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Banning Automatics & Armor Piercing Bullets Won’t Protect You & Me

5:22 pm in Uncategorized by RichardKanePA

We are getting a lot of nonsense. Cops don’t want bulletproof vest piercing bullets or want organized gangs or criminals or private militia groups to have automatic weapons. You and me get killed by a spooked-out mugger when a car backfires, or a mugger gets surprised by someone coming, or a road-raged driver.

People who can afford an automatic aren’t aiming at us, and thanks to insurance companies saying, ‘no guns for employees’, we ordinary folks don’t get hit by automatic-gun shootouts between bank robbers and tellers or on between the crew and pirates on the high seas. By the way it is the amateurs that tend to end up hitting others than what they aim at, those who don’t buy expensive automatics. But the $10 million that Dianne Feinstein, and now Obama, want ordinary folk to pay for cops in schools and very tight background checks isn’t going to come from the corporations or a tax on the rich, but from programs that make life more bearable for ordinary folk. Anything that will make students more and more desperate in the poor schools for them to have to chose between a gun, with a legal job in the armed forces, or illegally on the street will make those who do chose to earn money illegally, think that, one way or another, life with a gun is in their future, and where a legal job with a gun is constantly dangled in their face, if they choose an illegal job are more likely to choose one with a gun.

When it comes to ordinary folk killed Adam Lanza was rich like a gang kingpin with easy access to an expensive automatic weapon not usually the kind of person to be mad at ordinary persons. However he was mad at the kids his mother volunteered with at the local elementary school. If his mother liked to take care of sick animals , we would have had a different follow-up after he murdered his mother. But Adam spent almost his entire life either mopping in the corner or glued to a computer screen without exercise would have killed as many people with a small easy to handle gun. The little girl who played dead would have had less blood to hide under. James Holmes was also super-smart. Holmes was determined to mass kill ordinary folk in that movie theater and fortunately no one opened his slightly ajar apartment door with the ear-piercing music inside. If it became far easier to spray a chemical or something else to mass kill, than getting what people wanted to be a banned automatic, he wouldn’t have gone to his car to get a second automatic, after his overloaded big gun jammed, which was the one scenario that led to only 13 deaths.

Attention NRA! Insurance companies don’t allow armed school personnel in private schools. You and I will never be shot with a Teflon bullet, and thanks to insurance companies won’t be hit by the crossfire between organized gangs and workers in chain stores. If insurance companies paid for people harmed in public school incidents, and couldn’t put, ‘not good in times of war or acts of God’ into their insurance packages there might be a whole lot less mayhem and war in the world.

As far as seizing illegal ordinary guns, making illegal guns as hard to get or valuable as Oxycontin will lead to similar attempts to steal them, and will mean more gun deaths for you and me.

Interestingly somehow there is no war against meth or speed, like with some other drugs. Yes there is punishment, but the emphasis is an intense education campaign. If there was a meth type, or anti-smoking type education campaign against guns there would be much argument over its parameters, but there would be less guns on the street then by throwing people in jail. However a lot of crime is trying to steal a gun. Ads letting people know that their gun make their home attractive to thieves would not be controversial. Without being mandatory, one’s home would be safer if the gun was all marked up with a tracking device making it less attractive to steal. Homes have stickers: ‘Alarm attached to a alarm security monitoring company’s system’. The government can make it cheap and easy to have a sticker: ‘Guns are in a fingerprint locked alarmed safe’. Fingerprint locking boxes for a small pistol could be a side pouch. People could be reminded in ads that their gun in an arguement may be a temptation to be seized by those they argue with, but not in a fingerlocked pouch. And the police can use fingerprint locks on their holsters when intervening in a domestic dispute or when part of crowd control. In a traffic stop if there are two officers the one first going up to the car might be known, by being frequently stated, to have his holster fingerprint lock on to prevent any ideas of seizing it. Or the fear if I don’t shoot him he will shoot me first. Bobbies in London don’t want guns knowing that if the police have them criminals would want them also to try to protect themselves from being shot by the police,

In this country, it would make the one cop approaching with others in the background, less a target if he wasn’t a direct threat.

Interestingly, someone who gets a prescription drug that isn’t prescribed by a doctor, can get advice from a pharmacist on how it will mix with the prescriptions they already have, without the pharmacist keeping a record of use of prescribed medicine, thus saving lives. There were discussions locally of illegal immigrants being able to report serious crime without being deported. Someone with an illegal gun could be allowed to report something more serious, and if it’s probation violation they are guilty of get a special reprieve where they must report or come in twice a day. Anyway illegal guns are twice as serious because the owner can’t get involved in publicly stopping something more serious, and is more susceptible to being a victim because of it. Pennsylvania now (after many years of refusing) has turned over its public health records to the Federal government. Those who suddenly fear having sold a gun to an acquaintance should at least be encouraged to buy it back and publicly turn it in, or make a publicly recorded sale to someone allowed to have it.

Many worry that the $10 million Dianne Feinstein wants to spend on police in the schools will come
from programs that make poverty less of a desperation and thus end up encouraging gun crime. Others like the the Advancement Project, the ACLU and the NAACP especially the New York branch are very
upset that Obama’s proposals for more police in schools would make the School-to-Prison pipeline
worse.

The powers that be, ie the politicos in the top 10% of the top 1 % were furious that Obama allowed Occupy Wall Street, ie solidarity of the 99%, to take hold, and taught Obama a lesson in the 2010 Republican Congressional Landslide. So he is now playing the hot button issue game. It’s almost like Clinton won a third term in 2012 and is now President again.

