After I complained the Administration was shining us on about why we should allow too-big-to-fail (TBTF) banks to exist, the Administration, unfailing readers of strawmen, sent the hapless Larry Summers to PBS News Hour to explain to the unsophisticated that if we broke up the megabanks and instead had many smaller regulated banks, it would be the end of America and the financial industry as we know it.
As Paul Krugman says today, "so?"
From the PBS interview with Jeff Brown:
Brown: The too big to fail issue, why not go further? Why not just limit the size of banks?
Summers: Jeff, that was the approach America took to banking before the depression. That was the approach America took to lending in the thrift sector, before we had the S&L crisis. Most observers who study this believe that to try to break banks up into a lot of little pieces would hurt our ability to serve large companies, and hurt the competitiveness of the United States. But that’s not the important issue, they believe that it would actually make us less stable. Because the individual banks would be less diversified, and therefore at greater risk of failing because they wouldn’t have profits in one area to turn to when a different area got in trouble. And most observers believe that dealing with the simultaneous failure of many small institutions would actually generate more need for bailouts and reliance on taxpayers than the current economic environment.
Funny, I always thought the smaller bank system, if that’s what it was, failed because Wall Street wasn’t sufficiently regulated, and the local bank runs happened because we didn’t have the FDIC at the time. So is Larry now saying that having the FDIC to take over smaller bank failures has been a failure?
And what’s he saying about needing diversified megabanks that lose money on risky stuff but loot, uh, borrow money from better managed activities? Surely he doesn’t mean to argue for letting the investment casino borrow from the government-guaranteed deposit-based divisions?
And the stuff about needing megabanks to do megadeals runs counter to economists, including those at the Federal Reserve, who can’t think of any reason why banks need to be much bigger than $100 billion assets, not 10 to 25 times that large.
Meanwhile, Paul Krugman seems to be having a Road to Damascus moment. After suggestions earlier that he didn’t think breaking up the TBTF banks got to the core problems that caused the meltdown, he now seems much more worried about the political power, influence and corruption of Larry Summers’ friends:
The fact is that Mr. Obama should be trying to do what’s right for the country — full stop. If doing so hurts the bankers, that’s O.K.
More than that, reform actually should hurt the bankers. A growing body of analysis suggests that an oversized financial industry is hurting the broader economy. Shrinking that oversized industry won’t make Wall Street happy, but what’s bad for Wall Street would be good for America. . . .
What’s the matter with finance? Start with the fact that the modern financial industry generates huge profits and paychecks, yet delivers few tangible benefits.
. . .
These profits were justified, we were told, because the industry was doing great things for the economy. It was channeling capital to productive uses; it was spreading risk; it was enhancing financial stability. None of those were true. Capital was channeled not to job-creating innovators, but into an unsustainable housing bubble; risk was concentrated, not spread; and when the housing bubble burst, the supposedly stable financial system imploded, with the worst global slump since the Great Depression as collateral damage.
Yesterday I was upset because the Administration was not being straight with us. Now they’re telling us what they really think, it’s worse. These guys love Wall Street’s megabanks, so they’re shielding them, even though they’re still looting the country. And when top advisers sound just like Jamie Dimon, it’s like they’re already half way out the revolving door.
More:
HuffPo, Shahien Nasiripour, Larry Summers Defends Megabanks
Rortybomb/Mike Konczal: Six things worth fighting for in the Senate bill
Simon Johnson: The consensus on big banks starts to move
HuffPo/Robert Kuttner, reports on Dems splitting over whether to compromise to get Republican votes
Update: DeLong cites a study suggesting some bank concentration can => greater stability. Huh.
Update II, Friday night: Krugman has been exploring the related topic. Is he saying a concentrated market appears stable while it works as an "unintentional ponzi scheme," which seems stable until it blows up?
So I’d suggest that what we did between 1980 and 2008 was to replace a financial system in which profits were created by lack of competition with a system in which profits were created by misinformation and misperceptions — a giant, if mostly (not entirely) unintentional Ponzi scheme, which finally went bust.
I don’t think this is an argument for not breaking up the monsters. And what if it’s not "unintential" but collusion?



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foreign policy power projection.
p.s. scarecrow, any chance you might be willing to go to dc for a free economic conference on the 28th? and no, i don’t mean the Peterson Foundation deficit terrorists. I mean this one: http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/42614
i’m asking because i think you are just the kind of person to get a lot out of it (smart, independent thinker interested in economics). and i think, even if you disagreed, you’d give them a fair hearing and a fair reporting.
