
For the last several weeks there’s been an increasing number of posts which bash all manner of Democrats, from the president to the party itself and plead for alternatives. The anger driving this bashing is understandable since the country’s economy has floundered and promises made and values shared haven’t been kept under a Democratic president with a Democratic majority in Congress.
The anger also stems from disillusionment; after the great double-emotional high of the first person of color and Democrat winning the White House in 2008, there was the expectation that winning could continue, sustained in terms of legislative initiatives.
But unfortunately, much of this anger is poorly informed. There’s backstory which explains in part why we are here today. . . .
In 2003, Howard Dean began a run for the White House, as most folks are already well aware. For the first time in history a campaign utilized the internet for the purposes of organizing and for fundraising, tapping into a segment of the population which until this time had felt disenfranchised and disempowered. Quite literally the Dean for America campaign reminded citizens that they had the power to take their country back.
In spite of energizing a new group of first-time activists, the campaign’s inate flaws thwarted Dean from obtaining the Democratic nomination. Granted, it was not these flaws alone which resulted in John Kerry’s nomination; rather the Dean campaign’s limitations prevented other challenges from being surmountable.
Over the course of the next several months between the time Dean folded his bid for the White House and the disastrous 2004 election, the Dean campaign morphed. There was still a lot of latent energy demanding something more and better; the members had tasted some success if limited, still had the bit in their teeth. It became clear this was more than a presidential campaign but a movement born of people with shared values and goals. Dean for America became Democracy for America.
Almost immediately after the election, Howard Dean toured the country to meet with DFA supporters, to discuss next steps. It was clear that without drastic changes, the 2008 election would turn out as the 2004 election had, in the hands of the Republican Party to extend the same conservative policies. What were the options we had to turn this around? There were essentially three choices:
Option 1: Dean would run again for 2008;
Option 2: Dean would run as chair of the Democratic Party, to turn it around and fix the problems found during the 2004 election season;
Option 3: A third party would be formed to run a candidate in 2008.
Each of these choices was evaluated and feedback offered. Supporters were unstinting in their assessment of the limitations they’d experienced during 2003-2004. The pros and cons looked like this:
Option 1: Dean could only expect the same headwinds he faced during the 2004 election season. The party machine viewed him as an outsider, the local party apparatus was down at the heel and unprepared to support anybody but a machine candidate, and there existed no mechanism to pushback against the media’s conventional wisdom, nor could a single campaign pushback against the money behind conservative candidates and issues.
Option 2: Dean could not run for the White House in 2008 if he accepted this option, but then without an improved Democratic Party, no Democratic candidate would win in 2008. The party’s infrastructure was rotted out from neglect and could not deliver a win.
Option 3: The numbers simply weren’t there. For a third party candidate to win, they would have to muster against the other two parties, drawing down from both. In 2004 nearly 50% of the population identified as conservative, making it highly unlikely that a third party could reach critical mass. Frankly, a third party would have to subsume the Democratic Party’s numbers to win.
It was clear that there was only one way to assure that a candidate on the left could win in 2008 — and that was to take back the Democratic Party and install Dean as its chair.
Mind you, this was not the only topic covered at these meetings. It had become entirely clear to Dean and his supporters that the conservatives’ death grip on government was because they ensured conservatives would run for every single seat from top to bottom of the political food chain, from the presidency to local dog catcher. It had also become clear that the Democratic Party needed to be reinvigorated with fresh blood in order to win a 21st century campaign; without an infusion, they would continue to do what they’d done all along, relying on traditional constituencies to vote for them by default, mustering only tepid old school techniques to get out the vote while the opposition used every possible means to get their voters out. Quite literally the left was up against people who felt no shame in organizing at churches every week and busing church-goers to the polls. The left had no such institution for getting out the vote.
These things were all entwined and interrelated, too. Without becoming more active in the local Democratic Party, Dean would stand no chance at becoming chair. Without becoming more active in the local party, the same numbers would defeat candidates running for all manner of office.
In 2004, the former Deaniacs began their takeover of the party from within. Dean became Democratic Party chair in early 2005, upsetting the party machine which had planned to hand down a name to the rank-and-file and expect them to ratify them as chair instead. (Democratic operative James Carville was quoted as angrily demanding, "Why didn’t somebody fix this thing?" when it became clear the grassroots activists within the party were pushing hard for the upstart Dean.)
During 2005 the Dem’s infrastructure was rejuvenated under Dean’s guidance; the Democratic wave of 2006 when the party took a majority in Congress was due in no small part to the early efforts of the takeover.
Under Dean the party worked on a new strategy, to leave no seat uncontested, to leave no voter untapped. The 50-State Strategy was implemented to increase the numbers of Democratic voters incrementally across every precinct, in order to win in 2008.
You know the rest of the story; the Obama campaign was able to use the same techniques scaled up to organize and increase turn out, informed by the earlier work of Deaniacs who’d worked together so earnestly in 2003-2004 to take back the country.
And now, a postmortem…this is where the wheels came off, and the rest of why we are where we are today.
First, tradition damaged the gains made between 2004 and 2008. It is tradition that a Democratic president is able to name a new Democratic Party chair. It’s not an appointment per se, but the party respects the wishes of the president and defers to them and generally approves a new chair selected by the president. Hence Tim Kaine, whom many Dems identify as a moderate, ended up as chair.
Second, the open hostility the president’s chief of staff Rahm Emanuel has for Howard Dean meant that Dean would be marginalized during the Obama administration. There was no way that Dean, even after all his work to ensure a Democratic presidency, would be realistically considered for any role in the White House’s team let alone permitted to be party chair to continue the work of moving the party towards a progressive majority. (The marginalization continues to this day; links to Dean’s 50-State Strategy have been excised from the Democratic Party website.)
Third, the fruits of the work done by the progressives within the Democratic Party were co-opted at every turn, while placing a thin number of elected progressives in compromising position. There were not enough progressives elected during 2006 and 2008 to assure a solid voting block which could hold together; there was not a progressive leader within their ranks who could leverage progressives’ numbers to force the remaining Democratic electeds to hold their ground. This left the progressives drifting and at risk of being used by other stronger forces within the party. At the same time, co-option also whittled away at moderates, encouraging them to make choices which pushed them ever more to the right while alienating the left.
Fourth, the failure of the White House, the former Obama for American campaign leadership and the new party chair to give new and effective marching orders to the campaign’s supporters left a mass of first-time activists and voters adrift without goals at a time when the economy was savaging their spirits. These neophytes had little institutional memory to help them find their way; they drifted off and now have personal needs which occupy them, not having been called to serve a higher cause like developing our democracy. Organizing for America — the entity which emerged from the Obama for America campaign — did not begin to work on a cohesive national goal across its remaining membership to focus on health care reform until September last year, at a point when the handwriting was already on the wall for health care reform, after the White House had already compromised itself in making deals with Big Pharma, after the Tea Party had already done considerable damage during August at town hall meetings.
Fifth, there remains an insufficiency of institutional memory combined with strong organizing skills. There are not enough folks within the ranks of progressives within the Democratic Party who can wield institutional memory with organizing as a cudgel to move the party. Many of the newer progressive candidates and electeds operate in isolation, without adequate network or other infrastructure to ensure they stay together and to ensure they are leveraging knowledge towards the same goals. There is a corresponding lack of institution — far too much of the left continues to rely on virtual organization, which cannot replace organizing on the ground, cannot compete against conservatives who organize at church and bus their voters to the polls.
Lastly, the rest of the left which did not identify as Democratic has not been organized. It has changed very little since 2004 except that it has a few more internet-based bells and whistles. Its proponents still have no plan to develop a critical mass across folks who identify as left on the political spectrum. It talks a lot; it does less.
And that’s how we’ve found ourselves in this sad state, marginalized by the people we elected to office and referred to pejoratively as the "fucking retarded" "professional left," our hands bitten by the dogs we’ve reared and fed.
There’s much, much more to be said. Watch for the next part of this series.
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147 Comments




Yep. Thanks for the overview–very useful.
I remember a CSPAN-televised event where Joe Trippi spoke, very early after the Obama victory. He was literally salivating at what OFA could be as a political force. It’s probably up on the toobz somewhere. He saw congressional phone banks overloaded to freezing by millions of OFA callers, on all sorts of progressive policy issues. OFA just dwarfed the Dean effort (although he did take some credit for the concept)and Trippi was in awe of it.
As you say, it never happened–and I specifically blame fucking Rahm and his staff for that.
The media was very complicit in torpedoing the Dean campaign, making a grand production over the non-story of an exhausted candidate acting a little goofy after a primary. And not a single Democrat really came to his defense.
Yup. Ask yourself who came up with Tim Kaine as a candidate for party chair.
He was a relative unknown to most of us out here in flyover country.
Hello, machine politics.
Backstabbers par excellence; they eat their young.
I still have copies of Dean’s scream remixed with Ozzie Osborne’s Crazy Train, though, I still love that.
Thanks Rayne,
Nice lunch reading and the postmortem you laid out is great. I would also urge everyone to check out cbl2′s link in comment 4 at:
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/71816
A additional historical perspective along with yours to help us focus on defining the next steps we need to take and get over some of the self-pitying and anger which I’ve perceived here at the Lake. Letting it all out is not a bad thing, don’t get me wrong, but what do I do next is always my question for myself.
I think it’s really important to keep in mind that a lot of the self-pity and anger is not universally shared, or at least the anger isn’t uniformly directed at the same targets.
I’m furious, but you’ll see that in a post to come, and the target isn’t the one we’ve seen addressed frequently.
