(Picture courtesy of mhaithaca at flickr.com.)
Foreign media and news once again is the emphasis I continue in recollection of Southern Dragon and this week perhaps the videos and links will all work for you.
Water shortages will again be the lead feature that we address first, and as in this country, growing drought stresses population in Africa and elsewhere. In some areas of the southern continent, hydroelectric generation has been prevented as water levels aren’t up to needs determined long ago in estimates of prospects for the future that are now no longer viable.
The intense drought in the northeast of Kenya has already claimed several lives, the International Committee of the Red Cross says, and doctors say they fear that the number of people who die due to starvation could yet rise.
Tanzanian power outages
The drought has also forced Tanzania’s state-run power company to announce daily 12-hour electricity outages, as low water levels at hydropower dams and a shortage of fuel for thermal power generation have made it impossible for it to meet demand.
“The Tanzania Electric Supply Company (TANESCO) regrets to inform its customers … that it has been forced to extend power rationing to all regions connected to the national grid, including Zanzibar,” the company said in a statement seen by the Reuters news agency on Saturday.
TANESCO said that water levels at the country’s main hydroelectric dams were almost below the minimum level required for generation.
The Europeans have chosen to end passing profits on to executives of their banks, as a needed preventive measure to keep from encouraging mismanagement.
European Union officials have struck a provisional deal on new financial rules, including capping bank bonuses.
Under the agreement, bonuses will be capped at a year’s salary, but can rise to two year’s pay if there is explicit approval from shareholders.
Entrepreneur Jin Zingmen offers 200,000n yuan ($32,082.60) for environmental official to swim twenty minutes in his polluted local river.
“If the environmental protection bureau chief dares to swim in [Ruian's] river for 20 minutes, I will pay [him] 200,000 yuan [HK$246,000],” Jin wrote on Sina Weibo.
In three photos Jin posted, a river in small-town Ruian is seen entirely blocked by floating rubbish. Jin blamed a rubber overshoe factory for dumping industrial waste into the river.
This river was where villagers used to wash vegetables and clothes in his childhood, Jin told Chinanews.com.
To the surprise of absolutely no one, Italy rejected a failed austerity plan the autocrats seem to think can be foisted off on the public that’s already suffered economic disasters at their hands since 2008.
Three years of German-led austerity and budget cuts aimed at saving the euro and retooling the European economy was left facing one of its biggest challenges as Italian voters’ rejection of spending cuts and tax rises opened up a stark new fissure in European politics.
The governing stalemate in Rome and the vote in the general election – by a factor of three to two – against the austerity policies pursued byItaly‘s humiliated caretaker prime minister, Mario Monti, meant that the spending cuts and tax rises dictated by the eurozone would grind to a halt, risking a re-eruption of the euro crisis after six months of relative stability.
The Beeb (BBC) has its own sequester to promote, nothing like the silliness our Congress has blundered into – as its solution to maintaining the full faith and credit of our country.
Did you and the SO have plans for the next couple of years? and are you middle aged? then Inspiration Mars Foundation has a great plan for you to take a trip. An older couple is the Right Stuff for their as yet unfunded Mars outing, and back.
… conditions would be squeezed and spartan, with no room for pressurised space suits. The report suggests that 1,360kg of dehydrated food will be enough to last the journey and the manifest includes 28kg of toilet paper for a crew of 2 for 500 days.
But the issue of radiation protection according to Mr Ojha is “glossed over” with the recognition that more work and “creative solutions” need to be explored. More work will also need to done to improve recycling technologies to convert urine into water.
This may be a perfect lab for relationship testing, are you brave and very tolerant?
Brave New World for; Never.give.up.




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Good morning, Ruth. Nice as always.
Thanks, I need the eggs.
At the rate water is disappearing right here on our own planet, as I see it, there will be no need to travel to Mars, drinking our own urine, because we’ll already be doing that.
Morning, Ruth, thank you, and a RIP to SouthernDragon.
I didn’t sleep well last night, so I decided to just make coffee and lay in wait in the weeds, for Over Easy. Thanks.
Thanks, glad you got up for the early crowd. I seriously encountered the water dry up in N.TX. for a few years, am going to high ground. Where I lived used to be a very good ‘truck farming’ area, good soil and climate for veggies. Not anymore.
Maybe I’ll make some this morning. After I get off this @#*&%$ exercise bike (10 minutes to go).
I didn’t sleep well either, thinking about a sewing problem. Trying to sew a fleece jacket for granddaughter, and the pattern instructions are incorrect, so I’m on my own. I may never buy another McCall’s pattern. I’ve been sewing since I was about 25, not sure what those who are learning do with this.
Sorry,OT.
Brave of you to try. Is fleece hard to sew? I can imagine it bunching up, have to keep the pressure light.
Recently we were cooking a product that had the directions wrong, if we’d followed them we’d have melted the plastic film on top into the lasagne. Eeek.
Keeping in mind that Al Gore is fat, what do the climate change deniers plan to do now that their bottom line is being impacted?
The Mississippi is almost impassable and next year it will be worse. Great lakes water levels are down and I think there’s going to be a fight about releases this year that will make prior arguments look like rock, paper, scissors.
The Columbia river is about to get nuked, if it hasn’t already.
And the LA river and Rio Grande are almost gone before they reach the sea.
The fight between growers and cities in Calif over water will be epic this year and the cities might win. So higher food prices.
Boxturtle (I could go on, but I’ve already made Al let out his belt a notch)
Good morning Ruth, msmolly and fellow firepups.
Kids finally going back to school today. (It was a zoo at my house yesterday.) :)
We’ll need to go the desalinization route. AFAIK, that’s the MOST expensive source of water currently available.
Prediction: Most of the costs of that will be covered by residential ratepayers. Almost none will be covered by growers or water intensive industries like fracking.
Boxturtle (And I’d bet a few quatloos on that prediction)
I heard that Texas was hit pretty hard by the drought. We could likely never be able to afford to live in Texas, given their deregulated electricity grid. Don’t think we could pay the power bill, especially in the heat.
I bought a “walking” foot that moves the fabric from the top and the bottom, so it’s not bad. But you can’t transfer the pattern markings, and ripping out stitching is a nightmare so I’ve been extra deliberate and careful.
