The panel announced for ABC’s This Week should have been a warning: "Danger: Really Stupid and Dishonest Comments Likely."
ABC’s This Week: The Chair of the President’s Council of Economic Advisers, Christina Romer, on job numbers, the housing market, and the possibility of a double-dip recession. Roundtable: George Will, Liz Cheney, Al Hunt, Judy Woodruff, Robert Reich.
Just allowing Judy and Al on the same show was embarrassing, but allowing a vicious partisan hack like Liz Cheney to spew her poison was beyond the pale . . . and then they added George Will!! Nevertheless, I foolishly tuned in about half way through the panel because I wanted to hear Christy Romer (whom I respect).
Instead I was just in time to hear Liz Cheney, whose purpose in life is to make false statements and mount malicious personal attacks against Obama — and liberals — as a strategy for keeping her father from being tried for war crimes. It is shameful that ABC would give this woman a forum unless to denounce and refute her.
She furthered her goals by proclaiming that the reason an explosive-in-his-shorts Nigerian got on a plane bound for Detroit was because the Obama administration was unwilling to torture people. No one countered this; could no one on this panel remind her that her father’s policies are a primary reason people from a dozen countries are volunteering to kill Americans? Shame on all of them.
Stephanopoulos then cited Nate Silver for the calculation that the chances of being killed by a terrorist on US airlines was some astronomically small number — was it 1 in 25,000,000? — vastly less than being struck by lightening, to which George Will concluded this was proof that "government is inefficient."
No George, this is proof that America’s government, its political parties and its atrocious media and Beltway pundits are overly preoccupied with the wrong priorities.
Our media has been overwhelmed with stories wondering why US intelligence sources did not connect the dots on Mr. Underpants. So you probably missed the NYT articles here and here that Yves Smith was tracking on how the people who make hamburger for the nation’s school lunch programs routinely add in portions of the cow that, uh, are "likely to be contaminated with feces," resulting in a constant threat of E. Coli poisoning, that may (if you believe the beef companies’ studies) or may not "control" the contamination via ammonia treatment. School lunch officials complained, but no one told the rest of the Dept of Agriculture and FDA, and the threat is out there, every day, that you could literally be eating shit sandwiches.
Wanna read more about "failure to connect the dots"? Start here:
Tainted Burgers Show that Corporate Profits Trump Public Safety (Cargill and McDonald’s Version)
Or how about connecting the dots to find out how over a hundred immigrants died while in the custody of Immigration and Customs Enforcement and why government is still covering up the investigations.
And you might not have seen any coverage of a new study published in Science showing how inadequate federal regulation has allowed coal mining companies to ravage the environment and endanger the lives and health of thousands in communities across America through mountain-top removal. What did the last five Presidents — and last 50 Governors — know, and when did they know it?
Unless you watch Rachel Maddow, you likely missed coverage of how the financial reform bills have been hopelessly watered down, so the much needed Consumer Finance Protection Agency may not survive the intense corruption between industry and Congress. Do you think Geithner’s NY Fed efforts to suppress A.I.G. SEC filings is a dot? Is it connected to the bankster’s bonuses? Is the "jobless recovery" connected to the 50 Little Hoover time bombs ticking away in state budgets?
There have been dozens of stories in the last few weeks and months about the total breakdown of regulation to protect the public health and safety and the broader public interest. The problem was bad enough during the last Administration, but it hasn’t ended. The problem stems from what has become the core principle of the Obama Administration, one enthusiastically embraced by Beltway pundits: No one in the elite can be held accountable for harming the public. And when the principle of accountability disappears, then the line between politics and criminality disappears.
It’s just old news that some 45,000 people will die this year because they didn’t have health insurance and couldn’t get health care. But of course, the Congress and the Administration have a nifty plan that will cut that by more than half, they say, which means that only 20,000 or so people will die from our disgraceful health care system. Can we get some dot-connecting focused on that, media?
