Ezra Klein appeared on MSNBC’s Countdown and repeated his view that if progressive Democrats were forced to give up on what is now a watered down public option, they should get worthwhile features that achieve the public option’s intended goals. From Ezra’s blog:
Having something called a public option is not, in the end analysis, as important as achieving the goals of the public option, and at this point, the policy itself is getting so watered down that it might be worth attempting to achieve its goals in a more straightforward fashion.
I don’t support confusing means and ends either, but what exactly would constitute an acceptable substitute for achieving what you hoped the public option would achieve? Klein asserts that the goals were affordability and choice. Hence possible substitutes to trade for would be:
. . . a few hundred billion more in subsidies, a national exchange that’s open to larger businesses, and tighter rating rules governing how much insurers can discriminate against people of different ages and demographic characteristics. The first would do more than a really weak public option to increase affordability, the second would do more to increase choice, and the third would just be a good idea.
By themselves, getting higher subsidies and even a larger exchange would make the bills better, and they should be pursued regardless. But giving up the public option would increase budget costs, since even the weakened PO seems to push prices lower and save money on subsidies. If we also increased subsidies and allowed more people into the exchange, and thus made more people eligible for subsidies, that would also increase budget costs. So Klein is suggesting a "trade" that on both ends would increase the budget costs.
But these features aren’t even effective substitutes for a viable public option. In fact, they’re virtually useless in achieving the public option’s central purposes.
One problem is that while billions more in subsidies would make the insurance more affordable to enrollees — and hence, make the individual mandates more defensible — it would essentially leave the underlying insurance premiums and the provider costs they cover unchecked. With no public option, there would be less competitive pressure on further cost increases.
So the effect would be to raise federal budget costs but not lower the nation’s health care or insurance costs. Better affordability may be needed, but that’s a poor way to achieve it and a bad trade.
Similarly, expanding access to the exchange can be a good idea, but that’s only if the insurance offered in the exchange becomes efficient at lowering insurance rates and putting downward pressure on provider costs. But expanding the exchange in the absence of a PO’s cost-cutting attributes simply means that more people would be allowed to choose from higher-cost insurance, while the federal subsidy costs would rise dramatically with the expanded access. That’s a recipe for breaking the budget.
What’s missing from the analysis is an appreciation for the cost-cutting efficiencies originally contemplated for a strong (Medicare-like) public option. A national public plan linked to Medicare would have the market power both to pressure private insurers and to confront those providers who exercise market power to keep raising provider fees and insurance rates.
When the Urban Institute examined "Is the Public Plan Option a Necessary Part of Health Reform," it emphasized the non-competitive nature of today’s insurance and provider markets. Those markets are highly concentrated, and the text-book theories of efficient competition do not apply. It then stressed the public option’s ability to acquire and use countervailing market power, both to compete effectively with other insurers in an otherwise concentrated insurance market, and to negotiate effectively with a provider industry that itself has become highly concentrated and non-competitive.
This rationale for a strong public option is being forgotten in the Senate discussion of alternatives. If we really want to make health care/insurance more "affordable" and give people real "choices," we have to do more than increase federal subsidies and expand the exchange. We have to have mechanisms to counteract existing market concentration and market power and drive down costs. A strong public option with market power could do that, but Klein’s substitutes wouldn’t. To get there, we need to substantially strengthen the public option in the bills, not trade it away for faux substitutes, whatever their other merits.
Bargaining away the public option for higher subsidies and a larger exchange isn’t a good trade; it’s a bad one. And it’s confusing the major reasons why, in the absence of Medicare for all/single payer, we needed a strong public plan in the first place.
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See also, Urban Institute’s recent paper, "Getting to a Public Option that Contains Costs: Negotiations, Opt-Outs and Triggers" which furthers these arguments while suggesting that if the public option were triggered, the trigger should be more likely to occur and automatic and the public option should be the strong, Medicare-based national plan described in the earlier paper.



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Nice work putting Ezra’s work in its proper perspective.
Thanks for the read.
WaPo Ezra, not the same as the Prospect Ezra. Pragmatist beats Principled.
“a few hundred billion more in subsidies” is a few hundred billion more in Corporate Welfare for the Insurance Companies!
Let me say it s-l-o-w-l-y.
NOT A DIME OF FEDERAL SUBSIDIES GOES TO HEALTH CARE!
IT ALL GOES TO INSURANCE COMPANIES!
True, increasing subsidies is just want the insurance companies want from all this, especially since Obama-Rahma have all but taken away any pressure on them to worry with cost controls. Hey, if we want the really sick to be taken care of in this country, then us little people got to pay our protection money. Gosh darn it, and if we don’t really like the bills going through congress because the POs have been subverted and de-balled and want to kill the bills, well, you people don’t want to take care of the sick in this country. Because killing the bill and ending the subsidy food-trough will just end up killing people. You little people don’t want that to happen do you? So just shut-up and pay your protection money so the insurance companies can achieve even higher rates of profit. That’s the American way, reward those hard working corporate pirates for their callous disregard for the good of the Nation?