This is the second McCalls pattern to have major errors in both the text and the drawings of particular steps. I wrote an unhappy letter to them about the first one last summer, and got no response at all. I may write about this one, attach last summer’s letter, and tell them I won’t buy another from them. The pattern is (mis)labeled “Easy!” and a beginning sewer would be totally lost.
The water situation is going to get sudden notice this growing season, for sure. On the Rio Grande, there is already a legal fight over Mexico’s use of its long established water rights. And on the Red River, the dispute is over Dallas’ buying from water producers that have questionable rights.
I don’t think anybody is learning. I had to give my mom’s top of the line singer away to charity, there was no interest from family and friends. Or friends of friends.
If the current sewers don’t start teaching, the only machines around in a decade will be in a museum.
Boxturtle (Load her machine up with steel thread, and my Mom could sew you a bridge)
What a shame. Maybe Bain Capital bought them out.
Box! *snif* I got paranoid, and thought you were maybe mad at me. I’m having a mental day.
Fracking will simply deplete our declining water supply. For that reason alone it doesn’t make sense. I would like to learn more about desalinization, and, well, I need to re-study the water supply and cycle. A while back, somebody put up an excellent teaching link about water. Was it USGS? I can’t remember.
It certainly is becoming a lost art. During the depression, everyone sewed.(Nowadays we just buy sweat shop clothing manufactured under slave labor conditions.)
Oh, BT, I love that tag line! Go Mom!!
Herre’s USGS but it wasn’t that. It was some cool site with interaction and a planet picture and all those learning tools I love, because I have the attention span of a gnat.
Remember hearing about planned obsolescence? We used to patch things up.
We are losing our precise arts as fast as our water. You don’t even want to know how many vintage Singers, canning jars and the like, that I have pulled from dumpsters, only to have to resort to (this is the truth) scrapping the machines for metal. Nobody uses them. That said, I will give our town a shout-out for this much: Paducah, Ky is the quilting capitol, still.
Maybe NOAA?
http://www.noaa.gov/
You’d think with their deregulation that coal plants would be popping up everywhere in Texas. Coal is cheap, as long as you don’t have to keep it clean.
Boxturtle (Well, cleaner. No such thing as clean coal)
Good morning firedogs. Thanks for the post and host Ruth.
Glad to see Italians rejecting further austerity. Good for them.
This water situation is rough. Our area of CenTex briefly emerged from drought conditions last year, but the reprieve only lasted about 45 days and our surplus vanished. We now have a deep deficit against average rainfalls again, having seen less than an inch in the last 50 days or so.
This is our rainy season, and the next 10 days of forecast show only a 30% chance of showers next Friday.
I think there is probably a lot of computerization between a design and the actual manufacture of the pattern, and then they assign people to write the directions who have little sewing experience, so they don’t get tested.
On the topic of water, I’ve known that good snowfall is helpful to ameliorate drought, but until nonquixote mentioned it here a while back, it didn’t occur to me that a snow “blanket” keeps the ground from freezing so deeply, making it ready for planting sooner.
My 86 year old mother has made quilts for all the grandkids as did her MIL before her. Our Lutheran church has sent thousands of quilts from their “Do Days” on Monday where they all quilt for charity.
(Another reason I love small town Iowa).
Quilting is ‘in’, but sewing not yet. I got a table model vintage Singer for $5 at a yard sale, have yet to have it refurbished and actually use it, but regard it as a treasure.
Good Morning Ruth and Pups,
US announced $60M financially reinforcing, “moderate,” Syrian rebels who have teamed up with Islamist fighters to overthrow existing Syrian government. What could possibly good wrong?
Full time job the last few days, moving snow. Ain’t complaining, might be enough to float a canoe this summer.
And I expect lawsuits against the Corps of Engineers regarding Mississippi water releases or lack thereof. Is spending on lawyers considered “economic stimulus”?
Right now, we’ve got too much water where I am. Flooding today, drought tomorrow.
Boxturtle (How long before the Teatards are accusing the Scary Browns of stealing our water?)
To Mars Bitches!
Where is your wife?
I ate her.
But why?
She ate all the peanuts.
Science! Yum Yum. Eat em up.
http://www.myspace.com/video/long-duckdong/the-little-rascals-1933-the-kid-from-borneo/48572749
Yes, sort of, it was similar, I was even thinking National Geographic, but I checked, and it wasn’t them, although they are good. If I find it today, I’ll share it.
In TX, the state is fighting to keep EPA from having any power over regulated industry. EPA has declared several business out of compliance with livable standards, but the state is contesting the orders to shut down. (No one is being given any help with breathing the polluted air.)
Those vintage machines are just so beautiful. And heavy! It was a sick feeling, taking a vintage Singer to recycle.
Don’t worry, I’m not currently mad at anybody not on the Supreme Court. And I’m only made at them because of Attaturks post.
All you need to know about desalinization is:
1) it’s very energy intensive. You’re using large, high pressure pumps to force water through a semipermeable membrane and your efficiency is low.
2) Common contaminants can screw up the entire process, so you have to have your inlets well offshore and reasonably deep. And you have to pre-process the water.
3) The brine emitted from the outlets is too much for sea life until it gets diluted.
Boxturtle (But it does produce good water)
The land is going to be for sale cheap, anyway. Do not know who’s going to be growing the stuff to eat.
I’ll tell you, I have never sewn or quilted, although my mother did…but..our quilt museum is jaw-dropping. There are also barns here with quilt logos. Beautiful. The Hancock’s fabric store here is, like, the size of a Costco, and it’s worth a visit, even if you have never sewn anything in your life.
It does look as if the Assad government has to go, but we’ve let so many other murderous regimes coast along, it’s hard to say we should get involved now. And on budget, at that.
Interesting side note” Would you believe there’s still demand for pedal powered machines? Ask any charity working in Central or South America and they’d LOVE to have ‘em. They’ll work without electricity.
I was shown a photo of a lady using one, while her children sat on the floor and had a great time pushing the pedal.
Boxturtle (I still remember the look on my wife’s face when she learned about quilt prices)
Good morning everyone.
Thank you for the post Ruth. The eggs are very tempting this morning.
Yep, hate to see good stuff scrapped. The recycling business in N.TX. inspired theft of a lot of empty houses’ metal for awhile, now have to check and record your i.d. But I did some cleaning out of old metal to get the little bit of cash, instead of putting stuff out by the curb, so it’s also a good thing.
I have to admit there are times when i wish the EPA would just throw up their hands at Texas and say “Okay, fine. YOU try to live in the environment you’re creating. We’ll just sue you when you hurt something else”.
