It’s been more than 30 days since the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded and the well nearly a mile below on the sea floor began to erupt oil and methane, killing 11 of our fellow citizens and injuring even more both immediately and in the continuing damage which followed.
And nothing has happened of any consequence since then.
Oh, we’ve had a Category 5 hurricane of hot air, some decent questions from Congressional hearings, but zippo-zilch-nada in the way of an effective solution. (I pity the people of the Gulf who had to deal with another hurricane they couldn’t escape.)
We had a big metal box set over the leak, not to stop it but to try to capture the oil. Anybody with the wherewithal to Google could predict this was going to fail because of the hydrates. They crystallize on contact with a solid surface in deepwaters below the average depth of the Continental Shelf.
And then we’ve had a tiny little pipsqueak of a hose nosed into the well pipe, which might as well have been a toothpick stuck in our mouths.
Now the White House is having a hissy behind closed doors with the media because dammitall, they can’t stop asking questions about the spill. Oh that’ll work, that’ll make a difference; the biggest environmental disaster our country has experienced will go away if only the media shuts up about it.
Screw that. This has been nothing but a corporate-induced environmental and socio-biological experiment perpetuated on our commons without our consent, and the American public doesn’t take well to experimentation without debate in advance. Witness our slow-moving policy on stem cell research, for example. We don’t frigging like it.
And screw the White House for its insistence that the Fourth Estate stop pestering them and begone. The people have been demanding accountability through our elected representatives in the legislature, but it’s like maneuvering a massive battleship, one that is intended for the making of laws and not their execution.
But it’s the Executive Branch which is charged with the faithful execution of our laws, and it’s failing to do so. It has not done a competent job of communicating with the public or the media would not be hammering on them as they are for more information — and for once, the media is actually doing what we need of them, not what their corporate lords and masters expect.
Instead of scolding the press, the White House should be asking itself why it’s being pestered. Why has "oil spill" remained a trending topic among internet searches across various outlets for more than a month?
It’s because we want ACTION, not more words. We want the damned well capped and we want it capped yesterday, and no, we don’t want to leave this to a negligent corporation which has consistently failed to act in good faith. We want the Executives we elected to office to execute. Do something, for god’s sake.
I’ve had a list of action items for a while now, in fact, if the White House cannot find actionable items of their own. You know that popular site, Getting Things Done? Yeah, well you can call this Get Sh*t Done Now. Here’s my GSDN list as it is right now which I gladly submit for the White House’s immediate consideration and implementation:
1) Obama needs to use that goddamned unitary executive power he’s been clinging to and declare a state of emergency in federal waters along the Gulf of Mexico, using an Executive Order. This is now an international situation, not just an American one, because the oil will eventually end up in the North Atlantic.
2) Declare British Petroleum in violation of its lease and kick them off the site. Threaten to seize all American assets of BP-America immediately if they do not assist in setting up a claims system which will be administered and overseen by the U.S. and paid by BP. (Hire all those poor Sallie Mae folks who were going to lose their jobs because of student loan reform for this purpose. /snark)
3) Ask the Department of Energy’s Steve Chu to create a skunkworks rapid solutions team from NASA and DARPA along with schools which specialize in oceanography, mechanical technology, geology, and computer modeling. Stop waiting for the nice old farts they pulled from JASON because this is an emergency, goddamnitall, we don’t have time for them to come up with a vetted, peer-reviewed whitepaper on this. Don’t listen to anybody’s crap about so-called experts on deepwater drilling and how they’ll solve the problem. As my 16-year-old said, "If there’s experts, where are they? Show me one." Yeah. What she said.
4) Threaten to kick Ken Salazar to the curb if he doesn’t not immediately have every one of the 15+ deepwater offshore drilling sites reevaluated; every evaluation must be on POTUS desk inside 15 days from the date the Executive Order. And we want the evaluations made public — no more of this bullshit opacity the White House calls transparency. No excuses; all this stuff should have been submitted when BP and the other oil industry firms applied for the leases to begin with.
5) Approach corporations to develop an X-Prize type program to develop a private solution in tandem with the skunkworks solution. Ask Congress to create a special R&D tax credit for firms which donate money to the X-Prize for development.
6) Approach Florida State University (which now owns the former Scripps’ Harbor Branch Oceanographic Institute and its submersibles) along with Mississippi State (which has an oceanography program) and ask them to work with NIUST to develop models of the plume’s distribution, along with identifying the impact short and long-term on the ocean bottom and the ecosystem above it.
7) Suck up the arrogance and pride and ask the elder statesman of the environment to be the face of this effort. Ask Al Gore to do the legwork with the corporations and educational facilities whose cooperation is needed. Tell him this is to be used as an example of what people can do for the larger environment if they focus on this problem first. If they can solve this, they can solve the big problems.
8) Tell the Catfood Commission (read: Presidential Deficit Commission) to find a way to shoehorn in funding for an alternative energy Apollo Program or Marshall Plan. If you have to find a front man, go to Al Gore because this was his idea back in 1992. Jeebus, catch a clue and use the resources you have already; Gore wrote it all out for you in 1992.
9) Call that lazy-assed sad-sack Joe Lieberman and tell him whatever super-secret-y deal you guys have going in the way of a quid pro quo is off if Lieberman cannot find some reason to investigate the relationships between Department of Interior and any corporation with which it deals. Make the call private, and tell him if he doesn’t have hearings within 15 days you are going to publicly call him on the carpet for the benefit of CT voters every chance you get until 2012.
10) You know damned well if they cut corners in the Gulf of Mexico, they did it elsewhere. Threaten to go for the jugular on them if they don’t continue to play ball with clean-up in the Gulf.Take a bunch of bloggers up to BP’s operations in Alaska and let them roam around for a couple weeks. Make BP pay for it — figure it out, you have the EO in one hand and the power to print money in the other. Keep the pressure on BP until they beg for mercy.
11) And right now I’m tempted to tell one Barack Obama to get really, genuinely excitedly-upset, be more than that Spock character for once, add the passion of Captain Kirk and the anger of Dr. McCoy in the mix. That fakery last week only made us heave with nausea. And Rahm? Just bite me; whatever counsel you’ve offered Mr. Spock-the-President has been both incompetent and impotent.
If I could sit and stew a while longer on this and not elevate my blood pressure, I could come up with a lot more. But I’m sure you have more ideas of your own. What do you want to tell this White House to do about the spill? Be specific, stick to workable suggestions — this is not an invitation to a flame war. Give the Executive Branch plenty of reasons to do something instead of nothing but flogging the media.




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Super recommended.
Ditto. I’ve been waiting for a checklist like this. Obama doesn’t seem to be taking this seriously. I mean, appoint a commission to study it??!!! It’s on ongoing catastrophe that is wiping out the livelihood of the entire Gulf fishing/seafood industry, a big chuck of tourism on the Gulf, destroying an already endangered ecosystem.
And he’s appointing a commission??? What good will that do, other than attempt to whitewash what has happened when it gets around to issuing a report.
Appoint a team of top scientists under Chu and go down there and
a. document the atrocity so that scientists will have data to study
b. do whatever is possible to get submersibles that exist into the Gulf
c. take control of the situation over BP.
d. sue BP’s ass
plus everything Rayne said.
x2
Oh yeah, number 12: Implement a moratorium on all further deepwater offshore drilling in federal waters until an improved safety standard based on northern EU/Nordic countries’ standards and best practices has been developed. When the moratorium is lifted, demand adherence to that stiffer standard.
Obviously the stiffer safety standards don’t deter deepwater drilling.
Great ideas, Rayne. A righteous rant for sure.
Rayne – Thanks, Love It.
Going to add it to my short list and send it off to my Senators in the morning along with the URL.
RAYNE KICKS SOME EXECUTIVE ASS. oh thank you, woman.
Number 13: Do not encourage the president to uphold unitary executive. It’s not allowed under the Constitution. It would enable a president to authorize offshore drilling on a whim — that is to say, what president Obama intends to do, anyway.
Yeah, right. He’s already upholding the unitary executive power with torture, the use of drones, the list goes on. But he won’t use what’s really a plain old vanilla use of the power of the executive to declare an emergency?
Gimme a break.
Great, great post!
Was checking out the West Wing Twitter and sure looks like Obama isn’t gonna do a damn thing. In fact it confirms what my guts’s been saying all along, that he’s trying to hide it from the public to cover up for BP.
There’s no way the Coast Guard was protecting BP unless it came from the the president. Well, it’s going to be pretty tough when it literally starts raining oil in Florida. Scary that this man is in just going to stand back and watch this gusher bleed out for months, possibly destroying the eastern coastline of this country and sickening millions of Americans, not to mention the serious long term death of all life in the GOM.
A reporter asked Gibbs why don’t they order BP to do more, and his response was “they’re a private company.” These people are freaking batshit. Right, a private company that Obama’s Interior Department gave the waiver that allowed this disaster to happen so get off your asses and take responsibility. There’s no running away from this monster.
Guess now we know why BP told the EPA to f__k off about switching from Corexit. It was only a request, not an order.
Finally, the lastest stalling move till the relirf well is finished,
is the new plan of action they say they’re undertaking to stop the volcano could take up to ten days to actually stop the flow, and that’s if it works.
Stalling, lying, obfuscating, misleading, denying, covering up, poisoning, killing, destroying a chunk of this country, the water, the wildlife, the landsccape, and fellow countrymen. Obama and BP together. That’s quite a legacy.
Gallows humor at link.
http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/lk0519d-500.jpg
Here’s some action. Louisiana Sinn Féin!
Jefferson Parish Commandeers BP-Hired Boats
“The Jefferson Parish Sheriff’s Office will escort the boats to the Bays, where Councilman Roberts said they should have been for days.”
It has gotten to the point where the sound of Obama’s voice makes my skin crawl. I am Very Sad about that, because my vote for him meant something to me for the first time in 30 years, because Bush had made me punch drunk, because Obama is One’n'Done and we are good and truly forked.
Thanks for this great post.
Editilla~New Orleans Ladder
Thanks for the link. Unfucking believable. Unimaginable and Unconscionable.
With Oil flowing into the Marshes and the BP Hired Boats idling Behind the Islands, It Has To Be Deliberate.
“It has gotten to the point where the sound of Obama’s voice makes my skin crawl.”
That happened to me when he voted for FISA, I haven’t been able to listen to him since.
Exactly, how I feel. In fact, I have some of the same feelings associated with a person who’s been raped– “how did I let this happen?” “I’m so stupid!” “I deserved it for trusting him.” Of course, this thing with Obama is not the horror of a physical rape, but it has been an emotional one for many progressives who will find impossible to trust any politician ever again.
Great site!
I saw this clip and I though Robert Gibbs was trying out a new Rand Paul imitation.
“A reporter asked Gibbs why don’t they order BP to do more, and his response was “they’re a private company.”
“I saw this clip and I though Robert Gibbs was trying out a new Rand Paul imitation.”
Great point.
Someone should have followed up with a question to Gibbs to see if he believes the Civil Rights Act of 1964 should have had an exemption for private companies so they could continue discriminating against American citizens. Racism befouls our society like a toxic oil spill befouls our waters, but certain people seem to believe that private companies can do whatever they want, acting as a law unto themselves, with our democratically-elected government hogtied and impotent to stop abuses before or prosecute after the fact. Racism is as much a man-made disaster as a BP/Transocean/Halliburton oil rig blowout in the Gulf of Mexico (or anywhere) is a man-made disaster.
