Speaker Pelosi used her closing comment at today’s Health Care Reform Summit to remind the President that he once claimed to support the public option.
She then calls out Reps. Boehner and Camp on their misstatments.
Speaker Pelosi:
Mr. President, I harken back to that meeting a year ago. At that time, Senator Grassley questioned you about the public option.
And you said the public option is one way to keep the insurance companies honest and to increase competition. If you have a better way, put it on the table.
Well, I bring that up because we have come such a long way….As a representative of the House of Representatives, I want you to know that we were there that day in support of a public option which would save $120 billion, keep the insurance companies honest, and increase competition.
She closes with this:
Yes, it’s hard to do this. The misrepresentation campaign that has gone on about these bills, it’s a wonder anybody would support them, as Mr. Waxman said. But the fact is, as the President said, many of these provisions on their own are largely supported by the American people.
So this will take courage to do. Social Security was hard. Medicare was hard. Health care for all Americans, insurance reform is hard. But we will get it done.
And as we leave this debate, I think that many of the differences that we have are complicated, and they’re legitimate. They’re differences of opinion about the role of government and the rest. But I think it’s really clear on one point that the American people understand very clearly: They understand that there should be an end to discrimination on the basis of pre-existing conditions.
The proposals that we have put forth end discrimination on the basis of pre-existing conditions. The Republican bill does not.



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thanks Scarecrow
That’s the Pelosi we know and love. But tell me again then, why did she take impeachment off the table?
THAT’S MY CONGRESSWOMAN. RIGHT THERE.
Couldn’t be prouder of her today.
And that’s my leader of the Reps! I love her to pieces! Good on you, Nancy, for bringing up public option.
Yeah I know! Strange isn’t it??… We have been railing against her leadership for what seems like years.. WTF happened?? and no I wonj’t conjecture.. I leave that to all your fertile minds..
Nancy did a wonderful job in closing. Gal’s got guts!
I was really happy with Obama today too, but it pissed me off when he called out Waxman for politicing. I didn’t see Waxman doing other than state the obvious.
Death threats is my guess. Credible death threats.
It’s easy to blather on about stuff that doesn’t have a chnance in hell of passing. Color me unimpressed, Pelosi.
If the rest of the democrats had the cajones that Speaker Pelosi has then maybe just maybe some things would get done in Congress. My goodness, I watched this woman close in her final remarks and she let Repubs Boehner, Camp and President Obama know that the American people are not dumb, just misinformed.
Good! I think that was also a warning:
“I, Speaker of the House, am not interested in passing the Senate Bill. You want a bill Mr. President?, Mr. Reid? Pass mine.”
This is probably Nancy’s attempt, like Bush, to somehow frame the comments in Wikipedia, and the world about herself. Because she knows she is probably on the way out…
To come this far in your reputation as a fearless liberal, then to be labeled as a torture-approver/denier, a ***** to the other party, a failure to an approval rating of 20% (being generous). Sorry to say… what might have started out as a do-gooder turned into a tool for big business and endless war.
The Dems are over, Nancy, and you helped do it.
Mod note: Edited and released by mod.
Words are cheap in DC. In fact, in DC words are mostly lies. Including Pelosi.
How nice of Pelosi to stand up and make a lot of noise now that it is a forgone conclusion that the “best” the people will get is the Senate (ie, corporate and plutocratic) bill.
Maybe she was infected by Anthony Weiner’s caustic yet realistic comments on the house floor.
THANK YOU NANCY !
She has consistently defended Public option and said she does not have votes in house without public option.
Nancy for president.
Yes.
MODS Plusee… edit this crap..
Long ‘ol time, spurious!
Pelosi’s grandstanding for the cameras. Political equivalent of “big hat, no cattle”. Knows that the Senate/WH version has no chance to pass the House and is sending a message: “Don’t try to hang that fracking albatross around my neck.”
What I learned today: Obama is bending over backwards to listen to Republicans and is totally deaf to the leadership in his own party and to the people who elected him.
SInce I missed the meeting on air because I would have rather volunteered to wash my local sewage plant with a toothbrush than watch Dems beg GOPers for cover…. I am left wondering if Obama replied to Nancy at all?
Strongly agree.
My guess. She didn’t have the votes among the Democratic caucus in the House, and it would have been more of a symbolic gesture given the fact that you wouldn’t have 2/3 votes in the Senate to convict.