Boxturtle (Either that, or show up with the FBI and shut ‘em down by force)
Kerry was just on the radio speaking, “authoritatively.”
My mother had an old treadle Singer and I used to sew on it occasionally.
Thanks, a favorite of mine. Now we have a source for farm eggs, too.
Morning, Pups.
As I am neither very brave nor very tolerant, I guess I’ll stay earth-bound.
(Ruth – I watched Sense and Sensibilities last night, for the first time, and thought about our past jokes about Jane Austen at PUAC.)
I still think this deal would work: We go to the Russians and say “look, you can keep your client and your naval base. You pick the next leader, as long as he’s good enough with the citizens to stop the civil war. You pack up Assad and his supporters off to Moscow. We promise we won’t do anything to extradite him beyond pontificating, which you may ignore”.
Boxturtle (The Russians could end this in 48 hours, if they wanted to)
Can we wait a few minutes before the wingers get on the air to accuse Kerry of unconstitutionally declaring war, or about Hillary’s failure to take manly steps to stop the slaughter, or any variety of such plaints?
Our Hancock Fabrics is in a strip mall and isn’t very well organized. I usually buy at JoAnn Fabrics
By the way, I cleaned up the link to Charlie Pierce’s columns on the VRA (there are at least three that follow one another) at the end of yesterday’s thread. Same problem as usual — WordPress inserts stuff at the beginning of the URL. I thought I had checked it.
Here it is again if anyone’s interested:
This Morning in the Court
THAT’S the word I was looking for, thanks!
Boxturtle (Wonder how many years it’s been since that word has seen print)
I really don’t think we have to worry about our water situation.
Once they run the Keystone tar sand pipeline right over the Ogallala Aquafer what could possibly go wrong in the plains states?
The above was true snark.
Good exercise, sort of like a exercise bike!
Not far east of South Bend is Amish country, and the Amish ladies all use treadle machines to sew. I visited a little shop that had gorgeous “art” quilts, along with more traditional patterns, and they do their own designs and supply fabric and pay the Amish women to do the quilting, both machine and hand. They are gorgeous.
Yes, there are thieves, unfortunately. While they sometimes even resort to infrastructure, they also visit graveyards for brass, and also, catalytic converters tend to disappear, as well as plumbing from vacant houses. Yup. It’s sad. And unnecessary, given all the metal going to the landfill every day. I don’t know where they’d take the stuff around here. There are two recyclers, and they know everybody, have our ID.
Welcome aboard, you are on space trip Over Easy! Yeh, we’re still laughing about the couple that goes on this one, do they start yelling ‘Let Me Off’ before the return trip, find their own space or what? Interesting sociological study.
Boy you got that right, about the Amish quilts. Breathtaking.
Somehow I doubt Putin would want Assad around.
Probably only exercises the feet and ankles, but yes. My current machine is a computerized one (not a very expensive one) that does a huge number of fancy stitches I never use.
Since Perry has allowed his buddy/contributor to locate a nuclear waste dump over Oglalla, it’s a little late to worry now. (Tarsands are not going to produce enough gas to be worthwhile in any case.)
That should have been Plains states at 49. Geez, I miss the Edit function when I make one of my many mistakes.
Our Amish country is north and east of us. I can’t take the wife there, I’d come back with an empty ban account and a trunk full of quilts.
One of the area Amish is a beekeeper and he makes the most awesome honey candy. It can rot your teeth from a distance of 20ft and a sniff can require an insulin shot.
Boxturtle (WELL worth it, IMO)
Some are desperate and some just don’t know it’s easier to do things any which way but louse. If we put stuff on the curb, it goes quickly enough.
Link works, he is a great writer. I need more coffee before I can handle Scalia, and our local Hancock’s is actually a private store, I think, not a chain.
The other main topic (NPR) is the cutting of government services, agricultural inspectors, air traffic controllers and on. Excuses to create food shortages and thus higher consumer prices. Fewer flights doesn’t bother me as much, but I suppose importation of South American food will also be affected too.
Personally, I bent over enough today, shoveling snow. (Ask not what your country will do to you.)
I’m sure he doesn’t. But I think he’d like Assad talking on the stand in The Hague a lot less.
Putin would like the entire thing to go quietly away. But there’s too much money behind it and he knows it.
Boxturtle (He’ll do what’s best for Russian business)
*laughing*
I’d change it, but lack of capitols isn’t anything to bother about, in fact.
Edit; yes, that should be capital. see?
I did not know about the nuclear waste dump.
Can they drop Perry into it?
Texas has not had a good Governor since Ann Richards in my humble opinion. Of course I live in Illinois and our luck with Governor’s has not been great since four of them in the last fifty years served prison time.
I can sew. I have a nice assorted pack of needles and I save the string from my dog food bags. Works great as I’m pretty hard on carhartts.
There’s already been a release of federal prisoners. Which would have been huge to the right if it were the Other side doing it.
Not to mention the Swedish food. Ikea found horsemeat in their Swedish meatballs, and I love Swedish meatballs but will never buy them from Ikea.
Perry would spend time in jails except the same vote that keeps him malperforming in Austin elects judges.
One thing that amazes me about nuclear waste dumps and all the kerfluffle they generate. Do people not realize that the waste is already being stored in much less secure places? That’s a horrible place to put a dump, yet if we look at where and how the waste is currently stored, it would be a significant improvement. Because right now our waste dumps are on each reactor site, protected by a thin wall and 30ft or so of water. Most of which are near an aquifer, since the reactors need large amounts of cooling water.
Boxturtle (and not every Spent Fuel Pool has the wall)
Speaking of judges, I have a good one for you.
Illinois is in big trouble with the pension system and the Legislature has to act knowing that the five pension systems will sue no matter what they do. The pension system is protected by the 1970 Constitution.
What did the Legislature do, made the judges pensions exempt from any legislation passed to reform the pension system.
Justice at it’s best in Illinois.
I made a serious mistake and accidentally read some Scalia and Roberts comments before I had an appropriate coffee titer.
Pretzelization is a wonderful thing in law. Like requiring proof of intent to defraud. Just getting the profit no longer is enough, if you can afford high priced legal services.
Okay, my brain just booted up, I got past the Supremes part of the comment and would like to thank you for the desalinization info.
My parents were from NE Ohio, Dover/New Philadelphia, Wooster, Canton, etc. My dad was born in Gnadenhutten. Lots of Amish in that area.
