No sooner had the New York Times released an initial story that "Opposition Grows Against Second Term for Bernanke," noting opposition from Sens. Feingold and Boxer, than Sen. Harry Reid made a Friday evening announcement that he would support Bernanke.
With presumed White House urging, Reid was hoping to head off further erosion in Bernanke’s support. But it may not be enough.
One unconfirmed vote count late Friday suggested there were still up to 59 Senators undecided, with those supporting/opposing split about 25/16. That was before Reid’s announcement.
The fact that over half the Senate doesn’t know what to do about Bernanke speaks volumes. For such an important position, and with so much already known about Bernanke’s record, you’d think Bernanke’s fate would be known by now.
While Mrs. Greenspan may want to spin this as scapegoating Bernanke, and Chuck Todd may think Tuesday’s MA Senate election changed everything, I think the more important story lies in an answer Bernanke gave last December to UC Berkeley economist Brad DeLong [a strong Bernanke supporter; see update links below], who asked why the Fed wasn’t temporarily raising its inflation target to 3 percent. His answer undermined whatever basis for support he had at the time.
The question was designed to determine whether Bernanke’s Fed would be willing to tolerate more inflation in the short run as a means to stimulate economic growth and reduce unemployment. From The Economist:
Why haven’t you adopted a 3% per year inflation target?
And Mr Bernanke responded:
The public’s understanding of the Federal Reserve’s commitment to price stability helps to anchor inflation expectations and enhances the effectiveness of monetary policy, thereby contributing to stability in both prices and economic activity. Indeed, the longer-run inflation expectations of households and businesses have remained very stable over recent years. The Federal Reserve has not followed the suggestion of some that it pursue a monetary policy strategy aimed at pushing up longer-run inflation expectations. In theory, such an approach could reduce real interest rates and so stimulate spending and output. However, that theoretical argument ignores the risk that such a policy could cause the public to lose confidence in the central bank’s willingness to resist further upward shifts in inflation, and so undermine the effectiveness of monetary policy going forward. The anchoring of inflation expectations is a hard-won success that has been achieved over the course of three decades, and this stability cannot be taken for granted. Therefore, the Federal Reserve’s policy actions as well as its communications have been aimed at keeping inflation expectations firmly anchored.
I can’t imagine getting a more direct answer from the chairman than that. Mr Bernanke does not want to risk a de-anchoring of inflation expectations. He is willing to accept 10% or greater unemployment and the resulting economic and political fall-out in order to avoid that risk.
Personally, I think that Mr Bernanke owes us all a better explanation of why he has opted to place so much more emphasis on the price stability aspect of his mission than the full employment aspect. And, there should be a policy debate on this question, the resolution of which should inform the choice to reappoint (or not) Mr Bernanke.
Bernanke’s answer puzzled, disappointed, and/or shocked even those who might have supported him. Matt Yglesias, later echoed by DeLong and Paul Krugman, summed it up:
When I complain that it’s inappropriate of Bernanke to be prioritizing inflation-fighting over unemployment-fighting, people always . . . say there’s nothing more Bernanke can do. But as you can see from Bernanke’s answer, Bernanke doesn’t think there’s nothing more he can do. Bernanke thinks there’s something he could do that would probably reduce unemployment but might make it more difficult to control inflation in the future.
I think it’s a bizarre reading of the relative risks and relative benefits. But it’s one that’s in keeping with the class interests of the wealthy, and it’s hardly shocking to learn that’s what matters most to conservatives like Bernanke. I just wish we could get more attention front and center for what it is that’s happening here. Unemployment is high in large part because the policymakers with primary responsibility for achieving full employment don’t want to use the tools at their disposal to achieve that goal.
[my bold]
Until that point, the debate had been between those, like Dean Baker and others, who argued that Bernanke’s failure to see and head off the housing bubble and regulate the banks before the crisis should cost him his job . . . and those who argued that, "okay, but he did a competent job rescuing the economy from the brink once the crisis became acute, and besides, who else is there?"
