Unless I misunderstand these stories, it appears the world’s biggest economies just decided, over US objections, to resurrect Herbert Hoover, rebury Keynes and pursue another Great Recession, tanking their economies and putting millions more out of work. And it’s all driven by a world-wide plague of deficit hysteria syndrome.
You can’t tell what the world’s largest economies just agreed on from the AP (via WashPost) article of the G-20 financial summit in South Korea. The piece has several diplomatic statements from Tim Geithner warning Europe it can’t look to a booming US economy to lift Europe, so they better have plans to grow their own economies by expanding internal demand. Stronger demand in Europe would then support US hopes to use increased exports to help drive US economic growth. That plan now looks dead.
The Financial Times coverage of the same event tells us a majority of G20 nations plus the International Monetary Fund (IMF) are planning to shrink their economies and depress demand, signaling a broad rejection of the claimed US position.
First, the US/Geithner centric version from the AP (via WashPost):
The Group of 20 welcomed measures taken by the European Union, the European Central Bank and the IMF, including a $1 trillion bailout, to help countries cope with the fallout from unsustainably high debt.
"All of us have a strong interest in seeing those programs succeed in restoring confidence," U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner told reporters after the meetings ended.
Long-term, sustainable growth will depend on rebalancing growth, he said.
"The United States is moving aggressively to fix things we got wrong and to strengthen our economic fundamentals," Geithner said, noting that as Americans boost savings and investment and consume less, other countries will need to generate more growth.
"All the countries recognize the basic reality that the U.S. is reforming and adjusting and that for the world to grow at its potential it is going to require that growth outside the U.S. will come more from domestic demand than in the past," he said.
Next, what the Europeans are saying, via the Financial Times (subscription required):
The communiqué of the meeting made it clear that the G20 no longer thought that expansionary fiscal policy was sustainable or effective in fostering an economic recovery because investors were no longer confident about some countries’ public finances. “The recent events highlight the importance of sustainable public finances and the need for our countries to put in place credible, growth-friendly measures, to deliver fiscal sustainability,” the communiqué stated.
“Those countries with serious fiscal challenges need to accelerate the pace of consolidation,” it added. “We welcome the recent announcements by some countries to reduce their deficits in 2010 and strengthen their fiscal frameworks and institutions”.
These words were in marked contrast to the G20’s previous communiqué from late April, which called for fiscal support to “be maintained until the recovery is firmly driven by the private sector and becomes more entrenched”.
So, our trading partners, particularly Europe, are giving up trying to increase demand through stimulus and other measures and are focused on reducing deficits, even though that switch is bound to depress economic growth and put millions of people out of work. And the deficit reduction and other "austerity" measures are aimed directly at wages, benefits and safety nets for the less well off — exactly what the deficit hawks are urging for the US through Obama’s stacked deficit reduction commission.
It seems there’s a world-wide pandemic of deficit derangement syndrome, being pushed by the usual economic elites at the expense of everyone else. And even if "belt-tightening" is needed in some cases, there’s no talk of asking for shared sacrifice among the wealthy. Bond holders/Creditors must be protected.
The angry citizens demonstrating in Europe’s cities know this is class war being waged against them by the world’s economic elite, but nobody calls it that; instead, it’s all wrapped there and here in the language of "fiscal responsibility" (from FT):
Many other finance ministers accepted market realities had changed the G20’s policy, Christine Lagarde, French finance minister, said: “There’s a large majority for whom redressing the public finances is priority number one. For a minority, it’s supporting growth”.
Even Dominique Strauss Kahn, managing director of the International Monetary Fund who championed fiscal stimulus since January 2008, recognised the world was suddenly different. Asked whether he felt comfortable with the change in tone from the G20, he replied: “Totally comfortable. I am not the champion of fiscal stimulus, but the champion of right fiscal policy.”
Where’s Our Plan B? New Team A?
The Obama Administration is staring at a failed economic policy. The recovery is not robust enough, and they can’t point to a credible driver for sustained growth. At best, it’s likely to take years to recover the 9 million or so jobs we’ve lost.
They’ve shackled themselves to half policies. Obama was unwilling to ask for more than half the fiscal stimulus his own economists told us we needed last year. Now they’re afraid to ask Congress for what the economy still needs and can do nothing while nihilist Republicans and inexcusably ignorant Blue Dogs tell us we can’t afford to keep states from laying off hundreds of thousands teachers and others as they curtail Medicaid. We can’t even afford to have summer jobs for students.
