The last public testimony-gathering hearing of the Senate Finance Committee, or any of its subcommittees, regarding health insurance reform? May 12, 2009.
The first public meeting of the Senate Finance Committee to democratically debate and mark up (amend) health insurance reform legislation? On some unknown future date, more than eight months into 2009, contrary to a "schedule" that promised otherwise:
Senator Grassley and I have laid out a schedule to do just that. Our schedule calls for this committee to mark up a comprehensive health care reform bill in June. We should put a health care bill on the President’s desk by July 4. – Chairman Max Baucus, March 10, 2009
How can this be? Ask George Bush, Kit Bond, Jay Rockefeller, or Harry Reid, who successfully played a very similar game of inverting, and subverting, the legislative process, while recklessly breaching the separation of powers, when they used the Senate Intelligence Committee chaired by Rockefeller to force through "reform" (with telecom immunity) of FISA, in October, 2007. That telecom-immunity-laden FISA "reform" was a permanent replacement for the Protect America Act, and was passed by the Senate Intelligence Committee 3 months after the PAA was forced through Congress on the cusp of a month-long August recess, undebated and unexamined by those legislators responsible for its enactment.
For those who weren’t following closely at the time, we learned a bit about the (non-public) manufacturing and subsequent passage of the FISA Amendments Act in the Senate Intelligence Committee, thanks to the frustrated comments of Russ Feingold in the subsequent, public FAA mark-up in the Senate Judiciary Committee to which it was (purportedly) sequentially referred [Feingold, Feinstein, Whitehouse and a few Republicans sit on both committees]. Feingold revealed, basically in passing, that the Intelligence Committee was effectively presented with a fait accompli – a completed FAA bill, basically the Bush White House-written bill – by Jay Rockefeller and Kit Bond, which Rockefeller and Bond then insisted the committee pass essentially as was in the name of bipartisanship.
Meaning that, in practice, no meaningful committee amendments (unless endorsed by both Bond & Rockefeller) were to be entertained on this vital bill, for fear of disrupting said purportedly-delicate "bipartisan" deal (bipartisan meaning one Republican and one Democrat), per the dictate of Chairman Rockefeller. Disgracefully, most of the Democrats on that vital intelligence oversight committee simply went along with Rockefeller’s autocratic command (partly in hopes, it’s true, that they could remedy problems and actually offer amendments in the sequential referral of the bill to the Judiciary Committee – but, as we know, Harry Reid had the last laugh on that plan…). And thus the FAA bill was promptly passed out of Rockefeller’s Intelligence Committee 13-2, with all but two Democrats (Feingold and Wyden) voting in favor – upon which it was immediately, and repeatedly, hailed by its proponents as a triumphant and overwhelmingly "bipartisan" achievement, and declared essentially unimprovable by further (or any) amendment…
Talk about the bastardization of democratic process and the deliberate subversion of full and fair legislative debate and amendment.
Well, it’s now the Senate Finance Committee’s turn to undemocratically invert the legislative process, as part of the Democratic Party’s effort to reverse-engineer in private a health insurance reform bill, working backward from a pre-determined outcome dictated by Party, not by principle or merit, or by independent thinking or informed debate by our federal representatives in Congress.
Former Republican Party Leader Mickey Edwards:
Granted, there are distinctions in political philosophy that draw people to one party or the other, but it is nonetheless clear that there is far less independent thinking going on than good governance would demand.
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Loyalty to party undermines the very essence of representative government, which depends on entrusting members of one’s community to act in one’s stead. What author Peter Shane labeled Madison’s Nightmare has come true: We live in a world of constant partisan warfare, a never-ending battle between clubs, undermining the belief that a citizen’s vote truly counts for something.
For months now the full membership of the Senate Finance Committee has allowed itself to be idled, while pathetic authoritarian followers in Congress publicly (and no doubt privately) assert, apparently without the slightest twinge of self-awareness or self-reproach, or with any appreciation for the precious gift of self-government, Leader Knows Best. Such shameless followers demean the whole concept of a self-directed legislature and government, as they irresponsibly urge their colleagues on the Senate Finance Committee to simply do as they are told by their betters in the Party – Obama, Reid, and Baucus – so as to maintain order and harmony in the land of corporate milk and honey…:
Jon Tester gave a speech at a fundraiser where he gave the conventional MT line that we need to unite behind our leaders who know what they are doing… – montanamaven
[Well, perhaps that's the way things used to work in Montana, but things may be changing in that proudly self-reliant state...]
What kind of democratic legislature does its (real) business wholly in the dark, except for the occasional planned press leak? More to the point, why on earth do we uncomplainingly accept such secrecy-cloaked behavior from our Congress – or, worse yet, from our President, who is apparently secretly dictating outcomes to our Congress while pretending not to be??
As Scarecrow rightly says:
Baucus’ Gang of Six deliberations have been done entirely behind closed doors, in violation of every principle of open government and accountability. You and I don’t know what they’re giving way, and even other members of Senate Finance have been kept in the dark
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It’s time to open the doors and windows and let in some sunshine. Shut down the closed meetings and end the insider deals. Publish the proposals coming from lobbyists and reveal all the deals and demand the Senate conduct the public’s business in public.