I would have preferred that she at least open hearings on impeachment. The investigation and then the impeachment hearings are what snowballed during the Nixon impeachment process; Nixon just got out of town before the sheriff could get there. The Clinton impeachment was ramrodded by a unified Republican House majority working hand-in-glove with Ken Starr and the corporate media.
Still around, but mostly lurk
The House bill has a Public Option. She walked the walk.
Strong — really strong — pushback from the WH.
No. It was near the end and he followed with his wrap up for the day — no specific response to Pelosi. He had mentioned the PO earlier in the day. See Open Left:
http://openleft.com/diary/17574/breaking-pelosi-makes-strong-case-for-house-public-option-going-forward-we-must-act
At this point the PO is dead, so just empty words, at best.
Nancy Pelosi reminds us that the Public Option (PO) is not dead. As it is now clear that the Republicans will not support the Democratic bill and the PO fell in favor of wooing Republicans with the exchanages idea, it is now time to reinsert the PO into any final bill. Every poll in which Americans were asked about having a public option, the majority favored it. Now let’s make sure those in the Senate sign onto the Bennett letter requesting a robust public option for ALL.
He seems more interested in accommodating the Republicans to usher in his fantasy world of bipartisanship. Interesting to hear NPR’s coverage of the “summit” on the drive home. They basically interviewed DeCamp and had primarily Republican soundbites from the days show. The framing and memes were all tilted to the Republicans.
What’s your cut on what happens from here on out?
Thanks… and thanks so much for watching and reporting so I didn’t have too.
We all need a break sometimes…)
Your are oh so right Cal George.
Then you missed the Kabuki. Because that is not what ordinary folks who tuned in for even a little while saw. They saw grandstanding Republicans and Obama pushing over and over for what the technical and philosophical issues were that divided them. And they saw Republicans unwilling to give an inch.
And then Obama nailed it by saying that maybe the Republicans cannot politically move toward a bipartisan solution because it would hurt them with the GOP base. (That was in his closing statement.)
I think the public is willing to allow reconciliation now without punishing the Democrats for it. Republicans made the case for why reconciliation is necessary. And see in David Waldman’s piece on dKos how it can happen in front of the cameras (should Reid go that route) in a session on the floor of the Senate. They can offer to pass it through normal order and ask for unanimous consent; if there is no objection it goes to an up-or-down 51 vote majority vote. If there is objection, they can bring it as a budget reconciliation and force an up-or-down vote.
I think the public is willing to allow reconciliation now without punishing the Democrats for it.
The polls say the opposite, no?
I am sure the PO is dead; the President decreed it.
But the corpse is going to belong to Harry.
Look at Harry’s body language while Nancy was speaking.
If the PO is dead it’s because Obama let it die in the crib. If there is no PO he is not deserving of the title “President” and will hence be referred to as Mr. Bipartisan.
Mr. NOPO
Pelosi passed the public option in the house.
It’s the senate and WH that don’t want the po.
Bela Lugosi
It is time we all demanded a Senate vote on the public option! Talk is cheap. Who is really with us?
I acknowledge the President decreed it’s death. Boo on him.
My point is about how this is playing.
When you’re sitting in a room with a bunch of people at a table, negotiating, or staking out territory, you give signals about agreeing with your partners. You nod in agreement, but mostly you acknowledge their point by LOOKING AT THEM WHEN THEY’RE MAKING A POINT ON YOUR SIDE!
Harry never looks at her, nor assents in any manner.
All the opposition does indeed look and pay attention to her.
The republicans are figuring out what else they can get of Harry right now. I’m sure of it.
I think you are right about people willing to go for reconciliation, but only if it has the public option.
Congresswoman Pelosi explained why a public option is a good idea. If the Democrats in the Senate are not willing to support a public option, then I want an up or down vote to find out who, so that they can be voted out of office for not representing this nation or their party. Otherwise, I and others will just go by those who signed the Bennet letter, and that means a whole lot of Democratic Senators are in trouble, not just the usual suspects plus Jello Jay.
The politicians can dance around all day long, but when it comes time to vote, let them not wonder what happened. The people elected President Obama for a reason, and the public option was one of those reasons. Politicians, do your jobs. Public option or your fired.