Liz Cheney never mentioned that her Party couldn’t offer a single vote to help solve any of these problems, especially the problem that will kill 45,000 Americans this year, and next, and next, and 20,000 or so even after a decade. Instead, she and her fellow slashers were all out complaining that Obama couldn’t connect the dots in Yemen. These people have no clue what a dot looks like or where to look.
Update: via HuffPo, if even George Will thinks Liz Cheney is beyond the pale, what’s ABC’s excuse?
Update II: Frank Rich on the same theme — why we need to connect the dots on the financial crisis.



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I did not watch this show but my first thought as soon as I saw the names that were appearing was “Poor robert Reich”
Clearly, what we need is a War on Lightning.
Yep, if you’re eating meat processed by the remaining meat processing plants, you’re most likely eating feces.
Eric Schlosser in Fast Food Nation detailed how we have returned to the days of Upton Sinclair’s The Jungle.
From Schlosser’s book:
“The Reagan Administration did not oppose the disappearance of hundreds of small meatpacking firms. On the contrary, it opposed using antitrust laws to stop the giant meatpackers.” (page 158)
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“Nevertheless, the Reagan and Bush Administrations cut spending on public health measures and staffed the U.S. Department of Agriculture with officials far more interested in government deregulation than in food safety. The USDA became largely indistinguishable from the industries it was meant to police. President Reagan’s first secretary of agriculture was in the hog business. His second was the president of the American Meat Institute (formerly known as the Meat Packers Association). And his choice to run the USDA’s Food Marketing and Inspection Service was a vice president of the National Cattleman’s Association. Bush later appointed the president of the National Cattleman’s Association to the job.” (page 206)
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Just as financial deregulation has led to the meltdown and removed safeguards, the meat industry deregulation has led to concentration of meatpacking to a few companies, and removal of safeguards.
This has created a nightmare of discovering the source of contamination if there is an outbreak, as they get meat from several sources and don’t feel the need to inspect meat for contamination. Adding to that is the pressure on employees to produce faster output–where it’s almost a given that they will contaminate meat with internal organs’ excrement.
Adding to the mix are huge feedlots that not only foster the growth of O157:H7, but create huge environmental problems, as well.
Liz had a lot to do with Irak Reconstruction, or Deconstruction according to some critics. She may have liability for war crimes herself. Liz may have helped fund and give weapons to Iranian “terrorists” who have killed Americans. It is actually a greater shame that ABC and the other Village Propagandists fail to be journalists. They continue to conceal her failures in public service.
are you sayin’ CDA [coverin' daddy's ass] should be CDAAHO? [and her own]
well, the ho fits….
It’s no better in the newspapers, where talking heads from yesteryear still get play. Case in point, the NYT’s Sheryl Gay Stolberg talks to the loser Bob Shrum, still billed as a democratic consultant, about the resignations of Chris Dodd (honorable, says the failure), and Byron Dorgan (quitter, opines the 7-time loser). Stolberg spent too much time in the bubble of the Bush White House, writing about the stupid dog.
thanks for the links to Sinclair and Schlosser
always edifying”
driftglass
Oh no, or at least we need to fight another concurrent war in other difficult terrain.
Like food poisoning:
Gee, I wonder how much this single issue contributes to the cost of health care in the United States…
Ah, but accountabilty is for the little people; that’s why we have so many prisons. And who cares about boring old e.coli and sick people when terrorists are so much more exciting?
Republics are getting their fondest wish fulfilled, which is that the USA joins the ranks of third world countries. In that, they are wildly successful beyond all imagining.
Thanks for the article; it is discouraging. I’ll put in a plug here for the good documentatry “Food, Inc.” which discusses the many issues with food production in our country, also comparing the meat processing industry to Upton Sinclair. The documentary is educational, as well as sickening.
