We’re watching the wind-up to the vote in the Senate scheduled for 7:00 a.m. this morning. They’ve already had an opening convocation and the Pledge of Allegiance.
Vice-President Joe Biden is the president of the Senate today. Senator Harry Reid has now launched into a frenzy of thanks, spreading around his gratitude to everyone who works in the Senate.
Six minutes and counting…
Sen. Mitch McConnell now at the podium; he says that the problem with the bill is that it doesn’t do what it was supposed to do, lowering costs. If the bill was so great, it wouldn’t have needed votes in the middle of the night and even during a blizzard, or on Christmas Eve. "This fight isn’t over, this fight is far from over." They’re going to continue to fight on behalf of the American people.
Sen. Reid: This bill will reduce the deficit. We’ve had votes in the middle of the night because the Republicans wouldn’t let us. Reid now citing the example of a constituent with preexisting condition, one who will be among those who will give him an earful when he goes home.
Cites Harry Truman’s comments in 1945 in which Truman called for health care to be seen as a national concern; asks that one consider the case of a citizen born in 1945 who has never had affordable health care.
(Ed. note: that would be my mother, who was born in 1940 and who might still be waiting except that she now has Medicare, being 69 years old. Ahem.)
We may not cure this crisis to day, Reid says, but we must start somewhere.
He invokes Ted Kennedy’s quote, "The dream goes on."
Reid chastises political naysayers working against the bill.
We’re now moving to the roll call, a most stimulating obligation on the floor of the Senate. Who’s here for this historic debacle, I mean, vote?
Mr. Lieberman, Mrs. Lincoln are present.
Mr. McCain is not present.
Mr. Nelson of Nebraska is present. So far all Dems present.
There’s some laughter on the floor when Sen. Reid’s name is called, can’t see what has generated the humor other than we can’t hear his response.
Ms. Snowe is not currently present. Uh-oh…does this mean there will be no buffer, a straight party line vote?
We are hearing a lot of No (or not present) when Republican names are called.
Another No for Sen. Sessions.
Very long pause on the floor, a couple of minutes, before the roll call continues with Sen. Sanders’ name, whose Aye is audible.
It’s passed. 60 votes present.
God help us all.
UPDATE: Funnydiva2002 has the actual roll call on the vote below in thread, although the vote was strictly along party lines.
UPDATE #2: President Obama is expected to make a statement about today’s vote at 8:45 a.m., according to C-SPAN.



60 Comments




McCain isn’t present? Maybe he’s meeting with Jane Hamsher?
I see the dinosaur’s blood finally warmed enough to be able to carry Mr. Inhofe in to work.
Alexander no
Barasso no
Bennett(both skipped 1st) bennett of utah no
Bond no
brownback no
bunning out
burr no
chambliss no
coburn no
cochran no
collins no
corker no
cornyn no
crapo no
de mint no
ensign no
enzi no
graham no
grassley no
gregg no
hatch no
hutchison out
inhofe no
isaacson no
johans no
kyle no
lemieux no
lugar no
mc cain no
mc connell no
murkowski no
mr reid of nevada makes some kind of funny
riche no
roberts no
sanders late to the vote aye
sessions skipped 1st, then no
shelbey skipped 1st, then no
snow no
thune no
vitter no
voinovich no
wicker no
60 to 39 passed, strict party line vote.
continuing operations
wow, this is clearly not an important vote, too much chaos, and roll call isn’t repeating back the votes.
edited to add: the mutual admiration is much more important…
Wouldn’t it be funny if they missed voting to continue running the government?
Did i just hear “if any dems voted ‘no’, let me know” come from the floor?
Is there any chance of the public option getting re-instated in conference?
It’s kind of hard to hear much right now.
they’re doing their damndest to do so! they may have a quorum in the room, but no audible responses to the roll call…
Okay, this vote got 60, but did it need 60?
Thanks for the roll call, Funnydiva, updated the post with a link to your comment.
Ugh, I feel like I just attended a death.
I suspect there are two chances, and slim just left town…
but I’m not at my best after my all-nighter!
FWDiva
no, simple majority.
I think they only needed 50 for this one.
And, they’re really reading the roll so fast.
no worries, easy when I was only counting the “no”s! and noting who missed their turn the first time. Where the hell was Sanders?! Honest to Pete!
PS, thanks for live-blogging the inane comments from both “leaders”. I only caught the last 5 mins of Harry the ball-less and didn’t even have the energy to yell at my TeeBee Machine…
Feh. Faugh, even!
FWDiva
So, now it’s all about the conference committee. Until the final, final vote, which can be filibustered. Right?
Yeah, I don’t know if that wasn’t staged to make the Dems squirm.
All it would have taken is for Sanders not to show up and it’d have been a whole new ball game.
