Ezra Klein has an important post assessing the relative importance of having a public health insurance option versus other reform elements. He concludes that there are at least five other issues that are even more important than whether the reforms include a public option.
Atrios replies by both agreeing and disagreeing, but ultimately concluding a strong public option is the essential component of a reform bill and the focus of rallying support.
They’re both right, but to see this, you have to distinguish between reforms we must do now to save lives under the current system and the foundations we have to lay to move to a restructured health care system.
Part of the problem is that it will take years to build the exchanges (called "gateways" in the HELP Committee bill) that Klein keeps mentioning. The public plan is an available choice within an exchange. Under the HELP bill, the Gateways are state-based institutions, which means each state/region has to establish one (or the feds intervene), and we know from experience this will take many years to get every state on board.
While I agree that the exchange concept is necessary (e.g., because some entity has to implement/enforce minimum standards, coverage requirements and eligibility), Ezra apparently assumes that the availability of the public plan occurs when an exchange opens. That means access to the national public plan depends on the progress each state makes in building an exchange. That’s a mistake.
The national public health plan should be created and become available independent of the exchange start-ups. People need to be able to choose the national public option as soon as possible – within 1-2 years — and not have to wait for their state to get its exchange running.
In the meantime, tens of thousand of people will die and/or suffer from untreated illnesses. Hundreds of thousands more will go bankrupt because they don’t have health insurance, can’t afford care because their underinsurance doesn’t cover it, or find they have fraudulent insurance from companies who have hired legions of people to make sure their claims aren’t paid and their health problems aren’t covered by the insurance they thought covered them.
That means that regulations outlawing the most egregious insurer practices — exclusion for prior condition, rescission, unwarranted price discrimination, excessive co-payments and limits on total out-of-pocket costs, etc — are absolutely essential immediately, regardless of how the public plan debate is resolved.
So whether we’re building a single payer system or building a hybrid or transitional system that includes exchanges and a public plan that, through people exercising choice, could move in that direction, we have to have other interim reforms enacted immediately to reduce the deaths and financial hardships imposed by the current system.
Some of Ezra’s "more important" elements address this need. He argues, for example, that we need to expand Medicaid and the number of people eligible for it, not because Medicaid is a great system — it’s not and it varies state to state — but because it’s in place and we can quickly move 10 million low-income, uninsured people into it. This is needed triage.
We can also start requiring insurance, not because an individual mandate, reenforced by an employer mandate and contribution ("play or pay") is a good long-run solution — it’s not — but because we can get additional millions covered with something and subsidize their premiums. The size of, and eligibility for, the subsidies determine how many people get covered — that is, how many millions of people don’t go bankrupt, die or suffer from untreated illnesses. This is more essential triage, and as Klein notes, we need to advocate more liberal rules for providing these subsidies.
For the intermediate-to-long run, Ezra has been right to focus on building the exchanges. And he now sees that if the exchanges are going to be the mechanisms by which the public plan puts strong competitive pressure on private insurers to shape up or lose market share, there must be an "open access" rule (my terms from earlier posts). People have to be free to enter the exchange and choose the public option; the "Gateways" have to be open doors, not walls to keep people out while shielding the private insurers.
Klein is also right that just having something called a "public plan" is insufficient. The public plan has to be strong enough to attract people away from the private insurance system that has failed us. As I’ve written before, the public plan can’t perform this critical function if the market is separated so that most people aren’t allowed to choose the public plan.
Progressive bloggers should be reading Klein and Atrios as consistent, complementary. Klein’s list of other important matters is correct, and Atrios’ point that we need the public plan both for it’s own sake and as a rallying point to generate political support is also true.
The public plan is critical for the long run transition and forcing the private insurers to reform or be replaced. But there are lots of other essential reforms we should make now to prevent deaths and suffering while we’re building a reformed health care system.
More:
Rahm Emanuel, public health enemy?
Adam Green at Open Left, Obama to Rahm, Shut. Up.