And Rayne’s rant is right on the mark. Either the Obama administration is part of the problem (along with all the Republicans as well as BP, Transocean, Halliburton) or they are part of the solution. And Gibbs response seems to indicate which direction the Obama administration is leaning, toward criminally-negligent Fortune 500 companies over the livelihood of mom-and-pop companies all along the Gulf of Mexico and Atlantic coasts. We saw more than enough of this insane conservative corporatist crap during the criminal and corrupt Bush/Cheney years.
The White House is not in denial. Obama and his minions simply don’t give a shit. It’s his arrogance and ego mania on display.
A little over a month ago I met someone who knew Obama personally, knew him from Illinois politics. It’s not arrogance or ego; it’s a kind of blindness which comes from excessive analysis and equally excessive pragmatism, the kind that is absolutely not necessary in these situations. It is what it is on the face of it, not at the bottom of a pile of data and the middle of parties’ positions, and he doesn’t get that.
There’s a form of arrogance he’s absolutely failed to adopt, the kind we can see in the Presidential character in the Sorkin movie, The American President. He’s failed to do his job because he was too busy keeping his job, and he fails to recognize it the way Sorkin’s President does by getting a spine and resolutely staking out a position in the best interests of the people as our American president.
Interesting. Paralysis by analysis, which you seem to be implying, does not jive when one looks at his actions and appointments thus far.
I chalk it up to he is a Corporatist, even better than Bush. Certainly much smoother. If he isn’t, then he appears to be a coward. I can understand that, if he wants to confront the “owners” you are talking trillions at stake and influence over mankind’s direction, basically. He may be too fearful, but regardless, I dod not vote for he cowardly lion or a DLC Corporatist who often outdoes Republicans when it comes to business.
Need to keep in mind it’s not just Obama who is paralytic. Look at how many initiatives are believed to have been squelched by his chief of staff for purely political reasons — like immigration reform. Rahm is alleged to have put the kibosh on this reform because it would be bad in an election year. And now Arizona’s moronic laws will go unanswered for this reason.
Yet a year from now we could have a more Republican Congress, and what will happen to immigration reform then? It will still be bottlednecked because the White House would be unable to make anything constructive happen.
You can imagine the same damned argument happening now about offshore drilling which happened about health care; the White House sold out to PhRMA in order to prevent PhRMA from going nuclear with anti-Dem ads. Imagine the chief of staff and political advisors counseling letting BP take the lead because having BP run anti-Dem ads in retaliation would hurt. This is the process of corporate capture of the White House at work.
The only way out of these kinds of scenarios is utter and complete disclosure, absolute transparency.
Obama has set far too much faith in a handful of individuals, in some ways replicating the bubble that Bush had around him. Unless he breaks the bubble and escapes from capture, he owns this and he’s going be a one-term president.
The problem is not that Obama is captured. The problem is he believes this stuff. We are not looking at a bug but a feature.
As for Obama being a one term President, I said this in the first couple months of his Presidency based on his personnel and policy choices, and the holy hell and outrage I caught at the time. Now the idea is so accepted it doesn’t even elicit a response, well except from me. lol
Hugh, be honest; you didn’t care for Obama from the get-go. Many of rest of us on the left were neutral because we had no horse in the race; think about the offerings we had, whether any of them would have done much differently once in office (and once captured). Obama has earned over time enmity of us who were neutral on the left. He could earn his way out, too, but that’s the essential conflict: will he ever do so, or will he continue to let political machinations to play to Republican moderates and Democratic centrists guide his deeds?
It’s not looking good. For you, it never looked good and is essentially hopeless.
Actually I did quite a bit of defending Obama against Hillary supporters from about January 2008 to July 2008. Clinton was a sure disaster. Obama we knew was no progressive but there was the possibility of working with him. But in July 2008 when Obama went out of his way to swing support behind the FISA Amendments Act (an early instance of his sucking up to corporations) and reneged on his pledge to filibuster the bill if it contained immunity for them, that is when I broke with him. It was also at that point that I began to call for the formation of a progressive party. I was told the first order of business was to defeat McCain but afterwards it would be time to talk about a new party.
Well Obama has proved worse than even I thought back then. My expectations of his gestures to the left went from some, to a few, to none. Now this process was fairly well completed for me by the first few months of Obama’s Presidency. Maybe that seems like the get-go to you but that’s the way it happened. And a progressive party? It would have been nice and we might be a lot further along if that conversation had begun shortly after the election of November 2008.
We started that conversation way back in November of 2004, and the work was well underway with taking back Democratic Party with Howard Dean’s election to the chairmanship of the DNC. Unfortunately, we now realize the party needs its charter re-written in such a way that its mission is not run by the White House once a Democratic president takes office.
If we can disconnect the party from the White House AND return to the work we were doing before those fuckwits Tim Kaine and Rahm Emanuel co-opted the party, we might stand a chance at having a progressive party.
Otherwise we’re going to be stuck like UK’s Liberal Dems, merely being a spoiler.
Quote “If we can disconnect the party from the White House AND return to the work we were doing before those fuckwits Tim Kaine and Rahm Emanuel co-opted the party, we might stand a chance at having a progressive party.”
This is where the rubber meets the road. They (banks/corporations and our current government/congress) will never let this “dream” happen.
Who currently in the senate do you trust? How many more need to be elected before progressives have enough clout to actually accomplish anything? How many years will it take to achieve that number? Is it even feasible ? (you already know my answer)
It’s going to take a lifetime. Period. Doesn’t matter how many are in the Senate now that I trust, we don’t even have a solid pipeline of replacements let alone enough to increase their numbers.
We’re pretty spoiled; the founding fathers knew they were in a fight for their lives, knew that signing the Declaration of Independence was essentially signing their death warrants. We, on the other hand, can’t be bothered with doing the work of democracy with any regularity, can’t be inconvenienced with interrupting their American Idol or Lost or Survivor or sporting event for something like democracy.
That’s why corporations have a lock on our country, because they do their work every day, 7/24/365.
But right now, we need to force the people we have to do the right thing. We’re going to have to multi-task. What should this administration do right now, and how do we get them to do it?
and the Founding Fathers also knew they would likely have to shed the blood of their foes.
The system will collapse under the weight of it’s own corruption before that happens.
I could have written word for word your Obama transitions. Including when you started to pull away and why, and seeing the light after a few months in office. His Telecom Immmunity vote was an ominous sign and I’m so sick of settling for these corporate shills he turned me off right then.
When he supported TARP, I was done. He showed me all I neede to know about him. Liar and phoney. I didn’t vote for him.
Nevertheless, he had to be better than Bush.
Man, was I wrong.
He’s Cheney on steroids without any affect.
Hugh, your wet-blanketism is toxic, and it depresses people, and it makes people not want to throw their money away on things that don’t work.
/sarcasm
Yep, I’d only stipulate Obama owned it all, and lost MY support, the day he announced his staff and cabinet picks.
I waffled for a few months, my comments are there I can’t deny them.
I have buyer’s remorse . . and still, McCain/Palin . . .
Bitter? Me?
Yeah, I kept thinking over the last few weeks that, for once, I wish that I could hand Obama his bundled “ten letters a night to read” – letters from the public that some hack prepares for him.
I’d hand snippets of the story I am getting over the intertubes. The story that doesn’t seem to have reached him yet.
No excuse for him to surround himself with corporate hacks amd expect to actually be funneled anything resembling the truth.
Fuck his bubble. Fuck his self-isolation. Obama knows exactly what is going on. What PriscillaQOB May 23rd, 2010 at 10:40 am said.
Amen.
We are arrogant and stupid and with the Texas school book anti intellectualism still heading in that direction. In your list I miss seeing bring the best minds in the oil extraction business ,world wide enemy and foe.
If this is Mother Earth’s mortal wound, we could put aside our differences to work together for once. The spill doesn’t stop at our shore.
If we avoid the threat of extinction the assembled group should then study the effects of extracting the last drop of oil in the earth on the functioning of the internal systems of the earth that support life here.
Thanks Rayne I know you know this is the big one.
It’s not an accident that Texas is home to the Oil industry and a school system policy of arrogance and ignorance.
‘Stick; absolutely! Good call. If you can re-write history, there aint much you can’t do.
Except! No school-book commission can correct what’s happening in the Gulf of Mexico. And the size and scope of this turd in Obama’s and Big Oil’s corporate punchbowl, is going to be awfully tough to hide.
Notice the date at the end of the Safety Data Report for Corexit.
WTF do they think we are?
The hubris of all involved is breathtaking.
Corexit_EC9527A_MSDS.539295.pdf
Connects the dots. Well constructed overview and sum up Rayne.
One gets the impression this Obama WH is at the intersection with the lights going from green to yellow to red over and over regarding this BP wrought natural,social,political and economic disaster. Just sits there.
Incredible. Very dumb politics.Very dangerous failure of governance.
Here we see in plain view the Democrats failing to do what they beat up Junior Bush up over and over regarding his detached Katrina non response.
Dumb meet Dumber.
Barack Obama is in the classic Roadrunner/Coyote spot of having just ran out over the cliffs edge ( the coyotes role )and facing a long fall with some heavy object to follow.
Rayne gets the urgency and dire requirement to engage here spot on.
This is a December 7 or September 11 moment. Obama’s reaction? Pathetic.
You know what worries me? It’s not just that the White House has been captured by the oligarchy which really runs this country (witness BP telling our EPA that they’ll use whatever dispersant they want, in spite of instructions to use something else).
It’s that if they — Obama and the powers which run him like a puppet — can’t get this right, what are they going to do next to us? What else will they screw up because of their obsessive faith in the free market?
Either Obama sheds the grasp of the oligarchy and takes action, or we can view this as yet another very ugly and painful step away from the democracy we used to have.
Rayne, as awful as this is, I think that it’s going to be a wake-up call for a lot of americans about the extent to which the corporations have taken over our government. I’m as certain as I am of sitting her typing, that Obama and Big Oil are sweating bullets about the building anger and frustration over this, and for them, it’s only going to get worse.
Could it happen to a nicer partnership? Not for my 2c.
A great article! Thanks for writing it!
Sorry about the faulty link.
Here you go.
Safety Data Sheet for both types of dispersents being applied .
Something very disturbing to me is the date for the 9527A is 5/11/2010.
Someone making a few revisions, perhaps?
http://www.piersystem.com/posted/2931/Corexit_EC9527A_MSDS.539295.pdf
http://lmrk.org/corexit_9500_uscueg.539287.pdf
The date is less important than any changes to the content of the documents.
It’s not out of line to have an MSDS with what appears to be an older date since the chemical hasn’t changed and handling may not have changed, either. Gasoline, for example, hasn’t changed in 5 years; I’d expect to see the same handling instructions on it now that I saw 5 years ago.
But did the handling instructions change? and did Nalco disclose any more info about the composition of Corexit? there was no info on earlier MSDS I saw, having been labeled proprietary information.
Well,yes. Exactly. Guess I wasn’t clear on that point.
The only reason I pointed to the date was for the reason you say.
Data from the 9527 had to be published years ago since the product’s been out for a few years. Did they make revisions to downgrade the hazards after they began pouring this shit into the Gulf?
The Corexit 9500 report is dated a few years ago. Why not the 9527?
Sure wish we could see the data from say even a year ago.
I’m gonna check around and see what I can dig up.
Good reality-based list. Add to that:
14. Deny permits to Shell to conduct exploratory drilling in the Beaufort and Chukchi seas (Alaska’s North Slope) beginning July 1.
15. Order immediate inspection of all rigs in Alaska by federal officials — the recent order let the Alaska oil companies do their own self-inspections.
Good thread, Rayne.
And a good link about Obama trying to cover his and BP’s collective ass by jawboning reporters to try to make them stop asking uncomfortable questions about this disaster.