As long as folks were focused on escaping the brink of disaster, the latter argument was probably enough to get Bernanke through, but as the concern faded and folks had time to learn more about how negligent a prudential regulator the Fed had been for years, the argument lost much of its credibility. If he missed the massive risk to the economy the first time, why should he be trusted again?
But Bernanke’s December statement, which followed his apparent confusion over the adequacy of the stimulus, provided a more powerful argument against a second term.
The Administration is struggling to redefine itself in populist terms; it must escape the impression/reality it has protected banks instead of the public. So the last thing they — and the country — need is a Fed Chairman that Congress and the public identify with bailing out the banks with insufficient conditions or care for the suffering on Main Street.
And when Bernanke’s answer to DeLong showed he didn’t think there was anything he should do to help the 10 percent unemployment problem, it sent a signal to Senate Democrats that he was exactly the wrong man person to help Main Street recover, no matter how competent anyone thought his Wall Street crisis management was.
More:
FDL/David Dayen, Bernanke: Yes To Social Security Cuts, No to New Jobs Bill
Yglesias, Bernanke’s Plan for Unemployment: Do Nothing
Updates:
Paul Krugman, The Bernanke Conundrum, with pro/con links to DeLong (Don’t Block Ben) and Calculated Risk (We Can Do Better)
See, FCIC Hearings, Sheila Bair testimony
Mother Jones/Joseph Stiglitz, Moral Bankruptcy
Base Line Scenario/Simon Johnson, Questions Bernanke Must Answer
HuffPo/Sam Stein, How Bernanke Became a Toxic Asset
FDL/Jane Hamsher, Will Reid and Dodd Ignore Hold (Petition for Fed audit)
Dean Baker, Bernanke’s approval is clearly on the ropes
Baseline Scenario/Simon Johnson, Paul Krugman for the Fed
Brad DeLong, Responds to Krugman, and see other links to various views on his site.



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A little unemployment is just what Bernanke needs.
Here’s Bernanke’s problem:
Interest on the national debt.
I know no one here wants to talk about the deficit. Keynes all the way.
But with yearly deficits running in excess of $1 trillion, the debt is compounding at an alarming rate, and the cost of maintaining the debt is quickly becoming intolerable.
Sure, create more jobs. Stimulate the economy. Great but hollow words. Our economy is fucked.
I loath Bernanke. If it were up to me, he’d be in jail along with a bunch of other fucks.
But he’s doing the only thing he can.
What would the deficit be if they tried to balance the budget?
eCAHN,
Here’s my point.
We’ve got a faltering economy, and we’re running up the national debt.
We’re doing that because we’re shoveling trillions of dollars to the banks and the defense industry.
As an economist, please tell me how this makes sense, and how printing a bunch of money to throw at a moribund economy makes sense.
Bad stim and stopping bad stim are not the only 2 choices.
Oh wait. They probably are. (Like the choice of bad HCR or stopping it). In which case, bad stim is better than no stim at all (what they sometimes say about breath).
Bad stim better? You’d really have to define targets of stim, to make that point. More than half of Obama’s stim was made up of inefficient pork. That kind of stim is BS.
Which half?
I had a website with the stats on that but can’t find it now. It blew my mind. I remember one item, because it was soooo bloody stupid. Over 13 grand to replace A DOOR on a building!! Then there was the millions to be spent on the Department of Homeland Gestapo building, which in my mind, that entire department should be closed down as unnecessary
I understand why government contracts cost so much. (You have to have worked with lowest-bidder stuff. Trust me on this.)
The bidders on a project lowball their bids, in order to win, probably to the point where they’re at best breaking even.
They want to make money, they can’t change the bid, so they use cheaper materials and products than they contracted for.
Government’s response is to specify more precisely what the contract is for. That means more detail in the contract, which makes it longer, and it means that the bidding process is more involved and the contract costs more, because everything has to be checked and verified to make sure we’re getting what we’re paying for.
Have you looked at the link? Contracts or no contracts, I’d wager a pile of the spending is on pure unadulterated crap. Heck the military can’t even buy an ordinary stepladder for less than 10 grand! There is this illusion that if it’s a government contract, money is no object, because it’s the tax dollars at work. In 2002, they earmarked 50 grand for Rep. Lois Capps (D. Calif) for…ready for this?…a tattoo removal program!!!
