Many who are inspired by the Obama revolution, are upset with the war in Afghanistan. Anger at the war serves as a break against the momentum of Obama’s domestic reforms. But foreign policy and domestic programs are treated as two separate subjects. Since in the past many only condemned a war only if they thought it was evil, criticizing Obama’s judgment when it comes to Pakistan makes his domestic policy also seemingly less ideal and thus made it much more difficult for poor children to get health care, instead of less war overseas. The theory that only evil wars can be pursued by an evil country and an evil President, trips every issue up. Also, claiming Obama doesn’t know what he is doing in Afghanistan makes it easier for others to claim that Obama doesn’t know what he is doing when he starts to crack down on the CIA and past torture policy.
PS, The conclusion at the end of this article will be that discussing the issue of world government might help us solve local issues like health care reform.
With Obama, Americans are becoming more in a state of flux in our beliefs of what America’s place in the world should be. There have been two views of America’s place in the world: One view is that America has been a great hope for mankind, another view is that the US has been screwing things up ever since the British colonists first attacked the Indians and brought the first slave to these shores. World War II: Most think America was a savior. Iraq: Most think we only made things worse. Some say America the land of the free and the brave spread the light of freedom, around the world, while others say Amerika the devil is robbing the world with its evil Imperialism. Some say Bush represented Amerika the Devil while Obama represents America the good. But one can’t hide from the fact that Obama’s and Bush’s Afghanistan policies are quite similar.
What can anyone say to prevent Afghanistan from turning the Obama revolution into a Greek Tragedy? I would like to suggest that the US trying to preserve order gives a touch of justice in this world.
When Russia or China felt it was there duty to stand up to the most militant Muslims, in Afghanistan, Chechnya, and with China in Uyghur, they inadvertently succeeded in convincing Muslims that Russia or China considered Islam in general their enemy. Much more than Bush who went to great lengths to convince Americans and Middle Easterners alike that moderates like the King of Jordan was the US’s friend.
In the past France also at times decided to be a vigilante or a self pointed police officer in Haiti and in Lebanon, leading among other things to some Americans boycotting French Fries. The current President of France has no intention of having France try to be in charge of solving any of the world’s problems. So the choice today is either the US, Russia or China trying to preserve a touch of order on the world. If the US gets out of Afghanistan in a hurry, the chances are that Muslims and China would be at each others throat far more than when Russia and Afghanistan were fighting.
There is another choice. World government and a world wide police force dealing with the most far out extremists rather than one country. A touch of this happened as the UN started fighting piracy.
Some fear that in a world government, India might unite with the African and Arab world and declare that women are subservient to men, or one be required to attend either Muslim, Catholic or another religious service, not including Unitarianism. These fears aren’t necessary just ideal fears. However as the world situation now stands, the US withdrawing from trying to both run things and preserve a touch of justice would mean Russia or China trying to do so instead.
Al Qaeda has a clear plan to bait the US into bankrupting itself. Somehow their words to this effect hasn’t been given much coverage. When al Qaeda didn’t want Afghans to vote they attacked voting places and poll workers. In Iraq, bin Laden went on the Internet and demanded Iraqis not vote. They voted and many in the US decided that the war in Iraq was a war against bin Laden after all.
The US spends an incredible amount on smarter and smarter robot weapons like drone aircraft managing to cut down the US casualty rate, but al Qaeda kills on the cheap. A retarded child or a downs syndrome old lady equipped as a remote control suicide bomber might actually save them money in long term food costs vs the cost of the weapons they were carrying. The US must stop responding by spending ever more money on rapidly more costly arms, or else the US will become bankrupt.
There are al Qaeda dangers ahead such as the possibility they will seize or inherit Pakistani nukes. Of course Russia and China would do everything they could to prevent this if the US wasn’t in the central stage.
Whatever does or does not happen in the baby steps toward world government in the next few years, discussing the issues the way I did, will stop Americans from believing they have to decide whether US policy in Afghanistan is good or Satanic, and thus whether or not we can believe Obama knows what he is doing in the health care debate.
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It would be far more frightening for americans to believe that our president was selecting a solution to afghanistan that will lead to a World government. Are you kidding me!! We are losing our jobs to “foreigners”, we are losing our energy sources to “foreigners”. We are losing our sovereignty to the “World court”. And Spain is going to try Cheney etc..The last thing we need to do is turn over our independence to a world order. There is such a thing as getting too big to manage. And in my thinking, having a world order is way too big. Call me parochial, but I really like my form of government and this nation is still evolving as a democracy and until we have a firm handle on democracy, I would like to settle for smaller. thank you!!!