As I’ve been saying, the “cleanup” effort is going to be focusing at least as much on managing the truth about the catastrophe, as about stopping the gusher, itself.
We’re in for a hell of a media war, as Obama and BP try to control the science about the extent and effects of this misery, so that they can try to blunt the firestorm that’s steadily building.
In fact, at this point, I’d say that Obama’s political life, and the future of offshore oil drilling depend on their being able to do that.
It’s going to be tough. There is a large and growing contingent of coastal biologists and oceanographers and academically-based scientists who I’m betting won’t be for sale, and they are starting to speak freely to their coastal communities and to the media. Shutting them up is going to be a hell of a job, Barack.
I’ll posit that NOAA is going to come out of this looking like some kind of
Brownshirt government agency, beating university labs over the head and wielding grants and research money like so many cattle prods, to try to stifle independent news about the disaster.
Sure shaping up to look that way . . . . but all fed agencies, all apppointees, and all elected offals are circumspect.
We know this, right? And we get it drilled into us when shit fucks up.
Crooked, corrupted, top to bottom.
It’s not new news anymore, we’ve long passed it.
We don’t need a disaster anymore to tell us they are crooked, we KNOW it.
So, now, WHAT THE Phook Do We Do To Change It?
I for one, and tired of exposee after exposee . . . . when and how does it get effing changed?
The WH is not in denial & doesn’t give a ff what the public wants. The WH is in full protect-the-oil-campaign-contributor mode.
All true and well-put, but you’re implying that Obama is somehow missing the boat, not truly understanding, and just needs a nudge to do the right thing.
On the contrary, I think he knows exactly what he’s doing and this is deliberate policy. He never challenges big business on anything. Why is this?
Remember when he called the bankster CEO meeting at the White House and three of them said it was too foggy for their jets to take off, so they canceled? Obama meekly thanked them for calling in by phone.
LBJ would have had their heads on a platter. More to the point, they wouldn’t have dared not show.
Obama never challenges big business because he is inseparable from them. He did it with the banksters and he’s doing it now with BP.
It’s amazing how far right Obama is taking the country by virtue of basically whatever he does is automatically defined as center or center-left. Richard Nixon before too long will be considered a left of the left liberal.
Obama’s far far far to the right of Nixon already
http://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/content?oid=30709
The Daily Beast has a post addressing the current meme that this disaster is Obama’s fault; i.e. “Obama’s Katrina.”
I posted the following note to a web entry this morning:
which drew the following (I termed “weak” response from another commenter:
Looks/sounds like more of the same “we’re just following the law” BS excuse that this admin uses for things it does not want to push or change.
Anyone else have a take on this?
Gov’t is not exercising it’s oversight responsibilities, THAT is the what has folks riled up
Very true. Allowing BP to refuse access to video for as long as they did, as well as numerous other offenses make this glaringly obvious.
Of course, falling back to deflect my criticism to the workers in the various centers is a complete straw man non-issue.
The Gold Oil Disaster can be considered Obama’s Katrina insomuch as 1) Obama is a neoliberal, 2) has failed to adequately address the disaster, 3) has put governmental and corporate interests ahead of the elemental human interests of those living in the Gulf region. The causes of the disaster may predate Obama, as you point out, but diminishing the effects produced by disaster belongs to him.
I place myself in the Obama is a corporatist camp — that is, he’s a neoliberal. One could anticipate his response to the Gulf disaster by the general course of his administration.
Yeah, simple too.
Yer right, and the rest of them are batshit crazy and mouthing veal pen corporate machine groomed bullshit to dazzle us.
Rock on, hoss.
*stands on chair clapping wildly*
Thank you, most excellent.
As essentially the whole of Obama’s record to date has shown, he sides always and completely with our elites. And our elites? They don’t do governance anymore. They only know how to loot and abet looting by them for them.
The White House has been in denial about a lot of fucking things. Let’s ask Rahm, Rahm knows best, Rahm has all the answers.
And I thought Bush was stupid and out of touch.
You should send your ideas to the White House asap.
We need to watch to see how Obama uses goverment grants and assistance to universities and un-purchased research labs to try to control the release of science that’s detrimental to he and BP.
I fully expect that the jawboning of the reporters is only the first shot across the bow of the good ship “Truth in oil drilling catastrophes”.
Long may she sail. :o)
Shit yer all over that one.
Great call.
Choke off the university’s, and their ‘liberal slants’ . .
Same stupid meme about the MSM.
Only, the university’s DO provide some real work!!!
*G*
Very good post. I enjoy watching a righteous ass-kicking. I will be forwarding the piece from hell to eternity – and that includes my asswad congressman, too. (This presupposes that he can actually read, of course.)
I think, and to be honest, I also hope, that it’s going to be worse than Katrina, for Obama. I’ve written him off, politically, and the only excuse I have for supporting him is that Hillary’s incessant truckling with the right, and McCain’s being a bush clone, left me no choice.
eCAHNnomics, polizeros — yes, the White House is in denial, unless they are really working hard towards a single term. Doesn’t matter how much money the oil business throws at them, still must win votes. Right now they are setting themselves up for a fall.
I dread what comes in the wake, but there it is.
RLMiller — excellent points. If only we had more access as both citizens and bloggers to Alaska.
“Right now they are setting themselves up for a fall.”
Absolutely true.
Which leaves progressives with some tough decisions to make.
My 2c: now, with all we’ve seen from him, and from the democrats, I could support a clean sweep, in both houses, if that were possible.
I feel like it’s more important for the historical record, to punish Obama and the dems for their feckless shit, than to worry about blocking the republicans. We’re going to lose seats in the mid-terms. Why not?
I am certain that the dem’s campaign slogan of:
“Vote for us! The republicans are even worse!”
Will not work with voters in the next election.
There is no (practical) difference anymore. Any suggested difference is only window-dressing and PR. Any policy difference is only for campaigning.
The legislation is meaningless because of all the loopholes.
And laws are ignored, anyway.
Whatever “they” say, the result is the same.
Press the Meat asked the question this AM ” what should the federal gov’t be doing about the spill”
Rayne has the (mulitple) answers to that question
Like anyone on that show would have an answer to anything more difficult than perhaps the time of day. What a joke.
Perhaps the BP issue will open the floodgates with reporters to report negatively since they’ll now see they have more to gain from reporting negatively (as in truthfully) versus getting inside scoops. Right now reporters fall in line to the WH’s will, but that could change.
The reason this is being called Obama’s Katrina is because it is such a massive and obvious case of incompetence by the President. Ordinary Americans may not follow a lot of things but they do have a basic understanding about some. As in, in a national emergency you do not sit on your hands. You mobilize all of the nation’s available resources, the most obvious of which is the military. You call the shots. You do not let petty bureaucrats or pissant company execs get in your way. Compare and contrast Obama’s response to this disaster.
It’s a little like the Rand Paul episode. The best way to discredit a libertarian is to let them talk. Well, the best way to discredit Obama is to give him a situation and watch his response.
Obama has paralyzed himself with all this bi-partisan bs. He’s a complete coward because he can’t bring himself to “take sides.” I’m not totally sure that it’s all about the money – I just think he is unable to think past “what if they don’t like me.”
I think the operative term is “coward.”
uh no, sorry ‘Stick
. . . in the taking of all these corporate face shots, I believe the operative term is Porn Queen
Exactly right. Imagine it if JFK had said “that space program and the Peace Corps—naww, that”s too difficult. People won’t love me anymore.” And FDR saying “forget the New Deal, the Present Deal is just fine.”
Obama needs to understand that risk taking is part of politics and if he wants to have any legacy worth remembering he’d better lose this need to compromise in every situation. And shit can that “bipartisan coalition” mumbo jumbo too. We don’t need waffling cowards who by their refusal to do the heavy lifting today defer the hard work to the future—we need help NOW.
I doubt Obama’s just a coward whose afraid of how’s he going to look. He wants to look good to be sure but he cares a hell of a lot more about what the mega corporations and banks want than he does about his ‘image’. I guess we’re going to go through this faux shock about democrats shouldn’t behave like this for awhile…sigh.
When we instinctively get, there’s one party with 2 branches…we’ll stop looking in the wrong places for ‘why’…
Bingo, the failure of this President in the face of classic challenges (GOM) is to NOT mobilize his forces to resolve it in the behalf of we the people.
Bush fucked up Katrina Relief (arguably pre Katrina prep) and Obama is fucking this one up.
Because they don’t SERVE we the people.
Neither one of them.
End of story.
Stop all the talking and posturing and plug the funkin’ leak already!
Only then we can play the blame games and hold the impotent months-long hearings that reach no conclusions or meaningful fixes.
But one more time: FIX the leak THEN talk!
You bet. A good deal of all this is just a rant, talk with no solution.The blame game. Stop the damn leak already. Anyone know how to do that? That is what I want to hear not a diatribe about Obama. After it is over then go on a month long rant. Obama will not survive the next election anyway.
Great post, Rayne. But we’re all still living inside the American Hologram, and nothing will change until enough individuals experience their own internal de-coupling from it. That’s why agitating for right action from the lying scumbags who imagine they “rule” us is a waste of time and energy.
There IS hope a-plenty, however, given the opportunity for *spiritual revolution.* The fact that this is never mentioned in progressive circles is why my political blogroll is down to just a handful… Not my tribe!
Great Post. Great comments.
this is the tipping point for OB.
Either he gets what a disaster this is and takes new and original action or he goes down as a clown.
Sect Chu (the Nobel laureate from berkeley at the energy dept) should be in charge of a team of the best minds. Yes, BP engineers should be “federalized” so they no longer are working under layers and layers of PR, Fiscal, Political and other considerations being put on them by top BP management.
On top of that, BP is clearly lying about what happened, what is happening and they are analyzing the choices through layers of PR, Financial, LIability and Political considerations that have nothing to do with the public good.
this is unacceptable and OB is about at the end of the window for stepping in. This inaction by OB (whether real or just perceived) will be seen as far worse than Bush on Katrina and the damage will be evident for a decade or more.
Obama is a Blue Dog status quo corporatist. Bipartisanship is just a screen to justify his apparent moving far to the right of his rhetoric. In his political philosophy though, he is already there. How do we know this? Because there are a zillion things that Obama can do that do not require Congressional authorization. The BP disaster is a case in point. He does not need to be bipartisan at all on this to act. He did not need to create the Cat Food Commission and make sure it was stuffed with Social Security haters. His DOJ has not had to oppose habeas petitions in really egregious cases or turn Bagram into another Guantanamo. These are all things he did on his own. Obama’s actions and inaction are not the result of bad compromises. They are a reflection of his own beliefs.
how come they don’t have threading & rec’s on this blog?
I’d love to be able to go through my old comments to find gems like this.
thanks hugh.
rmm.
Good Morning Rayne and Firedogs -
Reagan fired cronies Rita LaVelle and Ann Burford when their inaction embarrassed his WH. further, he more than doubled SuperFund $$$ in their wake
Nixon gave us both the Environmental Protection Act and National Environmental Policy Act (think environmental impact statements) both of which had their genesis in an Eisenhower Admin paper on Outdoor Recreation
considering the current WH’s enchantment with all things Repub, this is beyond epic fail
Star Date 2010: All hope lost !
Unfortunately for Obama and the rest of the White House occupants, this disaster isn’t going away simply because Obama seeks to limit the press it gets.
Obama’s job is to protect everyone, NOT just his fat cat bankster and big oil pals.
from darkblack
It infuriates me that so far, all of the effort has been involved in recovering the oil, rather than stop it coming out. Maybe they should look to prevent it escaping.