“Instant Human: just add coffee and stir”
Boxturtle (If I drank coffee, I’d own that Tshirt)
I am not really sure that there is a “secure” place to store nuclear waste. When they suggested the barrens of Nevada, the folks there rose up with a Not In My Backyard you don’t, and rightfully so.
Any ideas on safe storage?
Neeee….
Yup, that’s the place. Watch out for ugly, black, buggies.
Boxturtle (Such ugly buggies, such beautiful quilts)
You hadn’t realized voting is an entitlement if your pigment is concentrated?
Thanks Ruth,
My day holds a couple of appointments away from the desk.
Peace and Joy where you can find it, pups.
Does Ikea sell them, other than in their store cafés? I think they may now be doubly, triply careful. Ikea has always been very careful and proud of its reputation here.
Sewing! Fabric! Paducah! Ms. Molly, have you ever used thread for pattern marking transfers? I pretty much only use those for sewing with patterns, totally old school, but they work. It might be a little tricky with fleece, but it should work.
I have a 1980s Bernina, and it needs a tune up and a few parts, still works fine. But it is expensive to take it in for anything, the couple of times I had to take it. Nothing like a good sewing machine. Also, nothing like a well-oiled one.
nonq, you would be shocked at my living room sawing projects the last couple of days. It has been too cold to work outside, and I am making slow progress on my projects these days. But yeah, sawdust.
No idea whatsodamnever. That crap is so dangerous and so long lived that I’m not sure there’s anyplace on the planet safe. In the future, we may end up shooting dry casks into the sun.
If I was in charge of it, first I’d stop generating more waste. Then everything goes into dry cask storage. Then the casks are shipped to Yucca Flats and stored under guard in warehouses. That area is already uninhabited and full of crap.
Boxturtle (I’m not going to pretend it’s safe, just better than we’ve got)
The Amish schoolkids cut across the farm here when the stream isn’t too high.
Gotta shove off for now, too. VERY busy next couple of days (including the aforementioned pesky fleece jacket). But tomorrow’s post is “in the can” so that’s one less thing on the list.
Have a good day. I’ll check back later.
The buggies here look good to me. I passed one in MO with lots of kids without umbrellas in the rain, that was just a buckboard, looked like abuse to me.
Thanks for stopping by, good luck in your work to make WI survivable.
Nice – never used thread, but did have marking wheels with chalked paper at one time.
Can’t sawdust be mulch?
That is, by far, the coolest sentence I’ve seen in print this week.
Space is dangerous enough with that geezer couple bound for Mars! Actually that seems like a good plan, as long as it’s not in orbit but headed out without the chance of returning.
One day, when I’m sure I won’t be seen, I want to take their picture.
Yes, sawdust can be. Not from treated wood, but otherwise, yes. I put it in my compost. Wood chips are a common mulch material. Depending on what I have been using my vacuum for, I also put the contents of the can/bag in the compost.
I never really liked the chalk marking system.
I just saw this on my way out. I learned to use tailor’s tacks (thread) for marking when I first learned to sew, and sometimes do when the tracing wheel and paper won’t leave an adequate mark. I used a few on this fleece jacket. Also I have a chalk pencil and a blue colored pencil used for marking fabric.
I am just hoping my other granddaughter doesn’t want a fleece jacket too!!
Ruth, also thanks for the eggs, always love those.
Thanks for the post and invitation, Ruth.
It was nice to see what everyone’s up to.
Take good care, all.
I wonder if the amount of waste could have some sort of cumulative toxic effect that would reach earth. Pumping that crap into the sun would just burn it up, turning toxic solids into toxic gases. Those toxic gases would be veeeeeery far away, but if we did it on a large enough scale for a long enough time…
Imagine solar winds carrying plutonium and uranium in high concentrations. Ick.
msmolly, I am not sure if they sell them or just offer them in their store cafe’s. We stop at IKEA in Chicago on the way to or from our daughter’s house in Grand Rapids.
The report, both in the news and TV said that horsemeat was found in Ikea meatballs which made me say to myself, “no meatballs from Ikea.”
IKEA has a fine reputation and a lot of good products and this hit is really too bad in that regard.
100?
Yes.
Thanks for the visit, and we’ll have to use the can opener.
The problem with that idea is what happens when the launch vehicle fails. Imagine a dry cask in uncontrolled re-entry vaporizing and scattering it’s contents over a very large area. When the cask hits the solar neutron flux, what happens?
Boxturtle (Perhaps we should store the casks in the backyards of pro-Nuke congresscritters)
Sawdust is also good for bedding. We used it for ponies.
What an excellent idea! They seem to have no compunctions about storing them in their constituents’ backyards.
Glad you accepted the invite, always good to visit.
I wouldn’t worry too much about that. The sun is roughly 10**27 cubic meters, enough to hold over 1million earths. The Total amount of nuclear waste earth has generated would amount to a rounding error if added to the sun.
The solar wind is ionized, so whatever is in it is deflected by Earths magnetic field.
Boxturtle (It’s an excellent storage location, the problem is getting the crap there safely)
Thank you, Ruth. For that, you get a pancake – no lint.
A + for you. Thanks, we’re on a roll.
Use a fail-safe container. Do not let this contract be awarded to BP, Shell, General Electric, Boise, and Tokyo Electric Power Company or the right wing in Congress. Among others.
The Amish buggy folks in the county next door took a stand in the courts over the orange triangle thing. They finally won, with new legislation that matches other states, but first, they got arrested and sent to jail, like 25 times. Cops were so hateful they had to make special grey jail suits, because the Amish men would not back down.
I was thinking more about the space station or satellites. Would it have any effect on them?
Like a sir.
Pancakes were special made for Lent, though. (Did you think I’d let a bad joke lie there untouched?)
Like a Time Lord.
Guess I don’t get it, I think orange triangles are safety equipment, what’s the problem with them.
A fail safe container is quite a challenge and may well be beyond current technology. For example, it must be able to withstand the heat and stress of uncontrolled re-entry AND maintain integrity when it slams into solid granite.
To withstand the heat, you’d need a ceramic layer. But creamic is brittle, so you’d have to back it with a lot of heavy metal to withstand the stress. Some space shuttle tiles failed on every flight.
Oh, and your design must be light enough to be lofted by a rocket. SpaceX has a design on the board that will lift about 50 tons. A single dry cask currently weighs more than that, even without reinforcement.