It’s inexcusable that Ben Bernanke told us, before he was confirmed, it’s not his problem, even though it is. Now more of his Fed colleagues are clamoring for policies that could produce another recession if pursued now.
Once the Administration was unwilling to spend enough and unwilling to demand the Federal Reserve follow its mandate to pursue full employment, the economic team told us we’d use expanded trade to grow our way out of the Great Recession, e.g., looking to European expansion. But G20 and panic in Europe just killed that, and Obama’s own pandering to the deficit hysterics makes our protests unconvincing.
We need more than a Plan B; we need a different Team A (save Romer). Even if the current team claims they "saved" the financial sector (to do what? The "reforms" preserve the same looters, only bigger) after ignoring how they let it nearly collapse, it’s not convincing to say we shouldn’t give a different economic team a chance. We might even find some actual Democratic economists for a change. I suspect Democratic voters would approve.
John Chandley
Updates/more:
What Digby said, Global Neo-Hooverism
Krugman, Lost Decade, Here We Come
More:
Paul Krugman, The pain caucus; Lost decade looming
Dean Baker, Pearlstein nails spendthrift Blue Dogs; Deficit Hawks opposed to the jobs bill were too dumb to see $8 trillion housing bubble
Brad DeLong, The ten-year US treasure rate is . . . 3.20%; Well yes, my hair is on fire . . . linking to Duncan at Eschaton
Simon Johnson, French Connection: European crisis worsens; Eugene Fama and TBTF banks
Calculated Risk: check out the unemployment graphs, esp. here and here.



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“Policymakers” comments
More analysis.
Just like the U.S. policy of trying to put humpty-dumpty back together again as contrasted to seeing the forest ,not just the trees, the whole world refuses to take on the ‘investors’(whomever they might be, such is never identified) and continues to act as though fiat money is actually backed by something other than words and faith.
It sure seems as though it’s an addiction whereby nothing will change until ‘rock bottom’ is hit.
What’s interesting about all the communiques and statements is the lack of ANY voices from S.America.
When money is devalued, deficit spending, individuals’ debt is lessened; conversely, the financiers lose value. Workers are going to have to elect governments wise enough to realize that if consumers are enabled, the economy grows for everyone. What we have is the mogul horde further beggaring the very consumers they need.
Yeah, I always wonder who the MOTU think will be around to buy the goods and prop them up if the rest of us don’t have jobs or money.
To call them clueless is being quite kind to their idiocies.
Governments are now run by “investors”.
Until we are all willing to tax the rich heavily, we are at their mercy.
yes, but not just “tax.” We can also create money, and can do so more easily when inflation is so low — less than 1% here; even lower in most of Europe.
btw, I’ve been reading around and adding several more links to the “more” list. Just scratching the surface. Lots of good new stuff out there relevant to this topic.
Also, since I suspect you can read French, have you seen other reactions there?
Setting the stage for the long awaited world wide revolution. Workers of the world unite!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pushing_on_a_string
They could be just jawboning to keep the Euro from falling apart. Or it could be the endgame, where the banks keep the free money from the Fed while it increases in value, and the rest of us go broke. When they raise interest rates, I’ll believe they aren’t lying.
Thank you for the post, it’s important.
Reads to me as if the Banksters threatened the G20…
Never mind, there’s plenty of Money for Wars…
The greatest deception of Satan was convincing everyone he didn’t exist.
Geithner was arguing against Neo Hooverism? Just how bad are things if Geithner gave up his Zeitgeist/Worldview?
When the news broke that job creation was limited primarily to government census operations the market proceeded to discount the future of economic recovery.
This action was foreseeable as a result of policy mistakes on the part of the administration which failed to reignite sustainable growth in the economy.
Our lesson will be a harsh one involving cascading asset values, difficult financing conditions here and abroad, global socio-economic stress starting with nations facing default. This is not a time to celebrate or feel empowered — the future will be a harsh mistress to those with hubris coursing through their veins.
The emerging threats to our stability are not trivial, and they will persist beyond people’s expectation of “the norm”. In three years time, the deflationary denouement will be finally coming to rest, like a snowball induced avalanche at the bottom of the mountain. Then, as 2013 opens, we will have a choice…
There will be only one choice — survive.
The more I read about this-while concurring with your comment- the more I think it is kabuki. the disagreements between the U.S. backed coalition and the developing nations, including the BRIC countries seems to be as wide as before.
Brazil and S. Korea made an agreement on the side completely independent from any other agreements.
We have a plan B create jobs rebuilding America’s infrastructure and creating green jobs. We create jobs that return our dollars spent with interest.