Good catch. Yeah, Larry is entirely corrupt. Sorta like Geithner but smarter.
Obama’s economic team are a bunch of right wing neoliberal Wallstreet stooges. Apologies for the triple redundancy.
Flattery and a plane ticket will get you anything, selise. I wish that conference well. I think it would be worthwhile, but I was concerned from the beginning about the funding for such an event (I used to chair conferences, and they take lots of bucks from big sponsors and attendence fees), which is why I urged the Dean Baker/others to at least think about a counter “virtual” conference, which they’re now having. Good luck, and if I can get down there, I will.
So it’s Saul Krugman now?
Suggested edit.
Gotta have gigundo banks to make those giundo campaign contributions.
IIRC, in the King James Version (or was it Revised Standard?) Saul became Paul. Lightning does that, apparently.
Gee, I have no idea why Summers doesn’t want many small banks.
lol, re “concerned about the funding,” well i think we could share a lot of laughs about that some time off line.
but everyone (meaning the speakers) has, to my knowledge, made reservations (air, hotel, etc) the venue is booked at GWU and the A/V in in the works for web archival (streaming would be great, but that is far less likely unless more donors come through). so i think it’s going to happen, it’s just a matter of what kind of an impact it can have.
the flattery part is no problem :), but i want to try to raise some more $ for the event itself. if that was all funded, i’d be happy to try to get you a ticket and place to stay.
These guys will say anything to attempt to justify their determination to align themselves with the big and powerful. Corporatist to the core, hierarchical to the core.
i thought my answer was pretty good, but that one is better.
Who wants to be the head of a small bank?, or many for that matter. You can’t ‘steal’ billions from a small bank…only big ones too big to fail.
Every once in a while, he’s good for a quote.
There are remarkably few things in America that couldn’t be financed by smaller banks. At least, if small is maybe a tenth the size of the big banks or less. Break them up into tiny pieces and Summer might have a point, but I don’t think anyone is seriously proposing that as a strategy. No one builds huge industries from scratch. They mostly start out as small industries.
Big banks = Big bonuses
Larry’s just thinking ahead.
Don’t let Krugman’s one dip into reality fool you. I guarantee you at the end of the day when Obama and the D’s (almost as a good a ring to it as “W and the Dick”) get done with financial *cough* *cough* regulation, it will be a bill that does nothing remotely close to getting rid of TBTF yet it will be the best bill since, well since HCR!!!! You betcha!!
Boring comments so far though, they’re all based in reality and full of facts.
Those Obamapologists twisted logic is always so much more entertaining to read. Should be along any second now to tell us why all that Obama and the D’s are doing is the greatest thing since, well, since HCR, you betcha!
Why do bankers rob banks?….because that’s where the government backed billions of dollars are. Too big to fail but big enough to rob.
Wonderful post, Scarecrow.
I ‘second’ selise’s encouragement that you go to that conference; you’d really be an asset in the most responsible sense of that word.
As for Summers… bleh…
It’s a bit baffling to me that he fails to see that banks might develop niche markets and expertise if they were smaller. Go figure.
I really think the work Robert Johnson and INET are embarking on is critically important, and can’t happen soon enough. I suppose Summers’ head would ache if he had to encounter such grappling with new economic paradigms.
And for a bit of cheering news, New Deal 2.0 is announcing that the frank-talking Prof. William Black will be on Bill Moyers tonight. Woot!
(Now, if Dylan Ratigan and/or Rachel Maddow would have him on their shows next week… after his Congressional testimony this week, I’d think every cable host would be elbowing each other to get him on.)
I think he got mugged and didn’t want to admit it.
Yeah, but it’s not as if banks have to build a Boeing Dreamliner, or invent cars. Money is money is money is money.
Until it is ‘securitized’ on Wall Street, at which point it seems to morph into 50% bankster fees, 40% bullshit, and 10% actual value to the economy.
Not a good return on that investment.
And those small banks are way too easy to audit.