The “lastly” one is an oversimplification, and i’m sure you’re aware of that.
Non-Dem lefties ( like me ) affiliated ourselves with the Dems in 08 in order to push Obama over the top. We capitulated to the requests of D’s to vote for them in order to ensure the beatings ( figurative ) stopped. We did similar in 04 with Kerry, despite his being about as exciting to left wingers as a nasty venereal disease. This is where the pivot has occurred however. Usually, when we DO capitulate, we are greeted with a not so bad Dem term which tends to sap motivation for finding a party that truly does represent our views. Now, we’re left mortified by the current administration ( keep in mind, we’re left of you…so what you view as mildy crappy to crappy is beyond the pale for us ) which has stiffened our resolve to find alternatives to the D’s, who could only ever hope to not piss us off too much when it came to policy ( since Carter, anyway ). This happened to a lesser degree with Clinton, and was a large contributing factor to the Nader vote. The current administration is Clinton on steriods.
Expect the left’s organizing to continue until policy improves.
I think you assume wrongly that you are to the left of me, which colors all your other assumptions.
And the “lastly” may be an oversimplification, but it’s accurate. I’ll be getting to that in a future post.
Everything reported above makes sense as a historical record. Missing is how the WH has allowed party moral to degenerate to where it stands now.
They seem to have completely mis evaluated the economy.
The persistent flirtation with bi-partisanship achieved nothing except to undermine their (presumed)legislative agenda.
Did they honestly believe that people would love them for an HCR effort that has produced no tangible benefit for the vast majority of people even as their out-of-pocket costs continue to skyrocket?
Did they really not see this coming? Or do they just not care?
“The current administration is Clinton on steriods.”
Clinton hogtied himself by getting caught literally with his pants down. This administration has no comparable excuse.
That’s the black box into which we can’t see. All we have to operate on are the insults they have flung at us time and time again, combined with their actions which are in contravention to many factions of the base. We can only assume based on these that they choose not to govern as they have been asked by their constituent voters.
Some believe this is a “captured” presidency, one which operates to the designs of forces which do not coincide with the popular will of the people which legitimized its authority to govern. Assuming it’s a “captured” presidency, the only question is whether the president is a willing or unwilling party to the capture.
You tell me, because I can’t see into the black box.
“…I can’t see into the black box.”
Neither can I and people smarter than me with more access are as clueless as we are.
Great overview, Rayne… I remember those times well and how involved you were becoming in local and state politics at the time.
Erm, willing. Seems pretty darn obvious.
The appointments, the tone from O’s staff, the bipartisan fetish…
But now we are back in Bush territory. Is O a) stupid and incompetent; b) evil and competent; c) stupid and competent; or d) evil and incompetent?
I’m a firm believer in semi-socialism ( private enterprise with govn’t run corporations for certain key industries, i support welfare models implemented in Canada or the U.K. etc ). I’m considered leftish in Canada ( NDP ) and the U.K. ( old Labour ). If you’re down with that, then I apologize for presuming.
I look forward to you expanding on the ‘lastly’ then.
Is it as easy as simply saying “willing”? Are you willing if you’ve been threatened? I don’t think you can forget the kind of psychotic freaks who ran the last administration or the kinds of left-behinds they still have weaseled deeply into every nook and cranny.
That’s what really bugs me, that there’s the possibility he’s willingly captured, that he’s literally hostage, or any number of a bunch of permutations in between.
Thanks, Karen. Yeah, and I’m still up to my eyeballs in it, just taking a lower profile this term and working on finite, specific goals.
what an excellent chronological recap. I am completely skeptical of the DNC and Occam’s Razor makes sense – the Deaniacs were the TeaPartiers of the Democratic Party and are of course completely used and abused to keep the political machie well-oiled. The Tea Party better watch out – the Ron Paul supporters are going to lose it to the likes of Palin and Beck.
I’m unclear on what you are suggesting, here. Do you think it is possible that O is a real progressive but he has been threatened in some way by the psychotic freaks of the previous administration?
Great analysis; this bit in particular struck me as essential.
However, one of the things that increasingly stupifies me is how economically illiterate the GOP is — they literally have no clue how the economy could be retooled. None. The modern, post-Reagan GOP believe that ‘capital’ lies at the core of all wealth creation, they revere wealth, and their economic analyses are inept.
I’ve said it before, and I’m saying it again: the GOP does not recognize the problem of ‘public goods’. They understand ONLY things that have market solutions.
But many things — and increasingly, with resource scarcity — important things (clean air, clean water, civil society) do not lend themselves to ‘market’ solutions.
In other words, the GOP has no future.
Demographically, it has no future.
Economically, it’s only future is as handmaiden for oligarchs; US and otherwise (see also: Scheunemann, Randy; Palin, Sarah).
For the Dems to fail in utterly demolishing the GOP this election is almost irresponsible. Yet the old hangers-on, who still buy into all the bogus economic assumptions of the old GOP and outdated Democratic ‘centrism’ continue to choke the life out of American politics.
If you want ‘Exhibit A’, listen to Tweety interupt his guests and rattle on about a political ‘spectrum’ that’s about the size of a dime, and premised on Dem-Rep axis.
I don’t know what the solutions are, but I do believe that you have a terrific analysis here.
At this point, Obama’s economic advisors and assumptions are not only paralyzing his progress, but they play straight into GOP hands because they all share the same underlying, outdated, bogus economic assumptions.
When I look at the best progressive candidates that I’ve seen, all of them understand that the problem of public goods has been ignored, or deliberately sabotaged, for at least a generation. Without new economic paradigms, the Dems are a complete waste of time at this point.
The GOP, OTOH, is utterly hopeless, debased, and rotted entirely.
We already are a mixed economy; the challenge with the model in the U.S. is the constant dynamic tension between more or less government-control or government-ownership of resources and businesses. There are challenges with every one of the mixed economy models out there. The trick is finding a sweet spot in which innovation and entrepreneurship are rewarded, while the least able are assured a safety net and the means to conduct personal and private business are secure.
Our biggest challenge at the moment isn’t the economic mix; it’s the media and its excessive consolidation, combined with the flawed rationale that money is the same as political speech and cannot be regulated. If we can assure that every voter — not synthetic non-human organizations — has the right to speech, and that every commons of speech must serve the greater public interest, we can have a more open dialog about the kinds of investments we make as individuals or as an aggregate through our government. Until we remedy this, economic mix is owned by those with capital and argument about it is pissing into the wind.
I take offense at your suggestion that Deaniacs were used and abused to keep the machine oiled.
We’re still in a fight for the soul of the party; it took us five of the last seven years to finally kick the old machine to the curb here in my county, and I know the battle continues elsewhere.
I personally submitted for review the resolution to demand and support the public option at three local party entities — all of which passed on unanimous basis, to the consternation of a congressional representative’s office. This wasn’t done across the entire country, and is an example of the kind of continuing opportunity and fight which former Deaniacs need to continue.
I’m not making a suggestion; I’m saying there are a lot of potential reasons why we see some unwelcome and unhappy results out of the White House.
Can you rule it out? I can’t.
I could rule out more if Rahm Emanuel’s ass lit out for Chicago.
The GOP as you see it now is a puppet of corporate interests. It’s more nakedly exposed with the Kochs’ funding of the Tea Party, but corporations and their owners/leaders have been funding the GOP for the last 30 years. The corporations aligned their economic interests with those of social conservatives in order to create critical mass. Christian entities were co-opted to encourage a solid base of voters — with their social issues entwined so tightly with corporate money, they were voting on behalf of corporate interests.
The left hasn’t been able to muster corporate money because they don’t represent corporate interests. As proponents of personal freedom they also don’t inveigle themselves into their constituents’ religious affiliations, so they lose access to an organizing institution. And they didn’t see that they would have to find alternatives to plug in as substitutes for these functions. For example: can you think of a lefty organization which has a meeting every week where you can go and share your values and make plans to work on issues together, pooling resources to assure goal achievement in the way that Christian churches do?
Hammer, meet nail:
Precisely. Absolutely.
You’ve got a bull’s eye.
Only part of the thing that concerns me: people catching on to the GOP being funded by ‘corporate’ interests still have the comforting illusion that this somehow means ‘American’ shareholders.
They need to wake up.
WTF is the press when a guy as insidious as Randy Scheunemann is pimping Palin’s political so-called ‘career’. Who owns Fox? What are the ownership shares? Murdock is an Aussie, and one of the largest shareholders is a sheik.
I don’t want to raise the Paranoia Level any higher than it already is, but at the same time, some of the Palinites really need to get a clue about the forces that are using them for profit.
Just imagine if there were social networks, social groups, that were educating people about these topics at monthly meetings; sort of a Book Discussion Group, cum political activist twist, eh?
Without more, better information, the old Dem party may as well eat dust. If people don’t have a better way of grasping key concepts and relating them to one another — which is what the Christian Moral Majority achieved in a very self-defeating fashion in terms of their own economic interests — then the party is headed for the dustbin.
The thing about blogs — well, one of the things — is the chance of sustained argument and education; the ‘layering’ of issues.
BTW: the Guardian has a new Global Development section now up (partnering with the Gates Fdn). Just imagine how much shared information, and shared discussion, and shared knowledge, and shared ideas that one single effort has the potential to produce.
It’s the chance for coherence, for explaining and teaching, that I see as critical at this point. Government is complicated, like the rest of life. Sound bites are a disastrous approach for helping anyone understand enough to take meaningful, productive action IMVHO.
I’m intrigued with your forthcoming diaries on the topic you’ve begun to develop.
You lost me here.
