United States Constitution, Article I, Section 8:
The Congress shall have power . . .
To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
• Professor Jules Lobel, in prepared testimony to an April, 2008 House Foreign Affairs subcommittee:
The Article I congressional power to declare war is not limited to the formal power of issuing a declaration, nor to authorizing full-scale wars, but was intended to give Congress the power to decide whether the United States should initiate any offensive military hostilities, however big or little, or for whatever purposes.9
[Footnote 9: See, e.g., Bas v. Tingy, 4 U.S. 33, 35-36 4 Dall. 37, 40 (1800) (Washington J.) ("every contention by force, between two nations, in external matters, under the authority of their respective governments, is not only war, but public war.").]
Moreover, to the extent there is any doubt as to the meaning of the Declare War Clause, the clause immediately following it gives Congress the power to “grant letters of Marque and Reprisal.” In the 18th century, Letters of Marque and Reprisal had two meanings. The first, now obsolete, referred to authorization given to private merchantmen to fight the enemy. Second, and still relevant today, letters of marque and reprisal referred to imperfect wars, special wars, limited wars, reprisals — all of which constituted hostilities that were something less than full-scale war.10 For example, both Alexander Hamilton and Secretary of War James McHenry advised President John Adams in 1798 that any use of American naval force beyond repelling attack on the nation’s seacoast, armed vessels or commerce within American waters, “comes within the sphere of reprisals and . . . requires the explicit sanction of that branch of the government which is alone constitutionally authorized to grant letters of marque and reprisal.”11
• Professor Michael Ramsey, writing at opiniojuris.org on March 23, 2011:
Does the Libya intervention amount to a “war” in constitutional terms? Samuel Johnson’s influential 18th century dictionary defined “war” broadly as “the exercise of violence under sovereign command, against withstanders.” International law writers of the time expressed similarly expansive definitions. Although there are surely borderline cases, our use of force against Libya easily qualifies: the opponent is the Libya government, and our objective is to use “violence under sovereign command” to force that government to change course.
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Why can’t the President begin a war informally, merely by ordering an attack, without a declaration?
The answer is that in founding-era terminology war could be “declared” either by formal announcement or by military action initiating hostilities. John Locke’s classic Two Treatises of Government from the late 17th century referred to “declar[ing] by word or action.” Blackstone and Vattel, two of the 18th century legal writers most influential in America, also used “declare” in this way. Vattel wrote: “When one nation takes up arms against another, she from that moment declares herself an enemy to all individuals of the latter.” Johnson’s dictionary gave as one definition of “declare” to “shew in open view” – which, applied to warfare, would obviously encompass military attacks. (References are found in my Chicago Law Review article, Part III; for a more comprehensive account, see this outstanding article by Saikrishna Prakash). Thus in 18th century terms initiating an attack was as much “to declare war” as was making a formal announcement; Congress’ Article I, Section 8 power is not narrowly about issuing formal announcements, but broadly about authorizing the sorts of actions that begin war.
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If Congress’ power is to decide when war should begin, it follows that the President cannot independently launch attacks.
And the Constitution’s drafters expressly described the clause as designed to exclude presidential war-initiation power. James Wilson told the Pennsylvania ratifying convention: “This system will not hurry us into war; it is calculated to guard against it. It will not be in the power of a single man, or a single body of men, to involve us in such distress; for the important power of declaring war is vested in the legislature at large.”
As a result, the founding generation’s views are clear and have firm basis in the Constitution’s text: the declare war clause gives Congress the exclusive power to decide when war should be “declared” – meaning begun by “word or action.”
• War powers expert Louis Fisher, in a 1998 paper co-authored with David Gray Adler:
The meaning of the war clause was thus settled at the dawn of the republic. The word “declare” enjoyed a settled understanding and an established usage. As early as 1552, the verb “declare” had become synonymous with the verb “commence.” They both mean the initiation of hostilities.31 This was the established usage in international law as well as in England, where the terms declare war and make war were used interchangeably.
This practice was familiar to the Framers. As Chancellor James Kent of New York, one of the leading jurists of the founding period, stated: “As war cannot lawfully be commenced on the part of the United States, without an act of Congress, such an act is, of course, a formal official notice to all the world, and equivalent to the most solemn declaration.” While Kent interpreted “declare” to mean “commence,” he did not assert that the Constitution requires a congressional declaration of war before hostilities could be lawfully commenced, but merely that it be initiated by Congress. What is “essential,” according to Kent, is “that some formal public act, proceeding directly from the competent source, should announce to the people at home their new relations and duties growing out of a state of war, and which should equally apprize neutral nations of the fact.”32 Thus, Congress need not declare war. All that is required under American law is a joint resolution or an explicit congressional authorization of the use of military force against a named adversary.
• Louis Fisher in written testimony for a January, 2007 Senate Judiciary Committee hearing:
The breadth of congressional power is evident simply by looking at the text of the Constitution and comparing Article I to Article II. The powers expressly stated give Congress the predominant role in matters of war. However, this purely textual reading misses what the American framers did, why they did it, and how they broke with the reigning British models of executive power. Their study of history led them to place in Congress the sole power to take the country from a state of peace to a state of war. They left with the President, in his capacity as Commander in Chief, certain defensive powers to “repel sudden attacks.”
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The framers carefully studied this monarchical model and repudiated it in its entirety. Not a single one of Blackstone’s prerogatives was granted to the President. They are either assigned entirely to Congress (declare war, issue letters of marque and reprisal, raise and regulate fleets and armies) or shared between the Senate and the President (appointing ambassadors and making treaties). The rejection of the British and monarchical models could not have been more sweeping.
With that as background, here’s what the United States Senator who presently chairs the powerful Armed Services Committee read aloud, from prepared opening remarks for a March 8, 2011 full committee hearing convened “To receive testimony on the Department of the Navy in review of the Defense Authorization Request for Fiscal Year 2012 and the Future Years Defense Program” (informally, the “Navy posture hearing”) – at about 27 minutes into the recording of the hearing, a few minutes into his opening statement:
“And new challenges have emerged in recent days. Two ships, with a Marine Expeditionary Unit of over 1000 Marines aboard, are in the Mediterranean. Missile-launching ships are available should the President choose to use them to strike Libyan targets, including military aircraft, air defenses, air strips, command centers, and bases. Before exercising any use of force option, the President is appropriately seeking support from the international community, in particular the support of other countries in the Arab and Muslim worlds and in the region. It has been reported that some Arab states are apparently considering coordinating with the African Union in support of imposing a No-Fly Zone over Libya. Also France and the United Kingdom are drafting a resolution for possible use at the United Nations. Meanwhile, discussions are ongoing at NATO headquarters in advance of the defense ministerial meeting on March 10th and 11th. Under the War Powers Act, the administration would need to consult with Congress before exercising a military option involving the use of force, and to notify Congress promptly if a decision were made to use force. The use and possible use of our forces overseas makes it even more important that our budget provide for their success and their well-being.”
- Senator Carl Levin of Michigan, 3/8/11
The “War Powers Act,” as described in that highly-irresponsible, Yoo-era-OLC-worthy manner by Carl Levin, in fact provides no authority to the President – if only because such a statute cannot provide such authority without an amendment to the Constitution – to unilaterally order our Armed Forces into offensive, or non-emergency defensive, hostilities (for 2-3 months, or one week, or one day). War-making authority must first be explicitly granted to the President by the Congress as a whole (House and Senate), in accordance with our Constitution, absent sudden attack, to be legitimate and lawful. [With regard to Levin's reference to NATO involvement, see Barry Eisler's detailed response here to Juan Cole, analyzing part of NATO's Charter in connection with its attacks on northern Africa. For more on why the U.N. Security Council cannot commit the U.S. to war without specific Congressional authorization for the conflict, see Michael Ramsey's post here, and this 1991 Michael Glennon article (which remains wholly pertinent today). As indicated below, Professor Michael Glennon was also a witness at the April 10, 2008 Foreign Affairs subcommittee hearing - a link to his valuable opening statement, and to the hearing transcript and video, is available at this page. For a generally-excellent overview of Obama's recycling of excuses for his abuses of power, see this recent post by Glenn Greenwald.]
The War Powers Resolution (or “War Powers Act”), a joint resolution which passed in November, 1973 (284-135 in the House, 75-18 in the Senate) over the veto of President Nixon – like all measures enacted by Congress (obviously, to us, if not to our federal representatives of late) – had to comply with, and could not revise or amend, the Constitution – in particular, here, the plenary power of Congress (see above) to commit our Armed Forces into hostilities, except when unable to act in advance of a presidentially-ordered emergency defense against sudden attack on the nation or its forces.
