
McCain’s economic team of Holtz-BlackBerry-Eakin was quoted in a CNN story today to the effect that employees were better off staying with their employer-based health plans than buying plans on their own in the market, which McCain is trying to encourage.
Younger, healthier workers likely wouldn’t abandon their company-sponsored plans, said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, McCain’s senior economic policy adviser."Why would they leave?" said Holtz-Eakin. "What they are getting from their employer is way better than what they could get with the credit."
McCain’s hope is to displace employer plans with the equivalent of private health plans (just like private retirement accounts) purchased on the insurance market, but this admission will likely be misinterpreted. Holtz-Eakin is addressing the argument that giving folks a tax credit to purchase insurance ($2,500 per individual, $5,000 per family) might induce employees with few health problems and hence lower health costs to leave employer-based plans, thus undercutting the employer plans. Here’s that argument from todays lengthy NYT editorial, discussing the two candidates’ plans:
The great danger is that Mr. McCain’s plan will fragment the sharing of risks and costs — the bedrock of any good insurance plan — by enticing young, healthy workers to bail out of their employers’ group policies to seek cheaper insurance on their own. Their older or less healthy colleagues would be left behind, which would drive up premiums at work. The rising costs could lead many companies to drop their health coverage entirely.
Holtz-Eakin hopes to refute that, arguing that these healthy workers wouldn’t have an incentive to leave, because they’re better off staying with their employer plans. And for many workers, that’s probably true. But that misses a more important point. Employers would have incentives to end their plans even if the workers wanted to keep them:
"If companies know their employees have the tax credit, it relieves them of the burden of providing coverage," said Sara Collins, who directs a health insurance program at the Commonwealth Fund. McCain’s plan "moves people out of the employer system and to the individual market." . . . Estimates vary, but the Tax Policy Center estimates that 20 million people would lose their employer-based coverage by 2018.
That’s the problem. There would be (1) workers who got to keep their existing employer plans, (2) workers who lost their plans because their employers dropped them, and (3) workers who never had employer plans. Even if it were true that groups 1 and 3 would be better off with the tax credits (even with the increased tax on benefits for group 1), the workers in group 2 would get screwed.
For those workers, they would lose their employer plans and have to shop for individual health insurance on their own. Despite McCain’s arguments about "competition driving down costs," they’d have less bargaining power than their employer had, and they’d have trouble getting coverage for pre-existing conditions. And the McCain tax credit wouldn’t come anywhere near paying for the replacement policy they’d have to find on their own:
Value of employer plan to worker (family) = about $12,600
Cost of buying that plan on your own = at least $12,600
Tax credit from McCain = $5,000 = $7,600 less than you need.
Result: You lose. 20 million of you.



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Thanks Scarecrow.
I was just thinking that Obama needs to rabbitpunch McCain’s health care tax on the middle class, every time Grampy I get free health care McLame starts wheezing about Obama taxing small business. What. a. joke.
I don’t think the new tax on employer-paid health benefits is the problem per se, because they only people who would pay that would be people who get health benefits from their employer, and they’d still be better off paying the tax after then received the tax rebate (some exceptions).
Instead, I think the problem is that the tax credit would induce employers to drop this benefit — folks in category 2. If that happened, those folks wouldn’t receive the employer-paid benefit, so there wouldn’t be a tax, but these folks would have to purchase replacement insurance, and McCain’s tax credit would nearly cover the costs that the employer used to pay.
Obama should make more of an effort to inform voters about McCain’s mostly unpublicized intention to make drastic cuts in Social Security and Medicare. That would really hit home with a big portion of McCain’s key demo.
Well that is getting major play in florida thanks to Debbie Wasserman Schultz. But it could get more play nationwide.
Wasserman-Schultz is a great surrogate, although I didn’t like her as much when she was campaigning for Hillary.:)
It is my understanding that Wasserman-Shultz would not endorse blue am candidate Taddeao in the adjacent district to hers in FL because she was close to repub.
Oh well, not endorsing is better than actively opposing…
“. . . and McCain’s tax credit would NOT nearly cover the costs that the employer used to pay.”
What about the people that have pre-existing conditions. Also, the companies always have more bargaining power in regard to pricing than individuals have due to their group plan status.