Liz Cheney… words fail me, but I agree with a prior post that I believe she is fighting for herself, as well as for her felon dad: both are war criminals, I believe. That she keeps getting air time is disgusting but predictable. I rarely watch the Sunday shows for this reason: can’t stand most of the spewing heads on the shows, and as usual, they are all heavily weighted towards the right, no matter who the POTUS is or the make-up of Congress (not that it matters, as we all here know that the differences between Repbulics & Dems is very slight, indeed).
Bah.
Scarecrow, I can only feel immense gratitude that you watched these idiots spew their nonsense so I didn’t have to.
I remember citing an IMNF Col. back then, stating that the copper disc’s for the EFP’s were of local manufacture not, Iranian…!
George just who bailed out your freemarket banks the government. Why the banks made inefficient investments.
Why is George Will still on the airwaves?
“I don’t think there’s a scintilla of racism in what Harry Reid said. At long last, Harry Reid has said something that no one can disagree with, and he gets in trouble for it.”
The panel announced for ABC’s This Week should have been a warning: “Danger: Really Stupid and Dishonest Comments Likely.”
You could pretty much say that about his show every week. In fact you could say that about George himself.
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My Bold Just once I’d like to see mini me Darth answer that question.
That shit came on and I ran for the remote, flipped on CNN and there the bitch was as well!
George Will’s appearances on Sunday morning shows are the journalistic equivalent of a pity fuck.
So what did Romer say?
LOL That’s rich.
And she deftly denied how her father was quoted about Palin….must be wonderful to be “all knowing” even if you disregard the facts…Absurd
I would have done the same but I would have gone to the SYFY Chanel!!…Fuck Liz Cheney, she spews nothing but egregious crap!!
How did Christy do? Did she get a word in edgewise? She often does. Here’s a story from a cabinet meeting last year when the rising unemployment rate came up for discussion. Someone said ‘that’s a political problem’; Christy chimed in, ‘No it isn’t. It’s a substantive problem.’ She’s pretty quick on the trigger. I would have expected her to do pretty well against the likes of Will and Cheney, if they were ever to wander onto her ground, which is economics.
yeah, notice how she didn’t say what her father DID think of Palin, just denied the disaster comment
Mini Me is a compulsive liar, like her father before her. Neither of them know their ass from a hole in the ground as evidenced by the condition of the country after her father left office.
Romer wasn’t in the Roundtable.
Here’s her interview
Great post, Scarecrow. As usual.
You could have stopped after “accountable.”
That’s a weird euphemism, and I think I understand what you’re saying. But, thanks, but no thanks. Ask your dog what s/he thinks. To fuck, or not to fuck?
Hiya, You!
ABC Goebbels.
They hit the bottom a long time ago, but just keep trying to dig.
SyFy = the old Sci-Fi network. Pronounced the same but renamed so that they could program other than pure Sci-fi type shows.
3 minutes into it & I think she stinks. Will persist for the entire 10 minutes.
Aren’t they half way to China by now…? ;-)
If I might play devil’s advocate for a moment. During the campaign I noticed that Obama did alter his dialect when addressing predominately AA audiences. It made me uncomfortable, why on earth would he consider that necessary? Harry’s remark regarding dialect was insensitive and imprudent but not entirely inaccurate.
Thanks, elliot. That’s what I missed.
Nice to know the Cheneys are on the job keeping us safe.
And one wonders why they receive no censure or questions from the White House concerning their crimes or affiliations…
But then, Hillary Clinton and Dick Cheney arrived at the Bilderburger meeting in Toronto a few years ago riding in the same limo.
Bah.
Oy now she’s defending the excise tax.
Nor built in a day, or so I have been told.
Book Salon up at the Mothership with Gordon Goldstein’s Lessons In Disaster: McGeorge Bundy and the Path To War in Vietnam hosted by Jeremi Suri
Now she’s hoping that the banks won’t pay the bonuses they’ve said they are going to pay.
Romer’s a disaster. At a minimum she needs to work on her ‘ya know’s. But she didn’t have any good talking points nor well prepared answers to obvious qs.
Sorry.