Note thatSummers argues that we need megabanks with diversified holdings and risks, in case one division gets in trouble, others can bail it out — which suggests that a bank could risk losing a lot of money on risky investments, but fall back on its more stable (and govt guaranteed) depository business — one of the obvious problems I thought we were trying to fix. This truly is an astonishing statement.
we’re in the same boat
broadly speaking however, I think Fin Reform is more naked in it’s helpful hand to TBTF, and not just because we’ve seen this movie before, I’ve been reading the language – and they are barely couching it
that said, it will be interesting to watch the cheerleaders (now locked in because of their HCR sh*) being forced to cheer this beast – it’s not like there’s a mythical 31 million who will be getting coverage because of a horrible, industry fellating bill – nuttin’ – good effin’ luck, but frankly, they’ve got it comin
Must be the fact that “Obama and the Ds” rolls off the tongue softer than “W and the Dick(head).”
The fact that Larry Summers was a member of the Clinton cabinet and a key supporter of Republican Sen. Phil Gramm’s bill to DEREGULATE the banking industry should tell anyone paying attention exactly where he and the Obama administration really stand.
Thanks for the heads up great news about Black. Moyers going out with some flair.
As for conferences, don’t encourage me. When I used to do these things, I had a reputation for waiting to the end of a session, then asking a speaker to put up some goofy slide he had used, then using it to show he had everything upside down. I was not always the gentle, kind, unassuming, truly warm but mindless human being you see now.
If the TBTF banks are broken up the resulting banks could actually have a positive effect on the economy by, you know, really loaning money to small businesses etc, instead of speculating amongst themselves and getting rich in the process.
*snort*
Which Idiot Decided Not to Regulate Credit Default Swaps?
Which Idiot Decided to Repeal Glass-Steagall?
It will truly be a sad day for television “journalism” when Bill Moyers Journal ends on April 30th.
Sure hope you can swim then. *g*
Cause after 8 years of W and the Dick, I really thought my efforts in 2006 and 2008 to fix the leaks were going to pay off. Literally couldn’t wait for Nov 08 to get here so I could vote for Obama and every D down the ticket.
Instead, the boat has spring new and bigger leaks now. If I didn’t know any better, I’d swear this boat is sinking.
fair is fair. the purpose of my support of the conference is to further understanding. if you see something that looks wrong to you, i would be disappointed if you didn’t push the issue. all i’d ask, as if i needed to, would be just that you give them a fair hearing and be willing to consider massive paradigm changes.
Yep, that’s probably it exactly.
SOVS Update
Those are just as fun to read again as the first time. Why does it seem so long ago?
Oh, I didn’t mean to diss THAT conference. If I go, it would be to learn; there are some really smart people speaking.
Greider writes about that in One World…
it was a long time ago. i did the reading for those a year and a half ago, maybe even a bit more than that..
It’s been interesting to watch the recent blogger debate — e.g, at DeLong — about Born vs Rubin, with the Rubin friends arguing that he really wanted to regulated derivatives, but the politically naive Born insisted it be done by her agency, not resolved by the inter-agency group in the WH, and that her solution was not legally possible nor could they get a good regime through Congress — or something like that. It sounds like the 2000 version of “Joe Lieberman made me eat my homework.”
one of the most REDICULOUS practices is big banks buying a small bank and the closing it’s doors
this should be illegal, if they buy a local bank it should be totally illegal to then close that bank down unless they can show the bank is doing less business then the day they bought it for no reason that can be attributed to a deliberate action by the bigger bank
i really really think they are too. these are the people who’s writing, etc i’ve been pushing for months (as a result of my year+ search to find some basic answers). i’d like to have waited at least a couple of years more for time to study and think and develop some better understanding of their work myself before pushing them so hard. but i don’t think we have the luxury of time and so i want to at least share what little bits i’ve found – now, not later.
there is so much i want to read – and not just yesterday. i’d like to have read that and much much more last year.
btw, i finally (after months of looking) got my hands on a copy of basil moore’s horizontalists and verticalists: the macroeconomics of credit money, for a few days. (out of print and one used copy at amazon.com for $450). and i photocopied the whole damn thing. :)
You’re as bad as I am. I can’t count the binders containing copied oop books.
On edit: City libraries are great places to find ‘em.
i haven’t been watching, or even aware of, that debate.
although it’s been a while since i read the hearing transcripts and pwg releases, my reaction to rubin’s friends, whoever they are, is WTF?
Larry Summers apparently is a big proponent of monopolies.