Thus, any responsible, honorable interpretation of the statute codified as 50 U.S.C. §§ 1541-1548 [Public Law 93-148; 87 STAT. 555, as amended] would first examine the required allocation of war powers under the Constitution, and then turn to divining the will of the Congress that passed the War Powers Resolution, as expressed in the legislation’s plain text. That is, an objective interpreter – particularly one serving in the Department of Justice, an agency tasked with helping the President to fulfill his far-reaching and profound Constitutional duty to “take care that the laws be faithfully executed” – would not merely seek to serve the ever-present desire of presidents for more power, by searching for any semi-plausible loophole in the law’s language to try to exploit (while the Judicial Branch dangerously continues to essentially refuse to pass judgement on or to enforce the War Powers Resolution on its merits).
There are no doubt many people in and out of Congress, like Carl Levin at that March 8th hearing, who prefer to read the War Powers Resolution – or to pretend to read it – as legislation designed to accommodate and thus encourage the destructive Truman/UNSecurity Council-style abuses and usurpations of the war power of Congress by recent Presidents. Particularly given the temptation – for Members of Congress and the President, most of whom are all-consumed by their political popularity, and being loudly cheered on by national media companies with a stake in military procurement contracts – to bask in reflected glory from the use of our powerful standing army/armed forces when deployed against inferior opponents. Jules Lobel rightly calls this ugly American trend “the arrogance of power.” Such people – characters epitomized by David Addington, John Yoo, Lindsey Graham & Joe Lieberman – who openly spurn the separation of powers demanded by the Constitution when it comes to war, would prefer instead that the WPR amount to no more than a hortatory or self-contradictory “essay” by Congress, and have thus long worked to redefine the WPR – enabled by the unconscionable ceding of the role and duty of Congress to Party and President by its incumbents, and by the appellate judiciary’s refusal to engage on the war powers issue. [A refusal to engage akin to the stunning refusal of the Supreme Court to defend its 2008 Boumediene decision, which is now in fact essentially just an "essay," because all but eviscerated over the last year by an openly-biased D.C. Circuit appellate court, which is the only lower court allowed to impose (or to prevent, in its case) restrictions on the "wartime" presidential power to imprison foreigners beyond the reach of our nominally-independent judiciary.]
Whether or not the War Powers Resolution is followed in part, or at all, in practice today, given the long absence of effective enforcement of its terms by Congress and the judiciary, ever-present advocates of a form of American monarchy – who shamelessly pretend that the legislation vetoed by Nixon is simply a subtle, implicit admission by Congress that the President unilaterally holds in his hands the non-emergency power of war and peace for this nation – have both the well-documented Constitutional intent of the Declare War Clause, and the explicit “purpose” and “interpretation” language of the War Powers Resolution itself fully and solidly arrayed against them.
The first substantive section of the War Powers Resolution of 1973 (Section 2, or 50 U.S.C. Section 1541), after its title section, leaves little doubt about the (Constitutionally-necessary) intent of the authors of the WPR:
§ 1541. Purpose and policy
(a) Congressional declaration
It is the purpose of this chapter to fulfill the intent of the framers of the Constitution of the United States and insure that the collective judgment of both the Congress and the President will apply to the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, and to the continued use of such forces in hostilities or in such situations.
(b) Congressional legislative power under necessary and proper clause
Under article I, section 8, of the Constitution, it is specifically provided that the Congress shall have the power to make all laws necessary and proper for carrying into execution, not only its own powers but also all other powers vested by the Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any department or officer hereof.
(c) Presidential executive power as Commander-in-Chief; limitation
The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to
(1) a declaration of war,
(2) specific statutory authorization, or
(3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.
If that clearly-expressed “purpose” to uphold Constitutional limits on unilateral presidential war-making is somehow considered insufficient to establish Congressional intent in the War Powers Resolution, let’s turn instead to Section 8 of the original joint resolution, codified as follows:
§ 1547. Interpretation of joint resolution
(a) Inferences from any law or treaty
Authority to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities or into situations wherein involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances shall not be inferred—
(1) from any provision of law (whether or not in effect before November 7, 1973), including any provision contained in any appropriation Act, unless such provision specifically authorizes the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities or into such situations and states that it is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of this chapter; or
(2) from any treaty heretofore or hereafter ratified unless such treaty is implemented by legislation specifically authorizing the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities or into such situations and stating that it is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of this chapter.
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(d) Constitutional authorities or existing treaties unaffected; construction against grant of Presidential authority respecting use of United States Armed Forces
Nothing in this chapter—
(1) is intended to alter the constitutional authority of the Congress or of the President, or the provisions of existing treaties; or
(2) shall be construed as granting any authority to the President with respect to the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities or into situations wherein involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances which authority he would not have had in the absence of this chapter.
See any ambiguity in intent in those WPR excerpts? Even without taking into account the Vietnam-era context and legislative history of this legislation, it takes a lot of gall, and deliberate distortion, if not a full reversal, of the Constitution’s separated war powers, and of clearly-expressed Congressional will, to pretend, as the Executive Branch’s Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) has repeatedly dishonorably done while advising/supporting its own branch of government, that Congress created or acknowledged in the War Powers Resolution an undefined, unspecified presidential power to unilaterally use offensive armed force at will for a period of two-three months – as, for example, implied by Walter Dellinger on behalf of President Clinton’s OLC in 1994:
See, for example, Letter from Assistant Attorney General Walter Dellinger to Sen. Robert Dole et al., (Sept. 27, 1994) in 140 CONG. REC. 140, at S14314 (1994) arguing that the War Powers Resolution “recognizes and presupposes” presidential power to initiate some [non-defensive] hostilities for less than 60 days.
- Footnote 16 in the April, 2008 Congressional testimony of Jules Lobel
As Louis Fisher and David Gray Adler said in their 1998 paper:
The Clinton theory of the [War Powers] Resolution, spun from the legal workshop of Assistant Attorney General Walter Dellinger, claimed that the statute “recognizes and presupposes the existence of unilateral Presidential authority to deploy armed forces [quoting from the statute] ‘into hostilities or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances.’” (Dellinger carefully refers to the resolution as an “acknowledgment”, not a “source,” of executive power, because what Congress grants it may take away.)
To Dellinger, the structure of the resolution “makes sense only if the President may introduce troops into hostilities or potential hostilities without prior authorization by the Congress.36 By declining to prohibit the president from deploying troops into situations like Haiti, Dellinger says that Congress “has left the President both the authority and the means to take such initiatives.” Later, at a law school conference, he elaborated on that point: “By establishing and funding a military force capable of being sent around the globe, and declining in the War Powers Resolution or elsewhere to forbid the President’s use of his statutory and constitutional powers to deploy troops into situations of risk such as Haiti, Congress left the President both the authority and the means to take such initiatives.”37
Read in that light, the War Powers Resolution grants to the president an unlimited, discretionary authority to choose war or peace.
Given the refusal of the federal appellate judiciary in the modern era to involve itself in enforcing the Constitution’s deliberate division of the nation’s war powers between Congress and the President, the President’s Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) has happily substituted itself for the Supreme Court, in practice, daring Congress to repudiate its self-serving interpretation of their legislation – an interpretation that’s based almost entirely on the twisting of language like this from Section 3 (50 U.S.C. 33, Section 1542) of the law:
§ 1542. Consultation; initial and regular consultations
The President in every possible instance shall consult with Congress before introducing United States Armed Forces into hostilities or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, and after every such introduction shall consult regularly with the Congress until United States Armed Forces are no longer engaged in hostilities or have been removed from such situations.
Bruce Fein, in April, 2008 testimony to the House Foreign Affairs subcommittee, reviewed some recent history to document how the presidential “Trust Me” has proven to be insufficient as a Congressional or judicial check on presidential war-making, which increasingly threatens the peace, prosperity and liberty of this nation:
The incentives for the President to inflate danger to justify resort to war are manifold [and] were amplified by James Madison in 1793 — wisdom that has been confirmed by the ages: [...] In the United States, President James K. Polk lied about the deaths of American soldiers at the hands of Mexico to justify the Mexican-American War. President Roosevelt lied about Nazi submarine attacks on American vessels in hopes of hurrying the nation into World War II. President Lyndon Johnson lied about North Vietnamese attacks on two navy destroyers to obtain congressional enactment of the Gulf of Tonkin resolution. President George W. Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to justify invasion and a seemingly endless United States occupation. President Bush has similarly exaggerated the danger of Al Qaeda logarithmically to the equivalent of Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, Hitler, Hirohito, and Mussolini to justify perpetual warfare against international terrorism. Since 9/11 [2001, and as of April, 2008] there have been approximately 150,000 murders in the United States without provoking cries of hurling the military into combat against would-be murderers. Madison admonished that, ”No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.”
Louis Fisher and David Gray Adler relayed a similar narrative in 1998:
For the past half century, presidents have resorted to the use of word games to justify their military adventures, but semantics are a poor substitute for legal analysis. On 29 June 1950, at a news conference, President Truman denied that the United States was “at war” in Korea. Rather, it was a “police action under the United Nations.” In fact, it was an American war – measured by troops, money, casualties, and deaths – from start to finish. A federal district court noted in 1953: “We doubt very much if there is any question in the minds of the majority of the people of this country that the conflict now raging in Korea can be anything but war” (Weissman v. Metropolitan Life Ins., Co., 112 E Supp. 420, 425 (S.D. Cal. 1953)).