You’re asserting that the Democratic Party was all but certain to lose the 2008 election-cycle without the intervention you later describe? Really? How is that possible?
Republican approval ratings were down in the shitter so far that you couldn’t reach them with a toilet-auger. It seemed entirely inevitable that the Democratic Party could have run barn yard animals on every ticket around the country, and still clobbered Republicans. Hell, the might have even picked up some rural seats in Red States.
Nathan, I’m going to guess you weren’t actively involved day-to-day in a campaign for any Democratic candidate in 2003-2004. If you were, you’d know how dysfunctional the party was at the time and how easily a candidate like McCain could have won without a stronger Democratic Party.
The party as it existed in 2004 could not have stood up against another Republican in 2008. There was an incredible amount of work done in the period between 2004 and 2008 to restore the party. Without that work, McCain could have eaten a live baby on camera and won, simply because he wasn’t Bush.
And no, the Democratic Party couldn’t have run barn animals in rural red areas. That’s hyperbole which tips off how much you don’t know about the facts on the ground. You ought to go back and read through Nate Silver’s 538 site to revisit the facts.
I’m still working on that locally, have three meetings out of four weeks, still could use a fourth meeting.
But there isn’t something like this nationally. We very much need it. Just read Robert Putnam’s “Bowling Alone” to see what the lack of such community entities has done to our culture, let alone what it’s done to our ability to create a progressive movement.
I don’t see a lot of difference between the anger being shown (in my case it’s corporate fascism and the dem’s are as bought and owned as the Gooopers) and your back story!
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I don’t think MY anger is misinformed, at all.
Love your timeline recap, it’s a keeper bookmarked for future reference when needed as I don’t have the recall ability others do. I have to reread stuff! lol
I’m greatly interested to see what’s to come, also. And now we know more about you, too!!!
As to Dean? He was neutered, neutralized, rended impotent by the system, which is corporate owned and refuses the Dean’s of our proggy desires every time. And they control it all, the judicial, the political, and the social systems.
As you suggest at times, it leaves we the people without much recourse.
And I don’t think improving things at the local level is possible but in certain circumstances in certain locations, that’s the depth of control the corporate fascism has on our entirety.
The Dem’s are as bad as the GOP, owned and operated by the same MOTU’s. The only difference is a faux cosmetic, bandied about to appear as if Dem’s are more social and compassionate and open and equality driven. And that’s a faux lie, all the way. The Dem Party is owned and operated, top to bottom, by the Koch’s, and the corporate structure.
Ergo, there really IS no recourse for we the people other than massive protests, boycotts, strikes and all that will lead to violence.
And in the end, I maintain yet again, it’s all unsustainable as it is, it WILL come crashing down, and even the 1% corporate fascists will feel the hurt one way or another.
Can’t wait for your next installment! This is edge of the seat stuff, Rayne, thanks!
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Rcc’d, of course!!!
Great post, Rayne! I’d like to see Dean challenge Obama in the next Primaries. Obama has become so unpopular — the base so disillusioned — that Dean might actually have a chance.
Do you believe Dean would ever seriously consider running again, or after being chair of the Democratic Party is he now mostly resigned to just fighting from the sidelines?
You’ve done the easy part. Ask yourself why your post is in the Seminal rather than the main area. Who decides? If we are to use the internet to its fullest we need a different kind of community and a different format for this blog.
I hate to say I told you so, and I truly do, but I said the public option was lost when the effort here was on whips and phone calls. Jane was also disappointed. When she introduced her fund raiser, she said she thought working through the democrats was futile. I agreed with that then and I agree now. Analyzing why the public option campaign failed will be helpful, just as I don’t think your local efforts will accomplish much. Something is not always better than nothing. Sometimes they are the same thing.
I’d be interested to see your proposals for changing our political reality. Right now 2012 is shaping up as more of the same.
Close, but no cigar.
First, it really wasn’t “the campaign’s inate flaws” that “thwarted Dean from obtaining the Democratic nomination” – rather, it was a coordinated attack orchestrated over at least 7 months by several cooperating groups.
1. Internal maneuvering by the DLC against Dean’s goal of ‘taking back the party’ is already in full swing by July of 2003, as several leaked memos revealed.
2. It escalates at the end of summer with the introduction of Clark (the ‘anti-Dean’) to divide the anti-war faction.
3. Other candidates begin attacks on Dean as the Fall campaigns progress (this in itself would have just been politics as usual had it not been coordinated with the other activities).
4. After Dean’s November comment about breaking up the largest media conglomerates they manufacture the ‘electability issue’ (not that they had been wild about him earlier after he had flayed them for having been Bush’s accomplices in the run-up to Iraq).
5. November is also the birth date of “Americans for Jobs & Healthcare” (a 527 organization eventually discovered to be connected not only with Dick Gephardt but with Kerry, Bill Clinton, Terry McAuliffe, and the DNC, funded by Kerry supporter Robert Torricelli, and fronted, incidentally, by Robert Gibbs), which ran ads flaying Dean from then through Iowa.
6. Seeing Kerry as their man (Clark merely having been a tactical maneuver) a large group of influential journalists gather on December 11th in Al Franken’s home in NYC to foster a resurrection of Kerry’s floundering campaign: Jonathan Alter (Newsweek), Eric Alterman (The Nation, MSNBC), Fred Kaplan (Slate), Richard Cohen (Washington Post), Edward Jay Epstein, Howard Fineman (Newsweek), Jeff Greenfield (CNN), Philip Gourevitch (The New Yorker), Rick Hertzberg (The New Yorker), Jim Kelly (Time), William Rivers Pitt, David Remnick (The New Yorker), Frank Rich (The New York Times), Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., Art Spiegelman, Calvin Trillin, and Jacob Weisberg (Slate). Remarkably, no one seems to see this as any kind of conflict of interest for the journalists.
7. December is also when the Club for Growth anti-Dean ads begin. CfG was a Republican affiliate and may have been the one participant in this pig-pile acting relatively independently of the Democratic establishment.
8. Busy month, December: Lieberman, Gephardt, and Kerry double down on the attacks; the press and the candidates have a field day with Dean’s off-the-cuff (but entirely accurate) comment that the capture of Saddam really didn’t make us any safer.
9. Then come the dirty tricks by multiple candidates in Iowa (Kerry’s campaign alone organized fake robo calls, misdirected Dean supporters, and stuck Confederate flags on cars with Dean stickers). Plus major media reporting bias against Dean and for the other major candidates (as reported by the Center for Media and Public Affairs).
10. And, of course, the manufactured scream.
So yes, the campaign had its flaws. But it was, by far, the strongest campaign run that season: the only reason it failed was because of the immense forces arrayed against it – mostly by Dean’s own party establishment.
Second, the Deaniacs never “began their takeover of the party from within” after Kerry lost in November – all they did was take advantage of the fact that no one expected a serious grassroots effort aimed at the party Chairmanship and thus they developed sufficient momentum to help place Dean in that position before anyone could move effectively against them. Remember, however, that at the end, the position was only given to him on the condition that he keep his mouth shut and let the establishment set policy: he was tolerated as a draft horse to pull the party out of its functional campaigning incompetence, not as any kind of leader.
During this trip down memory lane I stumbled across something I wrote in early 2004. See if it rings any bells:
Since a lot of the Kerry supporters around here have gotten pretty hysterical, it’s time to address them directly, in simple words that they just might be able to understand.
Barring an act of God or a massive Botox overdose, John Kerry will be the Democratic nominee facing George Bush in November. And there’s no indication that any third-party candidate has any chance at all of winning the presidency this year, unless Howard should bolt (and he clearly won’t).
So the first question is, what are you so upset about? It’s not as if you were still fervently fighting to get ‘your guy’ nominated: that’s already in the bag. And it’s not as if a few percent more supporters would be a make-or-break deal in terms of fund-raising or other support between now and November 2nd.
The *only* reasonable concern is that those of us who won’t lend our support to Kerry right now might not be willing to vote for Kerry in November. But the more you alienate us now, the more likely that becomes – whereas respecting the reasons why we won’t support Kerry now would at least improve your chances of getting us to pay some attention to you when it actually counts.
Myself, I suspect that you’re terrified that the reasons we don’t support Kerry are good enough to convince others who are yet undecided. And, of course, I think that you have eminent cause for concern in that area. But if you actually open your eyes and look around, you’ll observe that *we’re* not the evangelical ones here: 90% of the diatribes come from your side, and we mostly just stand up to them because we’re not sheeple and have no intention of becoming so.
The real bottom line, however, is that you’re doing Kerry, and the party, a disservice. Because the more they don’t believe that they have to change to win, the less likely a victory in November becomes.
Kerry trolls might be expected to dispute this, but actual Dean supporters know it in their hearts. Because Howard knew it, and said it – many times: “once you are willing to say whatever it takes to win, you lose” ( http://rutlandherald.com/hdean/63125 ). The DLC is already trumpeting the need to move to the right and ignore the base because they’ll have nowhere else to go, sounding pretty much like neocons when they belittle much of what Howard and Paul Wellstone before him called the Democratic wing of the Democratic party ( http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=131&subid=192&contentid=252442 ): is it really any wonder that some of us consider such cretins within our own party to be more of a long-term danger than Bush, whose party we will be able to remove from power in the first election after our own party becomes worth supporting again?
If you’re a real Dean supporter who is now convinced that supporting Kerry is the logical continuation of Howard’s principles, you *really* need to go back and listen to “the speech that started it all” to the DNC on February 21, 2003 ( http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/cg/index.html?type=page&pagename=audio_video_archive , near the bottom). Howard’s “What I want to know…” list wasn’t about replacing Bush, but about changing the party and though that changing the country. He even stated outright that winning wasn’t his primary goal, change was.