The republicans are figuring out what else they can get of Harry right now.
We’d settle for a pulse.
it was a weak PO. The difference between saving $125 billion and $25 billion. Not many people would have been eligible. Better than nothing, but not much.
I found it interesting how Obama could not even look at her when she was telling him what for…
Exactly
Agree but grandstanding is “to play or act so as to impress onlookers.” That’s different than sending a message.
Which do you think it was?
I think it’s clear Pelosi is far to Obama’s left (which isn’t hard to be, with Obama wanting the reactionary Republican Judd Gregg as his Commerce Secretary at one point). I think it’s also clear she doesn’t think much of Obama’s leadership skills.
I’m wondering if she might not be positioning herself for a challenge to Obama in 2012 if he continues to fail. She would be a much better (and tougher) president than Barack the Ball less.
Astute
Political cover. At this point no Dem wants to wear this loss. It’s on you Obama and Reid.
I wonder if perhaps Hillary will run again? She’s younger than Pelosi, and if she ran her campaign right this time, she might have a shot. Of course, we’d be exchanging one centrist corporate-owned Dem for another. Pelosi doesn’t impress me, but I will defer to FDLers who are her constituents.
I think you are right about people willing to go for reconciliation, but only if it has the public option.
That would be a great poll question.
After today’s summit
I’m all for it — as long as a strong PO is included.
I think most folks outside the Beltway think so, but I think the Democrats who will have to shaft their campaign contributors are still a little skittish. What would BCBS of ND say to Kent Conrad if he voted for a public option through reconciliation?
Strategically, I think the effort is to get an up-or-down vote on the floor with the TV cameras on on the public option so that the public knows who has been for it and who has been against it. Getting that up-or-down vote might require it to be in reconciliation unless the GOP thinks they can embarrass the Democrats by allowing in in regular order. And it will be a roll-call vote.
Well as EW has repeatedly pointed out, there remains no evidence that she was informed of the torture until the media firestorm broke. Even the recent OLC docs merely state that many Congressional officials were informed of “the interrogation policies” implemented at that time. Since the torture of Zubaydeh and others preceded approval, and in other cases there were no “acts” until after she was briefed under the new policy. She was unlikely to have heard of events of torture. It would be interesting if they timed briefings to precede policy revisions and acts.
Impeachment for What???
Neither did I. Obama was a little too testy.
Conspiracy theories and assignment of ulteria motives. Is it possible that she simply disagrees with him not supporting the public option without wanting is job?
no kidding. what excuses and bullshit will we get … tomorrow? Saturday? Right NOW, IF these sell out bastards pass something GOOD, then I’ll stop tallying up money and time for primary opponents.
I still will NOT do 1 thing for them, unless they do more than 1 GOOD thing.
rmm.
Don’t get it why some of you are heeping scorn on members in the House, the only body that passed the public option, while silent and those stopping it like Rockerfellow. Weiner and Pelosi have been brave but at the end of the day the fuckup is in the SENATE. PROGRESSIVE in the House are at least keeping the debate alive!!!!
Impeachment of Shrub.
I mean Bush, not Obama silly.
What she SHOULD have pointed out, no quoted, was his absolute promise while campaigning to PASS a public option! It’s on video, and no one ever throws it in his face! It’s one of the reasons he beat Hilary! Why is it wrong to call him on it?
ok, confused you with some of the posters that have come unhinged lately. My bad.
I think she did it very well and in public infront of the camera. Also remember when she got annoyed at a reporter and said there was a lot Obama was for before he wasn’t? I am sure she makes it quite clear to him in private how she felt – given the forum what she did today was impressive. She called out her own president – in public. We have to respect that.
we don’t need a public option — we need for for people to get off their lazy butts and get a real job — with benefits !!
I noticed the eye contact thing also. Reid was kind of hard to call for me – he seemed almost equally nonreactive no matter what was said. Asset or liability, I think that’s his “game face”. IMO, Reid is pissed at the White House – really pissed.
Obama was the one I found striking. Pelosi is addressing him almost directly, and it appears he wouldn’t even look at her after she said the words “Public Option”. Along those lines, Biden seemed to be attentive the whole time. When it is finally told, bet the backstory on this administration is going to be far from “No drama.”
All and all, from the parts I watched, I found Obama to be surprisingly emotionally reactive. I hope he doesn’t do too many more of these. They could really go south on him.