The corrupt, secretive and unrepresentative Gang of Six process is an affront to American democracy, and the White House endorsement and manipulation of that cabal is a shameful disgrace.
Here are the members of the actual Senate Finance Committee [the six in bold are the only ones - since Hatch recently dropped out of the undemocratic dealmaking - admittedly involved in the private, evidently White House-controlled discussions about health insurance reform]:
MAX BAUCUS, MT
JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER IV, WV
KENT CONRAD, ND
JEFF BINGAMAN, NM
JOHN F. KERRY, MA
BLANCHE L. LINCOLN, AR
RON WYDEN, OR
CHARLES E. SCHUMER, NY
DEBBIE STABENOW, MI
MARIA CANTWELL, WA
BILL NELSON, FL
ROBERT MENENDEZ, NJ
THOMAS CARPER, DECHUCK GRASSLEY, IA
ORRIN G. HATCH, UT
OLYMPIA J. SNOWE, ME
JON KYL, AZ
JIM BUNNING, KY
MIKE CRAPO, ID
PAT ROBERTS, KS
JOHN ENSIGN, NV
MIKE ENZI, WY
JOHN CORNYN, TX
Are Senators Rockefeller (the overridden chair of the finance committee’s health care subcommittee), Kerry, Lincoln, Wyden, Schumer, Stabenow, Cantwell, Bill Nelson, Menendez, and Carper holding their rubber stamps at the ready? Or do they have enough self-respect for themselves and the public trust they hold to demand regular order in their committee and in the Senate on this historic, and complex legislation, never mind what Party toes they step on in the process of asserting their individual powers as "an independent, constitutional entity whose authority is derived from [their] constituency"?
The Senate HELP Committee, under the guidance of Chris Dodd, completed its work weeks ago, after considering hundreds of amendments offered by Democrats and Republicans. Dodd’s committee conscientiously crafted its bill in a genuine bipartisan spirit of debate and amendment that puts to shame the Senate Finance Committee’s bad faith pretensions of backroom bipartisanship:
There were 23 of us who worked on that bill. We spent 5 weeks, 60 hours, 23 sessions—the longest markup of a bill in the history of that committee and, we are told by some, maybe the longest markup in the history of the Senate on a single bill. We had 800 amendments filed, and 300 were actually considered. Some 160 amendments of my friends on the Republican side were agreed to and included in our bill, making it a better bill and a stronger bill. I welcomed their participation. But here we are, 3 weeks later, still stymied [by the failures of the Senate Finance Committee, under the direction of the White House and Reid], unable to come together and shape a bill that would provide the relief so many people seek in our country.
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I thank MIKE ENZI, my colleague from Wyoming, the ranking Republican member, along with his colleagues on the Republican side. They did not vote for the bill in the end. I regret that. But they made contributions that made it a stronger and better bill.
But let’s come back in September and get the job done. – Chris Dodd, 8/6/2009
Come September, will Harry Reid and the rest of our Senators pay heed to the federal legislator Chris Dodd, and allow Senators to genuinely debate – in public – and contribute to health insurance reform? Or will Reid and Baucus and their democracy-spurning colleagues continue to slavishly serve the President and the Party, at the expense of their own individual consciences and democratic will as Constitutionally-empowered federal representatives entrusted with acting in the best interests of the American people?



30 Comments

In a nutshell.
Thanks, pow wow. Our government has strayed far from its roots…
That was a highly articulated and entertaining outburst, powwow. It would’ve been helpful to your case if you’d introduced some evidence of White House collusion with said Finance committee peoples averred therein.
A point that bears repeating over and over again.
No kidding. Those who are waiting for Jello Jay to ride in on his white horse and save healthcare have certainly got some time to kill.
when 6 people in the senate on one side can steamroll over 60 people in the house on the other side… how is that bi-partisan?
when I last looked a partisan is a “Supporter or proponent of a party, cause, faction, person, or idea”
Thus BI-partisan is to work with people with DIFFERENT positions on an idea/cause, or from DIFFERENT factions. Having 6 people from 2 parties who all share ONE position on a cause or idea and have become a SINGLE FACTION – is not Bi-Partisan.
When the faction of 6 try to negotiate with the faction of 60 in the progressive caucus, THAT will be bi-partisan.
I’d love to accommodate your request, alank. But that’s the problem with secret government, and secret deals among a select few: public “evidence” of those deals is scarce to non-existent.
We are left instead with anonymous leaks and circumstantial evidence, which leave the all-important plausible deniability of the actors involved intact. But as to the circumstantial evidence in this case, my comment in wigwam’s diary is an attempt to explain why it is exceedingly doubtful that Baucus and Friends are on a personally-directed, independent quest to thwart the rest of Congress and the President, as the conventional wisdom has it.