Well, the party hasn’t changed – yet. And supporting Kerry right now gives the party no motivation to change. And Howard was right in suggesting that running Kerry as ‘Bush-lite’ against Bush is not a promising strategy: Kerry offers the unattractive combination of many of Bush’s ‘politics-as-usual’ inside-the-beltway special-interest-dominated allegiances, a recent history of slavishness to demented Bush policies, a spine as flexible as a snake’s, and a 20-year Senate voting record slightly to the left of Ted Kennedy’s (so the part of Kerry that *isn’t* Bush-lite is a part that the majority of the American electorate doesn’t seem to care for very much) – what’s not to love?
Howard understood that the way to win next November is not to ‘move to the right’ (or to the left, or up, down, or sideways): it’s to stand up for the things that voters *want*, regardless of ideology and short-term spin. It’s to be willing to educate and lead, rather than pander and follow. It’s to offer a real, and compelling, choice, rather than simply try to slice-and-dice the half of the electorate that bothers to vote at all to gerrymander a marginal electoral win – if you’re lucky.
Howard isn’t going to be able to apply that philosophy this year. But Kerry could, if we hold a gun to his head. And that gun is our support: use it, or lose it.
Otherwise, it’s likely four more years of Dubya, and we get to try to rescue the party (and the country) next in 2006, when an off-year election will make getting the sheeple’s attention that much more difficult. And even if Kerry *does* eke out a win without radical party reform, those of us who believe that such change is imperative still lose – possibly even more than if Kerry had lost.
*We’re* not your problem, folks: Kerry and the party are. Do you still want real change? Do you want to win enough to force Kerry into becoming a nominee who actually deserves to, rather than just passively vote for him and then say, “Well, we tried”?
- bill
I think the mistake Dean made with regards to the mosque seriously hurt his personal base. I don’t know what it’s going to take to rehab his standing.
He’d also had some difficulty with clarity during the health care reform process. I have wondered how much he struggled with trying to be supportive of the reform effort while trying to push it in the right direction. In the end I don’t know that he was able to stay true to his own values, which is a pity. I’d originally supported Dean because of his position on the Iraq War and because he was able as governor to establish a public health care system for every child and every senior in his state while maintaining a balanced budget; that’s what I wanted at scale for the rest of the country.
I doubt he’d primary Obama; he’d have to divide the Democratic base and he’d have to fight headwinds against conservatives after a bruising internecine war. He’s pragmatic enough to realize it wouldn’t work.
Dude, I’m an assistant editor at Firedoglake and editor here at The Seminal. I could push for it at FDL’s front page, but frankly, I’m in no mood to deal with it at the moment. I’m having a hard enough time dealing with my rage and frustration about the state of affairs for progressives quietly here in the back end. I’m not going let myself go nuclear on the front page of FDL; sometimes working in the back end is far more effective.
Fantastic post, much to weigh and to digest.
I think a lot of the dark mood of late is rooted in a sad feeling of disbelief that things could go so wrong after what seemed to be such a spectacular victory.
There is a strong temptation to despair that closely accompanies the confusion, so the same light that you shine on the confusion, also has the effect of renewing hope.
Thank you.
You could have saved yourself the time and stopped with this:
The fact that Dean and the campaign could not foresee that the machine would undermine him so badly in so many ways was an innate flaw. We grappled with that in November of 2004 when we had that discussion. Without taking the party back from the machine, they would do it again AND they’d screw their chances at winning 2008.
The rest is redundant.
There’s always hope. The question is whether there is commitment.
And I’ll get to that in a subsequent post.
Could you please point me in the direction of any more information on this meeting?
Does this mean that Franken is not really the heir to Wellstones legacy, but just another third-way operative?
I guess I could have saved the time if I agreed with you. Since I don’t, I consider the time to have been well-spent.
To put it another way, if you consider that failure BY DEFINITION implies flaw, regardless of the external circumstances, then I can see your point (though I still don’t agree with it: it’s far too tautological for my taste).
That’s right, his ridiculous position on the mosque was pretty unforgivable, now that I think about it. I watched Glenn Greenwald disembowel him on that issue (in a video interview).
What was he thinking? Dean couldn’t possibly believe what he was spewing …
I worked for the campaign at grassroots level. After nearly 7 years of activism, I can see that we knew jack shit about organizing and campaigning let alone the hostile, closed nature of the party machine and we should have — could have — gotten help from friendly sources who already knew what we were up against (there were sources).
That was a failure and a flaw.
Look at the stunned disbelief with which so many of Dean’s diehard supporters greeted his statement about the Park51 project. It seemed so out of character for him that I can’t help but wonder what the hell else was going on.
Was this a manifestation of the capture process — compromised on key values in order to effect other action? who knows? It was completely unsettling and unacceptable.
I did not say that the campaign was flawless – merely that these flaws were not the reason it failed. It is difficult to imagine how ANY help of the form that you describe (or any different campaign strategy, other than capitulation) could have made it succeed given the resources arrayed against it, any more than Gore’s endorsement did – unless Dean had been willing to run as a third-party candidate (which he never had any intention of doing).
The most that could have happened would have been that Dean could have made it extremely difficult for the eventual nominee rather than supporting him. As it was, Kerry had to destroy his own campaign, and Dean remained Dean (though many of his followers lost their way).
Oh come on. Nobody cuts his teeth in the pork grinder of Chicago politics and comes out naive or unwilling to play establishment politics. Obama is an arrogant, self serving pol who long ago went to the dark side. He deserves no credit, none. He got his place in history and a ticket to easy street.
Is he somehow salvageable as a man of the people? Not without some transforming personal hardship such as polio. He will go down in history as Mr. Wonderful and that’s what he wanted.
A couple of things Franken has recently (since being elected) said and done have left me considerably less than enthused, but I had forgotten this historical act of his. Third way operative? Maybe not, but certainly an establishment collaborator when needed (which of course we already knew after the health-care fiasco had played out).
Interestingly, I can’t find my original source of this information on the Web any more. The original article by Pitt is at http://www.truth-out.org/article/william-rivers-pitt-the-trial-john-kerry and Alterman’s own article is at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3615734 (both of which indicate that I got the date wrong by a week or so), but (obviously) contain no mention of Alterman’s alleged disillusionment shortly thereafter with what had transpired there when Kerry pontificated belligerently while commenting upon Saddam’s capture.
Getting people to agree on such things as the color to paint a house is a fairly neat trick. Getting them to agree on the future path for progressives, a much neater trick. You say Dean won’t run. I agree. For one thing he sacrificed character for ambition. That’s the only way to explain his stand on health care and the mosque. I don’t think anyone, including Hillary, is about to primary Obama. That narrows things substantially.
Still when you seem to say getting this discussion on the front burner may take an argument you presently have no stomach for, you come close to putting your finger on a major problem. We have to come to terms with ourselves somehow before we can move on to larger things.
I can tell you conclusively that putting my post on the front page of FDL will not change what is fundamentally wrong with democracy in this country, let alone what is wrong with progressives.
Frankly, the answer isn’t going to be found on a website or blog. I learned that the hard way over the last seven years.
Oh, dear – as I was continuing to sift through old Dean-related memorabilia I came across a quote that I attributed to Franken at the time: “the Democratic Leadership Council is a moral force for good” (and you can still see the actual source at http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/21/magazine/21FRANKEN.html).
Not exactly Wellstone, I’d say – but probably not a typical DLC type either. I’d not have a problem kicking him out with the rest if that’s what it took, but I guess he wouldn’t be my first target (which is, of course, damning with rather faint praise).
Hoo-boy. I can find a mess of campaign consultants who’d beg to differ.
Dean only had experience as a governor in a tiny state. He and his campaign team had no depth of knowledge about running for a national seat, didn’t have the knowledge of national party nor the national media he badly needed. Wouldn’t have mattered if he ran as third party or major party, he was hurting for institutional knowledge.
We’ll simply agree to disagree on followers losing their way.
I think that is very smart….we have a mess. I will always be glad Obama broke the color barrier for the Pres…clearly he had the gifts to do that. Gets way more complicated after that, doesn’t it?
MHO is the system pushed Dean out of the spotlight. The system will NOT allow Dean back INTO the spotlight.
I don’t believe the system will allow any serious primary challenge in ’12.
Look at the last Primary. One by one, all the voices were silenced. The debates were a sham when only HRC and Obama for the most part, got the majority of time and attention from the moderators.
THIS primary for ’12 the system will screen out any Kuch’s, or Richardson’s, or Edwards’.
The system is quite resilient to change, and is very potent.
Airplanes crash and car brakes fail.
The system is very potent.
That’s one hell of a recap there, Bill, thanks.
Between you AND Rayne, I believe the full picture emerges to remind us that Dean was beat out of the system by a concerted effort from the status quo.
And that’s in part, how the system works to keep any outsiders or changey people from participating with any real impact.
The other part is the implicit threat that planes fall from the sky kind of persuasion.
I find your insider info you are sharing absolutely fascinating. I hope you’ll continue to share more and more of what you’ve been thru and done WRT the Dean Campaign, and in general about political organizing.
You can’t BUY these kinds of insights.
Thank you.
Yes, it’s incredibly difficult. It’s strained conversations with so many of my progressive friends because things have changed. Some are clinging to the Obama they thought they elected, others are fully aware that he’s compromised (although many of these folks went into this with their eyes open).
There is a very simple response to this, though; we need to get back to basics. I’ll get into that in a future post.
Yeah, I know, believe me there have been eye-popping learning opportunities all along the way — and I had the very same thought.