When Bush invaded Panama in December 1989, the State Department called it a “humanitarian intervention.” The Organization of American States, pointing to language in the OAS Charter that regards the territory of a nation as inviolable, condemned the invasion by a vote of 20 to l.
A year later, the Justice Department argued in court that Bush could order offensive actions against Iraq without seeking advance authority from Congress. According to this theory, the use of 500,000 ground troops and air strikes fell short of war. As we noted, Judge Greene found no merit in this argument, dismissing it as a mere semantic ploy to avoid the plain language of the Constitution.
The Framers recognized that the president might have to respond promptly on his own initiative to “repel sudden attacks” against the United States. But the Framers reserved to Congress the authority and responsibility for taking offensive actions against other nations. The president could repel, but not commence war. As James Wilson explained at the Pennsylvania ratifying convention, it “will not be in the power of a single man” to take us to war.
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The Framers adopted a set of principles that are fundamental to self-government. The constitutional requirement of congressional authorization for offensive actions represented a radical break from monarchical rule in England, and it reflected the Framers’ commitment to republican principles in the conduct of foreign policy. Word games by presidents to get around this requirement do much to harm and undermine the values of our constitutional democracy.
The same harm and undermining of our Constitutional order and democratic Republic is caused by the “word games” played by irresponsible Congressional water-carriers of the President, like Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois, who played the manipulative ends-justify-the-means card on behalf of President Obama’s attack on Libya, in a telling exchange with Rand Paul of Kentucky (whose pointed questions about the War Powers Resolution Durbin ducked), last Wednesday, March 30, 2011 – starting at about 20:47 and 21:58 of this C-SPAN clip of Senate floor action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdBF6QPKzPQ&feature=player_embedded
At the beginning of that clip, just after calling up his important, now-pending motion to commit with instructions (on which he and Mike Lee of Utah are courageously acting to enforce their right to a vote), Rand Paul commendably states, in part:
I agree with what Candidate Barack Obama said. We should not go to war without congressional authority. These are the checks and balances that give you a say, that give the people of America a say through their representatives. This allows us to say when we go to war through our Congress, not through one individual but through 535 individuals whom you elect.
I think the decision to go to war is such an important one that we should not leave it up to one person. Our Founding Fathers agreed with this.
In the 1970s, after Vietnam, we voted on something called the War Powers Act. We did give the President the right to go to war in certain circumstances. These circumstances were, one, if Congress had declared war; two, if Congress had authorized the use of military force, or three, if there was imminent danger to our country. I think all of us recognize that. If we were in imminent danger of attack, we would allow the President some latitude, but we would expect very quickly for him to come to Congress and ask for permission.
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This is such an important constitutional principle that, while I am new here in the Senate, I am appalled that the Senate has abdicated its responsibility, that the Senate has chosen not to act and to allow this power to gravitate to the President. I think that the precedent of allowing a President to continue to act or to initiate war without congressional review, without congressional votes, without the representatives of the people having any say, is a real problem.
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Yet here we have a President cavalierly taking us to war. He seems to have had a lot of time to talk to people. He talked to the Arab League. They had time to get together and vote on it. He talked to the U.N. They had time to get together and vote on it. But he had utter disregard and contempt for the most important body in the United States that represents the people–the U.S. Congress. Utter contempt. He has gone to NATO. He has gone to our allies. He has gone to the U.N. He has gone to the Arab League. But he has not had one single minute of debate in Congress.
To add insult to injury, he chose to go to war while in Brazil, while Congress was not even in session. This really should not be the way we operate as a constitutional republic.
Dick Durbin, meanwhile, busy serving his Party/President, rather than our Constitution or the institution in which he serves, tried to pretend, in response to Paul’s comments, that “Congress” was properly informed and involved because a select few members were issued private invitations to a royal audience – that is, to hear a sales pitch over the phone from the White House situation room:
It was in the midst of all this that the President was leaving for South America and Congress was leaving for a 1-week scheduled recess. That is a fact. On the Friday [March 18, the day after the UNSC adopted Resolution 1973, and one day before the bombing of Libya began on March 19th], which is now about 10 days ago, before we left, the President had a conference call and invited all members of the [Party] leadership, Democratic and Republican, House and Senate, to listen to a briefing from the Situation Room about the exact military situation we faced and invited questions and comments from all Members of Congress who were part of that conversation. I was part of that conversation. I listened to it carefully. It became clear to me that the President had laid down certain conditions to U.S. involvement.
No. 1, the President said: No American ground troops.
No. 2, the President said: This is a war of short duration as far as the United States is concerned; in his words, “days,” not weeks, and he went on to say that the United States would use its unique capabilities to help those allies of the United States who wanted to stop Qadhafi’s killing. He used the phrase “unique capabilities” several times in that conversation.
I wasn’t sure what he meant. I learned later in press reports. The United States used technology on the initial air invasion for the no-fly zone that stopped the radar of the Libyans so our planes and the planes of our allies could travel across Libya and stop their planes and tanks without danger. So that was the commitment made by the President.
Giving Rand Paul and Mike Lee at least a little company in the U.S. Senate, Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama belatedly spoke up on behalf of Congress too last week, though – like Carl Levin, Dick Durbin and apparently many or most incumbent federal legislators – Sessions has long-since proven that he selectively applies the Constitution based on Party and personal allegiances, rather than allegiance to his oath of office. But his statement did at least record that the “classified” briefing about Libya held for Members of Congress last Wednesday, 3/30 – first for the House (apparently at John Boehner’s request), followed a few hours later for members of the Senate – was of little substance:
This was a war, to use a phrase in recent years, of choice. It was not a military action that was demanded because we had been attacked on our soil or in our legitimate bases somewhere around the world and we had to defend ourselves immediately.
So I am not happy about it. I think it is a big mess. I think Democrats and Republicans have the same unease about it, and I believe it is time for Congress to assert itself more effectively.
We had a [secret] briefing last night, 5 o’clock, 6 o’clock. It went 50 minutes. Frankly, I did not get a lot out of it. I heard little that I had not picked up from the cable news networks. We turned on the television this morning, and we saw news about the CIA involvement there, for good or ill. I did not hear that discussed at our briefing. It would have been nice to have heard it straight from the administration’s leaders, rather than seeing it on television the next morning. So this is the kind of situation we are in. It is not acceptable. Congress must assert itself.
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I am also not happy at the way some resolution [S. Res. 85, introduced March 1 and unanimously adopted with no debate the same day] was passed here that seemed to have authorized force in some way that nobody I know of in the Senate was aware that it was in the resolution when it passed. I am very concerned about that.
The assessment by Senator Sessions of the classified whole-Congress briefing was backed up by at least one member of the House interviewed by Politico:
Lawmakers said they weren’t told much by Secretary of State Clinton, Secretary of Defense Gates, Joint Chiefs Chairman Michael Mullen or Director of National Intelligence James Clapper [during a pair of classified briefings on Wednesday, March 30th] that they couldn’t read in the newspaper or see on television.
They said one dynamic was very clear: The administration doesn’t much care what Congress thinks about the actions it’s taken so far.
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And, as if to add insult to injury, news broke during the House briefing that Obama had already signed an order authorizing covert action in support of the rebels. When asked about it after the first briefing, House members were unaware the president had taken that action.
“I have no knowledge of what he signed,” said Maryland Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee.
Clinton, approached by reporters in a Capitol hallway, refused to say why the order was not discussed in the briefing or whether she felt she had won over skeptics in making the administration’s case for engagement, which many lawmakers say has no clear objective and was undertaken arbitrarily with other crises intensifying across the globe.
So while Dick Durbin pretends that the President’s use of WPR reporting requirements, as set out for the emergency presidential deployment of defensive armed force to repel sudden attack, somehow means that Obama’s unauthorized unilateral attack on Libya “complies” with the War Powers Resolution and the Constitution, Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin reveals his own Party-driven contempt for the institution in which he serves. A contempt which is further evidenced by comments Levin made while huddled with several reporters, on Thursday, March 31st, at the conclusion of an SASC hearing featuring Defense Secretary Gates and Joint Chiefs Chairman Mullen, convened “To receive testimony on Operation Odyssey Dawn and the situation in Libya”:
Reporter (starting 2 hours, 16 minutes into the recording): If a vote were to fail, what would happen…
Senator Carl Levin: On what?
Reporter: On authorization [for the President's attacks on Libya]. Would the Pentagon have to pull out U.S. Forces? [See WPR, Section 1544(b)]
Levin: No. No.
[Pause.]
