The reaction to hearing this morning on one of the new shows to the term “Father’s Day Weekend”! most likely is one of those learned ones, developed many years after believing there was a real Easter Bunny that brought me eggs. Okay, I got dyed eggs while neighbors got candy; but no, I was once so innocent it never occurred to me that I was being had.
Not long after my kids got into the pre-teen years I did learn to take everything with a grain, or maybe a shaker, of salt. That’s when Mother’s Day, Father’s Day, even birthdays became artificial inducement to give gifts; and in our somewhat sophisticated view, especially as my kids made sure we knew, we had a superior and totally wise attitude. I know what you’re thinking, Mom and Dad were not supposed to expect gifts, but actually it was better than self-serving. My kids still gave those gifts, but larded with presentations like “Happy Commercial Invention for Buying Things Because You Bore Me, in the good sense, Mom!”
In my experience, the kids born in the sixties and later had a different relationship with the ads they were subjected to. It was for my kids very different from the ones we, new to television and its intensive development of a young audience for the purposes of selling us stuff they shouldn’t have, grew up with.
The breakfast in bed routine never got off the ground in my cookstove challenged family. Dinner out was much easier on everyone all around. Now that they’re out of town, of course, that often means a visit or a gift card, or something that comes in a package. Usually it’s funny, but it’s always sweet. I do feel guilty, but not so guilty that I return anything.
What is new, or is old, in your family’s experience with those commercial appeals to go out and buy? Are there traditions you like, or awkward attempts to do something appropriate to make the Mom/Dad feel special?
Birthdays, celebrations of the usual holidays, have you got ways of handling them that try to avoid the commercialism they so often demand? Of course, the t-shirt with the dragon on it with a card that says “You Rock” works for me. It’s the best kind of reminder that I’ve got a special place in the kids’ consciousness. However, really, as they know well, my favorite gift these days is a visit, or when that’s not possible, a call.
How do you handle events that aren’t really special, do you discourage these commercial pressures, and how does that work?




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Morning, pups.
Hey, Ruth
Happy Back In Texas Weekend to ya. Here’s some Yellow Roses.
Lifetime project to avoid being had by the marketers. Shakespeare lacked prioity. First we kill the marketers. Then everyone can work half as much cause we don’t want as much and don’t need as much money and don’t kill off the planet so much.
Good morning y’all. Happy Saturday.
What a wonderfull and thoughtfull topic Ruth. Thank you.
Thanks, the house didn’t blow away, guess we’ll have to clean the windows.
Remember New Coke? Seems your career is obviously not in marketing analysis.
Forgot to say good morning as usual, perhaps you will have one nevertheless. Expressing love with material never had much feeling for me. There are better ways. Listening intently and saying what you heard is one way.
This is, of course, the weekend for the U.S. Open golf tourny and the 24 Hours of LeMans. 2 events I enjoy a great deal. My family lets me watch both. Happy Father’s Day to me. (yes, I am a simple guy)
Thanks, I do have memories of getting dinner made for me that was (1) terrible and (2) required me to be very nice about it and (3) broke two of my irreplaceable crystal glasses.
It’s a day like any other day – which is to say that I intend to savor it, wring out every drop of goodness, and if my kids call that would be good too. I am confident that no one will be buying stuff to compensate for, or contribute to guilt. I could not be clearer that such things would be unnecessary, and perhaps a sign that I have failed.
Sweet.
Enjoy it, as you were intended to.
Morning Ruth and firedogs. Thank you Ruth for the topic.
My family always finds it difficult to shop for me, be it birthday, Christmas, or Father’s Day. I have very few things I want in the world and when I decide I want them I typically go out and get them for myself. A new book, a new pair of jeans, a new chef’s knife… Those are the things I do for myself on occasion.
Now, my wife told me yesterday ‘I’m spending $150!’ and left. When she came home she spent a few minutes in the garage and then forbid me going in there until Sunday.
I’m stuck. I’ve been puzzling over this for 24 hours plus now and I can’t think of anything I want that would cost that much damn money and have to be hidden in a garage!
Hope you don’t get a single thing! (okay, that’s being silly)
I remember one occasion, either a mother’s day or a birthday, when I came home to a livingroom that was all decorated up with crepe paper streamers and home made Mom, We Love You type posters taped to the walls. That was pretty neat. And, I remember it!