You can’t buy these insights.
Unfortunately, they do come with a price.
If only folks who enjoy the scheming and strategizing of reality television programs so much realized they could LIVE this stuff every day just by getting engaged. I feel like I’ve been completely immersed in a soap opera, except that unlike a soap opera, the stakes are high and impact my life directly.
I agree. Whether something is on the front page or seminal it has a half life of around a day. This discussion should have an indefinite life and it needs to be organized in such a way as to separate more important observations-wikipedia comes to mind where we cooperate to build a data base.
The answer is not a blog or website, it is a network. Building one will go against many grains because we are addicted to hierarchy.
You think YOU can speak for “angry left” Rayne?
Are you funning us, Rayne?
You detest the angry left.
You want the angry left off Fire Dog Lake! You’re said you want the angry left off FDL on threads 5 or 6 times.
So, Rayne, just out of curiousity, how do we go about retaking the Dem party, starting at the local level?
I live in dirtbag Jane Harman’s district. There’s a local Democratic Club, but I haven’t got a clue whether it is actually part of the state party apparatus or just a group of party loyalist yay-hoos. (Judging by the one guy I know who’s a member, I’m pretty sure it’s full of Obamabots and Dems-forever-regardless-of-policy types.)
Rayne… you need to stop insulting members of the “angry left” before you can lead the angry left.
What are you talking about?
I’m talking about Rayne and you and couple others pile-on of personal insults trying chase a fat chunk of the angry left right off Fire Dog Lake.
The ‘we’ referenced in the title and throughout needs to be replaced with nouns and pronouns that reference the Democratic party.
If the diary is to be consistent with the title, one really needs to go to the entrenchment of the two party system and the founding fathers warnings about political parties.
Hmm, there is a disconnect in my opinion between the evidence presented and the theory of why it happened here. What you describe is probably an accurate account of the democravens behavior in 2004 and 2008. But it does not follow that what you describe was/is the only possible outcome, which is how you present it, i.e. that the only option available to we on the left were/are the one’s chosen, one elite or another to make it through the democraven apparatus. I think you are excessively pessimistic about a third party strategy, for example. I concur with some other comments here that it sounds like we are being called fucking retards.
Perhaps. But to me it looks like a clear case of those not willing to learn from history being forced to repeat it: despite all the local efforts of the intervening 6 years, today the DLC wing of the party has an even stronger stranglehold than they had back then – they don’t much care about local progressives, because once one gets elected to national office they can (and do) clip their wings there, allowing them only tokens of tribute to their constituents.
The Democratic party simply cannot be reformed from the bottom up unless the top is first significantly weakened. Dean came far closer to blind-siding the top than anyone has since, and now the establishment is much better prepared to deal with such rogue populists (they had Obama waiting in the wings ahead of time two years ago, rather than having to produce another Clark on short notice if the need arose – as it might have done with Edwards, for all his flaws, had they not taken such precautions beforehand).
The Deaniacs who forget that ‘they had the power’ (even after Dean explicitly emphasized this in his withdrawal speech) and disconsolately wandered into the Kerry camp without making him EARN their support helped that happen. Those who were dazzled by Obama despite his questionable record and policies and failed to demand better let it happen again. If that’s not losing their way, I’m not sure what would be.
The way to begin to turn around conservatives death grip on power is to stop electing Democratic scumbags like Barack Obama. End of.
Greenwald’s got an awesome piece today about Obama mocking progressives at a recent $30,000 a plate fund-raising dinner.
I hope to provide a partial answer to your question over the course of several posts, but here’s a little something to think about to get you started.
First, keep in mind that ultimately all politics are local. Seems trite, but bear with me.
Second, ask yourself why there is a Democratic Club and not a Democratic Party in your area. Investigating and digesting this might tell you something about your area’s political apparatus and structure. For example, a neighboring county here has five different political entities in one county. They don’t have much overlap and they don’t talk to each other. Only one of them is the actual Democratic Party for that county; the others are chartered organizations. Why so many is wrapped up in the dynamics of the folks who belong to these five organizations. One group is more progressive, another favors a particular union, another is so old nobody remembers why it’s separate from the party and so on. These schisms may explain why a new person will experience a particular reaction.
Which brings me back to the “politics is local” adage; this situation is unique to your area and will likely be understood best from that lens. Was this group already more likely to be Obama-friendly more than any other organization in the area based on its constituency?
If I were you I would simply drop in on their meetings and take notes, observe the way they work. If they ask questions, tell them you’re looking for a political home and you’re just kicking the tires. I’d also look for Meetup organizations with a liberal bent in your area, also check Democracy For America’s website to see if there’s a group in your local. Do the same thing, drop in, listen, ask questions. You’ll begin to see if this is a region-wide challenge or if there is a different group which is a better fit for your personal ideology.
I will tell you from my own experience that we formed a club in my area because the local party was stultifying. It couldn’t move out of its own way. So we pursued chartering to form a club which would get things done, like recruiting and grooming progressive candidates, helping them raise funds, host candidate forums, do literature drops and door knocking with them, and phone bank. I know other clubs which formed for what I consider trivial reasons — the chair didn’t get along with some guy, petty crap like that. You’ll need to get a bead on it so you can figure out how to work around speed bumps.
Above all, health, and family Rayne. Always.
We’re just getting used to you, and don’t want to lose you.
*G*
thx for the link.
Well another way to deal with this is to enforce the prohibition on churches from being involved in politics. That’s a condition of their tax exemption.
If you know of such cases then please report them to Americans United for Separation of Church and State – they’d be happy to investigate and file a lawsuit if warranted.
The challenge with the wing clipping goes to the heart of the lack of institutional knowledge. If we’d known in 2004 what we know now, we’d have probably done several things differently.
For starters, we should have done both Option 2 and 3 at the same time, with the understanding that everybody who supported Opt. 2 would form a caucus which was parallel and identical to a third progressive party. If the party didn’t shape up, we’d pull the plug and ramp up Opt. 3. We may still have that option, but so much time has passed that I don’t know if reconstitution is possible; we could be starting from scratch which is incredibly risky.
The other problem we still have goes to institutional knowledge: what is it in the Dem Party’s charter and bylaws which reinforces the bottleneck at the top? We should have changed the bylaws four years ago but we didn’t know we would be fucked this badly by people who were blindly partisan or aligned with DLC or just plain stupid (and perhaps all three). As I see it the entire state-level party needs to remove more than half of the DNC committee members in order to break the bottleneck; how do we do it?
As an example, think about the mess with the primaries in 2008 — there were so few people who understood the institutional mess let alone what it would take to get us out of it. And that’s still not fully resolved to the best of my knowledge.
I concur that it’s time to somehow force our elected offals (fat cat chance huh) to impose the sanctity of Separation Of Church And State. No politics allowed in the church.
Revoke the 5,01,c,3. Or 4.
Sadly, that’s another reform like banking/financial regulation, that’s seemingly impossible.
If only it was that easy. All it takes is for the church to advocate on an issue, which in most cases is anti-abortion, and encourage church members to be righteously anti-abortion in their exercise of voting rights. Churches are able to advocate on issues.
And conveniently the church will bus folks who need a ride to the polls, helping their fellow Christians.
No laws broken.
Rayne, thanks for taking the time to share your historical observations and perspective. A useful injection into the Seminal discussion stream.
One factual quibble: OFA was mobilized to beat the drums for Obamacare since early 2009, not just starting in September of that year. I wrote about my experience with their activities, from my perspective, in spring of 2009.
Interesting look back.
In regards to my OWN political edification over the decades . . . I’ve always been anti authority and anti establishment for all the reasons any of us were in our teens or early 20′s in the 60′s/70′s.
I think we were right, and so do many others.
So, I’ve ALWAYS been skeptical, period.
But I must admit, since Bush was elected with Cheney, my political understanding and awareness of the political PROCESS, and how it’s owned and operated by corporate controls, and how that impacts every facet of our country and nation, well, my understanding has grown.
I mean, not until FDL identified The Veal Pen, was I able to put a mental grip on about insiders. I knew they were there, I didn’t know how many of them there were, or how bad it got when an outsider became an insider and marginalized their POV from proggy to elitist.
So, my point is, we’ve ALL learnt a lot since Bush/Cheney, and our political understandings have grown by leaps and bounds. I knew we were in trouble, we the people, since my early teens.
But I never dreamt it was so ingrained and deep as it really is. That I learnt the past ten years.
And even during The Dean Age pre and post ’04, a lot of what we know now about insider politics is relatively new! 5 years old at its oldest! New knowledge coming at us every day.
It’s all happening at breakneck speed . . . both the screwing, and the greater understanding ABOUT the screwing of we the people.
I’m more jaded now, by far, than I was as an anti war teen and young adult.
I just have to live with it. And deal with it. And ultimately, I have one thing to hold to.
It’s all unsustainable as is.
Systems all fucked up, top to bottom, and can only get worse, and collapse.
But I cling to, and appreciate, every little level of greater understanding of it all. That sustains me, so far.
What we have learned this past ten years about truth and reality is incredible, and it’s spreading out to the masses. Breathtaking, breakneck fast, and incredible.
We live in incredibly interesting times . . . and just to BE here for this, is something to behold in and of itself.
And now, back to your regular programming.
Sorry to interrupt. Chain of conscience keyboarding and all that . . . . ;-)
SOME so called churches break laws.
Spank them HARD, make an example out of them.
Phelps and the recent Quran Burner come to mind.
Break them, completely. Send the message.