[edit: although I don't know if the Republicans would have been ready to deal with a 59-vote by Dems. I doubt they had a filibuster plan prepared, too many not present for the vote. I expect many will point to their Not Voting status as evidence of being on the fence about health care.]
Hopefully, he was hanging his head in shame.
I thought I understood that this was a simple majority vote.
I think you’re right. Ending debate on the conference report requires another cloture vote, iirc.
I wish there was a better word for the faux- pseudo-filibusters that have become the norm. No phone book-reading, no 3am quorum calls…i hope my HS govt teacher is having a field day pointing this difference out to the next generation!
FWDiva
No, simple majority.
Let’s hope all the criticism now works miracles in the reconciliation. I’ll thank Jane in advance if we get a better bill.
Nope, cloture already happened. Only needed 51 votes this morning.
FWDiva
Thank heavens. And although it only needed a majority to pass, I’m glad Sen. Sanders, who was attacked here last night, was the 60th vote.
With this legislation, which will change in conference committee, people now walking around with undiagnosed cancer, high blood pressure, and diabetes will be diagnosed and treated. It will save lives.
With this legislation
- People can’t be banned from insurance because they have pre-existing conditions.
- A major PUBLIC program, Medicaid, will have its biggest expansion since its creation
- Young adults can stay on parents’ plans into their mid-20s
- Tens of thousands will get subsidies to buy insurance that previously they couldn’t afford
- A Patient’s Bill of Rights will be added to the law
- Public health centers will be built
- More health providers will have loan forgiveness for serving underserved communities
- People will have access to a new program for federal long-term care insurance
Any of one these would be BIG. Putting them altogether is HUGE.
No, they didn’t need 60 this morning. Once the filibuster was broken, the bill needed a majority to pass.
Then the only reason I can think of is political necessity — a super-majority which can’t be vetoed by the POTUS.
One of the people working for me (retired 58 yr old) does so just to help pay for her insurance. I’ll lose her if the buy-in is passed. So-be-it. People who have worked all their lives deserve the opportunity to retire w/o the crippling cost of healthcare.
“I’ll thank Jane in advance if we get a better bill.”
As if the House Democrats don’t have their own ideas! What chutzpah!
I know it’s hard to believe this bill could have been worse, but I think without Jane and others leading the charge and all the Firepups and others in the trenches it actually would have been. Or at the very least the lies from the Dem leadership would have gone unnoticed and unremarked.
God help us all…the zillionaire’s club we call the US Senate certainly won’t.
Bunning of KY was the one who missed today’s vote.
increasing debt ceiling vote still very unclear…
Jane wanted to kill the bill. How will she get credit, huh? Myself and others have been saying that the bill isn’t final, things can be added in in conference, and once it’s passed and signed into law, we have years to perfect it. Oh wait, Jane will be working hard to get republicans elected next year to make sure that doesn’t happen!
She gets zero credit. A grade of F-! But hey, her public temper tantrums against the Democrats will make the republican’s campaign videos that much more fun next year so let’s give her an A+ for being consistent and diligent in giving them a ton of ammo!
except a veto is moot at this point. and given the pres’s urgent desire to sign any bill, will probably be moot at the time of the final, final vote.
Plus, it takes 2/3 to in both houses to override a veto. That’s 67 in the Senate…
FWDiva
A super-majority that can’t be vetoed? Huh?
First, Obama is going to sign a bill, not veto it.
Second, it takes two-thirds to overturn a veto and that’s right there in the Constitution. It’s not a Senate rule like the filibuster.
As if a law passed by Democrats only which mandates all adult citizens must buy insurance which does not actually guarantee them health care isn’t enough ammo against the entire Democratic Party.
As if failing to actually increase competition and reduce health care costs isn’t enough ammo against Democratic candidates and incumbents.
No, it’s all Jane’s fault that the entire Democratic Party has drifted away from its own party platform and yielded utterly to health insurance corporations.
OMFG, more self-congratulation from Reid.
Can I tune it out now? Yes, I think I will.
FWDiva
Then find and share the reason for the 60 votes, because I’m not certain why they felt they needed it.
I don’t think I couched my comment in absolute terms, was speculation. Do I need to go and insert *SPECULATION* in that comment?
Thanks, Rayne.
I don’t have the energy for these crap talking-points today.
FWDiva
Does this mean Dems will be the new favored child of the insurance lobby. Follow the money.
No, I think scrolling is going to serve better today. I hope my response didn’t come across as a smackdown…just trying to keep the details straight.
FWDiva
Post vote post up top…
Here’s a crap talking point for ya: YOU DOUCHEBAGGERS NEED TO GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES!
Here’s another one: JANE GETS ZERO CREDIT ON ANYTHING.
I have hankies on hand for those of you who are crying after reading these two points.