Morning Ruth and Pups,
Thanks for thinking of us dads. My father’s day gift is that my teen wants to exercise the choice of which of two homes to spend the most time at.
For joelmael, that should be “marketeers,” @3 and yes, you have nailed the obvious and most expedient, but often overlooked solution.
They added sugar. They keep doing that as our taste buds accommodate, so they add more and more. And now look where we are. We have a tax on sugar or price supports or something but a tax to double the price would help.
The real job of a parent. Display both the wisdom of discerning intent and grace in the face of less than stellar result.
Okay, that needs us to guess. It’s 150 dollar bills folded into the shape of your favorite pet/animal companion!
HaHaHa I know who the winner is.
good morning, Ruth.
you know that i’m like you; i gave a goat to a poor family in the kids’ names for the mandatory gift giving holiday and the kids got all their material stuff from other relatives. gift is a funny word; i remember a discussion in a philosophy class once about the definition. is it really a “gift” if you can afford it? was the question.
^^^^^ toughest Dad to shop for. If my family thinks I’m bad, try being his son.
Nice. Coupons for doing dishes involved?
Great News. That should make things work a little easier for everyone. :) Hopefully.
I heard a couple of terrible statistics the other day.
- The number 1 source of calories in the American diet is soda
- If every teenager in America cut out 1 soda a week they would cut out 50,000 calories a year.
This country has gotten so gross. I don’t drink soda. I stick to water and coffee.
Oh, wow, I haven’t thought of those little coupon books for a really long time.
Good for One Hug.
Good for One Hour of yard work.
Good for One Bathroom Cleaning.
…
Don’t say asswipe! Mom’s got the window open.
Neither a father nor a mother am I. I don’t get a day. Oops, now I have given the filthy marketeers an idea.
That’s hopeful. I do hope you have a great gift coming.
The kind you have been giving.
:)
It would be nice if they just presented me with the cash. I’ve got a feeling it’s a smoker, which I would use often.
I would totally make my own sausages!
I can afford doing dishes, anyway. Yep, I was impressed to hear that your whole family thought the Heifer Project was a great idea, too.
We can have a national Unencumbered Regular Peoples’ Day!
From a
childyoung adult who is less than open about personal thoughts and feelings, I am gleefully impressed with the thought, judgement and determination that I see being expressed.Now I’ll always see you as Sweeney Todd, ha, Kris.
You must be the only one that got that. Thanks for the belly laugh this morning.
All,
For those of you that are unaware; Kris is one of my sons. He moved to Texas from California 1 year ago this weekend. He lives just down the road about a mile and a half. It has been a treat for me that defies description having him and his wonderfull family near. We have developed a ritual of lunch on Saturday with other son Ollie that I look forward too all week. I get Fathers Day gifts all year.
(yes, it is pretty cool to be me)
Happy Unattached Parental Unit Day!
You are teaching her Well.
I thought it was a given that all kids go through a phase where many reactions to parents are, Yeah, Whatever.
Having to split soon, taking a class in nonviolent communication today (cnvc.org) Some us consider ourselves trainable.
And here’s one that’s good for one Chair pulled up – here you go.
You looked pretty damn cool last night cruising down 1660.
Is that a Huffy? That’s a nice bike, son.
Good morning demi!
You can see me as Sweeney Todd. I’d rather than that some other Johnny Depp characters. :)
Not a Huffy, one of those Hurley Furgesons.
(good one by the way)
That sounds like a real treat. Being brought up with no family around, I nissed that kind of attachment, would have loved it, I think.
Lucky all of you!
An hour or two in the park fishing with my son and grandson is always nice for this weekend.
I miss dad. But, I miss him every day and this weekend won’t be much different. My sonny graduated HS last night and I wish pop could have been there.
We are going camping on Sunday for a few days and I always think about pop who taught me everything I know about camping.
Yes, there will be salmon. :) And, beer.
No chocolate factories for you?
Or maybe it is $150 of adoption fee and necessary accoutrements for his favourite pet or anomal companion :)
Good morning, pupses, and Happy Father’s Day weekend to all the dads and nurturers out there. Thanks, Ruth.