Maybe the White House should take over the entire effort and bill BP, Transocean and Halliburton since all of them have demonstrated that they can’t operate in good faith. I would also like them to stop approaching this from the standpoint that we need to RECOVER this oil and start looking at it from the perspective of STOPPING the oil. I don’t have a solution nor the technical expertise to come up with one but let’s start by taking BP’s profitability and stock value out of the equation along with any idea of recovering this oil as a primary motivator.
This narrative that Obama has spun — that BP has to be in charge of, or at least a “partner” in, the response to this disaster is totally preposterous. A national disaster — caused by natural forces or by a corporate “accident” — calls for the federal government to be totally in charge from the beginning. His self-serving chant that BP will pay for all of the damage caused has been a diversionary lie from the beginning, bought hook, line, and sinker by the MSM and most so-called liberal blogs.
It is now becoming obvious to most observers that, by definition, as President, he in fact HAS been in charge from the beginning, but he delegated it all to BP: the flow of information to the public, the courses of action to be taken, and the time frame. In doing so, HE is responsible for BP’s actions.
His response is a commission? As noted up-thread, the operative word is “coward.”
the mainstream media is fighting back. The blogs like dkos are the gate keepers now.
BTW, for once it is good to see the MSM press corps actually acting like the 4th estate and questioning the government.
Gibbs is way out of line calling them on the carpet for it. That’s them actually doing their jobs
The government should have taken over the moment they knew the spill happened and sent the bill to BP along with a notice to stop all drilling in progress until a complete assessment of drilling regulations is completed.
It would be different if we were getting the benefit of the oil they are drilling. But as soon as it comes out of the ground it goes on the international market and then we bid against others to get the oil. No discount there. All we get is the royalties that are blunted by the subsidies we give the oil companies to drill. Like they would not drill without a government handout? Give me a break!
Obama was very quick to support firing all the teachers in a school that he didn’t think was doing a good job. Why doesn’t he hold BP and the “Regulatory” agency that oversees them to that standard. He should be firing their a*ses, not rearranging their deck chairs.
Is it because they aren’t unionized?
Or was it all the money he got from BP? Tell me again about how all his donations were in small amounts of $10 and $20, from average Americans who never contributed before?
Seems like BP gave a lot more, along with others, to get this kind of “oversight”
Meanwhile the average American is rewarded with his newly minted “Presidential Cat Food Commission”. Jobs gone, savings gone, unemployment assistance gone, health insurance gone. Cat food may be coming for non seniors too.
We had the bailout for the Financial Industry and the Health Insurance Industry, the Oil Industry was just next in line. We have to help our poor struggling industries. It isn’t like they can help themselves with profits so low. Show a little empathy folks and donate some money to BP so they can figure out how to drill another well and destroy another ecosystem
Excellent points, all.
I would only add that it is only a matter of days before the GOP totally gets on their high horse and they will ruin Obama with this. Right now they’re too afraid of Rand Paul, and their own butts in bed with Big Oil, but they’ll come around soon, and they will be relentless. As well they should be.
This is an unprecedented disaster, and needs an unprecedented response, not some corporate board meeting BS, which is what we’ve gotten.
I doubt it. They are as much in the pocket of Big Oil as the Democrats are. Even if they did, it would be just another pseudo-fight. Democrats and Republicans slamming each other as both rush to enact the same sorts of pro-corporate policies.
That is a frame I hope starts to stick. Both parties work for the same corporate team, neither party gives 2 shits about the American people. I hope I see future stories carry this theme because a lot of time is wasted lamenting the Repubicans bad/Democrats weak garbage.
Look, unless you actually are an activist at grassroots level in the Democratic Party and you have earned that opinion, you really don’t understand the disconnect which happens somewhere in the party between state and national level races. Most of the folks in the Dem Party do their best to support candidates who support true Democratic values, but unfortunately two things keep these candidates from making it to the top of the ladder.
The first is that it takes an absolute disregard for any of the abuse which will be heaped on a candidate and later an incumbent. Hell, my kid caught a rash of crap this week because the kids in his class found out that the substitute teacher they had is an acquaintance of mine through the local Dem Party. Even a tenuous link like that can bring that crap home to one’s family, let alone actually running for office. Who wants that? Consequently we frequently have boneheads running for office.
(And it happens on the other side of the aisle, too — note the number of Republicans who fuck around on their spouses? they could give a shit about their families, and that’s why they run for office.)
The other problem is corporate money; once candidates succeed at higher level office, more money is needed and much of it is corporate. They get bought, are captured, and it goes to hell from there.
It’s not the Dem Party per se; it’s our electoral system’s funding mechanism, and it’s our culture which allows the denigration of office holders. That’s why we end up with crap leadership.
But none of this is going to immediately solve the BP Oil Disaster.
Your right ” It’s not the Dem Party per se; it’s our electoral system’s funding mechanism, and it’s our culture which allows the denigration of office holders. That’s why we end up with crap leadership.”
And you think it’s going to get changed at the grassroots level ? (your gonna have to go way beyond Friedman units to measure this effort in terms of time).
Don’t tell me I haven’t earned the right to have my opinion, it’s obvious I insulted democrats and that ‘bugs’ you. I’m saying neither party will be fixed from within. Been saying that for awhile now and will continue to do so. Electing a few ‘locals’ just perpetuates the myth that we can make inroads to change things. They will forever be bought out, out funded and/or compromised to a point of being neutered.
Look, I’ve busted my ass at local level since 2003 to change this situation. I don’t take it well when people lump all Democrats together and paint them with the same big brush, because they aren’t a monolith. I don’t take it well when other progressives I’ve worked with cheek and jowl since 2003 are also treated like they are part of the problem and not the solution.
One of the other problems is that the American people have become disconnected from the process of democracy and think it’s enough to show up at the polls every four years, and then spout off so much hot air in the interim. Until the American people actually get off their butts and get engaged, democracy dies once it gets past local level. Hot air and keyboard pounding is not going to fix this democracy.
Edit: By the way, I did make a point in my post above that this was a thread for solutions to the oil spill. Do you have any?
Believe it or not Rayne, your preaching to the choir here. A lot of wasted energy is all I’m saying…
Peace be with you.
“Edit: By the way, I did make a point in my post above that this was a thread for solutions to the oil spill. Do you have any? ”
Answer: Apparently nobody does
Needed an edit because 1/2 your comments in this thread are nothing about the BP disaster…Your mad, so am I…
Nobody? Um, I came up with a dozen ideas on my own, and that was without much effort. Just ask my peeps, spun out the first ten ideas in under 20 minutes.
And RLMiller had a couple which were pretty good, too.
But this is kind of how our democracy works, right there in a nutshell.
Hundreds of drive-bys, a fewer number of comment readers, an even fewer number of commenters, and a only a scant number of ideas. Mirrors what happens in our democracy and how we end up with our leadership-by-default which can be bought.
Imagine what could happen if a corporation had been paying me to plug a product when I wrote this post.
I think most in elective office believe the corporations are the country. The people are the simple folk who work for them and at least Democrats now and then see the need for some charity from the corporate government.
That is the priority we see set over and over again. The horror of it in the case of this gusher disaster is that there is ignorance and callous disregard for the future of the earth as a host to life forms.
(I am/was a Democratic party activist. In my part of the country you can get your house burned down for that. I broke with my local party because they closed down for the summer rather than support Obasma. Yes I was taken in at least hook and line if not sinker.)
The GOP started calling Obama’s Katrina from the start. They were going to try and pin the tail on him.
He didn’t have to be put in the same category as Bush, he put himself there by doing nothing, covering up for BP, repeating their BS.
I wondered how he’d perform with no experience and no position on anything. I hoped he could handle it. I don’t wonder any more.
Just about everything that Obama says turns out not to be true. So when Obama said that BP will pay for all the cleanup cost from its oil spill, what he is really saying is that BP is totally off the hook and the American people will be paying for BP’s mess either in the form of higher taxes or higher gas prices or both. Nothing has changed about Obama. He’s still deep in the pockets of Corporate America, so he’ll continue to make certain that BP’s profits remain privatized and its losses remain socialized. He’s still a crony capitalist’s best friend.
And since all of the privately-owned oil companies, from Exxon to Shell to Chevron, don’t have any incentive, much less any desire, to help BP to put a stop to the gusher in the Gulf, that leaves the publicly-owned companies, mostly ones from the BRIC countries, to step in and fill their shoes. And because Brazil’s Petrobras is one of the world’s leaders when it comes to drilling for oil in ultra-deep water, this giant oil company from Brazil most likely knows the most about how to stop oil from gushing out of a wellhead that’s 5,000 ft underwater. But now that Obama has snubbed Brazil’s trilateral agreement with Turkey and Iran that would allow Iran to hand over a large part of its low-enriched uranium stockpile in exchange for a much smaller quantity of slightly higher enriched uranium so that Iran can produce medical isotopes, don’t be too surprised if Brazilian President, Lula da Silva, snubs Obama back by refusing to help us out in the Gulf.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iran-nuclear-20100517,0,7697709.story
It’s high time for the American people to wake up the ugly truth that Obama is not only a neocon warmonger who chooses war over peace, but he’s also a neolib corporatist who chooses corporate profits over protecting our workers as well as our environment.
Frankly, Barack Orhama 0Sell0ut,
keep doing what you’re doing so we can HOPEfully get rid of your clinton dlc sell out ass.
good fucking riddance.
rmm.
Does the Supreme court decision that corporations have the same campaign donation status as private individuals have the Obama paralyzed, or is he just another corporate lackey disguising himself as a Demorcrat?
We are owned by the corporations. We just don’t get paid for it like Obama does. Americans should thank their lucky stars that we are still eating. Shelter-not so much. Oil-we will have plenty of that to buy.
Remember, Bush was never dumb. Obama is not naive. The one word that describes their collective reason for never doing the right thing?? CORRUPTION They were both bought and paid for. The only question is which rationale did each use to pretend they can’t do what is right. Bush pretended to be dumb. Obama pretends he is analytical to a fault. Give me a freaken break. Bought and paid for….the both of them. Since when did you ever hear of the media jumping on the bandwagon of a real progressive or liberal. And you thought he was hope and change! Instead he is bought and sold. Sorry guys. It doesn’t feel good to be so bamboozled.
I may be an old fool but I doubt that any modern president would do anything that might harm the profit potential of a company with $247 billion in assets at this point in our history. We are no longer the United States of America but rather have fully become an enabling subdivision of the Global Corporations of the World — the ultimate purpose of the free market religion has been fulfilled.
Twenty one years ago Exxon created the horrific Valdez oil spill in Alaska and, with the help of the Alito court, has continued to avoid paying much of anything in damages thanks to never ending appeals. The environmental damage is still there and will go on for another decade, at least. The BP longterm effects will be far worse.
Unless and until the American people decide to stand together and demand and end to reckless, unregulated, and unaccountable corporate greed and control of all governments nothing will change for the better. We are doomed to corporate servitude by our own lack of will and fear of suffering. If I were inclined to cynicism, I would guess that Obama is allowed to preside over the United States of America precisely because he will not, under any circumstance, confront or challenge the oligarchy and their domination.
It is not possible under current conditions with “too big to fail” corporations that control amounts of money to rival the entire GDP of most countries in the world to effectively govern any country to the good of its citizens. The borg has assimilated them all and they are helpless. I never thought I would believe something like this in my half century of political activism but there is no doubt in my mind any more. My enlightenment came from a decades-long study of the corporate takeover of American public education, one of the “minor” battles in the war for complete control by the military-industrial complex. Eisenhower was far too prescient, IMHO.