Yglesias, what Max Baucus knows about France
HuffPo/Sam Stein, Obama tells Rahm to listen to Hamsher
Jonathan Cohn, how come other countries do this better?



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This is all so very complicated for the people we’re trying to cover, and so many things can go wrong if there’s a hole in the design that private insurers can take advantage of to keep on bilking the public and avoding delivery of health care services. The only reason why we’re contemplating jumping through these hoops is because so many in Congress are committed to the continued existence of the private insurers. I think that progressive support for this approach of the President’s is a mistake. All it will get us is a bill that disillusions people about the ability and desire of Democrats to represent their needs in preference to the insurance industry’s.
Continued opposition to the immediate/interim triage measures condemns a lot of people to needless suffering and deaths. I don’t see what’s progressive about that.
I go back to my old argument if our elites were smart and wise enough to come up with a coherent plan using and coordinating all these elements they would also be smart and wise enough to decide to move directly to a far simpler and more workable single payer plan.
We have only to look at the Obama approach to the economy to understand what will happen with healthcare. His approach there is not to reform or innovate but to prop up precisely those players who created the mess. I can’t see healthcare being any different.
If everybody is pissed off does that mean Obama did the right thing? One would think making the “people” happy would be alot more important than making industry happy. But then I don’t have to raise money for my next election.
Even if Congress said, “we want a sp system as soon as we can get it into place,” you’d still need to do some of the interim measures to provide the uninsured, underinsured, fraudulently insured with more protection than they have now. While the end goal is being designed/implemented, these people will die, suffer, and/or be financially wiped out — so we need to have more in the “reform” bill than a commitment to have a public plan (or sp).
That’s his main point. It’s not an argument about whether sp is better/worse than an intermediate/hybrid public plan, because this immediate need for triage is present in any scenario. During this interim period, arguments about sp or public plan are irrelevant to people who would die or suffer during the transition.
I mean this half rhetorically and half seriously, and I don’t mean this in a pejorative way, but, who is Ezra Klein?
Why has this person been put on a pedestal?
Again, I don’t mean this in a bad way, but, why is it that at least a few times a week this person gets quoted as some sort of guru on all things health care or social security?
What is the track record? What is it in his life experience that warrants this?
I’ve got to agree about your assessment of Ezra Klein. What does the guy bring to the table? His understanding of the politics of these things is so naive it’s laughable; he’s been played so many which ways already over this issue that I wonder if he can sit down.
And he can’t even seem to get the basic consequences of the policies right, which is supposed to be his value-add, if any.
To begin with, what is he even saying in his latest article? Is he saying that a public option is not necessary for good health care reform? That it’s not sufficient? Shouldn’t we have a clear idea of what he’s asserting here? I certainly make out that fundamental point in my (admittedly somewhat quick) reading of his thingy. I can only assume he’s saying that a public option isn’t even necessary — but didn’t see a sentence clearly entailing that point. (And of course this is very likely deliberate. He doesn’t want to have to make that very controversial statement if he can just throw up smoke instead that is intended to suggest the very same thing without the added burden of going on record asserting something pretty unsupportable.)
And Klein’s great admiration for the “Health Care Exchange” is absurd. Here in Massachusetts, we have the “Commonwealth Connector”, which is one model for such an exchange. It is, by itself, very close to worthless. At most it makes selecting a plan slightly easier, because it aggregates various plans in one place. I don’t see why an informal private website might not do the same thing. The only real value it might seem to add to the uninitiated is that it requires only a few very basic items of information for finding a plan: zip code and age, basically. But that is due to the demand in the relevant legislation that insurance companies offer plans only on that basis (thereby avoiding, for example, the pre-existing condition selection problem). All of the power arises from the regulations themselves, which are essentially independent of the Connector apparatus. This would presumably be true as well for any Health Exchange.
Klein brings up the public option in connection to the Health Exchange notion, trying to demonstrate the value of the Health Exchange. Yet what he doesn’t in any way address is how the Health Exchange has any value if there isn’t any public option.