Upton Sinclair
Eric Schlosser
Liz Cheney was another of dad’s tentacles, and now she’s positioning herself for a run at political office. Gonna make Gale Norton and Elaine Chao look saintly.
I made the mistake of watching this farce. Dick Cheney’s hell spawn made George Will sound almost like the voice of reason. The discussion on Harry Reid’s comments about Obama was liberal bashing at it’s finest. Like Liz has the slightest fucking idea about liberals.
I didn’t think Christine Romer did herself any favors trying to defend the administration’s plan to tax Cadillac healthcare plans. I scared my poor cats half to death screaming expletives at the TV over the bullshit insanity spewed on this program.
Upton Sinclair’s The Jungle and John Steinbeck’s The Grapes of Wrath are two of the best books I’ve ever read and have played a major part in making me the left of liberal person I have become over the years. Thanks for the memory.
Rats. I was SO excited when I thought you were saying there was a STFU channel!!!
Slightly OT: my letter is # 181 at the above-reference Frank Rich column.
Liz will always be “Dickless Cheney” to me.
I refuse to watch ANY program with Liz “The Witch” Cheney on the panel. She is a dispicable bitch who is out making a fool of herself and everyone around her by trying to keep her evil father’s sick ass out of prison. These people are a disgrace and you have to wonder JUST WHO IS IN CHARGE of gving these traitors and evil doers a platform on national and world TV. They are doing a great service to their country, the American people and the American military. The Cheneys disgraceful, disgusting and dispicable people in every sense of the word.
This Week wasn’t worth watching after Stephanopoulos had pulled his “no rebuttle” 9/11 stunt with Rudy Guiliani.
And the fact he was going to be having Liz Cheney on the show was even more proof I needed to keep the tube off all together.
Hi ya back (((demi))) The dog thinks Liz Cheney should STFU period. What credentials does she hold besides being given a do nothing job under her Daddy’s Administration. She take that silver spoon out her ass and put it in her mouth so she STFU forevaa.
NBC leads with the big buzz story about Reid’s comment. First Lester teases, then Andrea weighs in….ooooh, boogah, boogah.
Somebody wake me when a news station, any news station, gives attention to the upcoming Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission hearing.
You had to love the smackdown that George Will layed on Liz Cheney.
Her lying-ass cackling witch voice having the audacity to pretend she was defending President Obama against a racist attack from Harry Reid? That has got to be the phoniest moment in history.
George Will turned to her and sternly said, “That’s ridiculous.”
Why I don’t watch This Weak, Farce the Nation, or Press the Meat.
On the subject of racism, I had a letter published this last week concerning the racist act that recently occurred in Plains GA.
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Chip Shirley: Obama effigy was ‘racist crime’
Regarding the Associated Press report on the hanging in effigy of President Obama in Plains, the rural South Georgia home of President Jimmy Carter (Story, “Secret Service looking into Obama effigy,” Monday), people can act as if this wasn’t a racist crime committed in Georgia, but everybody knows the truth.
If it weren’t for the history of slavery and lynching of African Americans in Georgia and the Southeastern United States, these little iconic acts of hate wouldn’t mean what they clearly do mean, which is to sanction racism, bigotry and lawlessness.
Many years ago, I found out about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy while riding the bus home from third grade at my all-white Greenville, S.C., school. I was sitting toward the rear of the bus, and heard the driver leading the kids up front in some kind of song. It took a minute to make out the words, and then they became chillingly clear. They were singing, “The n—– lover’s dead” over and over again.
It makes me sick to think there are those out there who want to sing that song again.
http://onlineathens.com/stories/010610/let_543174282.shtml
If Liz Cheney decided to run for dogcatcher (to which she’s no more suited than any other occupation) the Teabagger dominated Rethugs would demand she withdraw in favor of someone more “Conservative.”