I’m not saying it would be easy and you expertly illustrated how, with a wink and a nod, the churches can advocate without supporting or attacking a candidate. However, the problem seems to be that there are churches that are blatantly engaging in the kind of political advocacy that is prohibited by the tax code (it’s not a criminal offense by any means) that grants their exemption. I read stories of this kind activity in every election cycle.
All I’m saying is that if anyone knows of such activity to contact Americans United. They’re very experienced at doing the heavy lifting in these cases. It doesn’t cost anything and it might help, if even a little bit, to negate some of the disadvantage we’re bemoaning.
No elected officials are needed. Any citizen can file a complaint with the IRS but best to leave the heavy lifting to an outfit like Americans United.
Thanks Rayne. I very much enjoyed this and look forward to your next installment.
Obama’s strength is that he represents the demographic shift that will ultimately determine the future of the country. The demographics, that began to blossom in 2004 and made Dean as successful as he was, were much more than just a color shift generated by the growing importance of Latins and its proportional effect upon the influence of the diminishing WASP majority.
Youth is always more technically astute than the generation that comes before and the strategists for the Deaniacs quickly realized that Dean’s ideas had a lot of appeal for people who lived on the internet. It was a marriage made in heaven and it generated a lot of cash, attention and grassroots organization in a short amount of time.
As time passes, the young are becoming the swing voters that independents used to be and they are, by and large, progressives. In addition, they are unemployed. They pay a lot more attention to streaming Lady GaGa than Sinatra on vinyl.
That is why Obama can not afford to ignore them. When Emanuel goes, Obama needs to replace him with a progressive. It’s needed balance and it will heal a lot of wounds.
Dean would rally the base , but he won’t. He doesn’t want to be seen as doing a Teddy K act ala Carter 1980. Obama is doomed with or without a primary challenge.
THAT, was a great analysis and read.
I sorta knew this, but now I KNOW it.
What a great comment.
Thanks again.
*OnChairCLappingLoudly*
Almost a year ago I blogged about recent FOIA info that shown a light onto unknown, but powerful influences that limited Presidential Power through intimidation and subterfuge.
The links are illuminating, to say the very least. The discussion was provacative.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/w/e/wendy_davis/2009/11/hidden-limits-to-presidential.php
What’s in the Black Box? We may never know, but I decidedly don’t like where this Presidency is heading.
I do appreciate your historical overview though, Rayne, and it deserves a second read.
I disagree, and not legally.
When the WH and Congress don’t look to oversight and regulation, and call for investigations of matters, nothing gets done.
They are the grand enforcers of Separation Of Church And State, by default.
When they abdicate their obligations, churches run amok with blessings.
Yes, I hear you about OFA, but I think that the roll out was quite localized; we didn’t see anybody from OFA on health care until September, the very month I was soliciting support for a public option resolution.
Which suggests, then, that funding and organizational structure to make health care reform happen was not a priority. Had it been a priority, we would have seen a far more consistent, focused message and approach along with warm bodies everywhere.
Wendy, given what Bush/Cheney did with extending and imposing Executive Privilege and The Unitary Presidency, your posit falls flat on me.
Oh, believe me, if I could catch them at it I would. I’ve seen so much ugly crap cross my email from AFA over the last several which toes the line; I’d consult Americans United if I saw something that was particularly egregious.
There’s a lesson here, though; we should be learning how to go right up to the line, too.
Had Public Option or anything like that been an option, we’d have it.
It never was, and the end result is a boon to the health insurance corporations and the medical provider complex.
Corporate fascism, rules. End of story.
Why?
Class war.
1%.
*G*
Thanks – I think that the work you and Nancy have been doing fits hand-in-glove with some of the experiences and learnings I’ve had over the last seven years.
NOW you got my full and undivided attention.
*G*
I have a lot of unspoken thoughts about Joe and Nancy.
Some I’ve shared. Most I haven’t.
I guess, I don’t need to share EVERYthing I think about.
*G*
I hear you about the youth, particularly youth of minority ethnic groups. They won’t be minority members within the next decade and they must be prepared to lead. In this respect Obama continues to be an important role model who can shape their personal expectations.
With regard to technology, I wouldn’t say that the Dean for America campaign was enabled by youth alone. There were a number of very savvy folks who were middle-aged and older who were instrumental in the dispersion of technology; they just weren’t the folks who were interviewed by the media most often. I stay in touch with many of them; they continue to be at the cutting edge of social media.
And I agree entirely that more attention on youth and minority constituencies must happen between now and the 2012 election. Emanuel has taken them for granted, ignoring their necessity to 2012 and to the rest of the future.
My son, for example, a potential candidate decades from now, has already been shaped by Emanuel’s disrepect. Son can recite the entire Emanuel apology skit done on Saturday Night Live from memory; he won’t forget Rahm any time soon. (You can find the skit on Hulu.)
A very informative post, Rayne. But maybe I’m misreading your intent, but you seem to be disapproving of those of us who who have been, you know, all angry and pissed off. You say,
I confess to being one of those who are angry and who “plead for alternatives.” Don’t we all want alternatives to the government we have at present?
With the exception of a very few, the Democrats in Congress have acquiesced to the White House as it has continued the many abuses of power that so shocked us all when they were begun by George Bush and Dick Cheney: massive, illegal spying on Americans by their government, holding persons without charge indefinitely, kidnapping persons on foreign soil and rendering them to countries where they are brutally tortured, maintaining secret prisons, strengthening the impenetrable wall of secrecy around all these illegal and unconstitutional abuses, as well as continuing the policy of preventative war, now expanded by Obama to include assassination of American citizens and foreign nationals anyplace on earth. I could go on and on.
The erosion of civil liberties begun by Republican radicals is being continued by Democratic politicians who, make no mistake about it, are just as radical if not more so. But what makes the betrayal of America’s Constitution even more insidious is that Obama and the Congressional Democrats promised to abolish the very abuses they are now expanding, all the while gushing about how they are so much better, so much holier than the horrible, awful, atrocious administration they supplanted. I don’t know how they avoid choking on all their lies. At least Bush and Cheney came out and declared they believed in a monarchical executive. Obama and the Democrats do not.
As a member of the left who finds the abandonment of constitutional government to be the most radical event of my lifetime, and of an importance greater than, say, any legislative failure or achievement, I admit to having begged, groveled and pleaded for alternatives here and in other venues. Does that make me politically naive? Then I am just naive, I guess, and there is nothing to be done about it.
When Obama broke his word on FISA prior to the election my opinion of the man tanked. I was relieved on election night that McCain had not won, but not thrilled about Obama. Now in hindsight, I doubt if McCain would have governed much differently. As far as civil liberties, I think the course he would have taken is identical to the course Obama has taken.
Angry would not nearly encompass the feelings I have experienced over the last two years. Sadness, even approaching grief, would be more accurate, but there has been anger too. As the saying goes, if you are not outraged, you haven’t been paying attention.
Yeah. I think you and I are on the same wavelength with regard to the possible permutations of capture.
Baker’s book shed a lot of light on possibilities, as did Gellman’s Angler.
I might not have been quite as open to the idea had not some former and current contacts in DC been quite rattled by what they perceived as Obama being rolled by the military at least three different times since he took office.
It’s absolutely essential for you to understand that I was pissed about many of the same things under the Bush administration that I’m pissed about today. It’s my anger that got me engaged, it’s my anger that keeps me involved. Believe me, it burns my chaps that after seven years and untold hours and thousands of dollars that change has been so freaking glacial in pace.
But I have learned a lot about the nature of the problem we face, and I’m going to share what I can so that we can get past bashing and complaining and get moving.
Fascinating stuff. Can’t wait to read the rest of the series.
I’m not referring to the age of the strategists but rather the age of the target. The enthusiasm of the Dean campaign smacked of its appeal to youth–that is, the intrinsic belief that things can be changed; that the status quo is not a law of physics.
But youth does not take disappointment well as, I’m sure, your son can tell you. Much of the progressive disillusionment with Obama is based on the age of the progressive. They may not be as obvious as FDL posters but their numbers are far greater and growing.
My point is that the internet is a unique and pure pipeline straight into the minds of people who are predisposed to be receptive to the very ideas that are the bread and butter of liberals. They are discontented and they realize that their economic survival depends upon the end of trickle down.
But they will not vote unless they see some gain for their last efforts and, in that regard, the administration has failed miserably.
Obama can connect with them easily. He is one. But he has to give to get.
His administration has the technical skills to communicate. Now, all he needs is the right message.
Not positing, Larue, but questioning how captive this President may be, as others apparently have been in the past.
I’m not sure what you mean by Bush/Cheney and unitary executive seeming to negate that possiblility.
Back to one of Rayne’s contentions about Obama and the Dems not being captive to Corporations, I think the NYT reported that much of the $350 million Obama got in contributions was corporate.
And the Melissa Bean Dems likely get plenty of corporate banking, as long as you factor in Banks.
He’s going to need more than message. The target demographic needs jobs; until they get them, they aren’t going to see real change.
I think it’s dangerous to say that they are all captive.
But there are pointed examples.
Blanche Lincoln and Joe Lieberman come to mind immediately.
Ditto Chris Dodd.
*Gasp*
Thanks for the link and welcome to the Lake. Hope to see you diary around here.
Jobs is the message.
2012 is the answer.
But it may be too late, at least for this election cycle.
The battle for the future will be waged on the internet.
Let’s hope the soldiers haven’t already tuned out.
I trust you understand the Bush/Cheney Unitary Executive, their Executive Signings.
