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Lefties must defend Libertarians in this time of crisis, or Bernie Sanders might be next

10:28 pm in Uncategorized by RichardKanePA

 

Libertarians who want among other things a major cut in military spending are no longer involved in deciding budget issues.

 

A alternate impromptu budget committee of Libertarians and peace activists is needed to present their own joint proposal to Congress including major cuts in military spending,

http://peaceblog.wordpress.com/2012/11/28/cut-the-military-budget-first/

 

The entire Libertarian caucus had their Committee seats taken away from them on the Budget and also the Finance Committee, Justin Amash claims it is because they want to cut the Defense Budget. He has more space on his Congressional blog calling for Defense cuts than Bernie Sanders does.

 

Each time there was a budget impassive Bernie Sanders screamed real loud about the unholy compromises, but in the end he in the past voted ’yes’.

 

I would like everyone to meet Walter Jones, who recently was kicked out of the Finance Committee. once a super hawk and the author of Freedom Fries. Who more recently worked with Dennis Kucinich to work for peace. Please read about Walter Jones in Antiwar.com,

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2005/06/22/walter-jones-patriot-for-peace/

Please watch Walter Jones endorsing Ron Paul for reelection last January,

http://ronpaulflix.com/2012/01/congressman-walter-jones-endorses-ron-paul-jan-17-2012/

 

What an underground House/Senate Budget Committee might agree on: A 50% reduction in military spending plus 10% more each month the war continues.

 

Internet prescriptions and encouraging medical tourism with a 12% (1% a month for a year) kick back to those having doctor required surgery overseas. Ending the blockade of Cuba so many can retire there instead of a few to Mexico where it is less safe to stretch their Social Security dollars.

Comments from retirees, see comment and following ones, and my comment that proceeded it, for me to repeat in my blog comments from a private ordinary people without asking them in my mind would not be appropriate so please click on,

http://readersupportednews.org/off-site-opinion-section/83-83/14890-focus-the-fiscal-cliff-is-the-y2k-of-2012#comment-253227

 

Cuba may stop giving visitors free medical care, but most favored nation status and allowing Cubans to get high tech emergency care in the US in some kind of equal exchange could change that. Thus the world would be like it should be with different laws and values in different places supplementing each other.

 

Paul Ryan represents Michigan’s beef country. It is time to give up beef, maybe no beef or soda purchases with food stamps should be passed so Ryan can discover that food stamps haven’t been a drain,

http://beefmagazine.com/blog/was-rep-paul-ryan-right-vp-pick-romney

 

The ’powers at be’ want us to fight with each other over hot button issues, President Truman before he was President talked from the hip about being on both sides of a issue, but he definitively isn’t alone. Truman said during the war between Germany and Russia before World War II, if Germany is winning support Russia and vice versa, I think Rick Santorum wasn’t actually trying to be President but to discombobulate the 99%, he managed in part to get Wall Street out of the news and people talking about hot button issues instead. I suspect its not only Truman who can keep switching sides to get the fighting to continue

 

In the last election Muslim haters lost, those accused by their opponent of being ’Weak of Defense’ lost, young people and minorities did vote after all. Two Miami Cuban hardliners lost. The Orthodox Jewish vote shifted in the direction of Democrats. The only ones who called themselves conservative who were cheering not crying were the eight Ron Paul supported candidates in the House.

 

Will the budget debate mean that nothing was won after all or will in mean that a new more peaceful and frugal America has a few hundred more years left like England did after it was shocked by the American Revolution.

 

 

 

When comments close hear lively discussions continue at the following site,

 

http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/26-26/14914-lefties-must-defend-libertarians-in-this-time-of-crisis-or-bernie-sanders-might-be-next

Mistake, lively comments at the following site,

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/07/1168171/-Lefties-must-defend-Libertarians-in-this-time-of-crisis-or-Bernie-Sanders-might-be-next#comments

Comments on Ron Paul Libertarian supporting site at,

http://www.dailypaul.com/265734/lefties-must-defend-libertarians-in-this-crisis-or-bernie-sanders-might-be-next

 