Second Reporter: These are resolutions, though, they’re not authorizations you’re talking about… These are essentially…
Levin (to First Reporter): The only thing that would force them out would be a, a power of the purse, uh, cutting off funds, and I don’t expect that would happen. In fact, I’m sure it won’t happen. [Again, compare this statement to Section 1544(b) of the War Powers Resolution - which soon "forces them out," even though the presumption is that the president's unilateral war is a lawful, emergency defensive use of force, if Congress doesn't act to specifically authorize that use of force within 60 days.]
First Reporter: Have you had any discussions with the Pentagon about a supplemental?
Levin: No.
First Reporter: I know Secretary Gates said he thinks he can pay for it internally [using $4 Billion in Congressional 'add-ons' to the DOD's requested budget].
Levin: I haven’t… I’ve been involved in too many other things to do that. I think the first question is whether – I don’t know if Paul’s… In terms of authorization, the first thing to come up would be Senator Paul’s [non-binding] Sense of the Senate [the motion to commit], and I don’t know if that’s on the list [of amendments to the pending Small Business bill that may eventually be unanimously set for a debate and votes after a week of inaction], and I don’t know what the status is because I’ve been here all afternoon. But [Paul] has a Sense of the Senate resolution, and the first important thing would be to defeat that because that says that – limits the authority of the President to ways which… [pause] …just about every President since President Truman [has been?/inaudible] in violation, so… That’s the first thing that needs to be addressed. Any authorization resolution requires significant time, I think, to put it together, but also even much more time on the floor. It would deserve a significant debate.
Third Reporter: Senator Paul’s resolution has been referred to this committee [Armed Services, chaired by Levin], and to Foreign Relations. What’s…
Levin: I think he has a Sense of the Senate, motion to refer back, which I think may be on a list of matters to be resolved before the Small Business bill can be adopted. I’m not sure that – unless – it’s so fluid over there, it’s kinda hard to know whether or not Senator Paul’s motion to refer back, and then immediately refer to the, to the Senate – I think it’s the Foreign Relations [Committee] – but anyway, to immediately vote on the President had no authority to do what he did. And that’s, that has to be addressed before any resolution authorizing, or resolution supporting – Senator McCain, Senator Lieberman and I agree that, support this mission. I mean we’re all in support of the mission. So if there is an effort at a authorization resolution – hopefully we can come together on that if there is such an authorization. But there’s a lot of language which would have to be reviewed, and there would need to be set aside a significant amount of time in the Senate for that. And it may be, to some extent, overtaken by the event of the hand-off to NATO and the reduction of our presence. So that it may take away less of the immediacy of acting on something which is already past. Now that doesn’t mean that there’s not a continuing support – so it still would have some relevance, but less immediacy.
Even a non-binding vote to express the Senate’s displeasure with the President’s usurpation of the war powers of Congress is too much self-government and separation of powers for Carl Levin, apparently.
Note, too, how Levin is parroting the administration’s position on this, as detailed by this excellent Charlie Savage post at the New York Times, in which Representative Brad Sherman of California is quoted (regarding Wednesday’s classified briefing about Libya for the House): “Everything I heard about the War Powers Act was evasive and vague,” Mr. Sherman said, adding that Mrs. Clinton had also sidestepped questions by other lawmakers in the briefing. And, at least off the Senate floor, Levin isn’t exactly shy about his full-throated support for unilateral presidential war-making, as this Roll Call report from March 24th underscores:
Sens. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and Jack Reed (D-R.I.) held a conference call Wednesday touting their support of U.S. involvement.
I hope that these particulars help to illustrate both how rare, and how valuable the principled position of Rand Paul is on this issue – as was his recent impressive work on the PATRIOT Act – and how much vocal support and appreciation Senator Paul (and anyone who joins his defense of Congressional prerogative, in both the House and Senate) deserves from those of us who still believe that our sovereign power to wage war, as delegated to our federal representatives, should not be ceded to one man in the presidency. [Rep. Jerry Nadler of New York, to his credit, has been one of those in the House refusing to mince words about this, as CNN reported March 30th: "Briefing Congress is not the same as authorization," Nadler told reporters. "Briefing is nice, but authorization is required under the law."]
Finally, for those in Congress who may be suffering from a ‘failure of imagination,’ here’s a selection of wise advice, still waiting to be taken seriously by its intended audience, itemizing some of the vital reasons why it’s imperative that Congress insist on its plenary power to formally give or withhold approval for military action in advance of the commencement of hostilities, except when national emergency prevents it:
From the limited Q&A at the April, 2008 House Foreign Affairs subcommittee hearing:
Mr. DELAHUNT. Michael Glennon.
Mr. GLENNON. I think, Mr. Chairman, that Mr. Rohrabacher made an argument that I have heard many times, and I just wanted to get a response on the record because a lot of people seem to be persuaded by the argument that he made.
His argument basically was this: Why do we need a War Powers Resolution if we have already got the authority under the Constitution simply not to continue appropriations for a war that we don’t like? I think a lot of your colleagues actually share that viewpoint, who have reservations about the whole idea of the War Powers Resolution. That may be one of the reasons that it hasn’t worked too well.
I think there are two problems with Congressman Rohrabacher’s approach; and I am sorry he is not here to engage in this colloquy. Number one, the option of not voting for funds for a war really isn’t available unless you are willing to close down the Pentagon. You don’t — with very rare circumstances — get a simple supplemental, as you know, with money that goes explicitly and exclusively for the use of force. It is included in the Pentagon authorization or appropriations. So you are then locked into the kind of fight that Newt Gingrich had with Bill Clinton about whether you are basically going to close down the government over this particular dispute. That is not really an effective way of wielding the appropriations power.
The other alternative is, as he suggested, to offer a rider, an amendment to an appropriations bill. As Lou [Fisher] pointed out, that was done seven times between 1973–1975 when Congress said that no funds may be authorized or appropriated under this or any other legislation to carry out military or combat operations in over or off the shores of South Vietnam, North Vietnam, Cambodia or Laos.
The problem is, the President will veto that legislation and then you have got to override his veto by a two-thirds vote, creating the anomalous situation that you need a two-thirds vote to get out of a war, but only a majority vote to get into war. As Lou Fisher has often pointed out, that really stands on its head the whole intent of the Framers of the Constitution. It was quite the reverse.
So Congressman Rohrabacher’s instinct really leads down, I think, two impractical cul-de-sacs, and the only way out of that is to enact framework legislation like the War Powers Resolution that makes the use of the appropriations for war powers practicable.
From Louis Fisher‘s informal opening statement at the same 2008 House Foreign Affairs subcommittee hearing:
One, part of the reason that we have gone off the rails in war powers is what we have done after World War II. Namely, we allow Presidents to go to war not by coming to Congress but by going to the U.N. Security Council, which Truman did in 1950 and which others have done since that time. I submit to you, you cannot have a President and the Senate, [through] the treaty process, adopt a procedure that eliminates you people, the House of Representatives; but that has been done, and it has been done repeatedly.
From a 1978 Louis Fisher paper – written before 1983′s Chadha decision by the Supreme Court about the so-called “legislative veto” – in which Fisher seems to have accurately distinguished, in advance of Chadha, the different forms and legitimacy of “legislative vetoes,” such that his 1978 assessment of the concurrent resolution provision of the War Powers Resolution – using logic that seems hard to dispute, unless the only plenary powers assigned by the Constitution that deserve protecting are those belonging to the Executive Branch – may be unchanged today:
Depending upon circumstances, the exercise of the legislative veto may indeed encroach upon the president’s constitutional powers. The Legal Adviser to the State Department told a House committee in 1975 that if the president has the power to put men into combat “that power could not be taken away by concurrent resolution because the power is constitutional in nature.”19 Surely it is too broad a proposition to claim that the president has an unrestricted power to put men into combat, but a strong case can be made for the president’s responsibility to defend his armed forces and to protect American lives abroad.
On balance, the legislative veto in the War Powers Resolution is justified. Without it, Congress’s own constitutional powers could be gravely impaired. Recall that in 1973 a majority in both houses wanted to bring the war in Southeast Asia to a halt. Each legislative action was countered by a veto. A federal court argued that the failure of Congress to override the vetoes should not be taken as legislative authority to continue the war. Said Judge Judd: “It cannot be the rule that the President needs a vote of only one-third plus one of either House in order to conduct a war, but this would be the consequence of holding that Congress must override a Presidential veto in order to terminate hostilities which it has not authorized.”20 To insist that every legislative action must be presented to the president, and made subject to his veto power, would allow a president to conduct a war with minority backing. No such intention should be read into the Constitution.
From Professor Jules Lobel‘s prepared testimony for the April, 2008 House Foreign Affairs subcommittee hearing::
I have not only written extensively on the question of constitutional war powers, but I am Vice President of the Center for Constitutional Rights, on whose behalf I have represented members on both sides of the aisle in lawsuits challenging Presidential usurpations of congressional authority over warfare. [...]