I knew I had it bookmarked on my puter. Here you go!
http://www.scribd.com/doc/14331333/Pig-Book-Earmarks-Rise-April-13-2009
Word of warning. Some of the spending will increase your blood pressure.
I tried to answer this in response to a comment you made on my Bernanke post.
Wow Art. I actually agree with you, if that means anything.
How would reducing the deficit in the farther future improve the economy in the near future?
The stimulus package was too small to get employment up, which would be the best thing for the economy; more jobs means more money coming in through taxes, which means the deficit would go down to the extent that the idjits in Congress are willing to not spend more money on pork-barrel projects and on weapons that we wouldn’t need even if they worked (good luck with that).
Its not that “no one here” has anything to think about the deficit. its that no fair and credible policies come from those conversations. “deficit” reduction is an MSM and political buzz phrase used when a politician or block of politicians want to threaten some rivals pet defense spending program, or gut spending on education, health and welfare (health and welfare have become buzz words for anything not in the defense budget). Idiots in the MSM pick up on it to help out those bloodsucking parasites, and “main street” starts talking about the US economy, as if they understand it to be like their own monthly checkbook balancing.Also i havent heard a single “deficet reduction” scheme from washington politicians that isnt also anchored to a retarded tax cutting scheme.
When Republicans were in power, deficits famously didn’t matter anymore. Now that they are out of the White House, it is all they can talk about.
Bernanke is most certainly not doing the only thing he can. He admits as much himself.
Your concerns about interest on the debt are founded in some weird misunderstanding. Inflation makes paying previous debt easier and cheaper because the dollars that are used to pay back the fixed rate securities which are the debt are worth less and there are more of them.
Put it this way…
If you hold a CD at 3 percent and inflation rises to 10 percent, is that trouble for the bank? No. It’s trouble for you. Now it is true that as inflation rises, new CD’s will carry a higher rate (as would government securities), but you’re still paying them back in cheaper dollars and in times of higher rates, the maturities that are offered become restricted (read “shorter”) so that the bank (read “government”) is not locked into paying those rates for many years once inflation recedes.
The Fed has more than one job. Managing inflation is only one part of what they are supposed to do. The other part? Keep people employed.
There is no benefit to worrying about potential future inflation when we are staggering around trying to stay out of ruinous deflation in a time of high double-digit unemployment and underemployment.
Inflation is a bridge we can cross when we get to it. But first, we have to figure a way out of the abyss we are presently in.
From Sen. Russ Feingold’s office:
Statement of U.S. Senator Russ Feingold in Opposition to Another Term for Ben Bernanke as Chairman of the Federal Reserve
Friday, January 22, 2010
“A chief responsibility of the Chairman of the Federal Reserve is to ensure a sound financial system. Under the watch of Ben Bernanke, the Federal Reserve permitted grossly irresponsible financial activities that led to the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. Under Chairman Bernanke’s watch predatory mortgage lending flourished, and ‘too big to fail’ financial giants were permitted to engage in activities that put our nation’s economy at risk. And as it responds to the crisis it helped to usher in, the Federal Reserve under Chairman Bernanke’s leadership continues to resist appropriate efforts to review that response, how taxpayers’ money was being used, and whether it acted appropriately. When the full Senate considers his nomination, I will vote against another term for Chairman Bernanke.”
In 1999, Feingold voted against repealing the Depression-era safeguards put in place to protect businesses, investors, and consumers. In 2008, Feingold voted against the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) and in 2009 voted against authorizing more funding for TARP.
http://feingold.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=321669
Thanks so much for this strongly clarifying perspective on the Bernanke issue. Had to laugh at Trapper’s assertion that some folks are saying Obama might sacrifice Geithner to save Bernanke. I want them and Summers and Rahm out NOW.
I hope that Stieglitz will replace either G or B or S. I do not forgive Obama for keeping him out of a very major policy role from the beginning; that was the first indicate that he was not going to be my president. Very much looking forward to the Sunday book forum.
