from Free Republic or Red State?
So do you deny that Nixon sabotaged the Paris Peace Talks?
Clark Clifford is the one who told LBJ to sit on the information. Of course, Johnson reached out to one of his Senate buddies, Russell Long (R-La) for advice.
Clark Clifford was one of the most powerful behind-the-scenes Democrats in the 50s and 60s.
Lee Hamilton sold out the American people while he was in congress as is shown by his actions during the Iran-Contra investigation and his later work for the Owners while serving on the 9/11 Commission. The man should be taken out and shot.
I believe that if this had become public knowledge at the time, the American people still had enough balls to stand up to Nixon and his boys and the ensuing American tragedy could have been stopped. Maybe even the conservative Democrats who voted for Nixon would have realized that he really was as bad as they had believed back in the 50s.
Nixon wasn’t paranoid throughout his political career – the American people didn’t like him and they weren’t afraid to show it. This would have proven to many that he was the piece of shit they always thought him to be.
Who knows how many lives could have been saved in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, East timor, Chile, etc. had Nixon and his boy Kissinger been outed in ’68? Maybe the WTC would still be standing down on Liberty Street in lower Manhattan.
Johnson very nearly decided to run for a full second term as a result of the debacle in Chicago:
It would have been chaotic at first, but so far in that wretched year of murdered leaders everything was chaotic.
If the Paris Peace Talks had been allowed to succeed, and they were much closer to success than Nixon’s apologists admit, LBJ likely would have won that November.
And let’s not forget Johnson’s own silence in 1967 when the Israeli Air Force attacked the USS Liberty in international waters during the Six Day War and American sailors were killed.
Exactly. The call to stomp on left-wing movements “to keep another Stalin or Mao from rising” would have found fewer listeners, as the arch-conservative businessmen and their puppets most fervently issuing that call would have been discredited.
And a few tens of millions of Vietnamese, East Timorese, Cambodians, Iraqis, Afghanis, Chileans, Argentinians, Europeans, Americans, and others the world over would have lived longer and likely better lives.
Oh, yes. He was furious about that, too — but Clark Clifford told him that they couldn’t prove the IDF did it on purpose.
Oh, he would have tried. And it might have worked — for about, oh, a day or two. But the evidence was too damning. The New York Times would have picked up on the truth and largely ignored Nixon’s whinings (they didn’t start to knuckle under to him until after he’d won in 1968), and back then, the Times still drove the nation’s news cycle; what it covered was picked up by the radio and TV networks as well as the other newspapers in the country.
What is it about an LBJ win in ’68 that would have prevented the stomping of left wing movements? He was President during the campaign and convention in ’68 and a Democrat was mayor of Chicago. Stomping of the anti-war movement, not to mention the continuing war were happening on their watch.
And what is it about Democrats then, or now, that would lead us to believe Vietnamese, Afghans, or anyone else in the world, including protesters, were or are safer on their watch?
It’s interesting and informative to examine the past in the light of emerging facts and/or theories about what happened. However, imagining that subsequent history would have been materially different if these facts were widely known at the time, because they would have led to Democratic political victories, seems much less meaningful beyond a certain point.
While I don’t imagine LBJ would have set to work dismantling the safety net, including his own programs, I didn’t imagine Clinton of Obama would do that either, and LBJ didn’t need to be re-elected to end the war instead of continuing it.
LBJ, for one, gave us the Great Society — you know, Medicare, Medicaid, et cetera? The grand continuation of the New Deal?
For another, he had soured on the whole “let’s go to war to keep another Stalin or Mao from rising” thing, as the people pushing it were not much better (if at all) than either Stalin or Mao. That’s probably the biggest reason why he wanted to end the Vietnam War and wanted the peace talks to succeed.
The Clifford report you link to appears accurate. Gross negligence on the part of the Israelis was involved. It would have been absolute idiocy for the Israelis to deliberately attack an American ship. Remember that Israel was a far weaker country militarily in those days and had the United States as its only reliable ally. What this attack does seem to show is a huge level of disorganization and lack of communication in the Israeli armed forces command despite the country’s military reputation.
The Liberty attack should have been a warning to the Israeli military to get their act together. Their gross incompetence was again on display, on a much greater scale, during the first four days of the Yom Kippur War in 1973, and nearly led to the country’s destruction by the invading Egyptian and Syrian forces.
I agree about LBJ and the social programs. I disagree that he couldn’t have ended the war.
However, whatever one’s take on those possibilities, we know now even more than we did then about how the forces of wealth and ideology operate on the political process. To list the wrongs of the next 40 years and imagine the course of history would not have led to these or similar wrongs, and to the kind of situation we’re in now, just with the election of a Democrat in ’68, seems unproductive.
Indeed. But, it wasn’t always so. FDR had “game” but their attempt to defeat him was rather clumsy. When JFK showed them he could shoot a three, well, we all know how that turned out. And, the Generals ain’t “won” since. Although, they’ve managed to come real close now and then by adapting the Globetrotters “style”.
“It would have transformed the 1968 election. ”
Doing a little history rewriting? There is no way the presence of Johnson in Chicago would have transformed the election! If anything it would have further lit the fuse of all the young Democrats agonizing over the Kennedy assassinations – I am so glad for whatever reason he did NOT go. Good grief.