Just hi and bye this morning. Have fun y’all.
hey, i’ve gone to a bunch of nvc workshops and am going to a new practise group. i thought a previous comment of yours this morning sounded like you’d experienced nvc. what part of our world are you located in?
Oops, animal, not anomal :)
Got choked up typing about it. It really is special for me. I do think it is fairly apparent that Kris is a really good guy.
Sounds really nice. Funny, we were looking at my late father’s bamboo, home made, fishing poles still out in the garage just a couple of days back.
Pull up a chair and sit on the floor.
Thanks for dropping by, good guess.
Hey, GW….how did it go at the Doc? Hope all is well.
i’ll testify to that. the whole family is great from top to bottom.
Hopefully, PUAC is the pups’ version of same.
My first incredible impression of Kris was when he said to a cranky commenter I’ll love you until you can love yourself. Just impressed the heck out of me and knew that you and cbl had done a remarkable job as parents.
You must have some of my sort of chair, sometimes the floor is safer.
Not if I have to be that creepy. Depp’s Wonka (while a great performance as an actor, although quite a bit like the character in the Pirates films) was a bit too creepy for my taste.
Have a super weekend, Om.
the new cast is traumatizing me. it’s too long to bend my arm. plus the doc said i need to aggressively deal with my thinning bones (osteoporosis) once this bone is healed. i’ll need to get the cast redone, but not before i see whether the organic cotton flannel lining we used this time makes the cast easier to bear on my skin.
Oh you :) How are you feeling?
Yeah, but it gets more challenging to Get Up as time goes by.
discouraged about 3 more months in a cast.
I can be a pretty grumpy guy, but I try to live my life by looking at everyone I encounter through a lens of love. In the situations where I can’t love them I at least try to consciously recognize that they deserve to be loved.
(you’re makin me blush)
Hope the wing is healing up. How is the irritation doing? Has that subsided any at all? Did the doc try and help at all?
Thanks demi. More like despite having us as parents though.
Wow, that is so long….Im sorry. Can he tell if it looks like you are mending well?
I saw your comment @60 :(
I’m sorry this has turned into such a long and drawn out ordeal. Sending you healing vibes.
GW just saw your 60. Never mind.
well, the doc allowed me to bring my own lining material to try. it took his medical assistant way longer to apply the cast as she was working with something she wasn’t used to. i was glad both of them were flexible enough to give it a try.
we won’t know that for a few months apparently.
Ha. I realize that I should give Kris a lot of credit too.
Hope you can keep your mind off of it, by talking to us pups, anyway.
And, really, isn’t Love the greatest gift of all.
That and whatever is in the garage. :)
Pretend you really sat there to do your calisthenics?
We’ll all be hoping. Can you tell if the new material is helping?
Thanks demi,
But it is as much, if not more, the student, as it is the teacher in most cases.
I have a huge to-do list and family here from out of state. A great weekend for all of the fathers showing up here is my wish.
Fatherhood, the gift that keeps on giving.
Oh, and thanks for hosting again, Ruth.
both my parents are gone.
at mother’s day, it felt kind of empty not sending flowers to my mom. they always delighted her so much.
my dad i pretty much miss all the time. he was such a kind and caring person. he never really wanted anything. you couldn’t pry him loose from his comfortable old pajamas and flannel shirts. my mother just had to keep mending them.
If it is a smoker I am so buying a grinder attachment for my KitchenAid so we can make our own sausage. (fingers crossed)
Whatever the Thing In The Garage That Must Not Be Named ends up being, it’s motivated by love :) That’s what makes it great.
i’m not sure yet.
Uh, yeah, right. That’s what I meant.
I actually did buy something yesterday that we’ll call a father’s day present. A fish grilling basket. And, I think I will buy a kite today to take for the beach camping.
Not many doctors are that patient… oops, wrong word?
Enjoy the fam, nonquixote.
thanks for your kind words, and the good you do all around.
I’m sorry to hear about your folks. My wife’s father is gone and on his birthday every year we do something that would have made him happy.
Good to have the fond memories, at least.
I’m on Galveston Island, TX. I haven’t done CNVC as such but I read the book years ago and done some related things. I am hoping a practice group will form out of this one day class at my local UU.