Why is it that every time we get to a “crisis” situation whether it be financial, our food system, health insurance, etc., we are also at a point in time where there are a few monopolistic corporations running the show? These few corporations can then change our culture because their influence on government and our laws results in decreased democracy and a “voice” by “we the people”.
lol, first time i’ve done it. first waited months with a used book order in at amazon (i’ve gotten good oop things at low prices that way before — just took a little patience. in print books too – i recently got godley and lavoie’s monetary economics for a good price. but it took months of waiting).
but moore’s book i couldn’t get. not that way on amazon. not locally: it’s not at our library, not in the regional network, there’s one copy supposed to be a local university but it’s been missing about 2 years. a copy at the boston public library, but not for circulation. and so it went…
Friedman’s free market economics. The Friedmaniacs are coming out of the woodwork to kill any sort of financial regulation. They want even less regulation than we have now and that’s nonexistent. Meanwhile, the SEC was too busy watching the 21st century versions of “Deep Throat” and “Debbie Does Dallas.”
Well that was… interesting.
Gotta admit it’s interesting times we’re living in now. Don’t know if the big bad terrists are gonna kill us any day, or whether it will be dying from lack of health care, or maybe the implosion from this unsustainable batshitcrazy fascist economy, or perhaps global warming will just flood us all.
Or maybe a teeny, tiny fingus will do the trick.
Interesting times, no?
Did you end up having to fork out the $450? I’m unclear as to where you got it. Did I miss something? If I can’t find a used book at Haslam’s here I go to Amazon. Used to use AbeBooks, which is really, really good, but they’re Canadian and I have to notify my credit union 3 days in advance of ordering anything with my debit card. If I really want something I go to the seller via AbeBooks.
On edit: for a few days got it
lol
What was that old saying… If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit..?
Well now it’s… If you can’t strip out the regulations, entertain the regulators with strippers… or some pron related thing.
isn’t that supposed to be a curse or something?
Not individually, no. Single financial sources don’t typically bankroll a major project. Usually, the companies finance what they need to out of cash reserves, redeploy resources, and/or borrow for small portions of them that need to be paid for up front.
Oh, I dunno.
Educate me.
On edit: Ok, teh Google educated me. Yeah, I see an old Chinese curse.
Gee, things must really be worse than I thought!!!
These are just some thoughts: No Small banks? Say just Well Fargo, BoA, Citi, Chase? It seems like, everyday whether at the super market, Home Depot of the auto parts store, I am given fewer choices and the prices keep rising.
I have to make do with what they have or buy it online, (Even my preffered brand of yellow mustard) and even if I go online the choice isn’t there, plus whiat if I need it now today?
The thought just occurred to me what if this were true of banks? What choice would I have if my local community bank were bought by BoA etc?
I would most likely have to start paying for my checking and probably pay a fee for the privededge of the convieance of carrying an ATM/debit card.
My savings account would more likely be moved to a shoebox in my closet or an envelope in my sock drawer. It is only a convieance to save out a little each month so I am not caught short when property taxes are due.
I am sure most bloggers here on FDL don’t have to worry about these kinds of things. But for me it is a What if? moment. I live way below the poverty level so every time a teabagger denegrates the poor I take it personally. It is not like I have always lived on the Gov’t dole, but I have always struggled. Even when we had a combined income of $40,000.00 a year, that was in the late 80′s. My income was never as good as it was then.
What would I do If I couldn’t afford a Bank account? How much would I spend to cash a check? My one credit card would go away completely.
would I be doing all my banking at Wal-Mart?
hell no. that was out of the question.
a nice librarian called up a non-local university which had it on their non-circulation desk and asked if the library could borrow it. the local library then lent it to me, i went directly to the copy place and spent the next couple of hours making copies (i also had some microfiche photocopies to get scanned — congressional record stuff that isn’t on line) and returned it asap.
on edit: got your edit. :)
sorry, can’t on that one. don’t know.
I’ve been wondering if the transactional part of the banking business is now so computerized that it isn’t really that profitable. Banks can’t really raise prices for checking accounts, debit cards and savings accounts because large accounts will flow to money market funds. They can cover their costs from loan profits in normal times, but what about bad times when loan losses increase? The margins for normal loans are what they are, and the entire business model may be in trouble.
Found it with teh Google, you were right.
May you live in interesting times is known as the Chinese curse, according to teh Wiki.
OldFatGuy, thank you for that link. This is new and disturbing news for me which I have to check out much further.
I’m starting to think Summers is not as good as an economist as I thought he was, and I was always an admirer of his professional work. He needs to get back to the books and starting thinking again. There is absolutely no evidence for his assertions. He used to be a good evidence-based economist. The crisis started with the big banks not the small ones. As to the reg Q fiasco with the S&L’s, that is ancient history and not relevant to the present situation.