I thought Hillary was also for a public option – or something quite similar. I think the thing that swung the independent (maybe even first-time voters?) who participated in the democratic primary was his promise to fight against mandates. That was literally the clincher for me why I preferred his policy.
I don’t even think he whimpered on that one time since the election.
But yeah, no mandates, public option – competing on a national exchange – and eliminate preexisting conditions. That was the plan I elected Obama on. And I wasn’t alone. He’s nuts if he has bought into a narrative that Americans weren’t really paying attention and didn’t know what we were voting for. And for the record, McCain’s plan was to make it illegal to sue medical practitioners and for us all to go to the friggin emergency room. (It’s not that we don’t remember how lame the GOP is … I’m just pretty sure folks’ll throw dems out of office anyway if they keep proving to be sell-out wusses.)
So I read a quick commentary by Dean (in Huff Post) that he supports the current bill offered by Obama even if it is a close variant of the Senate bill. Why is Dean selling out? Oh, yeah he throws in his objections to the mandate and the women’s issues after the fact. But basically, sounds like Bob Kuttner saying, go ahead and pass it.. I am disgusted with Dean and Kuttner.
Pelosi gets credit for breaking the near universal media and Democratic taboo that NO ONE mention the public option!
I tried to listen a few minutes today but the kabuki hypocrisy was too much. Caught a snippet about Fed or states ‘pooling’ for high cost participants- read vulnerable, sick and poor– but it was too disgusting listening to Obama and the media ignore the one solution that would solve all of that– Medicare for all.
The hypocrisy is deafening, but I come to FDL for the great posts up and down the page-we are so tired of the lies. Greenwald has it right, its just a farce- cynical in the extreme Mr. President.
Madam Speaker does bring to mind the fact that while the average American feels that we’ve had a ‘do nothing’ Congress the last year, that’s only true of the Senate. The House has been busy as bees. Witness 290 bills it has passed that now languish on the steps of the Senate.
Obama to the American public:
“I welcome your hate”
just sent Scarecrow an article from HuffPost or BuzzFlash (?) today that explains the real reason why there is no PO in the White House offers – it was part of the deal with the private hospitals and the issue was paying Medicare level reimbursement as opposed to “actual” costs, etc. The article noted that there had been only two articles in MSM (?)about this deal over the months. One more reason to make me sick and angry against BO for his big time sell outs from the beginning.
So saddened by the process and outcomes of the broadcast. Charlie Rose forum conversation and analysis tonight best I’ve seen on the day’s event.
Want to say hooray for Nancy Pelosi. So sick of Carly’s daily email to me and gmail has yet to honor my appeals that her messages be blocked as I don’t want them.
I wish I could believe this to be the case. But with Obama evidently intentionally working behind the scenes from the get-go with Reid and Baucus against Pelosi and the House, I don’t think there’s any evidence that Pelosi has enough respect for her own branch of government, never mind the House on its own, to resist that two-on-one Party pressure from the combined leadership of the Senate and Executive Branch [not that she seemed to resist such pressure when the President was of the other Party either].
As far as I’m concerned, this is the most important point about the words spoken by Pelosi that Scarecrow highlights in this post. [Although Obama is not "Pelosi's" nor her Party's president; he's the nation's president, and failing in his presidential duties even as he tries to tell Congress how to do its job, with their pathetic acquiescence.]
The import of Pelosi’s words cannot be overestimated if actually backed up by further public and private action. Unfortunately, given the apparently one-way flow of private pressure to act on health reform legislation, and the severely-restricted action “permitted” to be a part of such legislation, from the Executive Branch to Congress, I very much doubt that Pelosi’s words will translate into meaningful legislative deeds, however much the public (as opposed to the Party’s campaign donors) wants them to be. This was Pelosi spinning for the House and slapping back a little after all of the backroom backstabbing to which she and the House have been subjected by Obama/Emanuel/Reid/Baucus over the last many months (without any public complaints from her). But, if past is prologue, it will probably all end there. Nevertheless, I agree that it is important to publicly support Pelosi for at least pretending to assert the independence of the House from the President, and a new President of the same Party at that.
Meanwhile, if the Party Games are over, can we have our Congress back now?