Obama’s Potemkin administration dances the Kabuki again
STOP THE DAMNED OIL GUSHING INTO THE GULF OF HALLIBURTON NOW
You’ve wasted over a month lying for BP, Trans-Ocean & Halliburton, and now you’re appointing a bipartisan commission?
This is an ongoing terrorist attack on America by multinational corporate oil interests that own the U.S. government.
If Libya, Iran or North Korea was responsible for this catastrophe, you’d already have leveled that country with cruise missiles and drones by bombing them back into the Stone Age.
All of Obama’s lies and manipulation of Democrat’s are coming back to haunt him in the form of his inability to provide any appropriate leadership on anything. This crisis just continues to reveal his pathetic character.
Quoting LiberalHitGirl
Haven’t read the comments. I only have one. Top kill the damn thing. Do it within the next 48 hours. Then start the inventory of the short and long-term damages and identify the resources necessary to resolve them.
It’s interesting that so many people seem to think that the US Government actually does see this as a disaster rather than a PR problem for BP. What is that based upon? If they really did see it as a disaster the response would have been far swifter and far more comprehensive. They don’t see it as a disaster. Ecosystems and wildlife? Pshht. Who cares? No profit in that. Tourism? The Gulf states are already on the verge of bankruptcy and the money has already shifted out of the tourism market. And the same goes for the housing industry. The millionaires that live along the coast, just a little more than a mile from my door? Inconsequential.
They vote Republican to protect their own interests and keep the undesirables as far away from them as possible but they have the means and the wherewithal to move elsewhere where it is oil-free. They won’t like taking a hit on their inflated property values but there are many tax loopholes to help them come out even or with a profit in the end.
No one in Washington sees this as anything but a danger to selling BP stock and maintaining plutocratic profit margins. The couldn’t care less about the fishermen, the tourists, the residents, and the wildlife/ecosystems of these poor southern states.
A voice of reason…
Thank you
I think there’s a simple, straight-forward way to shut off the leak: Blow the well up. Keep in mind that the well is a narrow hole in the sea floor passing through hundreds or thousands of feet of sediment and rock that would close itself off if the rock and sediment matrix were shattered with a large explosive. Hit the thing with one or two blockbuster bombs and crush it. If it turns out that setting off charges at the wellhead doesn’t seal the well, drill and plant the explosives several hundred feet below the sea floor so that the weight of the sea bed above the rupture point crushes the well.
This would be a very simple thing to implement in the future. Before any new off-shore wells could be drilled, they had to have drilled holes that would be used to plant the explosives that would kill the well if it went rouge. Wells that had “suicide switches” built in would very likely have blowout preventers that worked.
Not gonna happen, frankBel. From Crooks and Liars:
True. The Administration does not support killing the well. Make them defend their reasons why, in the face of the largest international ecological disaster to date, they do not take over and kill the well. This is a multi-billion dollar disaster, affecting tens of millions people. Shut the god-damned well down. Now.
That discussion is underway over at this link.
Unfortunately, nobody with any expertise is talking rationally about it as an option, only reactionaries who are giving little thought to the possibility of unintended consequences.
You have something entirely new in the way of a suggestion? Share it here.
I’m so glad I supported Obama, sent him money, and hustled to get him elected. The man’s a real “profile in courage!” What a “take-charge kinda’ guy!”
Definitely fire Ken Salazar AND his cowboy hat, and initiate steps to ban all offshore oil drilling.
If this catastrophe had occured in any European country and just about anywhere else in the civilized world the citizens would be on the streets demanding the heads of the corporate CEO’s responsible and their politician enablers. America’s have lost all sense of outrage. The frogs have been in the water far too long.
No question that this spill is a heartbreaking environmental catastrophe…but to me, the political heartache stems from the fact that the current administration is dealing with the spill in a fashion no better than what I might have expected from the last one. And then…there’s the fact that Barack Obama has been the number one recipient of BP cash over the last 20 years.
At least Obama hasn’t said that anyone is doing a “heckuva job” on the spill…but, it doesn’t appear that the feds are doing much of anything, really.
sad but true
Adm. Allen of the USCG was on one of the morning shows spewing lie after lie. The worst was his claim that we’ll near the amount of oil from Valdez by the time this is over. It’s already passed the Valdez, so what are they desparately hiding? The Coast Guard takes orders from the President, so I can only assume he’s being told what to say by the WH.
I think there’s way more going on than meets the eye. They’re guarding this site like a mama bear guarding her cubs. Why won’t they allow other scientists or governments who may have valuable insight? It doesn’t make any sense, but for one thing. They have blasted a massive hole in the earth and there’s no known way to stop it. None, nada. What if the video we’ve been seeing isn’t even the main gusher? Ever think of that?
There’s no way to confirm anything the administration or BP says, so who knows what they’re feeding us. But that’s exactly how they want it.
If they blew a gasket in the earth and know there’s no way to stop it, Obama can take the cowardly path and watch massive death and destruction. Or, suck it up and accept help from anyone in the world willing to help us.
I think we’ve got a big coward determined to cover it up to save BP’s ass over preventing massive death and destruction.
So what would you suggest to remedy the lying we are seeing?
One suggestion is the use of pamphleteers, leaflets and wall postings. The corporate media is corrupt and complicit and provides nothing but propaganda. Not everyone is a blogger and their only source of “information” is television and/or newspapers both worthless. Why not use an effective means of communication utilized by movements short of funds and access to mass communication outlets.
Wow, that is a tough one.
They are all so bought off and corrupt, they just don’t respond to America’s real needs anymore. It’s the foxes/henhouses, inmates running the asylum, and I’m stumped.
In all honesty Rayne, sorry to say but I gave up two months after BO was sworn in. When he picked his cabniet, I knew we were DOA.
They’ve got everything covered, the MSM being a huge coup to making it happen for them. They even have their own private army, Blackwatrer, thirsty for blood 24/7.
And you?
Rayne…excellent article! Thank you!
I think that it is abundantly clear that BP, the EPA, the Coast Guard, and most especially the so-called Commander in Chief, COWARDLY or INTENTIONALLY, ObamRahm are just saying STFU to all of us. Don’t F__K with us or we’ll slap you down American serfs! If that is the true nature of this kabuki play, all of our angst and well deserved emotional hand wringing and commentary is falling on astoundingly DEAF ears.
We all have witnessed this freakin BS from Day one. The Gulf is over, dead for years to come. I am sure the deep oil plumes will find their way into all the oceans, but most especially the Eastern Coast…and it isn’t over yet and may not be for months. The reality is, so deftly and intelligently laid out by Rayne and many other folks, is that the Prez and his minions are not going to do a F__kin thing about this, except try to play us for the serfs they assuredly think we are. I believe it is way past time for a large scale mass people protest in some significant form that draws so much attention that it cannot be ignored. In a country of so many citizens that are completely fed up and angered by the crap we have endured, I find it hard to believe that we cannot get millions of us into the streets or on the steps of the DC establishment to vent the rage. In other countries we can see people putting their lives on the line to protect themselves, while in the US the citizens have not shown any spine for such activity.
Will it mean civil disobedience? I expect that it might. But the alternative is to watch these pricks destroy our coastlines, and the oceans, and eventually us as a species, until the days are done, and the game is over. I am not going down with a whimper, and I am sure that there are millions that feel the same way.
So, again, where do we go from here???
In points 3 & 5 about skunkworks / X-Prize endeavors, it should be noted that Kevin Costner may have a device available to assist in the cleanup operation. It won’t stop the leak, which needs to be addressed first of course, but it sounds very promising in reducing the amount of oil in the water:
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/kevin-costner-unlikely-hero-gulf-oil
They would probably have to stop using dispersants in order for the device to be able to get the oil from the surface, but that’s a good thing because the dispersants are toxic and are pretty much just being used to hide the volume and extent of the spill from air & satellite reconnaisance.
The first thing Obama did to solve our energy crisis was to drill, baby, drill. A couple weeks later we have the largest oil spill in history. If it weren’t so tragic; if fishermen weren’t considering suicide; if our food supply wasn’t at risk; I’d be laughing my ass off.
As it stands, the only thing I can think to do other than cry is to visit Huffington post and yell at all the Obama apologists who claim the president is powerless because of the LAW. Humans can rationalize just about anything they don’t want to confront and it appears the Dems are just as good at it as the Bush apologists were.
I thought I had developed PTSD from Bush but Obama has taken my mental illness to a whole new level.
Gulf Coast residents must now know how the displaced refugees from the Dust Bowl felt.
HP is nothing but a giant circle jerk of Obama love.
Hey Barry, 120 responses in 36 hours on one small website, most of which a pretty pissed off. Spin that!
I am as concerned as anyone here about this, but after reading the post and all the comments, I am still at a loss as to how the federal government is to put a stop to the immediate problem of the oil spewing into the Gulf.
Hey, Obama can accept all the help being offered from anyone in the world, for one.
And he surely doesn’t have to be so blatantly negligent and cruel.
He can damn well make sure BP gives protective gear to all the fishermen helping out instead of allowing BP to brazenly poison these guys.
That is an obvious no brainer, but he won’t even do that.
F__king outrageous!
That’s the problem. We are all seeing how this great, powerful America has been brought to its knees by a leaky pipe–one that should never have existed. Even if we don’t have a solution to the leaky pipe, at least we could have run around like chickens with our head cut off trying ANYTHING that might help. As it stands, we’re all left to sit here and watch the leaky pipe leak while the government sits by and realizes how impotent they are and works on how to manage the optics of the situation instead of actually doing something–anything–that might help the situation. They can’t even manage to control which dispersant BP is using.
I would much rather see useless booms going up all around the gulf coast, tons of research vessels reporting on the plume and its movements, calls out to the rest of the world for help in confronting this disaster, then to see my president siding with BP and getting annoyed that we’re all annoyed with him. What a leader.
So you’re satisfied that all that can be done is being done? And, if the answer to that question is yes, pray tell, where does your confidence come from?
Great post. I agree with you on all points. Who is running the show? Obama will take a Katrina hit on this – it is in the works right now. What is his problem? Where is a progressive alternative so we don’t have to think Obama is horrible but better than the Repugs.
Superb list, Rayne.
To point 10, on chasing BP down wherever it has dragged its slime across U.S. territory, add Lake Michigan. You know, the thing that kind of defines that place that Obama used to launch his political career.
I think he needs to do something for the region to avoid complete failure, and there are matters outstanding with BP regarding their refining operations in northern Indiana.
Thanks for the rant. I, too, am very unclear on what citizens can do at this point, short of civil disobedience. I do think it’s good to blog and get info out there – for sure you’re not going to see anything in the so-called “media” these days that is anything but a cheerleader for the Admin in one fashion or another.
My biggest question is what does it take to wake up a largely sleeping and complacent population? Seriously? Here we are in the worst “recession” in a long, long time, which can clearly be attributed to bad business practices in the Banks and Wall ST. The govt – both on the so-called “right” and “left” – bails out big bidness and pretty much leaves the serfs to fend for themselves.
After 29 killed in a mining disaster, and the owner going on the offensive and saying it wasn’t his company’s “fault”… and now this oil volcano with BP pretty much doing the Bankenshit tango… and the citizens are doing what??? Nada zip bupkiss. Home and hosed.
I very little in the way of protest coming from the Gulf Coast states. Why is that? The businesses down there – because clearly neither our govt nor most of our citizens give a crap about humans these days – are going to be effed. I thought the libertarian republicans were ever so concerned about business, business, business. So: what? We’re all just supposed to mimic Rand Paul and feel very very very sorry for BP?????? Because otherwise we’re “unAmerican.” But what about the other businesses?? Screw them, too, bc BP is bigger?????
Mostly rhetorical questions, but I don’t get it.