Beneath all the other problems presented by insurance companies’ failure to do the job they advertise, that of insuring against catastrophe, is their funneling the premiums we pay – under false pretenses – into their expense to guard against the demand that they actually perform the function they advertise. The insurance industry is defrauding the public, and making obscene profits by doing it. Until this robbery is ended, the government has not protected the public as it is charged to do, but rather rendered us victims of legalized robbery.
oh stop it with the profit crap. That red herring was so 20 years ago. If we took every penny of insurers profits it would amount to a savings of about $0.25 per covered person under private health insurance in the US per day. $7 per month. Sure let’s force them all to be non-profits (although most already are but you won’t hear that TRUTH around here.) Somehow that doesn’t get us much. You need to focus on getting the cost down which also none of this reform does. You need to get away from fee for service plus you need to deal with the obesity problem in the US. It seems as if we’ve put such a stigma on smoking that we’ve helped with that problem over the last 20 years which is good but we now have a more severe, more costly problem that’s already becoming catastrophic.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/30/health/webmd/main5829670.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody
72 MILLION AMERICANS ARE NOW OBESE. YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY HEALTHCARE COSTS SO MUCH GO LOOK THERE. VERY SOON HALF OF AMERICA WILL BE CLINICALLY OBESE. AND NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT IT.
do you think congress would pass a bill mandating people to eat less? lol jk
WTF???
Can you at least stick to the subject, instead of trying to hijack the thread.
(Hint: Write about your favorite topics in your own post. Don’t clutter up other people’s stuff.)
actually cost and the public option have everything to do with each other and even a robust public option tied to a FFS system won’t do anything to help these costs. Even single payer can’t be sustained with obesity levels of 50%. Also i haven’t seen an obesity thread anywhere around here (although i honestly haven’t been around that much). Point me in that direction and I’m there although I’m sure i’ll be pretty lonley there. In defense of Ezra at least he mentions that in trying to be honest about it as opposed to pushing an agenda like many on here.
Did you view the link? What we’ve been told by everyone around here is that healthcare in the US is 37th in the world because of the lack of healthcare. Well part of that is true but the study clearly showed that if all adults stopped smoking (1 in 5 currently do as opposed to 2 in 5 30 years ago AND if all adults reached normal weight levels the US would GAIN 4 years of life expectancy thus putting the US at the TOP of the WHO list. Then if we got everyone covered imagine how great our system would look.
Sorry for the continued hijacking (not really)
Ezra currently works for Warren Buffett and Thomas Gaynor and is desperate for a bill with mandates to pass.
It strikes me more and more (and I’ve believed this since I was 16) that we are fully engaged like NO other time in our lives in a grand class struggle.
While this struggle was of a slowe pace when I was 16, the speed of this struggle being waged by the 1% against the masses and the POWER of this struggle has become a runaway freight train going downhill on a winding mountain rail.
There are times, when I step back and look at all the fronts we the people are under assault from, that it’s completely mind boggling and staggering.
We desperately need to have a WIN on HCR, that includes a vibrant and competitive Public Option.
Alas . . . . . . I feel gloomy WRT that . . .
It feels like the 1% is moving in for the kill and the final twist of the sword before they pull it out.
These are desperate times, more so than I’ve ever felt in my time on this rock. And not because I’ve aged.
As I said above, nice post Scarecrow, thanks for sharing and for all you do.
This exercise has become a total joke. The insurance companies have been ripping us off and ruining lives for years and are now thwarting the will of a majority of Americans. Remind me again who our government represents? It sure as heck is not average Americans.
I say enough of this voting for the lesser or two evils every 4 years. They are both evil. If the choice was between Hitler or Stalan would you still ignore the third choice because you beleived they had no chance to win? We need to stop voting for anyone with a D or an R next to their name. I understand that it will take a few cycles before a third party become viable but the sooner we start then the sooner we can be done with the Dems and Repubs both of whom only work for the corporations. Enough is enough. America needs to wake up!
Completely agree. Onward and upward with the boycott
“One problem is that while billions more in subsidies would make the insurance more affordable to enrollees — and hence, make the individual mandates more defensible — it would essentially leave the underlying insurance premiums and the provider costs they cover unchecked. With no public option, there would be less competitive pressure on further cost increases.”
I thought the object of health care reform was to eliminate the S&I Insurance companies misuse of policy holders and to reduce the cost of health care. What the package has become, with or without the PO is a GRAND GOLDEN EGG for the industry we are trying to reform.