And I’ll trust, you understand that Obama has continued it all.
the naivete was to be found amongst those who believed the Democrats would do anything different once they had taken power.
talk about ‘institutional memory’: betraying their long-suffering, infinitely gullible, duped ‘base’ is what they do!
the previous “man from Hope” taught those lessons well to those who were paying attention – it was such a relief to have not voted for him as he f*cked the most faithful (D) constituencies right and left.
I do, Larue. I’ve written about it extensively.
I’m just not sure that it negates the possiblity of direct pressures from the folks who really run the MICC. (Adding *Congressional* to the mix).
Obama greyed as quickly as Carter did; my paranoid side wonders what they found out early in terms of the Powers that truly shape our government; and it’s arguably been extending to international money and power.
Sovereign borders don’t seem to matter much at those levels; the playing field is global. US arms and weapons systems sales to different nations make me think that the game is so rigged that there’s no stopping it.
Think how long US corporations continued to sell weapons to Iran while severe sanctions were in place.
Consider what deals are in the planning stages now over the *new* discovery of untold mineral wealth in Afghanistan, or the recent hype over building ‘A new silk road’ through the region.
If we believe Molly, and I do, that ‘the bidness of America is bidness’, will we ever leave Afghanistan?
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I didn’t mean to imply they are *all captive*, Rayne.
But many of the new breed of House Dems are, and it’s causing Congress to ratchet right, especially economically, which is a lot of the ballgame, IMO.
We’ll know more when it’s time for them to vote on reducing Social Security benefits, won’t we?
I’ve heard some smart economists contend that the next emerging financial crisis will be a somewhat manufactured bond crisis, which will then (cynically) open the door to drastic social safety net cuts. We’ll see.
Obama and the Dems are not the enemy. This is the enemy! This is where your anger should be directed. And, I think there are some of the right wing religious fanatics in the Dem House/Senate. However, is the solution to just sit back and allow more of these right wing religious fanatics gain total control of Congress? I don’t think so! Retain control of Congess then start working to get the right wing Dems out and a candidate to challenge Obama in 2012. Would Alan Grayson perhaps be the one? A right wing religious Congress intends to legislate morality–they are saying this openly now! Wake up and direct your anger at keeping these right wing religious candidates out of Congress!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nancy-cohen-phd/hiding-in-plain-sight-the_b_721520.html
When Congress makes drastic social safety net cuts will be the day the have nots revolt. The have nots will have nothing and I really don’t think they are just going to roll over and play dead. What is ironic is that many in the Tea Party are have nots!
This is way I see it…..ObamaINC will blame the progressives for the defeat or whatever is lost this Nov.
It really doesn’t matter if we had the turnout we had in ’08….we will be blamed because it’s a rigged set-up. After Citizens United… which I didn’t hear a peep from Mr. Obama about….the game’s up.
They can massage the turnout anyway they want with the help of the media and put in any candidate they want and , I think Mr. Obama wants Republicans, the crazier , the better.
He’s already been doing a fan dance up there with the “R’s” for 2 years for cover in passing his awful bills.
I wonder if TPTB were chagrined at how they were going to Play US when the Dems pretty much got a filibuster proof majority in both houses? Well, I guess we know now.
So, Obama will be the “sacrificial lamb” after this election and the progressives will still be the whipping post and whatever is tied to it and the media will say “See? You didn’t vote so this is what you get instead of “Utopia”; it’s all the spoiled progressives’ “fault” ( how I’ve come to despise that word)
Not to worry – they’re still there, just not displaying (the same happens to any message that you edit).
Simply refresh the Web page and you’ll see that all’s well (in that limited respect, anyway…).
I think it’s safe to say that any who aren’t themselves captive to the corporations are captive to those who ARE captive to the corporations. The HCR charade proved that pretty conclusively.
Oh, I think we saw that Dem leadership was hostage to religious elements, too, not merely corporations.
Pitts-Stupak should never had made it to a vote, although there’s two other possibilities here. Leadership was simply ignorant/negligent and blindsided by the amendment, or leadership hoped it would act as a Trojan Horse to take down the bill.
In any case, the fundies now think they have even more power over our government.
This is an unnecessarily insulting, condescending, and combative statement. We read FDL, Greenwald, and the mainstream as well as independent news sources. We are hardly ill-informed. I think an apology on your part is in order.
Nope. Thanks for playing.
We should be thankfull that someone like Rayne has come along and educated us on how the political game really works. Someone who has been involved in dem politics for as long as she has certainly knows how many dems can dance on the head of a pin.
Great piece Rayne.
I should also point out that deliberate sabotage of any and all discussions about third-party organizing — carried out by prominent bloggers including members of FDL, “Open” Left, and Daily Kos — have helped to keep the non-Democrat left from mounting significant online organizing. Everything is still centered around a political party that despises the left, and open hostility toward those who dare suggest another around which to organize are ridiculed, bullied, marginalized, and banished. This needs to stop. FDL, “Open” Left, Daily Kos, and others have resources and online organizations that have had and continue to have a significant impact upon politics. There is no legitimate reason for such online communities to act in any kind of hostile manner toward groups and individuals who choose to work outside the Democrat Party establishment. The result is that the left remains frustrated, and sees sites such as FDL as mere gatekeeper blogs, institutions designed to keep the proles in line.
FDL and others need to cease acting against the left and start acting with it. This means that, even if no official endorsements of third party candidates are made, there should be at least the reporting of them — who they are, where they’re running, and what they stand for. This will help spread awareness and allow voters options besides two equal (and equally unpalatable) evils. Until or unless this begins to happen, count on Democrats to continue losing to Republicans as more and more voters choose to sit elections out and stop participating in the electoral process altogether.
Then continue to watch as more Coakley debacles pop up all over the nation. People like you, Jason, and Markos are among the biggest contributors to the collapse of the American left. That you see nothing wrong with what you say and do speaks volumes about the futility of sites like FDL, “Open” Left, and the rest. You’d rather act against the left.
Speaking for myself, I’d rather pressure Democrats to act like Democrats, and pay attention to traditional liberal values and the Party Platform, abortion rights, Rule of Law, and economic justice.
As a newcomer to the Seminal I want to thank you for your thoughtful consideration of all viewpoints. I like your style, but I suspect that there is a substantial disagreement between us, so let me add my perspective to the mix without anger? I think that the best thing that can be said about America is that it is failing because it deserves to fail. We are in a late-Roman situation because we are a giant parasite on Earth. I’m not a fatalist. Of course America can change, and I’m doing what I can in this regard, but it’s much more likely that the kind of change we need will come from some other place on Earth? From my perspective, Progressives look more like Tea Party types than they think because they offer, at least in their electoral politics, no bold, visionary alternative to American-led Global Capitalism.
How’s that strategy been working out for you? Just sayin’
It’s progressive ideas that we should champion, not one party over another. The strategy for most effectively enacting progressive goals is open for discussion, but history proves that voting for D’s doesn’t get us there.
We came; We saw; We trusted; We were betrayed.
The only way you can effectively add that pressure at this point is to go outside the Democrat Party. They will never do as we want them to do until they know in their deepest recesses that there will always be consequences for betraying the base. They get away with so much now because they know we won’t turn anywhere else, like an abusive spouse secure in having thoroughly beaten his other half into craven submission.
I’d disagree with making Dean’s drama the centerpiece of the story. He definitely wasn’t (and probably still isn’t) on “the left” politically, at least as that would be defined by anyone who actually is on the left.
As anyone should know who looked at his record as a near-GOP governor of Vermont and watched him dodge back and forth in interviews on the issue of invading Iraq, he’s the perfect model of a modern pol: unethical. He’s a run-of-the-mill opportunist, not anything near as sleazy as Edwards, but also miles to the right of someone like Kucinich or McKinney.
The only reason Dean didn’t get the Kucinich Treatment (look up the coverage accorded Dean compared to Kucinich by the “political editor” of the NYTimes in 2003-4, and worse–his justification for it!) is precisely because he [i]was[/i] an obvious opportunist whose meager political history was decidedly right-leaning. As Obama did, Dean signaled that he was for sale with every word out of his mouth; that he would happily run left and govern right, preserving the status quo in all meaningful ways.
My sense is that the corpomedia kept him just warm enough to use if they couldn’t reanimate Kerry (the real puzzler is why did they need to reanimate Kerry? The guy is the quintessential empty suit, but even he should have been more animated than he was. Was the fix already in, and he just didn’t want to be a pantomime candidate? Or did he think the fix was in the other way and his sense of overentitlement kicked in? We might never know.)
After awhile, it did sound like Dean might actually be moving left as he found that it got him good results. Whether because of that apparent leftward shift or perhaps because they eventually did manage to dis-embalm Kerry a bit, or both, Dean became surplus to requirements and the corpomedia started to visibly ignore him. It was pretty interesting to watch. And then they metaphorically cut his throat with his alleged “scream”.
He got the consolation prize of DNC Chair, and played with that awhile (I’m not convinced that his efforts are responsible for the temporary reanimation of the Dem corpse, but I suppose it’s possible). Now he’s more completely on the outside again, which is why I’m willing to accept that he might actually have moved a bit leftward on a semi-permanent basis.
But “on the left”? No.
We on the angry left who are no longer D’s surely don’t know the inside story of the Deaniacs struggle inside the party. So, yes…we are poorly informed in that way.
However, that sentence chapped my hide a little bit too. Poorly informed be construed much more broadly. We are not poorly informed, generally.
Michael, we have a platform here at the Lake–The Seminal. Angry left diaries have been at the top of the rec list. Rayne is assistant editor here.
Certainly there are many here at the Lake who are D Party loyalists. But they are also real progressives who have strong opinions about strategy. So, let’s discuss strategy!