In general, in all of Klein’s five policies, he never says anything about how we are supposed to get real downward pressure on health care costs, or private insurance costs, if a public option is not part of the package.
How the guy can neglect this most basic issue and be accounted an important guru on public health policy eludes my understanding.
Semantics are not important to the debate. They will be used to obfuscate any claim. A public option, paid for by taxes and run by the government is the only option that is acceptable. It is the only option that has to be run as a non profit, and the only way that all Americans will be covered. More than half of us think this is the way to go. Yet we are still arguing with people taking bribes to kill us.
That is what it is about, and there is no “fix” that does not prevent the insurance companies from further “Fixes”
Insurance and health is a crime. We are the laughing stock of the civilized world.
If Congressmen/women were all Judges, they would all have to recuse themselves for conflict of interest!
The fastest way to get Health Care for All? Get rid of 100% free, full health coverage for Congress tonight and there will be Universal Health Care for All tomorrow!
If any of you are Kossacks, please go over and recommend this crossposting of Jane’s Silo post on the House Democratic Caucus’ planned visit with Rahm Emanuel regarding this. Thanks very muchly!
Agreed. That’s an essential element of reform.
Without a mandatory timetable and budget allocation in the federal legislation, many states will lag in establishing an “exchange”. Who wants to wait for Mississippi, Alabama or Louisiana? Even states one might think of as the first to do it, like California, will be hampered by budget deficits and procedural rules that grant a de fact veto to Republicans.
Besides, a national standard is one of the principal reforms we need. Private insurers, like credit card companies, already cherry pick states and design coverage around individual state regulations they now contend with. They are experts at that game. A trigger that delays implementation of a public health insurance option would be throwing them in the briar patch. And Rahm knows it.
Another reform is that there be minimum elements in a qualifying health insurance contract. It should permit, for example, no exclusion for pre-existing conditions or “routine” services like vaccinations and check-ups. Those kinds of preventive care are precisely what should be covered.
There should be no cancellations without demonstrable fraud – and that fraud ought to be unrelated to the health of the insured, which would be easy if things like “pre-existing conditions” were not reasons to exclude or deny coverage.
Given this president’s predilection for what looks inside the Beltway as “the middle”, the public insurance option seems to be the only mechanism that will immediately adopt and promote these kinds of legitimate health insurance contracts. Which itself is only a means to enhance the availability and utilization of better, often preventive, health care for more people. Otherwise, the privates will experiment for years with clauses that attempt to achieve the same financial end while seeming not to.
My argument is this is about civil rights and communal public health, which we will need to deal with the systemic changes that confront us and our children. The profitability of a single group of companies ought not be allowed to stand in the way. They will, insurers and health service providers consumes one-sixth of our GDP. We need more and better arguments to deal with them.
is not universal health care provided by the government defined in the Constitution and Declaration of Independence? The inalienable right to life, the promotion of the general welfare? This is a function of government, one of those things that government alone can provide society better than the individual can provide.
And why should health care be done at a state-level? The providers of health care are not state-level, they are national. The program can only work at a national level.
And insurance should not be a capitalistic thing. It can not be adequately served with a for-profit motive. It is a required societal need, those things just don’t mix with private business motives.
The right to life does not include the right to a paid-for doctor. The Founders would be turning over in their graves if you said that to them. THat would imply the right to a house for nice living as well. Or the right to food, which even they didn’t grant. No way. No Public Doctors. Just as bad as public toilets. This bill must be defeated.
You obviously have never been without health care when you may die. And people who are in these situations have often been placed there by unfettered corporate capitalism, lack of regulation and greed. Unfettered corporate capitalism equals murder by spread sheet. Are you saying human beings have no right to life when they may be standing outside of a hospital that will not admit them due to lack of insurance/funds? The word public also means citizen. To say that the public option has to be bad only means that you have no confidence in the citizens of this country. Isn’t this a democracy? Don’t 71% of the citizens polled favor the public option?
