Everyone is wondering what Olympia Snowe will do in response to Max Baucus "reform" bill and whether she’ll help in meeting the 60-vote Senate obstacle. Will she or won’t she?
Thursday she told NYT reporter John Harwood that her party has changed and moved away from her.
Snowe also released a statement (h/t TPM) on her own that included this:
I believe the Chairman’s legislation moves in the right direction away from a government-run system contained in bills that have passed other Congressional committees, but a number of issues still need to be addressed — including cost assumptions and ultimate affordability to both consumers and the government as well as ensuring appropriate competition in the health insurance exchange.
And she joined in a statement with Senators Joe Lieberman, Ben Nelson, and Claire McCaskill "commending" Baucus for his proposal but noting this:
"Despite the differences that have emerged in this health care debate, there is much that we all agree on, including insurance market reforms that bar insurance companies from discriminating against people based on their health status or denying coverage due to pre-existing conditions. We also agree on prevention and wellness investments, critical delivery reforms like paying for quality rather than quantity, increasing access to care by improving health care provider training programs, and reducing uncompensated care by extending tax credits to American families to help pay for their health care coverage.
Gosh, that only leaves out whether we should or shouldn’t have individual mandates, whether employers should provide insurance of pay into a fund if they don’t, and whether private insurers have to face competition from a public option.
They’ve rejected the House surtax on the wealthiest, but we don’t know whether they’re willing to tax the middle class via a tax on high-end insurance plans or whether they think it’s fair to force uninsured Americans to purchase insurance when Lieberman and Nelson have complained more about the deficit than about the disaster the nation’s health care system has become.
And since the insurers made the insurance reforms the Senators support conditional on the mandate that everyone buy their products with federal subsidies but no competition, we’re left with . . . what? That opfte repeated phrase, "we have agreement on 80 percent," has always been a bit shaky.
I think Snowe is/can be a sensible person, and she clearly understands her Party has gone off the deep end. We can only hope that getting her to do something sensible will bring along clueless Ben Nelson and the opportunistic Joe Lieberman. If not, you have to wonder if the Senate is capable of doing anything except celebrate motherhood and apple pie and adopt pound foolish limits on immigrants contributing to the costs of health care, and I’m not sure about motherhood.
Update:
Greg Sargeant,Plum Line, Rockefeller tells Ezra Klein that Snowe is getting hammered by Republicans not to agree to any health reform bill.



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Let’s hope the angels of Sen. Snowe’s sensible nature come to the fore.
Snow can be sensible?
Seems to me that when it really counts, she goes the Repub way. This statement sounds pretty Repub to me – maybe not the “modern” Repub since she probably doesn’t believe that the Pres. is socialist/Hitler/furrin, but otherwise…standard stuff. Cost above benefit.
well.. we don’t want her, do we? Perhaps she should team up with Collins, Specter, McCain and he-who-must-not-be-named of Connecticut and start her own party. Or just join CFL ;-P
the CFL party thats funny, and apropo, it also stands for the “Canadian Football League”:minor league.
Although one is reminded that this is simlar to the kinds of things Specter was saying before he jumped parties, one also thinks “what difference does it make?”
Even if Snowe feels lonely as a nominal “moderate”, her position on hcr is still anything but moderate. Her views may be a quieter form of cruel coldness, but they’re cruel and cold nonetheless. Whether she stays faithful to her bankrupt GOP, or thaws to the corrupt position of Baucus, who the fuck cares. Eiher way, she’s toxic.
I hope she comes around and does the right thing, but I’m not holding out too much hope. Between the HMO campaign contributions and the GOP leadership cracking down on her, she may not feel compelled to do the right thing. But then again, Maine has turned strongly blue and a large majority of Mainers support the public option. Whatever she does, I’m sure the Club for Growth teabaggers will want to primary her in 2012. Maybe there’s still hope she’ll “pull a Specter”?
And btw, sorry to go a little O/T, but I must ask: Why has Olympia Snowe been so silent on Question 1? She’s always supported LGBT civil rights before, so why won’t she do it again when some of the most vulnerable Mainers need her the most? I also think how she reacts to the fight for marriage equality in her own state will prove whether she has the guts to buck the GOP leadership and do the right thing.
Let her switch, then primary her with a REAL dem!
This cold witchead,has had THE PUBLIC OPTION paid by US SINCE SHE WAS 26 YEARS OLD….PROLLY 40 OR MORE years
Yes, I would like to see all congressional health insurance pulled until we get a sensible plan that covers everyone. It’s really unfair that they can diddle and daddle like this when they don’t have any skin in the game.
Could we pass this stuff then come back with a bill through recission that creates a PO and taxes the wealthiest?
The United States Senate is the single biggest obstacle to progressive change in this country. It’s an arcane institution run by a set of ridiculous rules, with all sorts of procedural privileges granted to a bunch of cranky old millionaires. Until we fix the Senate and fix the campaign finance system, we’re going to be pissing into the wind.