Blessings,
Worrying about inflationary expectations during a major recession which shows no signs of easing anytime soon is what one might expect of a Central Bank Chief appointed by a conservative Republican administation, but not a Democratic one. Bernanke should not be reappointed.
As far as Art45′s argument goes, even if increased inflationary expectations contributed toward higher nominal interest rates (and I don’t see expected inflation even coming close to 3% anytime soon), the rate of economic growth is going to have a bigger effect on the deficit. The best way of contributing toward cutting the deficit on the part of the Fed would be to raise it’s inflation target and increase the rate of growth of M2. It’s not a good idea to move toward a balanced budget during a recession. It’s like shooting yourself in the head to get rid of a headache.
Thanks for your response, but I don’t believe you address the issue I identify: the interest cost of carrying an enormous and enormously growing national debt in a climate where the prospects for GDP growth appear to be shitty for at least 10 years.
We are no longer a nation of sufficient wealth creation. Printing money and throwing it at the economy just isn’t going to help. This is not 1937.
Interest is only a problem for the government insofar as it absorbs resources that could be used for other purposes. Actually, the classic “nasty” way out of an intolerable public debt burden is repudiation through inflation. A nicer way of easing the interest burden of high debt is to increase income.
Bernanke’s statement makes it clear that the Fed is more worried about price stability IN THE MIDST OF A MAJOR RECESSION than it is with icreasing output and decreasing unemployment. That’s problematic for some people (like myself) to say the least. Particularly in light of the fact that the one industry which tends to have the most relentless anti-flation bias is the financial sector.
Whether higher inflation or higher unemployment is worse is a political question, not an economic one. Politically, Liberal Dems have tended to have an anti-unemployment bias. If Obama is a Liberal Democrat, he should appoint a Fed Chair like Joseph Stiglitz who is more likely than Bernanke to share that view.
If there isn’t enough money to pay the interest on the debt, print more money, man.
I love that Andrea Mitchell goes out of her way to deny she has a relationship to the Fed… she is married to Alan Greenspan and the tarnish on the Fed and a down-vote on Bernanke would be further tarnish on her hubby. Doesn’t anyone in DC have any ethics on recusal or disclosure?
Mitchell did “disclose,” in typical Beltway fashion, by saying everyone “knows that I have a history, from the past days” — everyone on the set, that is, but probably not most of her viewers. At least the disclosure thought occurred to her, which is more than we usually get.
And Chuck Todd says “the Senate needs a head, right now, for some reason . . .” as though he hasn’t a clue why anyone would be upset with the people in charge of the economy for the last several years.
My health insurance premium went up 20% this year. My rent went up 10%. Cable and phone hiked. I get sticker shock each successive week at the grocery store. A credit card company sent me a letter listing of all the fees they’ve been required to reduce by law, while informing me my interest rate has been almost doubled. On the plus side, I bought a dvd of Platoon at Target last week for $5 (Heathers, alas was sold out).
Speaking of interest rates, my savings accounts, 401K, money markets are earning practically nothing. That’s what they are talking about when they warn of the dangers of inflation. Depressing the income and wages of working people is their goal; it’s not an unfortunate consequence of their brilliant policies.
Tough times; the only thing in your list that surprises me is the rent increase. Rates have been falling in some areas, but apparently not where you live. Take care.
Sorry to hear that, but I got a chuckle over the lack of a cheap copy of “Heathers” to buy… may you find one soon to cheer you up.
On a more serious note: Bernanke needs to go. I’m not enough versed in economics to comment intelligently about how to this handle this crisis, but having a conservative-oriented Fed Head has not been a good idea. Others here are more knowledgeable than me about logical alternative candidates, so I defer on making suggestions.
Would love to see a huge shake up in the ObamaRahma admin, and after Summers & Geithner, let’s get rid of Bernanke.
Not surprised to hear that spineless Harry Reid is supporting Bernanke, though. What else is new. Hope the good folks in NV are working on some good primary candidates to oppose Reid; he needs to go, too. Another corporatist Dem… don’t get me started.