Cast your mind back to Robert Kennedy’s poverty tour. Things were not going well at all with the ‘war on poverty’ – which had been Kennedy’s legacy till it had to be shelved thanks to Johnson heading off for war.
I agree with libertygal. Johnson got Humphrey to change his antiwar stance – so Humphrey lost – and though Nixon just carried on the warmaking, (for sure tricky Dick and treasonous to boot), he was building on the edifice Johnson crafted. Tonkin Gulf resolution, anyone? And Nixon got in the way Obama got in, promising change and then doing just what the war profiteers wanted, over the body bags already piling up in the Johnson years. There weren’t any heroes left standing except for the young people protesting in Chicago.
It may have been the reality of the times, but that does not mean it was also what the article means by “national security,” or, more importantly, what LBJ and Humphrey were concerned about.
Jail? Didn’t Obama recently send Kissinger on a mission?
(Point of disclosure: I had a summer job working as a Kelly girl sub for Clarke Clifford in the Kennedy years – he was a very nice man to work for, got embroiled in the Savings&Loan crisis in his declining years, which was very sad to see.)
No, Nixon originated “If the President does it, it’s not illegal.” At least, he did, according to movie about his interviews by David Frost.
Thanks. Do you know what national security scenario was cited?
And, not that I doubt your response, but how do you know this?
That is not exactly what he said. He said it could not be proven that it was a deliberate, premeditated attack by the Israeli government. He did say it was inexcusable and his bottom line was:
P.S. I am assuming that the document at the link you provided is authentic. Hard to tell online.
I am not sure we can know the thoughts of any politician.
Did any action or actions of LBJ indicate that he had soured on the Vietnam war?
Those were pulled from the actual interview transcripts and tapes, so yes, Nixon did actually say that
LBJ speech on 3/31/68 announcing steps to end war and that he would not be seeking re-election
He said that he was de-escalating to reduce violence, but also said:
So, it sounds to me as though he could have been trying to have it both ways.
P.S, He also said in that same speech that South Vietnam was escalating and that the U.S. would be supporting them in that escalation.
I have not ready every comma in that speech, but I cannot take take the good things he said at face value, and ignore the rest, especially if, as Phoenix Woman posted, he was still hoping to run for President. The anti war movement and the criticism of Johnson was growing and growing at that time. I can tell that even from reruns of the Smothers Brothers Show and the controversy that got them knocked off the air.
This story assumes that Theiu and the government of South Vietnam really needed much encouragement to withdraw support from a settlement in the fall of 68. The settlement on the table then was essentially the one signed in 73 which was the death knell of a divided Vietnam. It too allowed the North Vietnamese Army to stay in the South and all that stood in the way of the North’s victory then, like in 73 was a “decent interval”.
Theiu would have been a fool not to wait out the election. Furtive notes from Nixon were hardly necessary for Theiu’s government to understand a better deal or no such deal at all were the likely outcome of a Nixon victory.
It’s funny that the agreements leading to the final Paris Peace Accord was drafted between Kissenger and the Norths Tho in private and handed to Theiu to sign. He knew nothing about it when Kissenger announced in Oct 72 that “peace was at hand”. He protested but Nixon threatened to abandon the South totally instead of providing continued money so Theiu had no choice but to agree.
On the one hand Theiu’s government can be seen as a puppet or non entity in the stories of both 68 and 72/73 or a vital cog in the process of ending the war or the direct US involvement. They had to accede to the final agreement in both cases, to signing their own death warrant. In 68 they had a possible out, the election of Nixon and as I said no little backdoor notes were needed to get that message. In 73 with 4 more years of Nixon ahead and his threat to abandon the South there was no out.
The real story to me isn’t one of treason but of the eagerness of Nixon and a large plurality of Americans to see 25K more American soldiers killed for………….just because. Because it seemed tough?
RE Clark Clifford. He was the original modern post war influence peddler. Rising in the Truman administration. Nice man or not he was a model of the pernicious sort of people who have increasingly infected all succeeding administrations.
He got embroiled in the collapse of BCCI. A rouge bank before rouge banks became the accepted model
PS influence peddler and fixer for the elites.
Absolutely. And the post deflects from the fact that that war, and its failure, was the Democrats, namely Kennedy and Johnson of course. It’s hard for Democrats to really accept that all that death and suffering was brought on by Democrats mainly: Kennedy, Johnson, Dean Rusk, Walt Rostow.
I read somewhere that Truman asserted something similar in response to a troublesome steel strike during his administration.
“This story assumes that Theiu and the government of South Vietnam really needed much encouragement to withdraw support from a settlement in the fall of 68.”
Yes.
I totally agree with you, rapier51. As a total ingenue college student at the time, the lesson I drew from this encounter was they are all ‘nice men’ on the surface. It was with horror I saw Clifford become Johnson’s war secretary. (I agree with your excellent post at 64 also.)
Know what the saddest thing is?
If this were a story, true or not, documented or not, about how, say, George McGovern had grossly and egregiously interfered with Richard Nixon’s foreign policy, this would be front-page news at every major paper and the lead story on every major radio and TV network.
Instead, it’s buried in a Saturday-night disclosure in a magazine most Americans have never read, and whose coverage of it pales next to that done by the BBC — a foreign news outlet.