Boxturtle (Prediction: The pro-nuke folks will change the law so we can export waste)
That always seemed like a stupid fight to me. Lanterns, triangles, both are quite visible.
Boxturtle (The only thing that can out-stubborn an Amish is a housecat)
I wouldn’t think so. That stream of neutrons, ions, and radiation is already intense enough to kill an unprotected human. I doubt the addition of a few ions of PU-239 is going to make it any worse.
Boxturtle (the heavy metals should sink to the suns core due to gravity)
Too colorful for some sects. The Amish don’t like bright colors.
Boxturtle (Kinda silly IMO, but reasonable accommodation can be made so why not?)
I do not even like to think of the methods the existing geniuses in space ventures would come up with. Maybe a gigantic catapult. Stay safe, gentle Mars-bound geezers.
The Schwarzentruber Amish consider the orange triangle to be garish and worldly. They are very strict in their ways. They proposed lanterns and reflective tape as safety alternatives. Turn out there are actually few (maybe one) safety studies on the effectiveness of the orange triangle anyway. The Commonwealth, I think, argued from a standpoint that buggy crashes may be rare but they are horrific when they do happen…so the triangle was necessary. The whole mess got off the hook for a while, lots of jail, lots of hateful letters. The KY Supreme Court granted exemption last year. Well, the legislature changed the law. A religious rights case, I guess.
Priceless. I don’t know how you find this stuff, but you just made my day!
Better than LATFH, IMO.
I love LATFH! I think you’ve linked to it before and that’s how I first heard about it.
Funny shit, that is.
FWIW, almost every buggy crash I’m aware of (not an exhaustive list, for certain) is caused by somebody getting impatient and trying to go around the buggy.
The problem could be solved with a little common sense and courtesy, but both are sadly lacking in today’s drivers.
Boxturtle (patience would also help)
Still strikes me as bizarre for such a big deal, since it’s on the back of the buggy, around here, and does alert drivers to a buggy being in the road ahead of them. Flowers are not offensive to Amish, and they come in bright colors, seems like.
Sorry I missed you today, sister demi.(May I call you that?)
Over easy isn’t the same without you and have been missin ya.
Jimmy, you can call me anything you want. Sister works.
You’re a brave man. Wanna go to Mars?
My wife and several others agree that I am often “from another planet” (I see things that others do not see)
Have a great day sister. :)
I admit that I cheat. I have a 28-year-old son. We have the same twisted sense of humor but he is better at finding stuff on the internet than I am. He showed me LATFH a couple of years ago, I think.
x 2. Ditto.
My 19 year old son turned me on to College Humor.
Some hilarious videos.
(And, thanks.)
Yeah. I know. But it actually did become a really really big deal. Also, from what I have read, BoxTurtle is correct about cars trying to go around the buggies.
I love bullshit like this. It’s awesome having kids who can find this stuff. College humor, college pranks…love it! Good on your son, excellent find.
The boys here abouts are aloud to use car batteries in their buggies. A buggy at night has flashing tail lights and a set of front running lights. Some times you can hear music. I’m waiting to see one go by with chicken lights. People who run into a 20 mph buggy should be in jail.
I agree, and add the roads around here are dangerous for bicycles and pedestrians also. There are miles of roads with no shoulder at all. It’s amazing more people aren’t killed.
In the summer when we have city dwellers, the buggies attract accidents, not so much when it’s just folks used to them.
Drought map, just saw at eschatonblog
http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/
Going from memory, it seems like a majority of the people who cause these crashes are juveniles. Impatience and inexperience are grounds to lose your license, but I don’t they’re severe enough to rate a life ruining felony.
Boxturtle (Yes, I’m generalizing something that should be on a case-by-case basis)
Scary. It’s the worst in our primary crop areas.
Boxturtle (Betting I’ll be able to walk across the Mississippi at Clarksdale)
Late to the discussion (appointment over, errands done, back for a bit). In the heavily Amish area to the east of South Bend, many of the roads have buggy lanes on the right. They look sorta like wide bike lanes. My friend and I took our bikes there and did some riding, and wondered about the etiquette of riding in a buggy lane, and who yields to whom. We decided that if a buggy approached we’d yield to it, just as a matter of courtesy.
I am proud to say the map is provided by the University of Northern Iowa where my SO is at classes today. Great school(I got my Master’s in History there) :)
I’ve never had a situation or seen one where it’s a problem, but think a horse has enough sense to go to the other side of another object.
Not much fun for them to keep these maps, they’re about Iowa having a very bad time. Glad you got to study there.
Always yield to something bigger than you!
Boxturtle (And don’t tailgate. Fertilizer happens)
Hi guys – a busy morning so skimmed really fast. Mars? No thanks? especially without space suits! My god, what are they thinkin?
Crane-Station – you could live in San Antonio. When Texas deregulated electricity and encouraged privatizing public-owned utilities, San Antonio declined. The city still owns City Public Service and the rates are the lowest in the state, among the lowest in the country. Whew. Dodged that bullet.
Sewing machines being scrapped! Sooo sad. But it isn’t true that young women aren’t learning to sew. In fact, there’s quite a movement, usually described as part of the Makers movement, with lots of blogs by young women. Less of sewing garments, more on crafty things, but garment sewing has picked up steam with the success of Proje ct Runway.
One of the pattern companies has Project Runway themed patterns. Next time you’re in a bookstore, check in the sewing section. You’ll see a bunch of books, including many with the theme of “not-your-mother’s sewing book”. There are a couple of magazines spun off from long-existing ones that cater to young people who need to learn basic skills, like “Sew Stylish.” They’re full of everything from phone and iPad covers to simple make-your-own-pattern dresses and tops.
I’m sure it hasn’t reached the volume of sewists (as they like to call themselves) there were in the fifties and sixties, even seventies, but that’s the direction it’s taking now.
Here’s a couple: http://sewmoni.bigcartel.com/
http://mayamade.blogspot.com/
http://blog.betzwhite.com/
http://www.iheartlinen.typepad.com/
All right, better stop. It’s just I noticed this discussion because I find it fascinating that the craft is coming back, but in a different way. In fact, it seems to have skipped a generation, and now the 20-somethings feel free to do something entirely new with the ancient skill. I’m encouraged that sewing won’t die out, after all.
forgot something on the sewing thread (oooh, pun not intended, but…). Paducah is famous among quilters for that quilt museum. I’d love to see it.