Snowe’s health care reform goals… #1: Kill the Public Option. #2: Waste everybody’s time by fanning speculation about what she might or not support, whether she might become a Democrat, etc.
I’m over it.
Quite the little prima donna she’s become.
Hey Olympia…I believe in “triggers” too…
But the insurance industry crossed the tipping-point long ago. They didn’t serve the elderly. So that’s why we got Medicare. The didn’t serve the poor with children…so we needed a public-plan there. The violated the public trust by rejecting people from hospitals…sometimes General Hospitals and Emergency Rooms that they were legally obligated to treat people in. But they hauled people away in ambulances or taxis, dumping them in a “competitors” turf.
Olympia…if there had been a “public option” years ago your Mom might have been diagnosed early and treated for that cancer. There are millions of women today that are being denied those diagnostics and treatments by their insurers. Your father might be alive if there had been a public option. Your uncle may have been able to afford treatment…tens of thousands of other peoples “Uncles” are in the same situation, rejected for “pre-existing conditions”.
These folks were productive tax-paying citizens…yet you talk about health care as if early treatment reduces the productivity of our society. It’s not a burden on the taxpayer…it’s a benefit. We all benefit when families don’t go bankrupt, lose their provider, themselves drift into poverty and dependency.
The “triggers” were tripped years ago. The public option IS the “second chance” for the private insurers to get their act together. If they fail to do so we should then move to single-payer. THIS should be the trip-wire conseguence for the extortionist gougers in the insurance industry.
I’m over it.
ditto.
At this point, I think that the choices are between “that sucks”, “that *really* sucks”, and “what in doG’s name was I thinking when I voted for these fools?”
The worst thing that the insurance companies have to fear is (due to individual mandate and not being able to deny pre-existing) is that they’ll have more business than they can handle.
now there’s a problem that every business would just *hate* having forced upon them.
The insurers didn’t do that, the senators did. Insurance companies have exactly as much power over senators as the senators allow them to have.
If my friend tells me to go over and steal that kid’s ice cream cone, and I comply, it would not be accurate to say that my friend stole the ice cream cone. Obviously, I should have had the sense to decline his request.
If Snowe and the rest of the Repubs had any sense they would jump at the Baucus bill. It has everything a sane Repub could want: a giant windfall for the insurance industry. fake coverage for low income people. Institutionalized nickle-and-diming, death by inches for the working poor. No meaningful change for anybody else. They oughta rejoice. They get bi-partisan cred from the Village and the Democrats get saddled with ownership of crap policy and a crap bill. What more could they ask for?
Snowe has the typical Republican response to health care reform – it’s just that the rest of the Republicans are bat-sh*t crazy, leaving her to present the Republican position.
Indeed.
Give the Senate some credit, ‘Crow — they did manage to de-fund ACORN of its three and a half million federal dollars per year. With only seven Democrats voting NAY!
So, the Senate can accomplish something: they can respond quickly, irresponsibly, and totally symbolically to a right-wing ClusterFox faux-hissyfit about a few bad apples in the only organization that’s actually helping poor people stay in their homes.
There’s that.
A BIG “TOU-CHE”"
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Along the lines of the comment of tejanarusa @2
I will have to be shown one, and only one, concrete example of Sen Snowe actually BEING sensible as opposed to 1) expected to be, 2) hoped to be or 3) perceived to be needed to be -
sensible.
Even if she were sensible here, starting with retracting everything she’s said in quotes, above,
it’s highly unlikely Nelson and L-man would be moved.
But then there are about 10-12 OTHER “Democrats” who need also to be moved not even mentioned above.
Which Republican “angel” will be recruited to deal with them?
Actually, It’s in our best interests for Snowe to side with the Republicans. If she votes with Baucus it will strengthen the blue dogs. If she sides with the republicans it will embolden the progressives and force the bill into reconciliation which is the only hope for a public option. Read Robert Reich’s article about this. I’m not getting my hopes up. I don’t think Obama has the teeth to get it done right. He seems more interested in being viewed as a “bi-partisan” mediator than actually getting things done.
All this is Republican gamesmanship. We always fall for their crap. And it’s all because we Democrats are not focused. All this nonsense about Snowe is designed to suck us in even more, force us to weaken an already very weak bill trying to woo her. And when they have sucked us as dry as they could, she’ll say she is voting NO.
Exactly.
The only difference between Snowe job and the GOP is she may wear a parachute as she and the pack race off the cliff.
Snowe and Grassley did exactly what the Republicans told them to do. They caught Baucus in a net. Now they’ve presented a bill that no reasonable Democrat would vote for. So the Republicans win. No reasonable health care reform bill from the Senate Finanace Committee. Everytime a Republican says he/she believes we need health care reform, every American should shout “You lie”.