That’s the whole point–to eliminate group bargaining power so that insurance corp profits go up.
yup, they did this with their drug law too
they really want to make sure government cannot impede their profit model
until of course their profit model fails, then they are happy to let government “keep them in business”
ding.
You may be right; I hadn’t thought of it that way.
As perris said at 17, they did the same thing with pharma, but in that case more obviously be forbidding govt to bargain.
A policy expert said to me a few months ago – “Some people worry that John McCain won’t focus on Health Care — I worry he will.”
Holtz-Eakin is an embarrassment to people with hyphens in their names everywhere.
they’re cooking the books.
scarecrow, are they TRYING to lose?
you beat me to my 12 betsy, I do owe you a coke
diet please.
I hope they’re not trying to lose. They’re so incompetent they might blow it.
The term for this is cherrypicking. It is something that has been going on for several decades now.
McShames plan would eliminate state oversight of Health insurance plans. As it goes interstate the same Commerce department laws that have been used by the credit card companies to overrule usury laws and to have NYs airline passenger bill of rights declared illegal by the courts would be used to negate state regulations.
it does seem as if the mccain camp is undermining themselves, it’s almost as if they do not want mccain to win
this gives me pause
As a campaign implodes, internal feuds become sharper and take up more time and energy. There is more disorganization and spokespeople go off message. This creates more dissension and finger pointing leading to more disorganization. IOW a positive feedback mechanism.
Stannding on the sidelines, in my Bennett tiger costume (school mascot), doing cartwheels and cheering with pompoms.
Well damn, I could have told them that for free. Who needs a paid adviser to say that?
Implosion.
Finis.
Can we just socialize medicine and be done with it?
it wouldn’t really be socialized medicine, we would still be allowed and able to go and buy some private care if we wanted to
that is the point the republicans refuse to acknowledge;
if you don’t want to use the government plan go and buy your own, the private plans will be cheaper becaues they will have to compete with the public plans
McCain and Palin being interviewed this afternoon on CNBS after the close. DOW rallies to close up nearly 900 points in final hour.
Conspiracy theorists suspect politically inspired government market intervention responsible for dramatic last minute move:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw
That quote is priceless. So he’s coming right out and saying that their plan is to provide crappy insurance to the uninsured. Because even most employer-based plans these days are inadequate and the McCain plan won’t even be as good as that.
o/t breaking:
Hey, did you guys cover the fact that McCain AND Palin are calling for Stevens to step down?
Yes
Obama needs a sweeping victory (plus 60 Senate seats) so he can have the juice necessary to push for universal health care.
Sure he’ll be accused of flip-flopping, but he could use the current financial crisis as his excuse.
Outside of it being the right thing to do for us as citizens, it would save billions of dollars for businesses.
Think about it. We’re already spending the money on bailouts; this way every business would benefit, not just the ones with connections to this administration.
It would also do wonders for consumer confidence, which today was recored at 38, the lowest reading since the index was created.
And what better way to encourage entrepreneurial spirit — how many more people would be willing to go out on their own and start a business if they didn’t have to worry about losing their health insurance?
Exactly. And it does away with all the damn calculus involved in deciding which plan is best.
GM and Chrysler might not need bailouts if you took the health care expenses off their books.
Someone needs to present this to Obama quick.
And as for the costs involved, people far smarter than me have repeatedly pointed out the long term savings of preventative care vs. waiting until very sick people become medicare eligible and their treatment costs are sky high from day one.
Looks like McCain’s BFF (not) did the right thing down in Florida:
“Gov. Charlie Crist on Tuesday extended early voting hours across Florida to 12 hours a day.”
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/54888.html
hooray!!
Unless there is some kind of internal polling showing that more Rs than Ds are voting early in Florida, I think this is another indication of, yes, they are trying to lose.
No love lost between Crist and McCain.
Wow! That very issue was just mentioned last night in discussion on Rachel Maddow’s Talk me down segment with Howard Dean.
Spent the weekend with my sister (who lives in Ft. Lauderdale) and she mentioned it. I said there’s no way that voting hours will be extended.
Happily, I was wrong!
Thanks Scarecrow.
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I’m gonna miss Holtz-Eakin.
The guy’s a guaranteed laugh every single time he opens his mouth.
this plan sucks unless insurance companies have to take everyone regardless of condition.
I think that it would be best to expand Medicare to all. Charge for it based on income and subsidize those who can’t afford. If the rich want something more let them get it.