And the Hancock’s of Paducah is not the chain Hancock’s…they make that clear on their website. I guess they didn’t get sued by the chain because they had it first, long before the chain. I remember when our Hancock’s was called something else, although it’s so long now I can’t remember what…Jo-Ann’s bought the state-wide chain called Cloth World. They had better stuff for sewing clothing; none of the stores in town have good clothing fabric now, or at least not much variety, imho.
When I was sewing in the ’70′s, one of the things that made me sew was that I could get so many unique fabrics that you couldnt find in ready-made. Now it’s the opposite. Most of what’s in fabric stores is dull and boring, solids, a few boring prints (not what’s in the samples in the pattern books, either. Those must exist somewhere, but not here). Sigh.
Thanks, and I learned to sew in Home Ec, we made a skirt. Just putting on a button was something we did forever, as young as grade school, anyway. Tho I haven’t made clothes since my kids were in grade school and they begged me not to, their friends thought it was some cult thing.
I am glad you cleared that up. It is confusing; I live here but I do not sew or know anything about fabric. That said, when I figured out how glorious the Hancock’s really is here, I was actually for a while trying to invent a way to fold origami cranes by somehow stiffening the fabrics. There are a couple of other small, jaw-dropping quilt-oriented fabric shops in town. I’d go into these places, just mouth watering, spending hours looking at the colors. Never did figure out the stiffening.
The quilt museum is insane. Absolutely insanely gorgeous quilts.
A clerk in our local JoAnn’s told me they were bought by someone. This was last summer, I think, and I can’t find anything online at all, so I’m not sure she was correct.
JoAnn’s has a decent selection of stuff, has gotten heavy into fleece and into quilters fabrics.
Poly/cotton blend is very hard to find and not much of a selection. I like that for making grandkids’ clothes because neither family irons much, especially kids clothes. And it’s really hard to find a selection of t-shirt knits, and the ribbing for the neckline is almost not at all available, and it used to be common.
Also couldn’t find the binding I wanted for the fleece jacket. I even enlisted our “Aunt Toby” but she couldn’t find it either. Apparently it is no longer made.
You remind me that the local department stores had fabric departments once upon a time. I have been to JoAnn’s a few times, got a plastic table cover once, among other things I’ve needed.
I’m used to finding stuff online, just have been looking for a pillow with arms. The stores here don’t have them, but there’s a good selection out there.
Why should ANYONE be entitled to a year’s salary as a bonus??????????????
Oh, good grief. Made me laugh.
I was looking at those round your neck pillows at Big Lots the other day. I picked it up to see if it had seeds or rocks in it, the kind you can heat up, but it didn’t so I didn’t either.
I don’t know, but, I’d like a Bonus. (Hi Juliania)
Now that’s resistence! Good on ‘em. Stylish too.
There are several kinds, and if you want the sort you pop in the microwave, just put it in the description, I’m sure you will find some.
Those pillows with arms are called a “husband” – at least in Ca they are. Have found tons of them at Bed, Bath & Beyond.
Those had me laughing, what I really wanted was armrests, and here popped up arms. Huggy pillows, hilarious.
E.G.; http://www.sears.com/at-home-by-o-dream-man-arm-pillow/p-0000000000000002057100000000000005894513P?prdNo=43&blockNo=193&blockType=G193
Hi, there, demi! Glad I didn’t miss you ~ I am way late today.
Long live the (FDL) Jane Austen Knitting Circle!
I sew. Not a lot ~ but I have a current project to replace/fix the (very poorly constructed long disintegrated) pockets on a jacket some time soon. I made some slipcovers a year ago ~ had to make a pattern and figure out the construction myself. I am slow … but I can figure any sewing out, even took one couturier course (A+, tyvm, but I was so slow ….). When I was a pre-teen it was considered de rigeur to be able to sew. I wonder if the patterns these days aren’t being done overseas and poorly translated, you know, like VCR Instructions?
It’s really hard to even get high-quality ($) expensive fabrics in town these days. I remember when there were 2 higher end shops within 3 blocks downtown and a cheaper store also and selections in the department stores as well! If you want handmade these days you go to a designer/seamstress, apparently.
I remember my grammy’s treadle sewing machine. So beautiful in black with gold and a lovely furniture-style tabletop.
I have my mother’s table top Singer (c. 1960, I guess). One of my most prized possessions (along with her Smith Corona 1940s typewriter -noted for their beautiful design- which I used for my university papers for my first degree and her piano, but that’s another long story …..). It’s heavy but “solid state.” I used it (in it’s case) as a bedside table in University!
I had to keep my widower father from giving this sewing machine away to his second wife. I was ticked when she got a new machine instead. But even the machines today cannot match the ergonometrics of this beauty. It needs no maintenance and if it did, a bit of sewing machine oil would likely do the trick. I’m thinking of pulling the attachments out one day and trying to figure them out for fun. Sure it would be fun to have a computerized machine but I would never give this baby up!
That’s hilarious! And *just* what I need for lonely nights, too. One of those and the cat and I’ll be all set.
Thanks for the post Ruth ~ most interesting that the Europeans are moving to cap bank bonuses. Some moments I think we are getting closer to seeing change sometime, anyway.
Good for you, saving that Singer. The box of attachments is a treasure trove, indeed, and I am going to get into that, too, one day. Knitting is much more common than sewing these days, don’t know why, but at least the supplies are available more easily because of that. I haven’t sewed, or shopped for fabric in awhile, looks like I’ve got some searches in my future.
I think knitting is more portable and so more visible maybe. There’s a modern knitting culture (“Stitch ‘n’ Bitch,” I kid you not) similar to what tejanarusa was saying about modern maker and DIY sewing culture. There are some interesting new books out about sewing. I really think girls would love to be able to make sutff for themselves, if someone would only show them how. As it was my mother was teaching me and my father insisted I have one course after she died. She was also teaching me how to knit … but I am lefthanded so that’s always been an obstacle for the knitting. I have done a bit: I can’t imagine having the time to knit a lot. My mother was always whipping up sweaters. Those were the days. :-)
I guess knitting does go with you, and is something you can sit and work on while the kids are playing, without taking attention so much as sewing does. Also the t.v. doesn’t interfere. But I had much nicer clothes than would have been possible in HS, so that was a big push for me. It would make a difference for struggling families, no doubt.
Hey ya, Reader.