I’m not sure bi-partisan is a useful term anymore since it has so many definitions. We have to be more specific like bi-manipulation, bi-secrect-deal, bi-lobbyist-promise, bi-backroom-deal, bi-scenario-writing, and bi-ethics.
Great post, pow wow!
Fwiw (not much I know), Chris Dodd was my first choice among that early presidential field; Obama was 4th on my list.
Let’s just see.
Are mandates with no good “public option” (whatever the fuck that means) going to be jammed down the throats of the American People, with IRS enforcement?
If so, I hope FDL becomes a hotbed of rebellion.
Yeah – I just love all these CSPAN Health Care discussions I am having a hard time getting them all DVR’d.
One big event at the very beginning with no real discussion was all we got – the rest have been closed door lobbyist parties. I am just not sure who is on their knees giving the blow jobs.
Yeah, that word means just about anything politicians want it to mean.
Obama has to be the falatiator in chief. The insurance industry lined up with thier money at the beggining of the scam, Obama serviced them in exchange for political support and now they are working out how to abuse the country. What i dont get, is why the WH thinks the insurance industry will honor any agreements they make about the 2010 midterms, after they get everything they want now??
My prediction: no health care bill gets enacted.
If one does, Obama’s one and gone.
I think, I may be wrong, Obama wants to get re-elected.
yeap on all accounts
WTF is that supposed to mean? that we all get guns and swastikas and join the “patriot” movement? I’d like to see RED STATE become a “hot bed” of literacy, but thats not going to happen any time soon. BTW the “public option” as it was presented by the president,is explained in detail in many of the archived posts. if your interested in actually knowing what your talking about
Take it easy, there are plenty of armchair revolutionaries around.
solerso,
I wish the best for you and yours.
I say, trust yourself first, before all others.
And be aware: There are predators out there.
note the 2013 start date for the house version of a public option (after the next presidential election). that po is very limited in size and scope (imo not even close to being viable as currently conceived), but perhaps it’s sufficient to hold over the insurance industry as a threat: donate to the Rs and we’re going to make you regret it (by expanding the po)?
this is all just a wild guess on my part, but the po looks to me to be a bargaining chip and not just for this year.
the time to complain about “back room” deals was when Obama decided that single payer was “off the table”. Its a tad late to complain about a lack of debate, when you’ve been trashing the backers of Medicare for All for months for making the same point about the lack of genuine debate.
But I guess that backroom deals are okay as long as you support the outcome…
Or as Gilbert and Sullivan put it in HMS Pinafore:
Or, alternatively from Iolanthe:
Geebuz, way to jump the shark.
I take what Art ‘meant’ was for FDL to take leadership in organizing protest and resistance to the enactment of mandates without a public option.
That protest and resistance could include calls, letters, marches, street protests, worker strikes, govt. strikes, and such.
NO where at any time in FDL have I thought or seen or recalled that Art would or did suggest or imply using the tactics and imagery you imply he said.
You just a little testy, or what?
And in case YOU haven’t read this post, and a billion other’s like it, it appears we’re being hijacked and WILL end up with mandates crammed at the uninsured who can’t afford it, WITH government penalty’s, and without ANY govt. controls or regulations on structuring pricing and CONTROLLING pricing for pharma or healthcare premiums.
This is a giveaway, and it calls for the metaphorical ‘pitchforks and torches’ in the streets, massive civil disobedience, and if YOU can’t get behind that concept, you ain’t willing to fight for reform.
Now I’M gettin a little testy . . . . *G*
Like Raven said, ease up, hoss.
uh, this post was written by powwow. do you have any evidence of powwow ever trashing single payer advocates or supporting backroom deals?
i don’t think so.
put up or back off.
i hate the censorship, triangulation, etc that has been directed at single payer advocates too. but you do no one any favors by directing your ire at someone who has for years been writing with only the greatest integrity (here and at glenn’s).
NY Times Magazine The Insiders: Obama Team Works Congress From the Inside
Bipartisanship is not working. President Obama needs to push a single payer bill through. Health care is a human right. By the way we 50,000 people dying because of inadequate or non-existing health care coverage. That’s close to the number of people we lost in Vietnam only it will happen every year we have uninsured Americans. There’s going to be a Health care march on Washington Sept,13th.
Too much money is involved for the little people to be involved, as we can plainly see. Great reporting, though; would that there were more.
You mean like the word “public option?”
It may well get enacted, but the PO and the exchange won’t be operating until 2013; so you’ll have an incentive to vote for Obama in 2012, because without him even that pitiful option in HR 3200 will get trash-canned by the rethugs.
You got it lukasiak. They trashed Medicare for All, and now they’re all over us to mobilize for the pitiful PO in HR 3200. Amazing, the audacity of chutzpah, isn’t it?
imo some people have done what you describe, but if powwow was one of them i’d be shocked as hell.
Thanks for quoting me, I think. The state officers’ convention is Saturday. We will see if Jon Tester and Max unleash the flying monkeys on me.
Chris Hedges piece today says that doctors will be marching on Wa