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Where Congress is too divided, conflicted, or unsure to affirmatively authorize warfare, both the Constitution and the War Powers Resolution require that the United States not go to war [except to repel sudden attack]. What had in effect occurred [during the Clinton Administration's air war against Yugoslavia in 1999] was that Congress had not wanted to specifically authorize the war because many members disagreed with it, but neither did it want to be responsible for forcing the President to terminate it. That situation was contemplated by the Resolution, which required explicit, affirmative authorization.
Nonetheless, the judicial response to Campbell’s claims was that congressional refusal to authorize the war was insufficient to invoke judicial enforcement because “Congress has a broad range of legislative authority it can use to stop a President’s war making . . . .”17 Congress could have passed a law forbidding the use of U.S. forces in the Yugoslav campaign, or Congress could have cut off funds for continuing the war. Indeed, every time I argued a case seeking to enforce the constitutional or statutory mandate that Congress affirmatively authorize war — the Central American cases of the 1980s, the first Iraq War before Judge Greene in 1990 or the Kosovo case almost a decade later — judges said in effect “why should I enforce congressional war powers when Congress will not.” The answer I gave was that to require Congress to act affirmatively to stop a war reversed the Constitution’s presumption that the President was required to obtain explicit, affirmative congressional authorization to go to war, not that he or she could go to war unless Congress could muster a majority to stop the war. Congressional silence is sufficient constitutionally to deny the President authority to go to war; nonetheless it was insufficient to force either the President to terminate warfare or to get the Courts to do so on behalf of members of Congress.
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Moreover, launching a surprise attack against a nation that has not attacked us ought not be a reasonable justification for avoiding the constitutional process. The phrase “repel sudden attacks” simply cannot, with any rationality, be turned into a justification for “launching sudden attacks.”
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The [WPR-revising] statute [proposed in 2008 by Rep. Walter Jones] should also direct the courts to not apply the various non-justiciability doctrines that courts have relied on to abstain from ruling on war powers challenges in the past. A provision should be added similar to that contained in Senator Biden’s Use of Force bill providing that in any action brought by private plaintiffs or members of Congress seeking compliance with the provisions of this Act, the court shall not decline to make a determination on the merits based on the doctrine of political question or any other non-justiciability doctrine. The statute could also state that a presidential violation of the bill would create an impasse with Congress and that Congress’ view was that separation of powers principles required the Court to decide the merits of any challenge brought against an alleged violation. In the two wars against Iraq, soldiers who did have standing challenged presidential violations in court, but their claims were dismissed as presenting nonjusticiable political questions.26 While Congress cannot override any core Article III requirement, it can negate the prudential judicial concerns that the resolution of the issue should be left to the political branches to determine.
From the written testimony of Louis Fisher at the April, 2008 House Foreign Affairs subcommittee hearing:
Part of the purpose of the Commander in Chief Clause is to preserve civilian supremacy. Military commitments are not in the hands of admirals and generals but are placed in civilian leaders, including members of Congress. Lawmakers can at any time limit and terminate military commitments. The framers vested the decisive and ultimate powers of war and spending in the legislative branch. American democracy places the sovereign power in the people and entrusts to them the temporary delegation of that power to elected Senators and Representatives.[9]
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First, however valuable and useful interbranch consultation can be, it is never a substitute for legislation that specifically authorizes a presidential military action. Presidents may decide to meet with lawmakers whenever they like. [...]
Second, the decision to take the country to war is set aside for each member of Congress, from the Speaker to the newly elected lawmaker. On a decision of that gravity, every member is equal. No member has rank or special power.
Third, a President and his executive aides should not be able to co-opt a small group of lawmakers, who might ”sign off” on a military commitment and thereby pledge House and Senate support. The most recent example of that danger is the ”Gang of Eight” that appeared to be supportive of the NSA surveillance program. Congressional leaders lack authority to imply or grant congressional support for a military operation. That decision is reserved to each member of Congress, including the most junior.
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The framers put their faith not in an all-wise, all-knowing Executive but in a republican form of government where sovereign power remains with the people and their interests are protected by the structure of separated powers and the operation of checks and balances.



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With regard to the referenced “motion to commit”/Sense of the Senate language that Rand Paul has offered, to which Carl Levin objects, Amendment 276 (to the pending small business-related bill) would contain the language in question, as follows:
The Senate is holding one judicial confirmation vote this evening, and then two votes (one on a Menendez amendment, one on final passage) on the 1099 “fix” to the health care legislation Tuesday morning before their weekly segregated Party Caucus luncheons at midday. Backroom negotiations will continue in the meantime (including with Rand Paul), on scheduling a set time for amendment/motion votes on the small business bill, while Harry Reid keeps Senate floor business suspended, with the quorum call that doesn’t call the quorum, until those negotiations come to some sort of conclusion.
[I don't know how this diary ended up out of chronological/hourly order, upon publishing half an hour ago. It's positioned ahead of diaries posted hours earlier, for some reason.]
powwow, this diary is more than superb, it is required reading for anyone who wishes to understand a central aspect of of the long-standing Executive power-grab.
I recommend this diary to the close attention of everyone at FDL.
The willingness of Congress, by a huge majority in BOTH houses to acceed to this blatant usurpation, a bipartisan willingness, lays bare the specious argument that one party is better, if only slightly.
Our political-judicial system, the three twigs of democracy, is happily destroying civil society and is corrupt beyond redemption.
We, the people, are left to determine if this is owing to stupidity, incompetence or total complicity.
Thank you, powwow, for clearing the “air”, that we might see the truth.
DW
Powwow, truly good to see you posting again and providing excelent analysis regards the Constitution; definitely rec’d.
“The same harm and undermining of our Constitutional order and democratic Republic is caused by the “word games” has been going on a long time and doesn’t just apply to this Admin or Congress.
It appears to me that the conflict between a ‘fixed’ and ‘living’ document is ongoing with the fulcrum of the lever being the idea that corporations have the same rights as a living ,breathing person. So much extends from that idea.
And what we have to remember is the tension that the Constitution embodies versus the ideas brought forth from the Declaration of Independence has still to be resolved.
It may be time for another Convention.
It should have been brought before Congress, there was plenty of time to do so between when the Security Council voted and when the first shots were fired in anger, which was 20 hours, regardless of what people feel about whether or not any military action should have been taken. Rand Paul is absolutely correct that it is not covered by the War Powers Act. I would argue that there has been entirely too much secrecy and entirely too much holding the authority in too few hands, informing too few people, and considering too many issues that were not relevant to the issue that was claimed at hand.
But this is the second time for this. President Bush never brought the peace operation negotiated in Bonn in December 2001 that became Security Council Resolution 1386 before Congress. Never. And Congress never demanded of him. So if the Republicans in Congress are acting as if this is unprecedented, they are wrong. They themselves failed to do so when it was their Congress and their president.
I love the idea of a Senate vote. But I wish it was standalone and not incorporated as a 246th amendment/fraction of a muddled whole.
Thanks, DW.
Unfortunately and inexplicably, as I indicated in my first comment, this diary somehow made its “debut” on the “Recent Diaries” list half-way down the list, and has scrolled away completely by now – so I’m sure many people scanning the top of that list (where it never appeared) for new entries missed it. Meanwhile, Scarecrow’s “Ocean Watch” diary, which was posted about four hours before this one, remains visible at this time, in the last spot on the Recent Diaries list (along with about 9 other diaries that preceded mine but, unlike this one, remain visible in the sidebar). I believe at least one other diary posted within an hour of mine suffered the same fate.
Just another unexplained “MyFDL” software bug of some sort, that’s not exactly calculated to inspire a repeat of the sort of effort that went into this diary. [While drafting the diary, I repeatedly lost all content while toggling between the "Visual" mode's small screen and large screen. This place certainly makes you perform 'without a net.']
It seems worth reposting the whole diary, just to give it a fighting chance at visibility, but I suppose that would violate some sort of FDL or polite blogging protocol (although newest content on top is about as basic as it gets in blogging), so I probably won’t bother.
Repost it, powwow, “polite” protocol be damned …
It is THAT important!
It needs to be seen.
DW
In fact, powwow, this is the most important diary I’ve seen here in quite some time.
Period.
DW
I’ll bide a wee, then, DW, and reconsider my options, given your enthusiastic endorsement of a repost. Thanks very much for your encouraging support.
Hi, ubetcha.
Yes, it seems that we are in pretty dire need of a couple of Constitutional amendments, at minimum, given the recent deplorable product and practice of all three branches of our government:
To mandate that campaigns for federal public office are Constitutionally required to use only public funding for their expenses.
To create a Department of Justice for the nation that actually, “faithfully” enforces the law, without fear or favor. Meaning, equally for the highest, most responsible and powerful members of the Executive Branch of government, as for those among the powerless that today’s DOJ limits itself to prosecuting. Our national law enforcement agency cannot be allowed to continue to function as a political tool of the presidency, which recent Presidents and Attorneys General have turned it into (today’s Holder announcement about Guantanamo prosecutions being just the latest evidence of that) – thanks to the lack of Congressional enthusiasm for their oversight and impeachment powers and duties (where a little, well-grounded exertion would go a long, long way).