Rayne, we on the angry left need to be brought back to the Party by you if that is what you think will bring progressive policies to the country. Right now, there is a lot of invective and spittle coming our way. D Party loyalists are not helping their cause.
Campaign shmampaign. I’ll tell you why the Left will be unable to win any major victories. It’s all about the Benjamins. $_$
Until a “liberal” billionare like George Soros starts astro-turfing the Coffee Party, progressives won’t have the type of cash to rally, organize, and campaign like Reich-wing does with its Koch Brothers, Tea Parties, Fox News, Psuedo-intellectual Foundations, Corporate donations.
As gangsta rapper Jay-Z would say, “If y’all n***as ain’t talkin ’bout large money what’s the point?”
[Edited by Moderator. Even when quoting Jay-Z, let's not use that word or any variants of it.]
Yeah, I’ve been lurking on this thread and I think Rayne (without presuming to actually speak for her) is attempting to point out the difficulties encountered in trying to re-claim the Democratic Party (hence the lessons learned aspect) while at the same time reminding folks of the level of hard work that reclaiming the party is.
And reality is, creating a viable and strong enough third party to win elections and gain power is probably exponentially more difficult than re-claiming the D party
One of the reasons I come to the Lake is that Jane and others have ideas about how to work inside the D Party, but their progressive values are similar to mine. I am open to trying any ethical strategy to strengthen progressive power that gets results. Inside or outside the D Party.
I agree. It just sometimes seems that a lot of the folks hollering against what Rayne and others are doing aren’t really offering much by way of an alternative.
It seems to me that they want a miracle without the hard work that most “miracles” actually entail.
Rayne makes that really clear in this post, IMO.
I find it difficult to put the hard work in to support a Party whose leadership calls me f*ing r*tarded. They laugh at me derisively. And then they expect me to come panting to the polls to cast a vote for them just because they don’t have an R next to their name. I can’t abide.
I think pro golfer Lee Trevino put it best: The harder I work, the luckier I get.
Abso-fricking-lutely right, spot on. And I’ll get to that one.
I know it’s hard, really hard. That’s why my comment about biting the hand that fed them — Rahm has it completely wrong if he thinks we are beholden to him rather than the other way around.
But that’s why the party needs to be hollowed out and taken back, to kick motherf*ckers like Rahm to the motherf*cking curb.
I’ll bet he can understand that, since I wrote it in his language. ;-)
I think a look at Dean from a meta-perspective is called for, too. He was the governor of VERMONT.
Not Idaho. Not Texas.
We’re not talking about voters who are going to pick a Haley Barbour or Rick Perry. We’re talking about people who’ve selected the likes of Pat Leahy and Bernie Sanders as Senators; even their Republicans like Jim Jeffords struggle with being in that party and move left.
You want to try to peg Dean as a closet Republican? Yeah, nice try — except that he’s from Vermont.
As for what you called dodging on Iraq: in 2003, anybody who came right out and said the war was wrong was going to be skewered by the media and the right. Dean did come out and clearly said that there simply wasn’t adequate evidence to support going to war. Ask yourself if that was enough to get him axed by the media; following Dean’s logic means the media didn’t do their jobs in the run-up to the war, didn’t do the investigative work necessary. Of course they had to do something about that.
In essence, Dean did get the Kucinich treatment. The media latched onto the whatever they could find to marginalize him.
Ah, mairead (@126: forgot to enable scripting yet again) – it’s nice to see you, but sad to see you still stuck in the rut of so many Kucinich supporters who so resented Dean for what they saw as his ‘stealing’ Kucinich’s ‘rightful’ support that they felt free to denigrate him in all kinds of ways, many of them not only incompetent but downright silly.
Dean never professed to be a raging lefty, but beyond any shadow of a doubt he qualified (and still qualifies) as a progressive well worthy of support. Contrary to your suggestion he was steadfastly against the Iraq war from the start of his campaign – he just didn’t couch his opposition in moral terms (yeah, I would have preferred that too, but in fact it was a reasonable political choice to oppose it because it was monumentally stupid and side-step its immorality as an extremely divisive additional issue that would actually detract from effective opposition more than it added to it).
As someone so completely ignorant of Dean and his campaign you’re simply not qualified to comment on it. Sorry ’bout that.
Exactly, with a caveat: precious few are actually qualified to comment about anyone, but particularly Gov. Dean. His 2004 laundry has been twisted and then dragged through the public wringer for all the wrong reasons, and his capitulation (not an unpredictable event) on the HC bill was disheartening to say the least. So the heat is IMO, misplaced.
And I was and am a Deaniac. I sat in a community college night after night, hand-writing letters to Iowa voters and all the rest.
Rayne, I appreciate the analysis.
From my viewpoint as an occasional amateur political scientist I think there was very little hope of electing any progressive to the Presidency in 2008, or swinging the Democratic leadership to the left. The USA is in one of its authoritarian periods and, just as liberals did badly nationally through the 1950s, progressives are doing badly now. I do not believe the Democrats will ever be a progressive party again. Most progressives do not want to work for the Democrats any more–too many people have been burned too badly. I personally have no heart to work for a conservative party, though I am unlikely to vote for most Republicans. Which leaves the US left, where? Looking towards 2020 and a new party, I think. The Republicans are self-destructing; I don’t see how tea party ideology can last nationally for more than one Presidential election, even with all the funding the Kochs can shower on it. So there is an opening. Younger people are to overwhelmingly progressive, and older women are reacting to the misogyny of the current administration. It’s one of the odder but striking things about the Obama administration: progressive women are marginalized and pressed out, and then there is Larry “math is hard for girls” Summers. I suspect (maybe you know) that Nancy Pelosi hates Obama by now, and I fear for Elizabeth Warren–”they” (and I am not sure who they is) are going to try to break her, and erase all her work. In any event, I think a coalition of older women and younger voters could build a progressive party in time to make a difference in 2020.
Great response Raven, with a history of being burned by the dems for 30yrs the groups you mention could be the base for a new movement and don’t forget unions. Another group that no one is mentioning is the 30+% who don’t vote.
The problem with the democrat faithfull is they have no vision outside of their party. People who are motivated like Rayne could be very usefull in organizing a new alternative, even if she is a bit arrogant.
You really have started a productive discussion, Rayne. I can’t wait to see your next posts on this topic.
Good for you.
Bill, I think the record I cited (differences between NYT political coverage of Dean & Kucinich by Nagourney of the NYT, and his stated reason for doing it) plus the Koppel attack during the debate suggests that you’re delusional.
See, for example, http://www.blackcommentator.com/75/75_cover_dean_media.html for an analysis that supports my thesis.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say, Rayne. Are you claiming that Vermont voting for Sanders et al. proves Dean didn’t govern as a near-GOPer??
In support of my thesis, see for example:
Though he has been dubbed a “raging liberal” by admirers and critics alike, Howard Dean governed Vermont strictly within the framework of the conservative Democratic Leadership Council.
Many people on the Vermont left see Dean’s current posture as politically motivated. “The notion that he is a liberal is ludicrous to those of us who worked with him in Vermont,” said Terrill Bouricius, a former state representative. (it goes on from there).
The site is hardly impartial (http://www.isreview.org/issues/32/dean.shtml), but they do offer cites for their claims.
What does it say about a web site when the editors feel free to insult and threaten readers? That is wrong, and if Rayne or Jason or anyone else thinks that’s the way to convince people to do what they want, then they’re in for a rude awakening. Then again, I wonder if any of these people are capable of waking up. They seem content to sleep and dream of things they have no interest in really working for.
Delusional about exactly what, mairead? The fact that Kucinich supporters like you (and not all are) remain extremely sore losers where Dean is concerned, because they feel that despite Dennis’s consistent failure to convince people to extend the kind of support that Dean attracted he was somehow ENTITLED to it (kind of reminiscent of the Dembots who feel the same way about their DLC puppets)? Delusional about Dean’s being legitimately progressive (as even your Black Commentator link admitted: Dean never claimed to be liberal or SPECTACULARLY progressive, though, like Gore, he gravitated increasingly in that direction over time)? The idiots who claimed Dean was a ‘raging liberal’ were the same kind of incompetents (or agenda-driven spinmeisters) who call Obama a ‘socialist’.
The link you gave to Rayne above exhibits the same kind of envy in its attempt to divert some of the support that Dean earned to pursuits farther to the left by painting him in the most unflattering manner possible. There’s a REASON, you know, why socialists (and for that matter Dennis) have never managed to generate that kind of enthusiasm on their own (at least within the lifetimes of most people here), annoying as you may find that fact, and it’s not entirely surprising to see how that resentment sometimes gets expressed.
By the way, while the Black Commentator was hardly an uncritical Dean supporter on the balance they approved of him – see especially http://www.blackcommentator.com/68/68_cover_dean.html and the end of http://www.blackcommentator.com/64/64_cover_sharpton.html (where they observe that he was “the only top-tier candidate who credibly opposed the Iraq war”). They, unlike you, were also very clearly aware of just how much he differed with the DLC (and how the DLC with the enthusiastic cooperation of the media eventually dealt with that: unlike the case with Dennis, marginalizing Dean took some serious cooperative effort).
I’ve always appreciated Dennis, and felt badly for him (rather than castigated him) when he got so completely steam-rolled at the end of the health-care fiasco. But I recognize that it’s a lot easier to feel sympathy and kinship for someone who was mostly part of the political background rather than a serious rival for the support my own candidate was seeking.
Rayne, I think so too.
Also, I’ve read your analysis again this evening. It is really a terrific piece of analysis, and I think the comment exchanges have been great too. Thanks to all!