No, please get started and continue.
article at HuffPost today about who might replace Bernanke, I was pleased to see that Stieglitz is one of the top few possibilities. That warmed my heart.
Blessings,
and he’ll be here for Book Salon tomorrow
Here’s another “there-is-no-social-contract!” politician. This politi-critter compares constituents to stray animals:
“My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals. You know why? Because they breed,” Bauer said, according to the Greenville News. “You’re facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply. They will reproduce, especially ones that don’t think too much further than that. And so what you’ve got to do is you’ve got to curtail that type of behavior. They don’t know any better.”
- Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer, South Carolina Gubanatoral Candidate (link: http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11869649)
Here’s the link to the video of him saying it: http://www.wistv.com/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?ClipID1=4483729&h1=RAW%3A%20Bauer%20defends%20comparing%20poor%20people%20to%20stray%20animals&vt1=v&at1=News&d1=479567&LaunchPageAdTag=Political&activePane=info&rnd=35742518)
Think we can “incentivize” him?
Just a driveby. Discussion of 2010 forecast for U.S. economy here. Comments still seem to be open.
I think it is more likely that he would go with Kohn or if he wanted really to stick it to us, Rubin. Yellen at the SF is another possibility. The idea here is that he is likely to keep it in house. None of these choices appeal to me.
Personally, I would prefer to see either Bill Black or Robert Johnson in the post. We need less of a monetarist and more of a realist and reformer in the post.
Stiglitz’s Testimony in front of the House Committee on Financial Services
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/23031160/Stiglitz-Testimony
Brooksley Born?
John Taylor’s (Stanford) name has also been bouncing around here and there and at zerohedge.
Some one on CNBC (Kudlow maybe?) said the name of a John Taylor for Fed Res last week.
there are ads popping up in the middle of the articles tonight on fdl. i can’t see a way to turn them off. and they’re in the way of reading the article. anyone know how to close them or how to not open them?
Cynthia Kouril is upstairs!
USAG Holder’s “Never Mind” on KSM Trial: What Was Sen. Graham Thinking?
Rahm is already working behind the scenes to get Bernancke’s confirmation approved. The dems strategy will be bau but the president will be in campaign mode railing about change and the fat cat bankers. They really think we are that stupid. We might as well accept it guys this group of democrats are in too deep with the corporations and wall street to bring us real change. The dems are going to continue what they are doing and they will lose badly in November. After this happens Obama may be forced to let Rahm go in order to save his own skin. The bright side of dems losing in 2010 and 2012 is that we can send some new blood to DC.
It would be a great loss to remove Bernanke. Regardless of his role prior to the crash he was able to navigate a solution which, so far, has worked. If Bernanke becomes annoyed and decides not to pursue another term it would do great damage to the United States.
In difficult economic times there are no guaranteed solutions – the perception of competence is everything and Bernanke has that.
The reality of competence would be more useful. The emperor had the perception of new clothes. Not much help there either.
I think you’re my new favorite FDLer for that line alone.
Well said, brother.
Think of the horror. Mortgages being paid back with inflation going on. I guess banks don’t like don’t like deflated principle and interest values. Inflation sucks for them.
Deflated home values? Not so much.
I would have liked to have seen light rail projects for the urban sprawl fiasco of American cities planners. High speed rail projects would have been ‘kuehl’, as well.
Why the fuck is the so-called leader of the Democratic Party in the goddamned fucking US Senate bending over for a goddamn, godforsaken Bush appointee?
In the spirit of the Congressional Record’s revise and extend remarks and in the spirit of bipartisanship, if someone thought my previous post was too intemperate I would like to revise it to:
Why the goddamn fuck in goddamn fucking hell is the so-called leader of the Democratic Party in the goddamned fucking US Senate bending over for a goddamn, godforsaken Bush appointee for no goddamned apparent goddamn fucking reason in goddamned hell?
emptywheel is upstairs!
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Bernanke’s fumbling on unemployment and repeated insistence on beating the spending drum [not even his bailiwick] during this recession had me balancing on the edge, but this appointment to the top oversight position of an economist with much more ideological than supervisory experience in his resume got me leaping with an exultant shout over the edge.