But Conservatives were so overwhelmed in 2012, first in Romney’s nomination then with Obama’s landslide that they don’t bother to get involved much anymore, especially since whites are a shrinking minority, and it seems gay rights is irreversible. So now comes the gun-control issue to keep the 99% fighting with each other.

Eleven libertarian-leaning Republicans, and peace-leaning Democrats, signed a joint letter demanding defense cuts. Making domestic guns a central issue, interferes with libertarian-left cooperation on peace, drones and civil liberties issues. Just what the powers that be want.

http://www.phillyimc.org/en/liberals-and-progressives-against-gun-control-hysteria

http://www.readersupportednews.org/pm-section/437-2nd-amendment-rights/15423-green-qpeace-in-the-streetsq-rather-than-qgun-control-confiscationsq-green-party-and-justice-party-take-note

http://my.firedoglake.com/richardkanepa/

Ceasefire vs Gun-Control, Same Rules for ALL –Think if the Brass Could Smoke in the Cafeteria but not the Others

1:27 pm in Uncategorized by RichardKanePA

Ceasefire saves lives. A 50% reduction in gun crime in El Salvador has lasted for over a year after the government mediated with the gangs. Some good results in Los Angeles. Amazing results in Northern Ireland but the forgetful public now just thinks there is supposed to be peace over there.

 

 

Short summery:

We need the same rules, everyone is supposed to fasten their seat belts, everyone is supposed not to smoke in a cafeteria, no exemptions. Of course we say that some are allowed to smoke and some not because of age, but my guess this doesn’t cut down on the cancer rate, possible ends up increasing the number who eventually smoke for more years of their lives.

I find something very doable about everyone supposed to keep their guns in a locked gun closet or bag.

Even the police could have finger-print locking holsters. And a new culture where an road-raged driver would wave a gun bag around everyone including himself expecting he will use if he takes it out of the bag, not after he first starts to squeeze the trigger A poor mugger starving for a fix would have the gun locked in the gun bag part of the time if caught that way would get him in a whole lot less trouble.

 

 

Sadly the peace movement in the US has forgot the history of ceasefire and mediation. The real difference, when it comes to Israel and Palestinians is that the concept of mediation is still halfway still on the table. To the US peace advocates the subject is nonexistent when it comes to Afghanistan, while Afghan President Karzai has begged the Saudis even the Chinese and Iranians to become mediators, What if the US peace movement, media, and government got exciting and very cooperative with Karzai’s attempts? Gun-control advocates preach England but its really ceasefire in England since the corner police don’t have guns and don’t want them knowing that if they had them the criminals would want them to try to protect themselves from being shot by the police. Gun advocates preach Switzerland and Sweden with lots of guns and little gun crime but fail to note that these countries have never been involved in a recent war.

 

War, recent war, and neighborhood and domestic gun crime is overwhelmingly overlapping. More war equals more gun crime the statistics are overwhelming all over the world. In poor schools kids engulfed in as atmosphere that the only way to a good paying job is a gun: A gun with the government overseas, or a gun to raise money in the hood. A real peace effort would be to try to talk the kids in the hood to do without a gun and at the same time the US government to stop using them to pursue foreign policy objectives.

 

Every time the US has a war, even a social war, more gun crime and deaths result. This all the back to the war on Booze, then Communism, then Drugs, then Terror and now Gun Crime. It is true however that there are heavy penalties associated with Meth or Speed, but the emphasis is eduction as it is with cigarette smoking. Cutting smoking campaigns actually have some real success.

 

Finally the constant further overcrowding of the prisons had finally began to ease with suddenly far less marijuana long sentences, and far less ‘three strikes and you are out’ convictions but the ACLU, NAACP and Advancement Project are crying about Obama’s cops in schools proposals are refueling the School-to-Prison pipeline.

 

 

We can do it!

 

We can change US gun culture starting in Pennsylvania with its gun-ho anti-gun Philadelphia ready to make a push for a dramatic state swing, perhaps the largest gun shift in any state of the nation. If the Pennsylvania NRA were willing to go along with locking up guns rather than something more, the Supreme Court may change its ruling outlawing demanding keeping legal unconcealed guns unloaded and unlocked, providing the new law only requires guns to be locked with a finger-locking box which could easily be a side pouch for a small gun or a finger-locking holster for a police officer, or very rich hoodlum to be able to afford.

 

Of course an officer with a finger-locking gun holster is not really the same as an old duffel bag with a padlock on it but the concept of the same rules for all is important for a society to function.

 

We constantly cry that technology constantly makes the world more dangerous. Pushing finger-locking holders goes with beat of technology. This should be applied to all our problem, such as banning cell phones on the road is a very uphill battle but not an automatic recording that the phone is in a car in motion and after a 30 second delay the phone will ring in the car for emergency access, and the phone charges adjusted to encourage conversation in a car that is not moving, and a sugar tax going up or down depending on the percentage of non-sugar added beverages picked from the vending machine, rather than just a war on sugar. War on gun crime is not the way to go any more than a war on drugs and on booze.

 

As they say a car is a danger as is a gun. Let’s make guns locked up at least as frequent as seat belt now wearing in a car, not trying to solve the problem with huge punishments after something goes wrong.

 

 

For more detail see:

http://www.phillyimc.org/en/liberals-and-progressives-against-gun-control-hysteria

http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/419-gun-control-/15299-cell-phones-while-driving-and-guns-in-our-cities-is-the-solution-banning-them

 

 

 

I suspect this will still be pertinent for comments after comments close on FireDogLake later comments can be posted at my local site,

can be posted at my local site,

http://www.phillyimc.org/en/ceasefire-vs-gun-control-%E2%80%93-same-rules-all