Whatever one thinks of World Government, we have the problem of al Qaeda dreaming of getting Pakistani nukes, and that the US providing a touch of order in this world, as al Qaeda more than dreams of a bankrupt America.
Maybe in hindsight we should have let France try to spread world justice and order instead of boycotting French Fries.
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You’re serious..really serious? A NWO shill at FDL?
Bluebutterfly,
At Capitol Hill Blue, Almandine systematically challenged my points without engaging in insults and name calling,
http://www.capitolhillblue.com…..ment-55061
By the way “NWO shrill” and the word “Zionist” is supposed to go together, However Israel is one of the strongest critics of the UN, and in no way lobbies for a different organization to replace it.
Too bad Bush didn’t appreciate France wanting to be the head honcho, and mediator. Many Americans agreed with Bush back then, and boycotted French Fries. Now Obama would appreciate France’s efforts but the new President of France no longer wants the job.
Many people talk almost gleefully about our country possibly totally falling apart, yet talk of world government with fear in their eyes.
Yes there is a lot to fear in a world government without sound institutions attached to it, but what everyone internally and externally trying to manipulate the US to do what it wants should be an even greater fear.
Think about it bin Laden wanted to drive the US out of sacred Saudi soil, but Bush removed US forces from Saudi Arabia in 2003. Bin Laden preferred the US being temporarily in charge of Afghanistan to the Northern Alliance slowing gaining power in a permanent way. And since many believe that Bush kept the US terror free for three years only with threats not some appeasement in Saudi Arabia, a new successful terror attack might get Obama out of office and the US out of Afghanistan, leading to bin Laden happy with the changes he made in this world.
A poorly run world government is a danger but certainly not the worse option there is for the future.
Ron Paul says “if we leave them alone they will leave us along” However the US as long as it has power it will be a temptation for many to try to manipulate it to do what it wants. And bin Laden wanting the US to act like an ogre to teach moderate Muslims a lesson is one of the manipulations we face.
By the way I can’t seem to update my profile link at firedoglake, and my email asking for help to do so didn’t yet work, for among other things the http:// isn’t filled in.
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It was a question..not an insult. You might not realize it, but NWO is not regarded as a good idea around here. You were definitely the first to suggest it is. If you say so..I don’t use the two together…ever. Who do you think financed bin Laden and the Northern Alliance? I can’t think of too many worse ideas than a poorly run world government as a reasonable option. The FBI doesn’t want Osama for 911 irregardless of the fact that he was blamed within half an hour of the first attack on the WTC. Why would Israel lobby for a replacement when it ignores all judgments made by the UN and the US vetoes them all? Out of Afghanistan? Not likely..gotta get that pipeline built no matter what it costs in human lives. Manipulate the US. Who does that? What country was the last one to attack the US? The list of acts to take away American citizens freedoms and rights since 911 is a long one. Not one of these acts was written by Osama. He didn’t lie to invade Iraq, either. The dead and displaced in Iraq weren’t caused by him. He didn’t take bids on Iraq’s oil fields in March 2001. He didn’t work to figure out how to bypass the UN to get control of Iraq’s oil revenue. He didn’t sign onto PNAC or Rebuilding Americas Defenses. Somebody unleashed a lot of changes aka death and destruction in other countries and it was not Osama. The biggest reason for attacks on soldiers is the torture done by the US and Bush okayed it. He sure didn’t keep the military safe.
NWO often refers to agreement between some movers and shakers rather than a publicly discussed world federation voted on by the countries or people around the world. And gets referred to when harsh rules are made for IMF loans. Bluebutterfly you seem, with me at least, to like to throw around NWO like some hurl the words communism and socialism around.
Bin Laden has dreams, and some Armageddon dreaming Christians and right wing Israeli’s see him as a blessing in disguise. The only really documentation is Richard Perle’s urging from before 9/11 that there needs to be a New Pearl Harbor to make America wake up to a dangerous world.
Bin Laden needed the United States to make moderate Muslims more militant, and prevent the Northern Alliance from slowly gaining permanent power in Afghanistan, and Cheney needed bin Laden.
When then Majority Leader Bill Frist was going to call for bipartisan detention reform following the Abu Ghraib photos being released, he was cut off the air by news of Nick Berg being beheaded. When Obama fist announced that he was planning to close Guantanamo that same day Al-Badawi who was involved in the bombing of the Cole was declared second in Command of Al Qaeda of Yemen, which helped those who wanted Guantanamo to stay open to argue their point.
Other groups like Hamas demand that their members be freed but al Qaeda die-hards are just ashamed they were captured alive.