Other than Eelhead Carville making a statement, I see very little else eminating from the Gulf… unless somehow I’ve missed something.
What does it take??? Full fledged Hollywood-style asteriod crashing into the planet disaster?? to wake up the sheeples???
As far as protests go, unless it’s the unwitting corporate tools aka Teabaggers. the corporate media treats them persona non grata.
See any coverage of K Street protests? Or how about the worldwide protest before the Iraq war including the half million protesting in NYC? No.
How about all the WTO protests in Pittsburgh last year. Tanks and police brutality against residents just walking along, and not a word in the mainstream press.
So, for all we know the people in the Gulf are rioting in the streets right now.
Creating the sense of isolation is important for them to continue their
domination. A consolidated corporate owned media will not work against their own interests. It would take millions on the Mall to get their fear going.
Destroy the well. If it’s even possible. Who the hell knows what’s really going on down there since our only source of information has been a multi tiered crime syndicate.
Destroy it and quit screwing us over so BP can eventually drill on.
Obama’s sacrificing an entire region of the country to salvage the well for BP. It’s beyond belief that we finally got a president so sick in the head. He’s channeling Cheney and needs to be locked up.
Agreed in full.
Clean, neat and simple.
Thanks.
Agree
You are probably correct that the government has no tools adequate to stop the gusher. In fact no one seems to have the knowledge.
However the failure to have the proper tools is a result of the government ceding its assets to for profit multinational corporations. This based on the naiveté of the Randnuts that have held power in government for the past 40 plus years, including Clinton, even Carter. A philosophy that Greenspan candidly acknowledged was wrong headed. A philosophy that Obama seems determined to continue to follow while stamping is foot and saying “I am mad”
The President could begin by nationalizing BP, appropriating their equipment and making them report to the government directly.. BP is an expert in drilling holes. Not plugging them or repairing enviromental damage. hire real experts. Hopefully some exist.
Carville has it right.
I live on the Gulf Coast and I am being directly affected by this disaster. I smell the burning oil (from the “controlled” burn-offs) every time I walk out my front door. The tar balls are hitting the local beaches where sea turtles should be tending their nests.
There is no easy solution to this. The NYT just reported this:
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/05/23/us/politics/politics-us-oil-rig-salazar.html?_r=1
Note that right after expressing his frustration he immediately points out the real problem: this is threatening the existence of BP. And note also that the quote says it is threatening a disaster — not that there is a disaster happening already.
I’ve called my Republican congressperson’s office several times about this. I’ve called both my Republican and Blue Dog Democrat senator’s offices as well. They all have a canned answer about opposing more offshore drilling.
The best option at this point seems to be drilling side-along relief wells to alleviate the pressure and then attempting to stop up the gushing well with shredded tires and such which will take another 2 weeks, according to the Miami Herald.
Obama’s coming out with his surprise drill baby drill support just before this disaster happened has convinced most of my neighbors that this administration isn’t any different from the previous one and that no one is going to ride up on a white horse and rescue us. My friends who depend on Gulf fishing for a living are walking around like zombies right now. We know what has hit us and we are in shock.
Coming up with lists of solutions is great if anyone will actually listen to them or think about them — Gizmodo has had a couple of articles up where Bill Nye and other scientists explain why most solutions won’t work. This is just a giant clusterf*ck and we’ve sh@t the bed, apparently. And there’s no easy way to undo it if there’s any way at all. That’s pretty scary to us down here on the front lines.
I know I am not alone in saying I am so sorry. Because of my health I would have had to leave the area already. And this is a terrible risk for healthy people.
The effects on the whole population of the area, the economy, and the ecology are being totally ignored. It’s so dangerous. And they have had weeks to get their heads around it and do something to mitigate the effects. Or at least take it seriously.
It’s horrible. I am so sorry.
I think there are lots of people “out here” who are very angry and concerned.
And I no longer think any solutions will come from the government.
Rayne ~ spectacular essay. I was thinking just this morning, back to the early days when a number of the smart folks here at fdl started brainstorming what happened and what should be done. And how come we can be so smart and the people who are paid to be smart can’t seem to figure this out.
Yes, they have all been captured by the free market/corparatist mythology.
Yes, we are well and truly fucked. We are under the jackboot of laws based on policy created for politics while everyone at the top is above the law. It’s so unAmerican it takes my breath away.
Our laws are Kabuki too.
I have been thinking for a while that one of the reasons (if we take another moment to contemplate the reasons, we being logical-minded and all …) the two parties are so similar and the responses are so similar is the political consultants are more and more a single faction. The consultants advise both parties and they bond with each other, regardless of party. As time goes on, it all looks the same.
And PR runs everything. Amazing find, that tweet about the WH press office scolding the reporters. But Gibbs is forgetting the rulebook. You get one news cycle to make it go away, Gibbs baby. After 30 days, even the M$M is going to look crazytown if they don’t say anything. And at this point people looking for coverage will affect ratings. And the stories are very juicy. So the lockdown on the Gulf will get more drastic.
But then you have Jindal and the commercial fisherman group and the local mayors. They cannot afford to be all aloof and depend on PR. Not gonna work for them. It’s a transformative event for them, sad to say.
And how come, as Carville and Anthony Bourdain say, this is such a replay of Katrina? The pictures from the Gulf today are showing that there is still huge piles of TRASH lying around from Katrina. Shame. Shame. Shame. Why does America hate NOLA?
Maybe the American people are asleep, but this is NOT going to be managable when it hits the Atlantic. Other countries are going to be scared shitless and are going to scream bloody murder. They won’t take to absorbing the costs of this when the US is telling them to suck up their economic problems.
My own 2 cents worth from the beginning was the minute this was determined to be non-trivial to stop the flow, the First or at least Equal priority should have been to figure out how to scoop up the oil. Because it looks like we need to be scooping up oil for months. That’s what they did in fucking Saudi Arabia. But no. BP doesn’t want to be bothered and the prez doesn’t want to “play it that way,” so we are fucked.
Fuckers are so stupid they must be crazy.
And if the refusal by BP to stop using corexit goes without response (which it will …) we will have entered a new phase of the end of the American experiment.
This country has the capability to do everything you list. In a heartbeat. It’s a tragedy that it won’t happen.
Great post, thanks Rayne.
Terrific list. Just outstanding.
Sadly . . . . Obama has less than two weeks to change sides, and shut this one down (instead of trying to salvage it for future extraction).
If not, he’s toast, and so are the Dem’s in ’10.
Because if they DON’T shut that well down the damage is gonna be what tanks us economically by ’11 (as Hugh has predicted).
Great post, again, many deeply heartfelt thanks.
Here’s my guess. I’m with Carville on this.
At the meeting early on at the White House, BP assured Barry that everything was under control: the flow was relatively small, they had several fixes in the que, the “leak” would be stopped within a week or two, the damage would be minimal, and they would pay for all damages — BUT they wanted no interference whatsoever.
“Easy-way-out” Barry bought it hook, line, and sinker — and left BP “in charge.” And they’ve been stringing his ass out — and ours too — lying the whole way, basically pulling PR stunts out of their ass to buy time.
It is now too late for Barry to take charge — because taking charge now would be an admission that he was played by BP and failed to take charge from the beginning.
Put another way: He desperately wanted this embarrassing problem to just go away and BP told him exactly what he wanted to hear: They would make it go away.
Come on guys. Obama did all the heavy lifting when he signed Lilly Ledbetter.
It’s been smiles, rhetoric, golf, Daily Kult photo diaries ever since.
/s
But on a serious note, it’s always puzzled me that Obama appears to be completely uninterested in the size of the oil spew (barrels/gallons per day, etc.) I mean, he must be aware of the the controversy surrounding BP’s ‘number’, but doesn’t seem to give a shit anyway. WTF? If I were Prez (god forbid), that would be high up on my list of questions. Hard to fix something if you don’t know the extent of the problem.
And if you know there are serious doubts about the extent of the spew……… well get some serious people to supply the real number, pronto.
The usual responses over at DU can now be broken into three groups. First, the Obama as the biggest pussy needing protection. “What do you want him to DO?” is the message. This group feels that the demand that he do something is asking him to physically swim to the pipe and plug it. Case closed on that.
The second group, the Triangulators/how can we do something and not look like assclowns, well you know how that plays out. A commission is excellent! Well by the time this group gets finally pissed off, penguins will be covered in oil. But make sure the Obama is protected and not exposed to bad advice or worse yet, action that could be pegged to him later in his soon to be stunning show that he will put on for 2012.
The third group, apparently stockholders of BP and pragmatists of the flat screen TV variety of Democrats, stay on sidelines, but offer that it will be all OK.
But the underlying image is is our pussy president. Protected from any harm from his now officially disturbed hardcore devotees and protected from the outside world by what seems to be Martians advising him, he can do no wrong, and THAT’S OK! Because it’s better to do nothing than do something that someone can point to. I guess when people will be able to vote in Alabama by the light of the gulf being on fire, that’s a win-win for Obama.
Bush lied and got us into wars becuse he did what he thought was right. Obama can’t just tell the truth about the the horror of this nightmare underwater and take the reins and do the right thing?
Sooner or later Obama will have to get his hands dirty doing something. We elected him to lead and make the tough calls and be the decisive one. What it looks like we elected is the kid that gets his lunch stolen on the bus. And now not only that, now he is the weasel that that trys to be friends with the kids who stole his lunch.
I am still waiting to hear what is the right thing he could do now to stop the immediate problem of oil venting into the Gulf.
Yes, there are many things that can be done to see this never happens again and that those responsible for this are held accountable, but what can be done now to stop the oil from venting into the Gulf?
Take over the area and kick BP out. How’s that for starters? Oh wait, you are in the second group in this gig. The triangulators. Don’t make waves. Ask others “what can be done now?”
A strong/non-pussy president required. None available.
But the hilarity in this is his inaction, so not to make a mistake by taking any action, will lead him to finally take action that will be seen as too fucking late by the majority of people.
Shut Down EVERY BP Operation in this country coast to coast to focus them on the problems. When it’s capped they can reopen, 3 months or years from now.
You say it’s illegal, TOUGH SHIT, if we can torture under the law we can seize property and argue it out 10 years later in court.
A commission my ass, an international conference with Iran and who ever to brainstorm the end TOMORROW.
Why can’t the pipe be crushed like the end of a straw, and then once the flow of oil is drastically reduced as a result, the end of the pipe be capped in a steel basket, and then steel basket ported and filled with concrete?
Theoretically, at least, it can. The best discussions I have found re have been here
http://gcaptain.com/forum/offshore/4805-deepwater-horizon-transocean-oil-rig-fire-22.html
An Excellent diary, Rayne! And many correct (in my opinion) and good comments, too. We all know what needs to be done but none of us, on any “side”, can get past our (manufactured) fear to do it.
When there is a national catastrophe it is normal and useful for the leaders to communicate frequently and emphatically with the people. That increases positive energy, creativity and the will to volunteer.
Obama is an oiled cold fish.
Kill the well. The well is a tiny hole piercing hundreds or thousands of feet of rock under a mile of water. Shatter the rock matrix with a large explosive and gravity will do the rest.
There are two problems with this, though. If it works, BP’s well is gone, and so is a $100 million investment. I regard this as a feature, not a flaw. The second, is that if this works, people will ask why this wasn’t tried immediately, day one or two. Why was BP given the chance to save its well in spite of the risks and environmental costs?
You know what they teach us in business school? An entrepreneur is one who makes a profit as a reward for taking risks.
BP took a fantastic risk drilling for oil in deepwater, and in particular, this location. It took more risks whenever it cut corners to keep operating costs down, all of which was for the purpose of increasing profits.