A Congress, please note, that’s designed to conduct its business in public, whose formal committees made up of our representatives are inherently “bipartisan” despite the rigid Party divide in Congress, but whose final balance of power on every measure up for a vote in committee or on the floor is held by members of the Democratic Party as a direct result of the majorities that the American people voted into Congress in 2008.
So, again, if the Party Games staged by the Executive Branch are over, can we have our Legislative Branch back now, with its public accountability for actual votes taken on any and all legislative proposals that its elected members choose to offer for the consideration of their colleagues, whatever their Party affiliation or lack thereof?
Soooooo much predictability from the Bitterness Brigade…..Surely few here actually WATCHED any of today’s “made for c-span” event. As usual, the FDL bloggers go out of their way to highlight the secondary or tertiary take-away from today’s preceedings. The REAL headline? The President is political prodigy. I’ll grant that he’s not at fully-developed-phenom-level –yet. He could have (and probably SHOULD have) handled the gop by himself. For all of the “spineless” charges leveled here, against the POTUS; there’s no doubt who’s driving HCR. It’s BHO. I’m sure that’s a bitter pill to chew around here…BUT….we ‘chew bitter’ pretty well, now don’t we?
There seems to be an inherent contradiction in Obama’s approach to HCR which is made most evident in his attempt to placate Rs and the health care lobbies which are altogether opposed to reform.
Obama as he states over again is wedded to a free market approach to HCR wherein the uninsured can opt for one of several private insurance plans within a nationwide exchange. And further every uninsured person must choose some plan. That is as far as he will go.
However if all choices in the exchange are among private insurance plans which are free to charge whatever fees they want then in essence what he is proposing is essentially to keep the same current private for profit insurance system in place. The same current system which has been seen to fail with the only difference being that now the public is mandated to divert a greater amount of profit to private insurers.
(Notice that nowhere is there ever mention of how much greater the profits to private insurers will be from this transfer of public wealth.)
According to this exchange scheme there is no room for a not-for-profit public insurance choice. A choice which like Medicare has been seen to work much more efficently and at lower cost. Having imposed these parameters that is why Obama sees no need to include any mention of a public plan choice. More foolishly he believes that his proposed exchange scheme ought to be acceptable to the Rs and the health lobby.
Such a minimalist approach to reform is not likely to achieve any meaningful results and leaves the financing of health care in the hands of private insurers. But this approach is the result of Obama’s faith in the free market as pertains to the financing of health care.
That is why his plan must be rejected and a not-for-profit plan must be included.
So, yellow is the color of the unimpressed?
TBTG it’s not Nancy’s color.
(some sisu there, “finn”….)
Um, we’ve all been pretty damn certain that the White House has been driving healthcare reform this entire time, and actually have it pretty well documented; that’s why many of us lay the pathetic condition of anything remotely resembling real reform squarely at Obama’s feet.
You can thank your imaginary friend for whatever you like, including your insubstantial comment, but the facts are Pelosi only brings up the Public Option when it’s safe, when it won’t have any chance of passing, or even be taken seriously. Anyone who thought they would really truly fight for it can now be rightly called a rube. Continuous Dog and Pony show, and liberal Democrat supporters keep falling for it.
the bitterness is the taste of an industry bailout while tens of thousands of american die and suffer needlessly every year while actual solutions are ignored.
nancy may not be the best public speaker; but she sure knows how to get things done and that’s her job! makes it a no brainer why the disingenuous gop will run (and unfortunately probably win) by denigrating her!
Why is it that Fedex and UPS have run profitable shipping companies year after year, yet the USPS goes in the hole by billions every year? While I certainly don’t endorse eliminating the postal service, until it can be operated with some semblance of efficiency, asking me to believe the government will save us money by running healthcare is simply ignorant.
Because USPS actually gets things into your posession without losing or breaking them, unlike UPS.
no, be serious
Why don’t you do a simple experiment to test your idiotic claim before making idiotic claims. Simply send twenty parcels to your friend across the country at your own expense, ten by FedEx and ten by the USPS and then tell us all about it.
Furthermore think even a few minutes before making the even more idiotic claim that the issue at hand is whether the government should run health care. What is being discussed is who and how pays for the health care you receive from providers such as doctors. It is doctors who run health care not the government and certainly not private health insurers. These last are just payers for services by providers nothing more.
Better yet just think a few minutes and then decide whether what you want to say makes any sense.