Well said, ondelette.
This case is just so clear-cut, that if we ever hope to reclaim and reinforce the intended Constitutional order for the exercise of our nation’s awesome war powers, this is the place to take a stand, and to hold it, if ever there was such a place. [It helps Rand Paul's position, of course, that he has the benefit of no history in Congress on other such presidential usurpations and Congressional abdications, so that, for the time being and until proven otherwise, he (and Mike Lee and other new members in the House and Senate) can escape the hypocrisy charge that rightly applies to so many other veteran incumbents of both Parties.]
Good point. I think Senator Paul took the approach that he did primarily to get a vote on the measure ASAP (without the need to obtain Party or unanimous consent approval to introduce a measure) – so he focused on the current pending business of the Senate for that reason.
I believe a variety of other approaches are in the works, though, on both sides of the issue, and in both the House and Senate. We may eventually have a lot more to cheer on this front from the House, in the end, than from the Senate – where powerful ringleaders like Carl Levin, on behalf of the Executive Branch, are actually working to thwart Senate colleagues who are simply trying to fulfill the Constitutional duty of Congress, on a matter of grave import to the nation.
Thanks — a hopeful/helpful reply! As for Levin — did you see David Swanson’s article last month, Manchurian Senators? One of them was Levin, the other was Jack Reed (targets of military psyops). I know Swanson posts on FDL but I don’t think he posted this article here.
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/manchurian-senators
We have been lied to by our congress that an act can amend or override the constitution.
Patriot ACT
FISA
AUMF
War powers ACT
Of course the Subpreme court has no constitutional say in elections results, so they are in on the lying, too.
happened recently to me too. guessed it was another of the myfdl bugs (but of course don’t know).
in any event, the recommended list is where this diary belongs and i’m v glad to add my recommend to keep it here.
fabulous job powwow. thank you
The MyFDL software may not have given this diary a fair shake, but I see this morning that FDL’s readership didn’t let that get in its way, and somehow retrieved the diary from scrolled-away-land obscurity. Many thanks to one and all for the rescue.
Excellent post. We are not a nation governed by the rule of law. We just have to learn to face the fact that we do not have representation, and the checks and balances have been rendered impotent. Furthermore, our populace is too ignorant to realize what has occured and too apathetic to do anything about it. The constitutional government is a facade behind which the moneyed interests hide to conduct their global business, however they choose to do it.
I think I saw a passing reference to that “Levinreed,” as David calls it, Washington Post op-ed, but hadn’t focused on the details at all. Thanks for the link.
The “Levinreed” concept in fact applies to a lot more than one op-ed. Carl Levin of Michigan and Jack Reed of Rhode Island are, and have long been, joined at the hip on everything having to do with their “clients” – the Pentagon military spenders and war enthusiasts who’ve thoroughly captured both of these soft-spoken “overseers” on the Senate Armed Services Committee (no Pentagon “PsychOps” needed, at least not anymore). Where Carl Levin goes, Jack Reed is never far behind (I added a brief excerpt to the diary about a conference call that Levin/Reed/Durbin held on 3/24 to publicly sing the praises of the Congressionally-unauthorized U.S. bombing of Libya).
Here’s a sampling of David’s comprehensive evisceration of the Pentagon PR being peddled by its chief Senate authorizer and funder, Carl Levin, and his Sidekick Reed (a former Marine, which gives Levinreed the cover of some military veteran credentials):
Many thanks, selise.
It’s good to know that I wasn’t just seeing things, or didn’t somehow manage to push the wrong button at the wrong time. Based on our separate ‘eyewitness accounts,’ it seems safe to assume that there is some sort of software flaw at work here.
Very glad to see your diary is still on the “boards”, this morning powwow, and ’tis my fervent hope that it might even be headlined.
Thanks, again, powwow, for the consistently important and valuable insights you bring us through your research and the powerful, necessary truths which you share so exceptionally clearly with the rest of us.
DW
Great post. Please keep us updated on the results of the vote; if we get one. Should make a great voting list.
Anyone not familiar with Louis Fisher should check out his writings. I first became acquainted with his work when I was in grad school and have tried to collect all his writings.
He is a national treasure.
Tried to recommend but got message about wp something or other is broken, again.
Anyway, recommended powwow. Highly.
Thank you for so obviously caring so deeply about the document that I too care about. We may disagree about some of the interpretations of it, but I think we both share a common respect for it.
Thanks again for this wonderful diary. It is my opinion that the War Powers act is unconstitutional too.
I’m a bit distracted, but am trying to track developments with regard to a vote on the Paul motion, and will post a comment here if and when I learn anything.
The Pauls will drag you progressives kicking and screaming to abandon party for the good of your souls.You recoil from the Pauls because they dare to say the things you believe but are contrary to liberal dogma and Obamaian electability. I could care less if gas costs 5 bucks a gallon and we have to turn off our air conditioners and turn down our thermostats as long as we are not killing people all over the planet. What you refuse to admit yet in your heart of hearts know is that every baby that we collateral damage is your fault. You allow your leaders to pursue a policy to to other nations more akin to Ghengis Khan than Ghandi. Join the Pauls for peace.
Zenostoa
Uh huh. Your precious Rand Paul co-authored a bill introduced by Vitter today to limit birthright citizenship and mess with the 14th Amendment:
http://vitter.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=26da838d-0a55-0c24-0485-c3f020f8272c
If the real Zeno was alive he would shoo you off the stoa.
Thanks! [Recommends apparently go through, even though an error message is displayed.]
I’m glad you read and commented, OFG, because I noticed you stated in a couple of places that you thought that the War Powers Act had been complied with (if not the Constitution), though you disagree with Obama’s actions. So I’ve been meaning to point out to you the misleading talking points about that (see Dick Durbin in the video excerpt above).
I hope the diary helps to make clear that the fundamentals of the War Powers Act are and were not being honored by President Obama in relation to his attack on Libya, even though an ancillary reporting provision of the WPR is being used to pretend that the administration is “in compliance,” as Dick Durbin would have it, with the clearly-stated purpose and interpretation of the WPR. Nifty trick, if they can sell it that way, and they’re trying hard to do just that.
In other words, if a simple report (and a few conference calls) under the War Powers Resolution is all that’s necessary for any unilateral presidential war to be “in compliance” with it and decreed lawful, at least for two months (meaning that the WPR in effect intended to override the Constitution’s division of war powers), “unConstitutional” is putting it mildly. But that interpretation happens to be contrary to the stated “purpose” of the law, and to the extent that it’s nevertheless devolved into the standard practice of the government, it’s that practice that’s “unConstitutional,” rather than the plain language of the WPR itself.
Most of the claims about the law being unConstitutional, though, come from presidential power advocates, who claim that the WPR’s stated “purpose” steals Constitutional power from the president. As to those claims, given the clear historical evidence of the intention of the Constitution’s authors in this area, my response is: If wishes were horses, then beggars would ride.
Yeah, I may have been to generous in saying the War Powers act was met since I was just going by the phone call he made to a few Congresspersons as “notifying the Congress” and thus started the 60 day clock.
But the main thing for me is that met or not, the War Powers act isn’t what needs to be met. The constitution does. And it is crystal clear on which branch of government has the sole authority to declare war, and that is Congress.
IMO there’s just no way in hell that a President declaring war, by actually entering into hostilities, and having the Congress ok it 60 (or 90) days later meets the framers intent. I mean IMO it’s not even a close call.
My Dear Kelly Canfield, pardon me for not addressing you in the male or female. Your androgenous name makes this risky.One question, would Rand Paul, despite this stupid bill,vote against war? If the answer is yes; how in The Holy Name of Jesus Christ could you be against him? Didn`t the Apostle Paul preach from a stoa on Mars Hill? I use FDL.
Zenostoa
One click on his name would reveal a picture that would answer any questions you have about how to address Kelly.
As to your question, even though addressed to Kelly (and I hope he answers too), I just wanted to offer my feelings.
If someone voted against every war to ever come up but also voted against funding any and all safety net programs and other programs that are essential for the safety of things from our workplaces to the food we eat, then you bet I could be against him.
And that pretty much describes Paul. Sure he’ll vote against wars, but he’s also an extreme libertarian, and that makes him a non-starter to any true “progressive” because progressives believe there are crucial roles that should be carried out by government. That doesn’t match up at all with libertarians.
Admitted that Rand and Ron Paul have positions on some issues that I could never support, as a “Progressive” I find that I am often in agreement with them on many issues (war powers, Federal Reserve corruption, etc.) As for Obama, I can’t find any remaining position of his that I can support. So since it’s becoming painfully clear that none of our “Progressive” heros (Warren, Kucinich, et al) are going to “bell the cat,” should I at least hope that one of the Paul’s might?