You know what else entrepreneurs are entitled to as risk takers?
The losses from those risks.
BP can suck up whatever they lose as a result of this failure; that’s their lot as an entrepreneurial outfit.
And no, I have no idea why BP has been offered multiple chance to save this well other than somebody in the Executive Branch is operating according to the Chicago School of Economics, believing that government does not have any right to obstruct entrepreneurial efforts.
He could kick BP’s ass out and blow it shut. BP would lose billions, but that’s just too damn bad. But we live in a country that would rather sacrifice the US economy than a global giant. That’s the reality of globalization and privatization. We’re all expendable to them.
Salazar waived BP’s Environmental Impact Study for this well then has the balls to say he’s concerned for BP’s survival. OK then. Wwhy isn’t he telling BP to shut down the Atlantis rig 100 miles further out and 2000 feet deeper till they do a complete inspection? Interior gave BP a waiver on that one too, knowing BP employees reported missing pages in the plans; pages needed in an emergency.
So, I don’t want to hear their shit about poor BP. One month in this and BP hasn’t don’t shit to protect many of the LA. marshes and now everythings dead. Obama’s done nothing. The EPA’s done nothing. The only oversight is to cover and protect BP’s criminality for profit.
Damn Good Article Rayne! We appreciate it! Now, any ideas for a primary challenger for Obama? (sorry, couldn’t resist). Seriously, Great ideas and great article. I personally would just like to blow the whole thing up but I have no idea what damage that would create. I don’t mean nuke it or anything. Just get the thing to collapse on itself.
Salazar was just quoted on CNN as saying he is really really mad at BP for lying about this catastrophe. Then he is reported to have said it is a crisis for BP and may threaten the corporation! Not a word about the environment and the small businesses!
Thank you, Rayne. Obama’s response to the catastrophe has been unfreakingbelievable.
I don’t understand why everyone is so upset. This is obviously our fault.
I mean, we’re not doing our job to out fundraise Big Oil so that we can capture our own super-majority on Capitol Hill and in the White House. If we can’t bring more money to bear on our politicians than Big Oil we’re never going to get anything done, and they’re never going to listen to us.
We’re also not doing our job lining the pockets of the media conglomerates with millions of Dollars in advertising revenue to run our commercials, so they can take our money and lobby Congress and the President too.
We need to raise more money than Big Oil to buy politicians, more money for ads to shame the shameless, and still more money than that so when our ad money is later used against us, we’ll have plenty in reserve. If we can’t do that, then we don’t have anything to complain about. We all know that’s the only strategy that will work, so we best to to working harder at it.
If that doesn’t work, then we’re really going to have to ratchet things up. Like maybe write an open letter, or get a petition signed, or maybe even get politicians to sign onto some kind of statement… a pledge or something.
I don’t know why we aren’t trying these things!!!!
#12. President Obama should give the entire amount of campaign funds he received from BP and other oil and gas industries, and donate them to the relief effort down there in the gulf. He should renounce any policy promises he made to them and get to work defending the people of the gulf against this rapacious corporation, even going to so far as to pursue criminal charges against BP and its executives. Maybe then these criminals may take it seriously when they lie to the American people about their operations.
Whoa, good one, should have thought of that. Could also ask OFA to organize some relief work on the Gulf of Mexico, too.
I like this a lot Rayne. Wish I had something intelligent and succinct to add, but you seem to have covered the bases I knew about and some I hadn’t thought of.
A moment ago I was looking for a way to send this directly to the WH, but it doesn’t look to be that easy (of course) – I’ll work on it some more.
This is the lesser of 2 evils many dems still advocate for!
Several comments have recommended this. Blow the well. BP loses a ton of money and we might save some of the Gulf.
#12 Require all drilling rigs to be done in tandem: two rigs drilled right next to each other at the same time so that if one fails, the other can stop the leak. That’s the only solution known to work at this point- wait for an additional well to be drilled next to the one that is leaking. Don’t wait- get the second well in place from the beginning. If it costs a lot more, so be it. The leak will likely cost even more.
You said it all and said it well, Rayne. The only problem is where can the populace put all its anger and frustration. Unfortunately it makes a certain section of them susceptible to the demagogy of the tea party crowd. If left untended to long, the rest — the vast majority — will become demoralized.
It’s time the honeymoon with the White House be lifted. If it’s not the oil spill and environment, it’s the war issue, interrogations, etc. Too bad if the WH doesn’t like it if there’s a real Fourth Estate out there, reporting and holding the administration accountable. That’s what they’re there for. And the louder they groan, the better job I’ll know we’re doing.
Of course, the U.S. government will never consider what really should be done: nationalization of Big Oil.
Yeah, nationalization won’t work…not like nationalizing its largest consumer, the auto industry.
Actually, we ought to force BP America into bankruptcy, then nationalize it to save it, take an ownership position and then let it buy its way back to our good graces.
Excellent article Rayne.
Ive skimmed the comments and didnt find much about the dispersants. Hope I’m not covering old ground.
Why are dispersants being used in the first place? OK I can see dispersants being of some use in a minor spill, but to disperse this amount of oil and drive much of it under the surface seems like a very bad idea. The oil does not go away and some settles on the ocean floor and some disperses in the water. A lot of this could seriously affect the whole marine ecological structure from the microbes and bacteria up the food chain. And it lengthens the time for clean up and draws out the bad effects of crude in the gulf. And the dispersants are described as deodorized Kerosene which itself is toxic and now being used in huge quantities.
ALSO it makes the oil much less visible from the air – good for hiding the actual amount of oil being released. BP will use oil release estimates in the courts.
According to a post in The Oil Drum the well has serious design flaws in the first place.
Things Obama can do to restore trust:
Clean house at MMS.
Start GoM MMS inspections.
Hire MASSIVE clean up crew as jobs program.
Get real booms started to protect coast – not the for show only junk now deployed.
Give BP time limit to cap or kill well.
Debar BP.
Things we can do:
Boycott BP.
Make clear to Congress/Senate/President that current lack of response is reason to vote against.
Nothing will redeem Obama or the Dems in this house.
They can’t be trusted for one hot minute. All lies. Smoke and mirrors meant to fool people. They are NOT working for us, they’re working against us just like Republicans.
Only difference is Republicans are in your face about their callous disregard while the Dems are lying, two faced, sneaky, bastards.
Nice action items. And this time they need to avoid the pitfalls of FEMA post-Katrina, by actually listening to locals and putting some thought into the process.
Thank you Rayne.
Getting here late means more excellent comments to read.
Rayne this is excellent- concrete suggestions on what needs to be done.
dstrong @164; that is right. When the contributions were accepted by candidate Obama who could have known that something like this might arise.
A large oil company- luckily they are converting to green technologies and sources of energy (at least their ads said so..)- what could go wrong?
Standards of behavior are clear, nearly every politician will accept these contributions, after all ..what could go wrong??? Now that something has gone wrong…
The same analysis might apply to large banks that contributed.. what could go wrong…
The possibility of decisions financially affecting these corporate contributors???
The dirty little secret here is that, probably, nothing more can be done than what BP is now doing.
The Obama brain surgeons are going to have to decide whether they want to come clean and tell the American people this reality. If they do, they will probably have to state the obvious: if your national security depends on outer continental shelf oil production, spills like this come with it. There’s no way to explore, develop, and produce ocs leases in a way that eliminates this risk. Life in the Gulf of Mexico states just gets harder.
Once the Texas, Louisiana citizens who depend on oil production for their livelihoods, and politicians who survive on oil money throw the towel in on this, then life can get back to normal.
You could be right. Evidently no one knows how to stop this thing, not Obama, not his staff, not BP and no one posting here. Dirty little secret. But we can keep blaming all of them, hell, it’s fun. We all have our favorite devil.
using an Executive Order is actually not needed
under current law the Coast Guard is in charge and can order BP to do anything – indeed it is the “Sgt. Schultz “We know nothing” approach and must therefore depend on BP” that is killing progress – as if there are not other oil companies that can come in and replace/supervise BP for the Coast Guard.
Where is BP headquarters? Time for a Million American Vigil there.
BP headquarters, officially, in London. Major offices in Houston, where we’d probably get our heads blown off for protesting them.
I know nothing about how to fix a spewing well miles underwater. But since Obama hired the top science guy from BP to be 2nd in command in the Dept of Energy – Steven Koonin, look him up, BP sold him hard as the face of Beyond Petroleum, gag – I’d expect he’d have a solution straight from the horse’s mouth long before now, if there was one. From all I’ve read, there’s no short-term solution other than destroy the well. BP won’t do that unless it costs more not to, therefore we get the toxic dispersants to hide the true cleanup/coverup cost for BP – so, we’re going to keep getting spewed on.
I don’t trust Al Gore [gasp, what a heretic!] either, since trading carbon just gives the derivatives market their next casino-opening-scheme to gamble with and to create yet another bubble market, and doesn’t really reduce carbon emissions – see Europe under Kyoto.
I am now an anarchist, officially (if that isn’t an oxymoron). All due respect, Rayne, the Dem Party groups I’ve worked hard for, all over the country, are focused on: elections, influence, re-election, in that order. We’re FUBAR, and revolution is the only option now.
Welcome to the club. So much to read about. Anarchists have been deeply involved in history and we largely have them to thank for many of the work reforms we take for granted (that are being taken away bit by bit). I think a great site for discussion and relevant reading material is Libcom. Also, Wikipedia has a nice starting point here.
@phone: call DoJ and have them start issuing subpoenas for anyone on or near that rig, the Schlumberger group that left on a helo hours before the blowout, Transocean, Halliburton, and any related oil and energy sector employees within 6 degrees of separation of this mess.
@phone: have DoJ coordinate with EU because at this rate it’s a fair guess some of the BP, Halliburton, MMS, and Transocean managers are going to be hauled before courts in the Hague for international crimes.
@office: start interviewing for a new DoI Cabinet position if Rayne’s criteria for Salazar aren’t met.
@meetings: call in Riki Ott and a few other researchers to explain to you the biology of blood cancers, as well as other cancers linked to exposure to petrochemicals and also to any chemicals used to treat this mess, so that you know WTF these clowns are actually creating in terms of public health disasters.
…. And GSDN has to be the new mode going forward.
Anyone who was involved in making this mess needs to lose assets, and do some serious prison time. This is beyond ridiculous.
Nice list, rOTL. Hadn’t even gotten to concerns about human health in my list, nice to see that you took a proactive approach with yours.
And coordinating with EU? excellent, because they might actually do something about gross negligence if/when the oil shows up on their shores.
GREAT article! thanks!!
I rather suspect there is SOME way to stop the leak. But you have to be willing to obliterate the well!
Obama has, now, surely proven he is a Republican, though and through. Given the choice of siding with big corporations — like Pharma, or Wall Street, or BP — he does just that! Couldn’t care less about the people, or the environment, or much of anything else, besides getting re-elected.
If this takes till August to stop, and as much gets destroyed as might, do you think the people in Florida, and the Carolinas are just going to is around and watch their state beaches and oceans and everything associated with them destroyed?
What do we have to do to get the understand, this is SERIOUS?!!!?
Just for the record, there are BP refineries in Prudhoe Bay, AK; Carson, CA; Whiting, IN; Toledo, OH; Texas City, TX; and Blaine, WA.
Howdy to folks stopping by from Memeorandum.com, The Moderate Voice, The Confluence, Taylor Marsh, and Peter Daou’s post at HuffPo.
Look forward to any additional suggestions you have in the way of realistic action items the administration could and should take right now to remedy the multitude of problems we’re facing in the wake of the Deepwater Horizon rig explosion and oil spill.