In the current climate, in which one of the Fed’s main tasks has to be re-establishing supervisory credibility, making the Parkinson appointment simultaneously with statements of anodyne verbiage proclaiming the importance of the regulatory function of the Federal Reserve and calling for audits of past controversies borders on perfidy. Insulting perfidy at that.
We now know that Obama and his whole economic team will remain; the man’s public pronouncements must be viewed with extreme prejudice from after Coakley’s defeat, and especially following the appointment of Dr. Parkinson onward. We can only attempt to divine his intent from his actions. Geithner and Rahm are calling the Senators on behalf of Bernanke. Bernanke is an ideological anti regulator which spells catastrophe for the American economy.
It’s just more of the appearance of action where they think they need to look like they’re doing something, and holding fast on where it REALLY matters to them.
I doubt Obama will withdraw support for Bernanke, and Democrats will probably reconfirm him after being steamrollered by Rahm et al.
The Democrats are intent on losing come election day, but it’s fine for them because they’ll all have jobs with their donors once they’re out of office. They’ve got no reason to care about anything else.
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I see what has happened with Dorgan and I think that is what is happening with Bernanke. At first I used the term Useful Idiots, but I think Stepford Wives might better describe what’s happening. Non-corporatist Congresspeople take the right stand until they are visited by Rahm from the Stepford Men’s Association and after the visit they just aren’t the same and just obediently do what Rahm tells them to. The Corporatists and the Stepford Wives of Congress need to get out of DC! Signs of a Congressperson being Stepforded are if they say something to the effect of “don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good” when they are backing off a something they had previously committed to.
“But it’s one that’s in keeping with the class interests of the wealthy”
If one actually believes this piece of BS it is because they have never experienced inflation as a poor or middle class citizen
The rich are much more likely to be able to survive bouts of high inflation that the poor or middle class. The wealthy receive most of their income from business activities and investments both of which adjust to high inflation much more quickly than do the wages of the poor and middle class to say nothing of the relatively fixed incomes of the elderly.
Bernanke is not defending the interests of the wealthy he is protecting the interests of us all and, while painful, it is the correct decision. This country has, under populist pressure, taken the easy way out for far too long and it is catching up with us.
Anybody remember the stagflation that killed off Carter? How do you think 18% mortgage money will effect the already crappy housing market?
THANK GOD that all those out-of-work Americans with no income won’t have to face all those increased prices from inflation…
you think unemployment benefits will keep up once inflation gets going?
Inflation is ultimately a job killer. Sound money does matter over time.
New York Fed documents reveal more detail about AIG bailout
Source: Brady Dennis, The Washington Post=============1/24/10
On the frenzied day in September 2008 when the federal government bailed out insurance giant American International Group, Timothy F. Geithner logged dozens of calls with top Wall Street executives, Washington regulators, political leaders and even investor Warren Buffett.
At the time, the Treasury secretary was head of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, which played a lead role in organizing AIG’s rescue. His call logs, obtained by The Washington Post, are among 250,000 pages of documents the New York Fed recently turned over in response to a subpoena from the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
Records show that Geithner participated in nearly 70 calls between 7:45 a.m. and 10 p.m. on Tuesday, Sept. 16,le as officials worked to stabilize AIG — first through private loans and finally through public assistance. They feared the company’s collapse might trigger other failures and endanger the financial system.
Geithner spoke most often to Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke and then-Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr., as well as with AIG chief executive Robert Willumstad. He also shared numerous calls with top financial executives, including Lloyd Blankfein of Goldman Sachs, Jamie Dimon of J.P. Morgan Chase and Vikram Pandit of Citigroup.
Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
the plutocrats in America ascribe to a modern feudalism, keeping the rubes desperately scrapping to get by and fighting among themselves for scarce jobs. This keeps them from realizing that the plutocrats are stealing them blind.
Bernake is the enemy of the people. He represents the plutocrats’ interests and is very willing to keep the average American struggling in order to serve his masters.