Antiwar Clout in House, Senate and Elsewhere

10:43 am in Uncategorized by RichardKanePA

There are 12 co-sponsors to Dennis Kucinich’s bill to end the Afghan war, and significantly Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House, said that she wouldn’t try to block the vote, or do anything to push war funding through Congress,

http://www.truthout.org/topstories/121709vh9

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2009/12/kucinich_measure_to_end_…
Dennis Kucinich,(D-OH); John Conyers, Jr.; (D-MI); Ron E. Paul (R-TX); Roscoe Bartlett (R-MD); Bob Filner (D-CA); Walter Jones, Jr. (R-NC); Lynn Woolsey (D-CA); Edward Whitfield (R-KY); Michael Capuano (D-MA); Timothy V. Johnson (R-IL); Raúl M. Grijalva (D-AZ); Eric Massa (D-NY); and Alan Grayson (D-FL).

http://kucinich.house.gov/UploadedFiles/Privileged_Resolution_Afghanistan.pdf

Antiwar sites like antiwar activists need to get familiar with these people, and note there somewhat different perspectives in opposing the war. I hope someone could put this in the comment section, since I don’t know much about libertarians except for Ron Paul.

Besides Pelosi, John Murtha expressed meaningful doubts. Remember back in 2006 he was prevented from becoming Majority Whip because conservatives thought he was too shrill against the Iraq war. Rep. John Murtha is the head of the Defense Appropriation subcommittee, a potentially powerful position,
http://www.murtha.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=849&Itemid=1

http://appropriations.house.gov/pdf/Murtha_Unveils_FY10_DoD_Bill_07.16.2009.pdf

When it comes to the Senate, there is antiwar debate whether there is one or two Senators opposed to the war. Bernie Sanders statements are far weaker than Kucinich’s in the House,
http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=AC1314A9-69E4-4F9E-BB4E-A77A86B24A42

I think Senator Arlen Specter’s opposition to the Afghan war is even stronger than Sander’s but others disagree. Specter is strongly opposed to al Qaeda, but believes that the Afghan War only empowers al Qaeda. Some peace actives think this stance represents confusion. Note he has made strong attempts to convince administration officials, especially note his handwritten comments besides his signature,
http://specter.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=041d1e3d-508f-4e40-bdc6-b2e79f48d82f
Specter Statement on the war,

http://rawstory.com/2009/12/specter-i-persuaded-afghan-troop-buildup/

Some liberal Representatives who are upset with the war don’t want to further disrupt the progressive agenda with any harsh criticism of Obama. Specter, depending on what is happening on the ground, could offer them hope not to have to criticize Obama’s integrity.

On my earlier blog post, I mentioned Specter’s background on other issues. I hope people post comments on his earlier life there,
phillyimc.org/en/pa-got-peace-clout-if-we-would-only-notice

By the way if someone wants to see how Specter deals with things, in Philly on Dec 28 Specter will hold hearing on witness intimidation,
http://specter.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=NewsRoom.Events&ContentRecord_id=a34cda54-98c8-d259-f25f-f26ccb864501&Region_id=&Issue_id=

As I pointed out earlier, the war is more likely to end not because the next President like Nixon has a so-called secret plan to end it, but because GI’s somehow rebel against spending their entire life oversees after they thought they signed for two years. I won’t repeat my comments on young people left out in the cold, with no job and shunned by such places as soup kitchens. However, if you have a young relative you don’t want to end up in the military tell them that you would prefer that they never end up with a full time job than the end up coming back home disabled, if even only mentally, from war.

Obama made very limited statements on what his goals were with the war, something about preventing the Afghan Government from being defeated by the Taliban, and there has been behind the scenes negotiations. See,
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/node/427
http://www.ufppc.org/us-a-world-news-mainmenu-35/9167-background-us-involved-in-talks-with-afghan-taliban.html

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/author/richardkanepa

The Taliban may agree to try to turn over bin Laden, but only if the US makes assurance that it will leave anyway if they are unable to. Bin Laden could actually be dead. It would under any circumstances be hard to distinguish, between the Taliban making a real concession for peace or one that is only cosmetic. At any rate neocons who want America to have tension or be at war with a lot of Muslims and also defense contractors would say Obama sold out. And the section of the peace movement now claiming Obama is a totally fraud would have trouble coming to the defense of the peace deal. In the meantime unfortunately escalation will continue because like in Vietnam the choice, at each point, will be escalate further or get out. Somehow making life easier for those GI’s who complain about spending their entire lives in uniform, and helping unemployed youth, especially relatives, so they won’t be cornered into the army is probably the only thing that can be done in the name of militancy that won’t backfire.

For more on Specter see,
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/node/428

http://richardkanepa.blogspot.com/2009/12/pa-got-peace-power-if-we-would-only.html

To comment on Specter history, I would prefer comment at my previous post, if it’s not too late to post,

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/19396

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