Be sure to check Firedoglake’s collection of reporting and resources on the BP Oil Disaster.
You are probably correct that the government has no tools adequate to stop the gusher. In fact no one seems to have the knowledge.
I have a question:
How much oil is there in this well?
Is it possible, that they will not be able to control this oil well explosion,
that ALL of the oil tapped by that well, will gush out?
If so, how much oil is that?
After a month, I don’t think it can be stopped. If it could, it would be by now.
I think jail terms are part of the way of preventing this from happening again. long ones.
very good post, hope somebody who matters reads it.
I’m Not saying you imply that we don’t matter, I know you don’t mean that, but your comment gave me a great opening: people who matter Are reading Rayne’s post. I don’t believe I have Ever read a thread this long all the way to the end damn near every comment. I am not one of those kind of people whatever that means. What I mean is there are some fine suggestions here, and the process is much like her description above of Democracy In Action like a series of sieves of different grade pulling for the gold nuggets.
Since my comment a while back I’ve been moving around the country looking to see if and/or how many Americans are “Getting This”. Nah Not Quite.
I see an augmentation of what we in Nola grew to call “Katrina Shorthand” ie: for the Media to say Katrina flooded New Orleans instead of the Corps of Engineers. I see it morphing into “Disaster Shorthand” and We gotta Stop That.
Hence I have discovered a #15: Action/Solution or whatever: It is vitally important that our citizens GET THIS DISASTER CLEARLY. (please pardon the caps, I just need multi-level qualifiers:) It is easy to think we know about things that have happened, but not so easy to Get Them. Surviving the 1st week of the Federal Flood of New Orleans 8/29/05, led me to work hard with my blog (and levees.org) to convince people that New Orleans was a Man Made Disaster because even today some still think that Katrina devastated the city and not the Corps of Engineers Flood Wall Failures. The reason is because the Corps and the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) went to work immediately after those failures with Professional Public Relations to tell the public that it was the storm and those flood walls overtopped. They even did touring paid seminars blaming it on the levee-boards, the politicians et al. Really. And they were doing this with people like Engineering Schools who get funding from Corps Contractors. Really. But they also did it with the Press. It was some of the most sophisticated textbook PR that I’d ever seen, that is until this BP Oil Disaster.
What an event is Named is necessary to its apprehension.
So in Getting This, we have to Know It. You can do that here or there, but it would be better if Citizens started coming down to the scene and then going back to their people and coming back down again taking pictures, helping out, doing whatever you want/can in order TO SEE THIS. That is one of the main things that has helped New Orleans survive and thrive post Federal Flood, to wit: people coming down and seeing for themselves and going back to discuss it with their peoples. Y’all can go to my blog and fang back through the post and see what I mean there.
Am I making sense here?
It is so important to make sure We The People are Informed enough to Operate our Democracy.
I think they who would consume our rights with consumerists junk shots understand this to a tee.
For example, were it not for the blog SkyTruth.org (and other scientists with them), I really doubt we’d have been able to question BP’s heinously low flow estimates or know anything about what is going on down there at the well head.
For another example: There is a big protest planned in New Orleans for Sunday May 30th in Jackson Square.
And if’n any’yalls may be planning a quick get-away, we’d love for you to drop by for a drink or whatever and lend a stand. You are welcome we need you –not to do anything in particular but bear witness with us. For one think you will smell The Stench in New Orleans nearly every night now. For another you can drive down Hwy 90 into the parishes and see for yourself.
You better do this soon because as this Catastrophe gets worse I believe the Feds will have to start controlling access to Louisiana. What is happening there Right Now To Day is horrid enough but it is going to get worse, and much much Stranger.
So “we” here reading this matter because it is true only in so much as what “we” know.
We have to get past having expectations which can be managed and manipulated by PR.
The press covered that Naked Protest to Bare the Truth at the BP HQ in Houston as “nearly 100″ yet the pics I’ve seen look like at least 200, which could be Framed as “Hundreds” but wasn’t and won’t be unless we all get involved. Nearly 100 looks and sounds way smaller than 100s or 1000s.
There is a memorial today for the Fallen 11. Here is the official condolences page.
In with #15 is and actual action I discovered by America’s Watchdogs, to focus and work with the Fishing Camps up in the Bayous where the oil is going too. I would recommend checking this out.
I called them up and found out that they have been down in South Louisiana for the past week documenting and networking and that BP is still trying to get the fishers working on clean-up to sign off on Health Waivers. You have to understand that these Cajun Folk are already beginning to get sick from the oil toxins, really, neurological complicated painful headaches and lethargy, all the symptoms. And BP is still working the screw. They also want to keep paying them in Cash based on Tax-returns –and that screw gets even more too complicated for me (yet perhaps Not for one of you reading who matters and happens to be a ticked off environmental attorney).
Call them up and ask them about this. It really helps to know.
That’s all I’m saying. I rode Katrina and wasn’t confused about any of that. Mother Earth is not an Ambiguous Operation. However, Man-made Disaster is, because it is usually caused by preventable failure to pay attention due to base views of avarice and greed. But Earth Mother has unambiguously said “Fork You” on this.
Even if you can’t make it down to the scene of the crime, you can hang with it. I can’t get around very easily either, but my blog gets about 600 hits/day so I’m feeling pretty connected despite the obsession inherent in my PTSD from The Flood. I can’t help it.
You may not think that working your computer on this helps but it does.
We have to strengthen the Roots of our Net and you do that by Traveling those paths of roots… by Looking and Learning.
It is Exactly as Naomi Klein says about Shock Doctrine (which btw is what is going on now): Shock Wears Off and Information is the Cure.
Thanks again Rayne and the rest of’yaz.
And thanks youz tooz for dropping by the blog in such a posse. That is what it is: we need a Posse to comprehend then apprehend the Perps of this crime.
Editilla~New Orleans Ladder
D’OH! Somehow in the one and only “edit” this turned into a Dr Bronner’s label, and wouldn’t let me respace it back to a more coherent flow.
Sorry about that y’all. I usually don’t go scatological on this until trying to get to sleep at night –an increasingly difficult operation at 2.5 million gallons per day blowing out of our Mother’s Deepness.
Thanks again.
Thanks for the great suggestion and for reading all the way through.
If I can make a counter-suggestion: please consider writing a post about the May 30 event here in The Seminal, along with your personal observations about the Gulf and Louisiana. I think it’s really important that we hear as much as possible from the people most immediately affected by the spill.
Well Rayne, I would be honored to step into the Seminal, but alas, I won’t be at this Protest. That is part of my point in #15, in that: I’m doing what I can where I can but I can’t leave here any more than our Pelicans can leave their eggs in Barataria Bay. None us has a choice in this, so we can only do what we can reach. For some that might mean getting on a plane, train, bus or bicycle today. For others that might mean sticking by the Fire Dog Lake which is a pretty spankin’thang.
I left New Orleans on the seventh day of the Kafkatrina Flood after the Corps’ floodwalls failed, in a pick-up truck with my dog, guitar, back pack and bicycle, and went to ground on the long road home. But didn’t go far…
May I recommend that you contact the Editor of The Lens, Karen Gadbois.
Despite becoming nearly physically overwhelmed by grief at losing our Pelicans Sinn Féin, Editilla will have a bit to weigh in on this Protest however so we’ll see. If I swing something, we’ll send it in and if it fits you can wear it?
But do contact Mz Karen. She also blogs: Squandered Heritage when not out covering the fall of the Empire. I really like this person. She’s way on the ball with most of your suggestions already.
Thanks Youz,
Editilla~New Orleans Ladder
ps~and thanks, Rayne, for straightening up my comment! Whew!
no, I didn’t mean that at all, I meant someone like Obama or one of his group that can immdediately do something.
Oh I appreciate the opening! And I’m wit’you on it.
You are exactly right. As well, I believe Obama’s Fey Obtuseness is causing a comeuppance and congroovience amongst our body politic, at least here, which transcends party loyalty and mere ideological underpinnings.
As this BP Death expands, such frivolous drive-in bowel movements like the Tea Party mean nothing to the Lord of the Flies. His’O'ners vaunted Pragmatism will give way to Necessity and, while that may be the Mother of Invention, Camouflage will become the Art of Survival.
That said, I see “us” way’mo on da’Ball with this man-made disaster. Y’all have sharpened the edge to a quickening that I think could make the difference in whether this nation evolves through habit or novelty.
I’m betting on Novelty.
Your statement was the pin on my grenade, and pulled from me almost 2000 words at 6 in the morning, that is before coffee! Hope is the one of the few things that can get me like that, and such is the dog that hunts behind your horn.
Thanks youz,
Editilla~New Orleans Ladder
I have tried and tried to get someone off dead center! I was a enviromental scientist on the Valdez spill- and BP/fEDS just pushed my help to the side
this methodolgy would work-watch the video- beats peat and hay we used in Alaska
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZw_bs4WdA0
Could you share any of your experiences which might help our understanding of what works and what doesn’t with regards to oil spill clean up? You could post a diary at FDL’s affiliate site, The Seminal – I’m sure a lot of people would be interested in reading about your experiences on the Valdez spill.
Set up a wiki with some decent technical information: Pressures, flow rates, equipment used, schematics, simulations, working groups and their charters, etc.
The available information is hopelessly inadequate and disjointed. It is contributing to the chaos.
If we are going to have an informed discussion then we need to start being informed.
Seems that is one of the answers. All information should be made available to everyone now.
Agreed, Mary, camx has an excellent suggestion.
One of the big challenges to citizens who want to help is the inability to find relevant information in a single location. It’s mind-boggling how wide all information is spread and across so many disciplines. A wiki would be a great start, like the Flu-Wiki.
Cancelling the lease would get industry’s attention and perhaps prevent future worst case scenarios. Not likley to happen though. I have a suggestion for regulatory reform to increase the chance of real environmental review of the impacts of leasing and development (and thereby a recognition of the need for real capabilities to deal with worst case scenarios when they happen). Since virtually all regulatory agencies have been “captured” by the interests they regulate, quick reform of individual agencies is not likley (would require Legislative Branch approval and the interests are powerful enough to block any real reform). Since the agencies can’t be changed in the short run, existing requirements in the National Environmental Policy Act (and others) that require other agency review of major environmental documents could be re-emphasized in a way that requires other agencies not captured by the oil and gas industry to review the environmental documents and give some teeth to the requirements to pay attention to the other agency comments. This is not a solution to the problem at hand but more independant oversight of agency decision making processes might improve the outcomes.
Regarding:
5) Approach corporations to develop an X-Prize type program to develop a private solution in tandem with the skunkworks solution. Ask Congress to create a special R&D tax credit for firms which donate money to the X-Prize for development.
There is already a system designed as a fix for the social / behavior side of the problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0myV38dZq0
I have a couple of thoughts:
1. BP is not the only oil company drilling for oil in the world. It would be a good idea to ask the other companies for their expert opinions. Perhaps they would cover for BP…but they may well like the idea of a little competitive expertise. Has any oil company ever filed an “Emergency Plan”? What do they suggest? Can Shell, etc., be tapped for their deep water sea craft and expertise.This is a National/International emergency. If anyone wants to be in the oil business off of our coasts in the future, I suggests they help out now!
2. I am interested in the subject of cleanup. There was a previous post that asserted the chemical dispersants were all counterproductive, however the EPA wanted BP to use alternate “less toxic” dispersants. Here is a good overview about an emergency study:
Certainly the National guard would be thrilled for an assignment to actually helping this country in a disaster instead of killing innocents in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. They could help in clean up and/or distribution of dispersants after it is determined which if any are effective.
do you mind if I copy your ideas, and post them at climate progress?