I support the PO, but it needs to be a robust, strong PO that will compete with the S&I Insurance industry model and it should allow business to bring their employees into the PO. With American business, in the employer based system, allowed to cover employees under the PO, it would force the S&I Insurance industry to lower policy costs to compete or lose their bread & butter market, American Businesses. If the PO is only for those unable to get coverage at their place of employment, then the PO will not have the cost reducing effect we all want it to have.
Let individuals & American Business enroll in the PO if they so choice.
Nothing Intimidates the health insurers like some PUBLIC OPTION competition!
Without a PUBLIC OPTION, there is NO health care reform!
We need to put a stake in the heart of the predatory, obsolete, yearly S&I Insurance industry. Let it go the way of the Buggy Whip and Slide Rule industries!
“There is nothing so difficult in all human affairs as to change the established order of things….. Because those who have it are certain of what they will lose, and those who will gain are uncertain of their advance.” – President Bill Clinton – NetRoots
So, does this mean that Ezra Klein is Rahm’s new best buddy?
I do not yet understand how it will be possible to design a non-laughable trigger that isn’t already met in most insurance markets. With two insurers having captured 70% or more of business in some states, how will a trigger be designed that doesn’t retroactively introduce a public option? Unless the Secretary of HHS will also be in the pocket of the insurers.
Scarecrow, I’ve noticed that the insurance companies are claiming they have to raise premiums so much because of ‘rising health care costs’, without ever mentioning that insurance premiums are a large part of those costs.
Hell, the company I work for – it’s a Fortune 500 company – is saying that increasing insurance costs are starting to hit its bottom line. That means it must be much, much worse for smaller businesses.
We need to get regulatory control of for-profit insurers and force their prices down, and we need that public option.
Scarecrow, I’ve noticed that the insurance companies are claiming they have to raise premiums so much because of ‘rising health care costs’, without ever mentioning that insurance premiums are a large part of those costs.
Seriously? Healthcare costs DRIVE premiums, not the other way around. At large Fortune 500 companies like yours they’re self insured meaning the employer is the insurer. The employer is paying the cost. All an insurance company does for your employer is garner them a discount (usually around 50-55% of retail cost) for medical services. For this they most often charge an administration fee that is a drop in the bucket compared to what the employer saves as part of that discount. There is no PROFIT by an insurer at a company like yours. It would mean the employer is profiting from itself and that makes even less sense.
Please explain to me exactly what you mean by this:
We need to get regulatory control of for-profit insurers and force their prices down,
So, a public option trumps all other possibilities, even if (a) it’s a watered down weak public option, and (b) the other possibilities might actually accomplish some of the goals of health care reform?
Why is that? So Jane can say she “won”? Is that the deal breaker here?
Prediction: They have finally engaged the wedge that will split the progressive wing of the party. They are going to trade away the public option in exchange for dropping the Stupak Amendment. They are going to trade away the promise of real HC reform for the status quo on abortion under Hyde with the expectation that they can get back the women’s rights true believers.
I hope the woman’s rights coalition is smart enough to recognize that if they go for this trade, they will become the pariahs responsible for killing the public option and it may be the last legislative victory they ever achieve.
Let’s see if the progressives can stick together and let this turkey of a bill become the roadkill it deserves to be. I’m not holding my breath.
It is hard to decipher what motivates people to oppose the PO. And the question needs to be posed generally.
Even though as designed the PO is at a disadvantage with respect to private plans it still saves money according to CBO and it is a haven for those whose medical conditions require costly care. These are real advantages that can not be just blown off. Furthermore arguments as to whether the PO should be included in the current HCR effort do not in the least depend on the fact that SP is a better alternative, that while true is irrelevant.
The PO is at a disadvantage wrt private plans primarily because it is not allowed to adjust premiums to account for the cost of care of enrollees, while private plans are allowed to do so. But this fact only means that rather than go into a private plan where their premiums, subsidized if needed, will increase their profit, people with costly care will instead go into the PO and benefit only themselves. The cost of subsidies to the taxpayer to cover people that need expensive care, where needed, is the same no matter which plan covers them. By having the PO you in essence deprive private plans from further profit.
This highlights the absurdity of alternate proposals to do away with the PO, such as those proposed by Landrieu, et al. You can not argue against it in terms of cost containment because while the PO reduces cost that is not the main provision of HCR designed to bring down cost. Such things as savings from Medicare and Medicaid are much more important in this regard.
Neither can you argue that it is coercive for the government to require you be insured, because then all you need to argue against is the provision that mandates coverage. In this regard if mandates are precluded then people who are uninsured are free to opt for the PO or private plans as suits their purpose. In this way there is no justification for including opt-out or opt-ins or triggers.
If you don’t want to be insured then don’t, even though subsidies will make insurance affordable. And if the thought of being insured by a private insurer is repugnant to you, then you can opt for the PO, regardless of your medical care needs.