Yeah, there are several issues where progressives line up well with libertarians.
They’re all issues in which we believe less government is better.
In addition to wars, the legalization of drugs (keeping the government out of our bodies), the Patriot Act (keeping the government from becoming Big Brother), lots of the “morality” legislation too, where conservatives believe government should intrude into our private lives, we progressives agree with the libertarians that government doesn’t belong there.
But while we agree with libertarians on every issue where there should be less government intrusion, we disagree on every issue where we believe government plays a crucial role.
So I think it’s fair to say libertarians have more for a progressive to like than conservatives do, but they also have more to dislike than the conservatives, in that conservatives don’t go near as far as libertarians in terms of completely getting government out of crucial roles.
Conservatives may prefer cutting those things some, but they rarely go so far as to say they should be ended. Libertarians go all the way. And thus they’re actually harder to agree with on those issues than conservatives are.
If I had to choose between an understaffed and underfunded food inspection program or no food inspection program at all, I’ll take the understaffed and underfunded one all day long. IMO libertarianism, in those areas where us progressives believe the role of government is crucial, is so radical as to be far too dangerous to entertain at all.
But yeah, there is almost nothing I can agree with Obama (and the current Democratic Party I might add) on either.
Recommended.
Here’s a preliminary report about developments in the Senate late today, which I caught the tail end of (I’ll post the remaining details once I’ve tracked them down):
A “deal” has finally been reached to do some public work in the Senate on amendments to the small business bill (S. 493), with debate starting tomorrow at 11:00 a.m.
Harry Reid evidently received unanimous consent late Tuesday to schedule roll-call votes tomorrow (Wednesday), on seven measures, starting at 4 p.m. (with the time between 11:00 a.m. and 4 p.m. apparently divided for debate among the various measures). This means that Rand Paul had to grant his consent too, so I assume that Paul’s motion to commit is among those seven measures.
That number of amendments is less than the number that were pending on the bill, so some got dropped, or consolidated, or will perhaps receive voice votes rather than roll-call votes.
Because the floor and amendment process is being so rigidly controlled by the Party(ies), Senators are using any/every legislative vehicle to try to get pet legislation considered via amendment – so it seems likely that none of the amendments up for debate tomorrow will be germane to the legislation at hand. I’ll list the various subject matters once I know what the details of the unanimous consent deal are.
This UC “deal” came to light just before 7:30 p.m. Eastern, Tuesday, and five minutes later the Senate adjourned for the night.
Thank you for retyping this diary. It’s the most comprehensive I’ve seen yet.
I watched the Senate Armed Committee Hearing (SASC) you linked above.
Jim Webb doesn’t seem to understand the War Powers Act or who declares war under the Constitution either, and he is worshipful towards Gates and Mullen.
Gates then tried to tell Susan Collins that Congress had given the President cover with a vote of support. (AP Story, which tries to give some CYA to Obama too.
At which time she pulled out a printed copy of the bill and read from it.
Mods, Please, can you fix my blockquotes?
These should be out, but they’re more deeper nested instead..
1)”IIRC, she said that she wouldn’t have approve a war on Libya, had they held one.”
2) And then this bit of fakery:
Thank you.
Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are in the house trying to do what they can. Rand is in the Senate. Its it’s nto necessary that we agree with them across the board, but that we can help apply pressure here, so this argument amounts to a partisan distraction.
I guess I was more distracted than I realized…
The vote on Rand Paul’s motion to commit, with instructions, was held today, Tuesday, apparently shortly after the Parties emerged from their separate, secret caucus luncheons at 2:15 p.m.
And the Democrats (not to mention most Republicans) were too cowardly to conduct an actual vote on the merits, and instead moved to table the motion (to kill it without debate – it’s just a minor matter, don’t you know). The motion to table passed 90 to 10 (which I’m sure basically amounts to what a vote count on the merits would have looked like too, except in reverse).
Full Roll Call here.
NAYs —10 [These are the supporters of Rand Paul's Sense of the Senate quoting Candidate Obama]
Collins (R-ME)
DeMint (R-SC)
Ensign (R-NV)
Johnson (R-WI)
Lee (R-UT)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Snowe (R-ME)
[Notice Dick Lugar's absence from that column...]
An amazing, and appalling, message has been sent today by an overwhelming majority of the incumbents in the United States Senate. With, naturally, next to no public debate on the matter.
Evidently I should have titled this diary: “The Constitution, The War Powers Resolution, & Libya: Rand Paul Defends Congressional Authority, The Senate Cedes It”
The gory details are here. [The vote was on a motion to table Rand Paul's motion to commit with instructions. Translation: Senators want to be able to pretend that they didn't vote Yea or Nay on the merits of (the actual language of) Senator Paul's measure, but instead only on whether or not to kill it without a vote on the merits. (Who are they kidding?)]
It’s hard to tell from that quote, but hopefully Cooper is acknowledging that Members of Congress have let a string of Presidents walk all over them, by way of deliberate cherry-picking of the War Powers Resolution (safe in the knowledge that the Judicial Branch will throw up its hands if anyone tries to object to the OLC’s faithless twisting of Congressional intent, and that impeachment is apparently “off the table” in the United States Congress). The testimony I quote at length in this diary is from a Congressional hearing held to discuss a laudable effort, by Rep. Walter Jones of North Carolina (joined by Bill Delahunt of Massachusetts, who’s since retired), to slam the door, once and for all, on such dangerous cherry-picking. But, as Cooper rightly notes, Congress never got around to doing anything with the joint resolution that Jones wrote to improve the WPR back in 2008. And shame on them for that – it’s way past time for legislators to be more than “troubled” or “worried” or “concerned.” They should be hopping mad about it.
For more on the way that Presidents evade the WPR, see Michael Glennon’s testimony at that 2008 hearing (some of which I quibble with, as giving too much credence to self-serving OLC and State Department legal opinions), which describes this favorite presidential dodge:
In other words, by the plain language of the WPR, the 60-day clock is supposed to be triggered even in the absence of the filing of a “hostilities” report, provided only that one should have been filed (as in the case of Libya, or, as the WPR’s purpose contemplated, in any emergency defensive use of force undertaken before Congress could act). A report is also required in two lesser situations than an actual use of force – two situations which do not trigger a 60-day clock.
But Presidents – in bad faith, as Glennon says – have repeatedly refused to specify which of the three sorts of ‘situational’ report they’re filing (by citing to the overall section, instead of to the specific subsection, for example), when they pretend to “comply” at all by filing a report under the requisite section of the WPR. Thus, even when they’ve filed a report (without citing to the 60-day trigger subsection), they can sit tight, daring Congress to do something meaningful to enforce the 60-day limit, in the case of actual hostilities, when those 60 days are up… Which is one predictable result – one that the advice quoted at the close of the diary is intended to highlight and remedy – of letting unchecked modern Presidents irretrievably act before receiving formal Congressional authorization to do so.
The brief quote from Rep. Brad Sherman in the Charlie Savage post linked in the diary is a reference to this situation: The administration indeed filed a report within 48 hours, but won’t concede that the 60-day clock has thus been triggered, either by the report itself, or by the obvious hostilities which alone should have triggered the clock, under the WPR. Thus, Secretary Clinton plays dodgeball with Rep. Sherman and others, and won’t give a straight answer to his questions. As a result of many such underhanded power plays by different Presidents, the Congress has inadvertently set itself up to fail with this version of the WPR, it’s pretty clear, and the only question that remains is what, if anything, Congress is going to do about it. [Which, I hope, is Jim Cooper's point and, further, that he plans to act on his own advice.]
With regard to the 3/31 SASC hearing:
The exchanges you highlight (and helpfully quote – quite clearly, despite the blockquote confusion) are indeed telling. Jim Webb unfortunately has lots of company in the “worshipful” department on that committee, when it comes to the military Brass (he’s probably one of the more constrained in that department, in fact), but thankfully many of them seemed to have toned it down a bit in the 3/31 hearing (whereas the Navy “posture hearing” on 3/8 had committee members practically throwing themselves at the feet of the witnesses).
The non-binding resolution that Gates brought up (after Lawrence O’Donnell had used it, in an ugly segment on MSNBC, to hit Rand Paul repeatedly over the head with it – from a distance, without Paul present to rebut his charges – and to claim that Paul was “lying” about Congress not debating the Libya attack because of it) is the same one that Jeff Sessions references in the excerpt in the diary. It’s S. Res. 85, sponsored by Senator Menendez, and as far as I can tell, there was no public debate in the Senate about it, before it was offered for immediate, unanimous consent passage (by Chuck Schumer, on behalf of Harry Reid) the same day it was introduced.
If I’m remembering right, Susan Collins flatly stated that she wouldn’t approve the use of ground troops in Libya (as did others on the panel), but I don’t recall her explicitly stating that she would have voted against authorization to bomb from the air. She did, however, laudably counter Lindsey Graham’s claims that there was no need for approval from Congress before Obama acted, which her vote to support Rand Paul’s Sense of the Senate effort today commendably reinforced.