Liz also claims Clinton a racist because per a book -The book, Game Change, by Mark Halperin and John Heilemann, asserts on page 218 – Bill Clinton 2008 on Obama: “A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee”?? I think it makes more sense to assume he was referring to the fact he was a relative nobody. Being an intern to these guys does mean getting the coffee. Plenty of white, yellow and black people do that in business world. He could have said “sweeping the floor” or any other type of similar job to get the same point across, and people would call it racist.
Also given Halperin’s record on Bush the past 5 years, I do not trust anything he writes.
Welcome back, Scarecrow!. Thanks for your comments and references to other issues.
Thanks especially for citing the Frank Rich article! And by all means see and add the Bill Moyers program this week on the same issue. I’ve been s hoping you’d do a big piece on that. Thanks be to God for Bill and his guests and for PBS for broadcasting these weekly totally relevant and riveting dialogues on issues that really matter.
One of Bill’s guests said that there had to be a major organized grass roots fight to take on the banks. I’m waiting for FDL to lead that fight. Is any one else leading the fight?
Another interesting connect the dots:
Stimulus funds aiding companies fined for pollution, accused of fraud
January 10, 2010 | Will Evans
and on an on and on for so many unconscionable contracts of stimulus money. The article was included in today’s NYT I think.
I long to see anything of the federal government that isn’t rife with corruption, stupidity, etc.
Got into an argument with the YoloBus driver today about his misrepresentation about several current financial issues, he said I sounded like teabagger. No, I explained, I’m a “flaming radical liberal” who’s so mad at the President, Administration and Congress I can’t stand it.
He said the tea baggers were not political. I asked him why he couldn’t understand that protest is a uniquely political activity?
But then I thought about Jane’s current move to bring us “flaming radical liberals” close to the conservatives where there is consensus on issues. My concern, as expressed to the bus driver, is that I don’t see a lot of evidence that tea baggers are speaking from any really valid information or analysis (which is also sometimes true of us “radiclibs”).
As for “poor George” I almost want to quote Governor Richardson, “Poor George, he just can’t help it.” Being Greekly CUTE just doesn’t hack it anymore, not that it ever did. He has always been so pathetic on the Sunday show, and he’s even more pathetic on GMA; I feel sorry for him that he needs a booster chair when seated next to the remaining STAR of the show, now that Sawyer has moved to evening news. But George is a true embar-rassment, he asks stupid a—d questions and his comments are just as absurd.
I had totally quit watching ABC news and GMA after Sawyer’s and Gibson’s and George G’s insane grossly irresponsible moves and statements during the presidential debates and the “early” health care reform shows. The couple of times I’ve tried her again, she’s been plausible and I was relieved, but I’m not impressed with any of them, even on News Hour, even though I watch it most of the time and always resent when Judy is featured.
Blessings,
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Watching the presstitutes regurgitate their vomitus propaganda is akin to peering down my garbage disposal expecting to see an actual news cast.
(Remember,they call it PROGRAMMING, for a reason.)
Be a hell of a funny moment, wouldn’t it? Liz Cheney assaulted from the right. I wonder how she’d scramble around that one?
No matter what You consider a problem be it terrorism or jobs, You might take note thet we have given our Government trillions of dollars to fix or protect us from those problem.
The fact we still have so many, none have been fixed, and we are not safe leaves the question, “What the Hell are we paying for.”
We have a Government that hasn’t worked, still doesn’t work, and probably won’t work any better tomorrow.
The mouths on these shows from the Administration, past administrations, or just the supossedly smart croud, aren’t worth listening to even without LIZ Cheney.
Romer is a complete putz, and if She is the one advising Obama on Jobs we may as well just give the hell up.
P.S. CNN had dear LIZ Cheney on flapping Her lips there also. Most of our problems are inhanced by a Media that like to promote the controversial for ratings.
Why is anyone surprised at ABC’s (and Georgie’s) ineptitude. Today’s show was a good example of why I’ve seldom watched this pundit-heavy propaganda poop fest. Booking Lizzie the liar, queen of distortion, is a new low though.