People in this country WITH health insurance (including Medicare) often die needlessly because insurance companies dictate what treatments they will pay for, or because providers knowing they are working for bottom dollar don’t try all that hard. I lost both my parents that way. They had Medicare and supplemental insurance. It was pretty clear when each of them entered the hospital that some predetermination had been made that at ages 77 and 80 they’d had a good run and no great effort would be expended to keep them around.
U.S. health care, best in the world… NOT.
I differ with friends here. I agree the unalienable rights refer to that which is inherent in a person and NOT that which they somehow deserve others to do for them — thus there is no right to keep slaves.
But, if gov’t enables people and assists them to pay for the services of someone else. I know there’s taxation and distribution of that to the poor, but if it’s to help people stay alive, then it certainly qualifies under the Constitutional duty to provide for the General Welfare of the People.
Too bad the founders didn’t mandate universal health care in the Constitution. Of course with the strict interpretation favored by the current SCOTUS that would probably mean Americans would be required to keep on hand an adequate supply of leeches.
I agree that one can put a right to reasonable health care under the Cosntitution’s powers of government to “promote the general welfare” and it’s consistent with the Declarations notion of inalienable rights.
None of the proposals says “health care is done at the state level.” Care is provided by your doctor, your hospital, ect. Then there’s an accounting system to collect money to pay for care and pay the providers. That can be organized in different ways.
In the House and HELP reform bills, the “state” roles is to provide an institution to manage competition and implement/enforce standards. The “federal role is provide the means for collecting and dispersing revenues, set the standards of care. In single payer and public plan models, the government also functions as a public entity providing insurance.
I also agree that very little of the competitive market rhetoric fits the provision of health care, so an organized (by govt) structure is probably necessary.
Generally, if people provide sufficient services to one another (individually or via companies), then government doesn’t get involved. If on the other hand it’s something that isn’t getting done (say public libraries), then the government should consider doing something. Right now the insurers aren’t covering everyone and the prices of insurance and care are beyond many people. Seems like time for government to do something.
Insurers are licensed by each state and many aren’t national. It would be better if they could all compete nationally, as can other kinds of companies.
Would the same progressives who oppose anything but single-payer have opposed the original Medicare legislation because it did not cover prescription drugs? Would they have opposed the Civil Rights Act because it didn’t include sexual orientation or gender identity? Would these progressives have opposed the original CHIP because it didn’t include the families we finally added to the program this year?
I really, really don’t like quoting Senator Dianne Feinstein, but her adage certainly applies here. By splitting the progressive troops between those opposed to anything but single-payer and the rest of us who favor a public plan because it is both possible and an eventual path to single-payer, we are allowing the perfect to be the enemy of the good.
We are also allowing snakes like Rahm Emanuel to tilt the playing field ever closer to what insurance companies want. If we all stand together for a public plan, we will win one. If we split our efforts and denigrate those who favor a public plan as sellouts, we won’t get anything any progressive wants.
Let’s lay the foundation for transformative health care today.
Right on!
Rhetorical question: using that logic, shouldn’t Prop 8 be acceptable?
I doubt that there are many progressives who would vote against a robust public option bill, if that were the only alternative that could be passed. I’d certainly favor such a bill in that case. But there’s no question that taking single payer off the table at the beginning has a) deprived us of the chance to see whether single payer could get enough public support to win the day and b) structured the alternatives in such a way that the Republicans and ConservaDems don’t need have to be afraid of the possibility that single payer might win enough public support to pass. This has freed them to oppose robust public options because they have nothing to lose by doing so. If opposing such options was seen by the public as scorn of the compromise position, rather than opposition to the most liberal alternative, I think the ConservaDems, at least, would be less willing to oppose a robust public option. In short, I think Obama has framed the alternatives badly on health care; just as he also botched them on the original stimulus bill.
Right. The real relevant question would be, if Congress were debating a civil rights bill today, would we ask that LGBT rights be on the table? Or would we just accept somebody’s word that it isn’t possible?
Very well said.