Like I said, he’s got to go back to the library and do some serious reading and thinking.
Thanks for this follow-up on Summers.
Truly enjoyed your depiction of the past vs. present demeanor at conferences. I’ve seen both sides on these pages.
But I second Selise’s recommendation and request. I’m hungry for your reflections on the Commission’s work and underlying assumptions and challenges.
As for small banks, I was fascinated some months ago by the reports of several area bank being investigated for various forms of fraudulent actions with regard to bankers stealing funds, bankers rewarding favored friends on commercial real estate deals that later flopped, undercapitalization because of the former, and high risk of being taken over by FDIC.
The record of FDIC takeovers in last couple of years suggests that many small banks are generally in big trouble for a variety of reasons, as Massacio says. Nevertheless I affirm Huffington’s promotion of taking money from the big boys and putting it into the smaller banks (preferably credit unions – which I have done with my pitifully small SS income long ago).
I do not expect any real significant changes in the financial reform system and I am sickened by that. Screw them all, but that gets me and us no where. Lord have mercy….
Blessings,
Sorry I don’t have any good answers for you, but your post struck a nerve. I too am poor. I made more money in 1999 than in all the years since put together since being on disability.
There aren’t any good answers. Once, a relative wrote me a check for $100 to help out. Not having my own bank account, I went to hers. I had no account there so they were going to charge me $5.00 to cash it, even though it was written on their bank.
The poor get hit with more fees in almost every facet of everyday life. And it’s totally unfair, and plain wrong, IMNSHO. You’re charged more for everything for the sin of being poor. I finally opened up an account because they were wanting to charge me a percentage to cash my disabiity check. So, I opened an account, and pay the damned $10 a month fee.
I don’t have any good answers for you, but did want you to know that you’re not alone. In fact, IMO, it won’t be long before there are more of us than there of the middle class, because any and all policies all seem to be headed in the direction of enriching the already rich and doing away with the middle class. Which will leave a lot of us in the same boat. A very small, unseaworthy, boat.
Good luck to you man. I’m lucky to have relatives to lean on (though I don’t much like that TBH). Others aren’t so lucky. Whatever the case is with you, good luck.
Following is an article written about Walmart in 2003, but it still applies:
The Wal-Mart You Don’t Know
I’ve added an update from DeLong, who cites a 2005 study suggesting some concentration can lead to better stability. So one question would be how well the study controls for differences in regulatory regimes, political stability, what drives national investment (e.g. housing vs ?), and related factors.
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2010/04/links-for-2010-04-22.html
WOW! That’s nasty.
We moved our “banking”, including the major credit card, to a Credit Union years ago after poor service from a major bank. The credit union has consistently shown above average customer service and provided honest financial information. Credit Unions are “member” owned, non-profits and strive for service over profits (in contrast to the banks). I would never return to dealing with the big banks over a credit union unless I had absolutely no other choice.
Pardon my abject ignorance, but what makes this book both rare, expensive, and so important?
Ah. Ordinary Americans. The unprotected playthings of the plutocrats!
You know, I was just thinking. Too bad we don’t have a ‘one drop rule’ for white guys so that Obama could be an official white guy, and then he would change parties and run for a second term as a Republican, and then we could find a ‘real’ Democrate and vote for him or her? Yes, I know, this is all lunacy, but it’s getting pretty tough figuring out who are the Republicans and who are the Democrates. Help!
Make that Democrat. Just very tired. Where the hell is my spell checker when I need it?
Frankly, I think we are long overdue for a strong of character, progressive woman for President of the United States. Now, I just need to find that person…
T/U, Scarecrow, for covering Summers NewsHour appearance. I was making supper, watching/listening to NewsHour, and, kaboom!, heard from Larry Summers that the Great Depression was caused by small banks!?!?! The S&L crisis was caused by limiting the size of S&L’s? Realllly, Larry?
I rushed to the TV to see if he were smiling, joking — he appeared to be not only serious but looking a tad smug about what he was saying. Yikes!
His interviewer did not pause, ask for an explanation, nothing. (IIRC).
I was waiting for the transcript to double check that I’d heard correctly.
Savings and Loan Associations were bailed out by the U.S. government while former President George H.W. Bush was in office.