As explained further below, I belatedly discovered that this UCAgreement deal came about after Rand Paul and his Constitutional “nuisance” language had been cleared out of the way by his corrupt Senate elders (but only after Rand Paul had arranged for a revealing roll-call vote trail to be left behind on the public record).
Shameful. Thank you for keeping us apprised.
Apparently we’re conducting a secret war in Africa too.
Locked in a box to be never let out, again. Both parties are the same. Support the groups within that work towards similar goals.
anti-war
end the drug war
anti-patriot act
corporatism
The parties of war united today!
So this is how the United States Senate dealt with the profound and fundamental Constitutional question raised by Rand Paul’s motion, starting at about 2:50 p.m. Tuesday afternoon, 4/5/11 (when, under a unanimous consent agreement made just before the Senate recessed at 1:00 p.m., the Majority Leader was recognized for an unspecified purpose):
I agree with what you say for the most part but my caveat would be that “conservatives” (if taken to mean the current GOP congressional lineup) are actually trying to “starve the beast.” Cutting $ 6 trillion from the budget, shutting down the government, destroying social security, medicare and leaving nothing but funding for imperial military adventures leaves little difference in my mind between the worst of the libertarian creed and the reality of the GOP’s? Between Barack, Boner, and the Pauls, I’m still leaning to the latter.
oh yeah?
I think that skfrogs was perhaps referring more to zenostoa’s “argument” as a “partisan distraction,” not to yours, arctor.
Your mature take on the situation – supporting and opposing positions and policies, regardless of their sponsor(s), rather than casting everyone as a monolithic Good or Evil Person – seems to be one with which skfrogs agrees. At any rate, I know that I agree with that approach, and that I am capable of condemning a Senator’s position on one matter, even as I’m praising their position on another. [Though most Members of Congress can't or won't make that sort of distinction anymore, it appears - the Parties rule the Congress, and the partisans unquestioningly obey, their own independent judgement be damned.]
A lot of people (too many of them federal politicians) seem to feel a need to “belong,” or to passionately identify with, a self-styled exclusive, or superior, club, in or out of politics (“The Pauls,” for example, or even “The Progressives,” as well as “The Republicans” and “The Democrats”), in order to build up their own self-esteem or self-worth – which takes precedence for them over thoughtful independent thinking about the issues of the day and the individual merits of an issue, and helps lead to ceaseless rounds of bickering and name-calling about the pros (featuring unearned praise and support for fellow “members”) and cons (featuring knee-jerk mocking of “inferior/deranged/unworthy” non-members) of the personalities involved.
I’ve now viewed the C-SPAN tape of the Senate’s Ten-Minute Libya Debate on Tuesday, and can confirm that Carl Levin did not come to the floor to make his brief statement opposing Rand Paul’s motion to commit with instructions. Instead, the Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman merely inserted his (straw-grasping, duty-ducking) opinion into the record in silence (although the fact that the statement was not read aloud on the floor is not made clear in the Congressional Record).
The pre-planned execution of Rand Paul’s motion to commit officially began at 2:44 p.m. Eastern time on Tuesday, 4/5 (just after Harry Reid had finished a news conference in the hall about the latest backroom budget business), with the vote on Senator Reid’s motion to table Senator Paul’s motion to commit commencing at 2:55 p.m. Jim Webb (contrary to the Congressional Record, which lists Al Franken in the Chair) was the presiding officer in the Senate for the Ten-Minute Debate, which can be viewed starting at the 27:30 mark of this C-SPAN floor proceedings excerpt.
In addition to essentially asserting that the Senate is responsible for protecting the reputations of past presidents who’ve usurped the plenary authority of Congress to commit the nation to war, Carl Levin’s claimed excuse for his desire to table the Paul motion, without condescending to say as much in person on the floor Tuesday, is this:
Word games, much, Senator Levin? Where was your alternative, non-binding Sense of the Senate amendment, containing your preferred word choice on this serious Constitutional question? [And did you convey this sentiment about Candidate Obama's war powers assertion to him at the time, publicly or privately, when he said what he said (that is, when, on the public campaign trail, Obama used the exact language of Senator Paul's proposed amendment, to which you now object)? If not, why not?]
As it happens, I disagree with the precise language of the Obama statement used by Senator Paul, because I think it leaves too much wiggle room for continuing bad faith interpretations by Executive Branch lawyers (specifically, “stopping an actual or imminent threat” is too vague and thus too easy to evade, as we’ve learned the hard way). I prefer the language of the War Powers Resolution, in Section 2(c), with regard to “national emergency created by attack” over the “stopping…imminent threat” language. And, if Carl Levin’s statement is truthful, he should prefer the War Powers Resolution language too, because under that formulation “completed attacks” may be responded to on an emergency basis by presidents without Congressional permission.
Given Levin’s stated, claimed concerns about the language at issue, in my opinion Senator Paul ought to give as good as he got. If Carl Levin is going to pretend that Candidate Obama didn’t word his statement with the proper precision, even as Levin couldn’t be bothered to offer a slight modification of Obama’s/Paul’s language to address his alleged concerns, then Senator Paul ought to do it for him.
Senator Paul ought to offer another (preferably, binding) measure that makes clear that the President may respond to the “completed attack” that Carl Levin specifies, on an emergency basis, when Congress cannot convene, in place of Obama’s “imminent threat” language. Call Levin’s bluff, in other words, and get this discussion out in public on the Senate floor where it belongs.
Senator Paul might even have a powerful, if reluctant, ally in such a second effort. For some reason, Minority Leader McConnell felt the need, just after Paul’s motion had been tabled, to say this on the floor Tuesday afternoon (although I think McConnell is referencing only approving resolutions, while trying to reduce the bad impression clearly left by the Senate’s absurdly-inadequate 10-minute debate, and evasion of a vote on the merits, of this topical and important Constitutional question):
As for Levin’s citation of the obvious and deplorable fact that “Numerous Presidential decisions to order the use of military force over the last 30 years would not meet the standard of the Paul amendment,” which Levin apparently considers a good reason for the Senate to continue to help merge in one man the Constitution’s deliberately-separated war powers, Bruce Fein, in a long bill of particulars he’s compiled condemning President Obama’s attack on Libya, helps expose that argument’s unstated and insidious premise (that repetition of unConstitutional acts can somehow silently amend the Constitution):
I agree and apologize for “messing” with skfrogs, it was just a knee-jerk reaction to what was probably not meant to be a “DKOSian-like” response to my point. This was a very serious and well wrought diary on another issue of great import. At the end of the day, who is President will still matter (in principle, if not in fact) and I do not believe we can continue to disdain Obama’s “betrayels” without seriously wanting to defeat him in 2012. And if that takes a Paul to do, I just might hold my nose on the other issues.
Section 1543(a)(1) is the “hostilities” report that Michael Glennon references – the circumstances connected with that “(a)(1)” report trigger the 60-day clock [per Section 1544(b): "Within sixty calendar days after a report is submitted or is required to be submitted pursuant to section 1543 (a)(1) of this title, whichever is earlier, the President shall terminate any use of United States Armed Forces with respect to which such report was submitted (or required to be submitted), unless the Congress [approves/extends/can't meet]…”]. The other two required reports are separately listed in Section 1543(a)(2) and Section 1543(a)(3), neither of which triggers a 60-day clock:
Compare that WPR reporting language to the language used by President Obama in the March 21, 2011 letter that he sent to the House and Senate to allow people like Dick Durbin to pretend that the President “complied” with the War Powers Resolution – a presidential letter in which no specific section of the War Powers Resolution is cited at all, and in which only a single reference to the WPR itself is made, in the second-to-last sentence, as follows:
This is clearly a case – contrary to Carl Levin’s claims to the reporters querying him on 3/31, and despite the president’s intentional failure to cite that, or any, section – where, even if the underlying military action was in compliance with the WPR (because action of an emergency defensive nature, which the Libyan attacks are not), a report under the WPR “is required to be submitted pursuant to section 1543 (a)(1),” and therefore the 60-day clock before the cessation of hostilities has been triggered, and only formal Congressional action can waive it. At minimum, everyone in Congress ought to be acting on that assumption, no matter what evasions Secretary Clinton and Gates have engaged in to avoid admitting that fact in classified briefings with our representatives.
As for President Obama’s repeated references in his 3/21 letter to the “authorization” of the United Nations Security Council for the military attacks he ordered – as opposed to the mere “support” of Congress he imperiously references – Michael Glennon explains why no such UNSC treaty “authority” can end-run the plenary war powers exercised under the Constitution by both the House and Senate:
For anyone interested, this is the link for the referenced Unanimous Consent Agreement reached late Tuesday, listing the amendments to S. 493 that the Parties decided would be allowed to receive a public vote on the floor of the Senate Wednesday.