The Founders would be turning over in their graves at the absence of the operation of the checks and balances they so laboriously wrote into the Constitution at about the same time Adam Smith assumed they would work in the world of the economy. They aren’t working well there, either.
Health care in 1776 was leeches, salt water gargles, hope and prayer. I gather it’s that level of medical science Republicans would prefer. Only those owning 500 acres and ten slaves, or 1000 acres and twenty slaves being deserving enough of access to the “best medical care” on the planet.
This is a bit off topic, but this clip is a must see. According to Mika Brzezinski, conservatives in this country are not having their voices heard.
You got to see this, she is insane.
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2066
you fight for everything you think is necessary. we can’t settle for some fancy words thinking that will provide what we expect. And how can health care really be a topic for a fight? Health care? There needs to be discussion about whether someone should or shouldn’t get health care? Hey, if you don’t want someone to get health care, why not just kill them now instead of wasting time?
Health care, yeah, it is a right, one of those inalienable ones.
Umm … for people who have no health insurance and cannot afford it, whatever Ezra says (who has health insurance and can afford it), is slightly … well … totally beside the point.
This is 3 Card Monte, friends. So long as the “haves” can shift around the bean and cup to make everyone forget that we have 40 million “not haves” in the U.S., and that these “not haves” can either die or wait decades for affordable health insurance, and then die, then the status quo remains:
Only “advanced” society on Earth that has no universal, basic health care for its citizens.
Wonks suck.
40 million have nots and
25 million with plans too expensive to use.
75 million not and under insured.
25% of the population.
And we are discussing “insurance” exchanges? Insurance is the last thing we need. If insurance were any form of solution then we would not have 25% without effective health care.
I don’t care what the Health Care Industry promises, I don’t believe it. If they could deliver affordable, effective health care we’d be able to buy it.
As we can’t buy affordable, effective health care, the Insurance Industry can’t deliver affordable, effective health care. Because the Insurance Industry can’t deliver the service they are incorporated and required to deliver, the Insurance Industry deserves to be shut down.
As it will under any form of available public option. I cannot image any employer not saying within microseconds to the bulk of its employees, “Good News, you are in the public plan as of 6:00 pm tonight.”
Atrios actually WROTE something?!
Longer than a sentence? A whole paragraph?? TWO whole paragraphs???
Wow. He’s improving.
FDL FOLKS MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THE FOLLOWING FROM BUZZ FLASH. THERE IS SOME GOOD NEWS.
The state of health reform in California
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Sheila Kuehl a former state legislator who served the maximum number of terms (14 years in office), was the author of a single-payer health bill passed by the California State Legislature but vetoed by Governor Schwartzenegger explains how a public health insurance option can work with single-payer state initiatives. . ”California’s work on Single Payer can inform those developing the Public Option. I don’t think it hurts the single payer movement in California to strongly push for a public option in the federal healthcare reform bill, so long as states are allowed, in the federal bill, to adopt their own approach if it’s more comprehensive. Our representatives who favor the inclusion of a public option in the federal legislation report that they are hearing every day from single payer advocates, which, they say, aids them in holding the line, as they can say the public option is the very least their constituents will accept. —Our work in crafting a more than 100-page, fully mature, single payer bill in California helps to inform the federal work in identifying approaches that make healthcare less costly, make certain it is universal and affordable, set forth a rationale for a minimum benefits package in all plans, and establish a path to a central, electronic, database.”
AND HOORAY FOR BERNIE SANDERS!
BLESSINGS
It’s no fun watching centrists arguing over how “progressive” it is not to have single payer.
in the long, run we’re all dead.
– john maynard keynes
medicare was implemented, from scratch, in 9 months, in an era of no computers, and it included actual physical inspections of every single hospital to make sure they were complying with the civil rights act [no segregated ‘whites only’ care].
canada first started working on universal health care in approx 1908, and got it in ~1970. we first started working on it in approx 1912 and would now be celebrating our 20th, maybe 25th, anniversary of universal health care had we continued on the same approximate trajectory.
at some point you just grit your teeth, ditch incrementalism, and commit.