I, most of the time, when I’m at the thrift store look at the fabric.
I’ve found some wonderful pieces that I’ve used or am using as curtains, throws, table cloths. Some fun and some exquisite stuff.
Absolutely. I made my “prom” dress. It was my own style: cotton and lace but I was very pleased. I don’t think that would work out for most young girls now. It’s hard for me to find anything to buy (not that I do any shopping nowadays …) that I don’t look at and say “even I could make this better …” It taught me what quality was too. I had some nice pieces because I knew what was worth purchasing on sale for the price. And I may end up making a living with those skills, yet. And I really enjoy the making and the creativity. We need to find the time for this!
Hi – so we derailed onto sewing and knitting, huh? Reade, the first “Stitch n Bitch” book has instructions for left-handed casting on, I think.
There are lots of “Stitch n Bitch” groups all over the world, too. Not sure if the author started the knitting rennaisance single=handed, or just hit it at the right time.
I know knitting seemed to just die sometime in the early 90′s, when the only local store that carried knitting supplies phased out the whole department for lack of interest, years before they closed their (absolutely fabulous) fabric department. Then of course the owners got old and sold, and the new owner went out of business, and there’s a bank on that corner now.
Msmolly – what you said about the poor selection of t-shirt (andother knits) fabrics. They’d be so easy to make, but I don’t want any in the colors they carry.
Treadle machines…yeah, my paternal grandmother had a lovely one, on which (my mother reports) she made teeny tiny smocked dresses for me when I was a baby and toddler. Mom couldn’t imagine how she did it.
My dad sold it along with other household furnishings when my grandparents died. I was too young to think I might want it someday. Or the lovely wooden cabinet Victrola…yes, the kind with the giant horn….oh, don’t get me started.; )
That’s the spirit! My curtains are an assembly of bits and pieces and plain cotton panels. I don’t “do” curtain rods or picture hanging and I have decided I like it that way. So I always thought the curtain situation was making do -and there are some other options I could try if I had the ready cash- but now I think they are quite fantastic just as they are!
I am such a hacker at heart, it seems: curtains, computers, sewing machines, cooking, ……….
Sewing and knitting: woo hoo!
Yeah it breaks my heart to think of these lovely things being discarded. I actually saved the piano from becoming a piece of furniture in the rich neighbours’ front room ~ no appreciation whatsoever. Didn’t think I would get it … but I was the only one who had the cash to do it right, assess it, transport it, and rebuild it. Those were the days.
I’ve just always had trouble with knitting …. and playing the piano. But I’ll try these things again. My brain is ‘better’ than it has been and I pick stuff up much faster now with much less confusion than used to be the case.
I did get invited to join a lunchtime knitting circle a few years ago! That would have been just fine. I could have made cat toys! But I wasn’t employed there long enough …
Yes, make patchwork curtains, use scraps of fabric for trims, appliques, tiebacks, etc!
Although, I love that you call it “hacking.” I would not have thought of that. You fit right in with the young makers and maker-bloggers.
Have you thought of making something to sell on etsy? If you don’t need more than a supplement and can do something that catches on, that might work for you.
Forgot to add to the question of why knitting is again popular, that I think the availability of new yarns, including non-wool yarns like linen and silk, that make it worthwhile making something here in the deep summer country, helped.
Many of those yarns came from people who quit corporate America to go “back to the land”, chose to raise sheep and make yarn, and then set up shops and classes to teach people to use that yarn. Marketing the “natural” and “locally made” and “hand-made,” handspun, hand-dyed angles. I don’t know which came first, but they seem to have developed around the same time.
Oh, I hear that…
Cat toys! yes, I have a pattern for little mousie cat toys to knit. but I have trouble with knitting too, still haven’t mastered casting on. I always end up with too many or too few stitches within a row or three.
Sigh.
Still, I do it sometimes to calm myself with the repetitive, soothing feel of the yarn and the needles.
My doing it for that reason at my mother’s at Christmas brought out some feelings of hers I had never heard her express, about her mother who knitted and was a good cook, but never taught her any of those things. And how she said somehow she couldn’t ask her mother to teach her. After eight decades, those old wounds still are sore.
I made suits with linings, something I couldn’t afford to buy, and took care with the details so they’d make me proud. Yes, that taught me about what goes into nice things, so I couldn’t afford what I liked, too.
Knitting and crocheting I didn’t learn until I had little kids and while they played outside, some time on my hands – it wasn’t all that hard, but then I did very simple things.
There are knitting machines, too, and a friend turned out sweaters in a day’s time. I never quite got into it that deep, myself.
Yup. I love DIY stuff ~ a beautiful design, a simple production, have fun, and on to the next thing! But I don’t do enough of it ~ mostly just search for neat stuff I might do. But I am kinda preoccupied with all the other things I am doing and the dreadful survival job and having to really do something about getting out of that ….
I’m working on a design for a software product ~ and helping an associate with a product he is making. It’s really creative for me like any craft and always has been. When things started to look grim last spring I thought about finding 5 things I might make -that I have reason to think would fill a gap and sell- and shopping them around to the more eclectic boutiques in town – including etsy if I end up doing that. Still thinking about that. It might be more my pace. And I had a great conversation with a young shopowner one morning when I was looking for inspiration and pulling together a strategy in my mind for all of that: she offered to help me! I was thinking I would ONLY have to replace the money I barely make at the survival job …
But I spent about 3 months being sick and now the software stuff is looking more promising and I may end up being more of a programmer to make sure I get a piece of the paying work if any happens. And in the meantime, other research has been productive too. If I ever grow up, I will have to decide … LOL.
The natural yarns and homemade yarns are wonderful!
LOL! I can cast on by sense-memory … just can’t remember how to knit or purl from row to row. Together we might make one hell of a knitter!!!!!!
My mother was looking for knitting I could handle at 7 – how much was too much or just right? I lost her though so I know there’s a lot that daughters go through that I haven’t experienced – and it’s funny how some parents pass along all they know and others don’t share. Emotions can be so strong, I know that much.
Sounds so beautiful, Ruth. I remember some of the really nice clothes I have had very fondly. And the stuff I made too. It quite amazes me now. I have read a lot about knitting machines: had a hankering to try that too!!!
Thanks so much, friends. I am all inspired now! I’ll check back later …
Chicken Parmesan for dinner tonight. Yup.