The Financial crisis of 2008 resulted in a bailout by the U.S. government while former President George W. Bush was in office.
Just wanted to point this out. Just possibly…the economic policies of the neo-cons (see Bush family) and neo-liberals (President Obama) are not working well for our country.
don’t really know about the first two: out of print text book, so maybe there aren’t many copies around?
important to me because one of the people who advised me to read wray’s book (which althoug has a lot of info, is very well written and not a hard read — mind blowing/ paradigm shifting ideas though) also told me to read moore as that would answer a lot of my questions.
swell. interesting times.
or maybe his goals are not what he says they are. if he’s such a smart guy isn’t it possible that he’s throwing up flack to confuse the public?
that’s an excellent point. i’ve been doing my banking with the same credit union for over 25 years. don’t want to go back to the world of horrible fees, minimum balances, etc.
One more thought. Hear me out on this one. You know the Democrats and Republicans are not corrupt at all. In fact they show the highest degree of integrity. After all, they were well paid by the corporations to do the corporations’ bidding, and gosh darn if they aren’t doing a bang up job for the corporations. Let’s hear it for our great elected officials. So you see, there is honor among thieves, and we should all be proud, damned proud, that we sent such sterling examples of mankind/womankind to Washington. The only question left is how in the hell are we going to get rid of this vermin?
Larry is an ignorant asshole and more than part of the problems of this Country.
Here is a so called Economist, that works for the Government to make money for himself and the Wall Street elite. He actually worked to remove the regulation that would have kept the crisis’s from developing. Now He is working to keep from installling what would help the Country and People.
This was Obama’s downfall putting the foxes in charge of the hen house, and Him listening to them.
i heard him on the radio yesterday and it was interesting to hear him sound absolutely confounded with trying to mix in progessive rhetoric with limousine liberal policies.
clinton came out saying the advice summers and rubin gave him on de-regulation was wrong, he had no good response, really, but how could you?
He was a @#$%^& even then. Remember, this is the guy who got Harvard into deep trouble because he doesn’t think women are capable of reasoning, at least not well enough to be scientists. (He’s an economist (and a crappy one, clearly), which I think disqualifies him from commenting on any kind of science more recent than about 1500.)
Harder to go around collecting all your kickbacks?
You forgot the S&L crisis of the 80s and McCain’s little adventure with the Keating Five.
Credit card interest and fees come to mind. (I suspect that’s where a lot of the profits are coming from. Remember ‘Circuit City’ and what happened to them?)
They can’t afford his consulting fees?
And he said that rich countries should deal with their toxic waste by sending it to third world countries. He was serious.
Reasons for splitting up big banks are numerous like it is really good for the consumers with lower costs due to intense competition, better deal for the share-holders since some split components will do really well and have better stock price, less risk for the economic melt-down because of the smaller entities, more wealth spreading due to more localised banks investing in small business, less liability for the government since bailout chapter can be closed etc.
Only reason against it is people to be affected with this change adversely will be the CEOs of those companies.
No logical reason behind it just like dropping public option in HCR. Just a stance taken for the gain of few which can be counted by hand at the expense of overwhelming majority and our countries future economic strength & stability.
Wait they wanted to reach the unsophisticated on PBS? Pardon me while I start laughing. I don’t think the average watcher of The O’Riley Factor also watches PBS, they likely think its another liberal Gubermint outpost.
The excuse they wanna give isn’t a good one of course, let’s hope they go ahead and break up the banks. Yes its a source of campaign finance but if they passed Public Funded Elections along with breaking up the largest banks then it would make sense.
I still say movements to have a State owned bank (Laura Wells is in support of that) and “Move Your Money” are our only real defense against lack of Government oversight.
Just don’t let the Biggest Banks have your money…
Seriousl LOL! I’ve been described the same way on occasion. (Just I know less about the ins and outs of finance and economics than you obviously do.)
About that plane ticket…coordinate with Selise. She and I may be able to come up with something. (Selise, you listening?)
Elizabeth Warren?
Hey, OFG –
Paying $10/month service charge? How old are you? Most places I know of, including (believe it or not, the B of A) have free checking accounts for folks over a certain age. (B of A it’s 55; don’t know about others.)
lol, my rss feed was. (listening that is – i have it set up to flag comments where my name is used.)
BigJess, that’s a fabulous and very generous idea! you can email me at gmail, or via the contact page at my website and i’ll email scarecrow.
Because he can’t deal with bankers whose customers know where they live?