“Then find and share the reason for the 60 votes”
Because Democrats have wanted to expand health coverage since Truman so that people don’t unnecessarily die and suffer and this does more than any other law that’s got this far, so they proudly support it.
I’m glad to be able to explain that to you.
get over yourself
Well, they worked hard enough to be the new Most Favored Party! Would be a shame if their efforts were wasted! (spit).
Wow. Why do I feel like we’ve been reading/analyzing/discussing a totally different bill than the Dem Leadership is describing now?!
FWDiva
“three horsemen” what an unfortunate allusion, Senator Schumer.
I think the fundamental problem we are faced with is one we’ve seen here in state-level politics.
The old-school party machine does not understand what it means to be a progressive and true to progressive values; they only understand partisanship. When progressives demand adherence to progressive values, they suffer from cognitive dissonance. It’s impossible for them to see that being progressive does not mean being a Democratic Party adherent.
As much as I dislike Mitch McConnell, what he said this morning was spot on: this bill does not do what it was supposed to do. It does not reduce health care costs. If this bill had addressed rising health care costs, it would have been politically impossible for Republicans not to support it.
McConnell doesn’t address this, because it’s not what he expected of this bill — but Americans still cannot expect health CARE for ALL after this bill.
I’m waiting to see how this jacks up private insurance, because I expect that it will since there is no mechanism to increase or improve competition. 3000 health insurers across the country should be plenty of competition, but the antitrust exemption has prevented this and continues to do so.
They sure seem to grow ‘em self-important Down East, don’t they? For a state that small they sure seem to have a lot of Empresses of The World!
Would that make Lieberman the 4th horseman?
“Why do I feel like we’ve been reading/analyzing/discussing a totally different bill than the Dem Leadership is describing now?!”
Because some folks have done a great job in defining as a terrible bill one which has expanded Medicaid + subsidies + regulations + public health centers + a new federal program of long term care insurance + support for health providers serving underserved communities and done so much more.
The old-school party machine does not understand what it means to be a progressive and true to progressive values; they only understand partisanship.
And folks here? They don’t understand that governing, getting things passed, is really different from declaiming about what should be done. Our system is set up to make things difficult to get done, and that’s even without the dumb-ass Senate rules.
yeah…
it’s the rank hypocrisy of McConnell and Boehner (who has now released a statement) that is so galling. As if they haven’t been salivating for and wouldn’t have grabbed such a chance to stick it to the plebes if they could get away with it.
OK, I gotta catch a few zzzs, if I can.
Merry Xmas and Happy Holidays to all.
FWDiva
I don’t even want to think about it today, but I think we’re gonna need more horses to get everyone mounted up for that ride…
Merry Xmas, Twolf!
FWDiva
Perfect example of defining the bill from a particular lens.
No mention of the mandates, collections by IRS, lack of competition, lack of real cost controls for starters…
Mandates are critical. Mass. has them and 98% coverage. And half the bill involves cost controls – half!!
Hi Kay
Wonder what kind of campaign contributions the senators got for voting yes. Since quite a few won’t be re elected.I am psychic. See a republican take over of the Senate in 2010. Does it make any difference?
Unfortunately those are some that think Oh Bummah! walks on water, can do no wrong, and is the leading us to the holy grail of change. Regretfully he is not the agent of change rather he is the commission agent for InsurPharma and the financial lobby.
This ridiculous bill is his product, he owns it and he is selling us down the river and while he, and a few precious few sycophants, still believe that he is the reincarnation of Jesus the rest of us need waders to get around in all the bullcrap he is promoting.
Mandates only work to control costs if there is an alternative to the private insurance companies. Now, with this Insurance Protection Act, there are no alternatives to private insurance so they will raise prices to a fare thee well and the “fines” for not buying their bullshit will therefor go higher leaving many more millions unable to afford health care.
Orahma=Failx10… How can he force the poor to buy this POS or fine them??? That is not democracy.
I’ve always said Hillary would have been tougher!
Just listened the one thing that jumped out at me is how Reid repeated several times that he was going to hear an “earful” when he gets home. That “earful” he projected would be all positive.
Bet Jane is planning to give Reid and “earful”
They were also trying to spin the deep and well founded concerns about this legislation by progressives as “negative” I am interested in the language they choose to use. “Negative” instead of just, based on facts, and lots of action LEGITIMATE CONCERNS
This legislation is a disaster. Corporate whore Dems in the Senate just handed the government to the Repubs by 2012. They’ll campaign on repealing this monstrosity, and they’ll win, unless Dems grow a pair and realize that “reforming” this (with the mandate) will involve nothing less than serious public competition for private insurers. It’s so depressing so see so many people start to resignedly fall into line, like good, timid little party hacks.
And wait till you see that we are correct once again! Can’t wait.