Making a product that will sell is something that scares me, I’d be sure to ask potential buyers what they couldn’t do without, before putting anything into it financially. But I remember a fad or two that had me making small jewelry items and selling to friends in days long ago, and made decent amounts of money that way. Of course, I never lived off of what I made.
Huh. I’ve been fiddling with the idea of making a new set of curtains for myself. I figure that’s a very simple thing to make, right? Just a few straight seams and yer done. Of course, I hardly have time to make dinner these days, let alone sew.
You’re right, simple panel curtains can be just two seams each, very easy and not much time involved.
Well if any of you seamstresses or crafsters have good ideas for whipping up saleable items with burlap coffee bags, let me know. I’ve got a virtually inexhaustable supply. If I was accomplished enough, I’d be making purses and bags out of them. And aprons. And cafe curtains. And upholstered items…
Yep. Space is required, though. I’ve been looking around for some cheap drapery lining, but then I think I’m getting in over my head lol.
I’ve seen burlap bags made into small Xmas and Halloween bags with a design embroidered into the large gaps in the material out of thick yarn.
Huh. Sounds very kewl.
Check out some of these:
http://www.google.com/search?q=burlap+weaving&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=peovUcrgCo7vigL19YCoCA&sqi=2&ved=0CE4QsAQ&biw=1008&bih=512
Two kenmore electric portables, both for under $20 each. Stitched the pockets that hold the spars in this little sail experiment.
Look quick (only 2 seconds of video), this was a few years ago when I was much younger and smarter.
Very nice, and I particularly like working in beads/seeds.
Looks exciting. Especially around here where there’s thin ice.
I’ve since found a used pair of long bladed speed skates, but safe ice not covered in snow as with the sport of ice boating, creates a limited season. I was trying to do the $5 version of this $1K plus version.
I like the value, $1K worth for $5. Very good output and input.
Mostly making the point that we boys have fun with sewing on occasion too. ;-)
spud does sewing with the string he saves from dog food bags, things like arrow quivers get made that way. He likes his own mocassins, too.
I can’t hear you, La, la la la laaa.
*turning eyelids inside out*
Some of this stuff, I can’t handle it! Things weren’t supposed to be this way, and it’s turning into a world that I never thought would be possible, unfortunately.
I noticed that about spud, with the needles and the dog food bag string. Brilliant!
Agree, it seems impossible that having pulled ourselves out of the era of prejudice and discrimination, so many of what we assume to be decent society dives right back into it. Shameful, as well.
How weird. We just had the same thing. From WalMart. We paid for our groceries and we even made it out of the WalMart parking lot without being shot at.
This guy:
Florida Man Claims He Shot At Walmart Shoplifter’s Car So Cops Could Find It Later
shot up some cars apparently, in a WalMart parking lot yesterday, claimed stand your ground self-defense at first, even though he shot the back window out of a shoplifter’s car as it was leaving. You can’t make this stuff up.
I followed their case because they were arrested while I was in jail, so here we all were, in different jails for different reasons, but these guys were all over the news, and I loved it when the Amish basically drew a line in the sand and would not budge. One of the men was sort of in and out of jail, and he had something like twelve children, so it was hard for him to take this stand, given his family situation.
My, we have such talented and creative folks here. Arrow quivers made from the string on dog food bags? Wow. Extremely thrifty, AND crafty.
That sail-ski (is that what it’s called) nonq made for $5 seems to move him across the ice just as efficiently as the fancy $1000 one. I like that kinda price. And brave to have bought the sewing machines and tried it.
Nonq’s vid was so short, it was hard to tell what the state of the ice was, but the fancy sail video went on long enough that I was looking at the surface, some of which looked awfully slushy and soft and even liquid in spots. Adds to the thrill, I suppose.
Knitting machines somehow seem like work, not leisure activity. But perhaps that’s a dumb attitude.
Reader, I bet there’s a better profit to be made with software than on etsy, but who knows. Good luck with the project.
I’d better get up and feed the kittehs. They have let me know it’s time, although the one on my lap seems sound asleep.
Later, all!
Talent and originality, it’s what makes it always worth a visit.
Now, I have to get off here too.
Thanks for your comments, pups.
OOOH. You got the magic #200! Seems fitting somehow for the author to have the “last word” (except someone else will prolly come along and comment.
G’night, peeps.
And Im checking in late; busy day. Looks like a great exchange and a big welcome to Demi….Y’all sleep well. Very interesting
day here. Take care.
I hope you see this, sorry so late. and I have to drive tomorrow, will I remember til Sat or what?
There is a very hip beer haus here that used all the hops bags on the ceiling. I thought that was an awesome upcycle. You could make walls or ceilings out of it, maybe even floor cloths/coverings for all I know.
I have done my share of installations, it’s fun but a lot of work.
Whoa! Who knew? Wonderful stuff.
Yes, what cool stuff: arrow quivers and sail-skis!
The (FDL) Jane Austen Knitting Circle (which is actually an *intellectual* group…) does welcome like-minded individuals of the male persuasion!
Knitting machines appeal to me because it’s technical and artistic at the same time. Like software … well, the way I do it, anyway. I might be crazy.
There’s good profit to be made with software but an amazing number of endeavors fail. Badly. I’m applying strategy so that’s *different* and it’s a REALLY long haul, in any event. Things are looking up now, but getting people to buy is tough. Some days, I would rather retire to a small craft business that would be playful. What’s really interesting is a lot of the same principles apply ~ finding a marketable product, a product, and strategizing so people want it … meanwhile I am really cheered up by programming, so there’s a nother answer. But, programming is a bit like crafting (maybe a lot) for me … and at the rate I am going I may be able to stop looking for help and just program my product myself. But will it sell?
Gee, didn’t mean to go on and on again, but I did want to acknowledge the great conversaition.
Carry on, lovely ‘pups!
oops … should be “finding a marketable product, a market, and …”
We have some bags hangning on the walls, etc. For the most part, though, we keep all surfaces including in the customer areas smooth and easily cleanable, which burlap coffee bags most certainly are not. That, and we have very, very high ceilings that would make installation and cleaning dangerous.
I have seen rugs made cleverly from burlap bags, and they are very cool. Two major problems working with burlap bags are (1) they are rough to the touch and the only way to soften them is to put them in the washer-dryer, which degrades the ink in the printed design; and (2) they have all manners of allergens in them, so many people get congested around them.
I’ll try to post some pictures of the types of bags I have if anyone is interested…