At least it won’t break and yes, I recall trying to find that right touch.
thanks for the good company. my belly is saying, “breakfast. now.”
Lovely place, that. Seeing roseate spoonbills, especially.
For that you could always have some yoghurt, for the bones. Thanks for dropping by.
Off to start the day. Much to do.
Thank you, Ruth. Be well GW, warm healing thoughts your way.
{{{demi}}} (just because)
See you in a bit son.
RevBev,
Come up and join us for lunch. Take the 130 toll road to 79 east. About a mile and a half. Suffy’s Place, on the east side of the second Shell station. Around noon.
It’s a happy coincidence that we found a couple of camping sites that were open and we could do some celebrating. And, cool camping stuff always works well as a present. Like the LED lantern I found.
Thanks for coming by, and too bad I’m not close enough, I’d be tempted to join you too.
Many blessings and lotsa hugs to All of Youz.
And, enjoy the race. When my pop was in the hospital, near the end, I was sitting with him and we were watching some race car thing on tv – he was from Indianapolis and loved racing – and I whispered into his ear, Be the race car, daddy. Just zoom.
Hey Ruth, Pups. I’m unable to sit in this chair for long periods of time today so this will be a sparsely attended PUAC for me.
Me too! When I found out there was no Santa, (honestly I never believed in Santa for similar reasons I never fully bought into religion, too implausible), I was much more upset and baffled by having been lied to about it for the first five years of my life than by the fact that my belief he didn’t exist being confirmed. I was an incredibly gullible child though and would at first willingly believe what anybody I loved told me, simply because I didn’t want to think that they would knowingly tell me a tall tale and present it as fact.
Nice post!
One of my favorites is camp food, and my daughter loved that dehydrated ice cream that the space program invented best of all. Enjoy the camping, too.
Thanks, and glad to see you. Really!!
Yep, that naivete can cause some painful times. Are you really serious, there’s no Santa?
Good Morning, Peggy.
Sorry to hear about the not sitting for a long time. Same problem as before? At least you won’t have to perform self-surgery if necessary this time.
Having met oldnslow and the lovely cbl, I’m unsurprised at the person they have raised Kris to be but impressed nevertheless. And Bev, you won’t count the drive up to see them a wasted trip if you go!
Yep, same prob I posted here before. I knew it would make a comeback because of course I couldn’t get in there and fully excise the area. I have an appointment for Wednesday though. w00t! for health insurance!
I wish you could go with us. I’d scoop out a hole in the sand and plunk you down. And, no, I didn’t say a Big Hole. :)
Are you guys headed for the beach then? I hope you have a great time!
Glad you can get that done on the insurance this time.
Yep. But, the camp sites are in a small canyon with sycamore trees and the beach is just on the other side of the highway. So, best of two worlds, and no sand in the tent. Doggie boy will be in 7th heaven.
Me too! I just hafta last until Wednesday!
When you were in the service in CA, did you ever go to Point Mugu? There’s an air base there, I think. Sycamore Canyon State Park is near there.
I have a broom for that, bought in the sales just after Halloween. Always gets a chuckle.
Keeping you on your toes, no doubt. Sorry, you do realize I cannot resist bad jokes, right?
Thanks for reminding me to take a broom. We usually do, but, ya know, sometimes something gets left out of the truck when we pack.
I just checked the weather and it’s going to be cloudy and cool – highs in the mid 60′s. I guess I better go buy lotsa wood.
BTW, Phoenix Woman above with a good post on cooperative venture making a success of it in Spain.
In point of fact I deployed to Pt Magu where we shared a hanger with HAL 5 and tried to locate and chase down an F-14X that had been painted with a new radar scattering coating. (I guess I can talk about that now since it was 25 years ago). I know exactly where it is. Near the onion/hay fields and almost right on the beach!
I make a list and then forget the list, typically.
I appreciate a bad joke most of the time, pain notwithstanding. ;)
LMAO! That’s also something I would do. Like owning four reusable grocery bags but only remembering to bring them about half the time.
You can count on getting lots to appreciate, then.
I keep mine in the trunk of the car, now.
And still forget them some of the time.
Yep. This sort of ailment lends itself readily to potty humor. Talk about a pain in the ass!
Not a bad idea but that doesn’t mean I won’t leave them in the trunk while I walk into the store!
A ha! See, I can put 2 and 2 to
We all get a laugh in the end, anyway. (ooooh)
gether…
or not to gether.
Ya know? Sometimes I’m just typing away and bam, the messege gets submitted all on its own. :)
Speaking of lists, I’ve got a kind of long one to work on. Stuff to do.
Thanks, Ruth, for this post. Another “Nice” PUAC.
Not leaving until mid day tomorrow, so, I may see you in the morning for a bit, all ya’ll.
My father has been gone a good long while. I think of him often.
On Father’s Day my gift to him and to myself is to sit in a quiet place, close my eyes and remember all the good things that he did for me.
Have terrific times, camping.
That’s a good way to remember – and so good to have those memories.
Of course you can. Even though you’re a blond….
too twue
I think of my dad too and I miss him a lot. I just wish that my memory of him wasn’t tainted by the fact that in the last years if his life he went from being conservative to full on Dittohead, right wing nutbag! And he, a member of MENSA for life was susceptible to that poison. :(
Duck, Magnum, duck!
Something in the water. Mine retired and became a delegate to the Dixiecrat convention that nominated Geo. Wallace, from being a functional human for the most part of his life.
Is it really that hard to give or receive gifts without worrying about the contamination of commercialism?
I think that’s sad.
Margaret @ 130
I believe the path to extreme conservatism is not an intellectual journey, but an emotional reponse.
Good morning, everyone. Sorry to miss all of the morning gathering gs this week, but not sorry I am in sunny CA. Nice topic. My parents have been gone a long time (since the ’80s). I still send my kids and their spouses Father’s Day and Mother’s Day cards….just because. Just mailed the Father’s Day cards yesterday, so they won’t arrive til early next week, but they were funny and very appropriate for each of them, so I bought them anyway.
That should be “morning gatherings.” I guess the iPad burped.
I’m hep but you misunderstood. I was saying that he became that way in spite of being brilliant, not because of it. Sorry I was unclear.
An emotional need to connect was the case in my father’s life, sadly – here he got acceptance by being part of the mindset.
Thanks…I didn’t see this til late, so can’t make it. Raincheck please….I had been thinking what nice folks you must be. Would love to do that….have to figure out the route…;)
That’s nice, and such fun for your kids.
In my Dad’s case, it was his girlfriend. She was a Dittohead, therefore Dad was.
I had hoped you would drop by, old gold.
A bunch of Luther friends from ’77 and ’78 are meeting in Decorah next weekend for trout fishing, golfing, biking , and remembering.
Friends for life.I can’t wait!
Soli deo gloria
demi,
I just googled Sycamore Canyon Sate Park. It looks great.
Congrats on the son’s graduation. My stepson graduates next year.
Have a great time camping.
Thanks for stopping by, and I hope you have a great time.
JClausen
A weekend in the Oneota Valley with good friends sounds like fun.
The other night while chewing on a tasteless factory pizza, I had a pleasant memory of Mabe’s pizza.
I used to live on Ronnie’s rolls, Whippy Dip cones and Mabe’s pizza.
And, I might have downed an occasional barley pop at Eddie’s.
I hope you and your fellow Norsemen have a good weekend.
Soli deo gloria.
OMG, Peg. That is too funny. I haven’t seen it for a long time. Thanks.
Thanks, JC. It’ll be a great but challenging year for your ss. He’s lucky to have you for a dad, that’s for sure.
We’ve never stayed at Sycamore but have driven through it, just to check it out. Now, we get to really experience it.
I pulled the deck of cards out of my desk and set them on top so that I won’t forget. Sonny and I ritually play rummy on these trips.
I didn’t think to congratulate the son on his great night, graduation being a highlight of anyone’s progress. Good going, Son of demi!
Would that be the Silver Lake Whippy Dip?..
No. Here it is in all it’s architectural glory.
I am impressed, I must say :)
Ours must be a close relation, here is its sign….
Really liked your animal and bird photos. Isn’t Phoebe a beauty? There are a few shots of our little female red throated hummingbird on my photostream. A male shares the feeder with her, so I hope there might be a nest nearby.