How do we pay for it End the Wars! we could also tax the rich not on income but assets they already have to pay for plan B.
We need a different A team? Agreed but we need names.
The End Game for the return to global feudalism
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/3-days-month-169-billion-debt-redeemed
Can this in any serious way be interpreted as a conscious global attempt to roll back US (or US-Israel if you prefer) imperial power generally? Because it seems likely to produce that effect.
Those pesky consumers! Can’t they just shut up and be mere receptacles for our exploitation?
All will ‘love’ this:
“I continue to be very worried about the large negative contribution to growth that will come from Federal, state, and local governments as they cut payrolls and increase taxes. I think the combined effect looks to be close to 2% of GDP. If we are flatlining by the end of the year, such an outrageous tax increase will shove us into another recession. Let there be no doubt what the cause will be.
(Keep in mind that this is a VERY wealthy man writing)
Ok, Paul, I am going to call you out. (Paul McCulley of PIMCO, really a very good friend and all-around nicest guy in the world.) Paul said to me at my latest conference that tax increases on the rich will not have a negative multiplier effect on the economy. He thinks the Romers’ research is on the total economy and thus the rich (read: lots of you) will not change their spending habits. I say it will. Many of those “rich” are small business owners. Look at the above data from Dunk (NFIB). That does not add up to no impact.
Let me say it for the (insert number) time. If we go back into recession, the market on average drops 40%. This is NOT a buy-and-hold market. It is a buy-and-trade or, for those with the skills, sell-and-short. (If you are not experienced at short selling, this is not the time to jump in “whole hog.” Short selling is a craft. An art form. A dangerous thing for rookies. Tread gently, gentle reader.)
There is a slow train coming. Between December of 2007 and through April of this year disposable personal income would have been DOWN just over $900 billion without the stimulus money (Gary Shilling). It would have been a far more serious recession. And now we are getting ready to find out whether we can make it without the intravenous infusion of government (borrowed taxpayer) money. I fear the train is going to slow down. ”
From here.
Bank of America workers across US sue for overtime
Scarecrow is a hero!!
Yes, new economic leadership is needed.
James Galbraith’s May 27th speech at Humboldt University, Berlin.
Two points from Prof Galbraith’s speech:
1) “Trust cannot be regained until the wheels of justice turn”.
Bill Black has also harped on this point. Suggesting that we should restaff the FBI’s financial crime unit with 1000 new agents. Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur has a bill in to do just that although my understanding is that the Obama administration could do this without an act of Congress(they simply choose not to do it).
2) He also questions the long term viability of the derivative structure(Credit Default Swaps) of our financial system.
I don’t believe that credit default swaps facilitate anything except disaster. But our current Treasury Secretary, Timmy Geithner, not only considers them vital but also refuses to even debate thier reform.
Congressman Brad Sherman’s question to Geithner comes to mind: Will a derivative issued today be subject to a government bailout out tomorrow?
“The United States is moving aggressively to fix things we got wrong and to strengthen our economic fundamentals,” Geithner said, noting that as Americans boost savings and investment and consume less, other countries will need to generate more growth.”
Who can spot the neo-liberal fallacies in this quote? First, Americans are not boosting savings and investment, but they are consuming less. Such “saving and investing” as the average American is engaging in is merely paying down debt.
As Geithner seems to be describing a contractionary fiscal stance on the part of the U.S. gov., he is then saying “hey we can’t all do the fiscal austerity thing and expect to be able to grow.” In this he is right but the absurdity is his thinking that “America is strengthening our economic fundamentals” by being “more responsible” and then expecting that Europe, fiscally constrained as it is by its (neo-liberally conceived) dysfunctional monetary arrangements, will be the driver of global growth.
Yup, I suppose we could start by considering some of the author’s of scarecrow’s links.
Dean Baker, I think has a reasonably strong track record. And he certainly is on board for reforms and taxation of the financial sector(Tobin tax). Baker at Treasury would get my vote!
Paul Krugman… I dunno, I find him to be hit&miss. For a member of the mainstream media… he’s not bad. But that’s where I think I’d leave him.
Three other names I’d throw into the hat would be James Galbraith, Elizabeth Warren and Bill Black. Each in a different capacity.
Galbraith would be a natural replacement for Summers. I think he knows how to blend the politics with effective economic measures.
Black would be excellent at leading the FBI’s white collar crime unit, provided that they actually staffed it.
And Warren’s a real thinker, there’d have to be a place for someone like that on any economic team.
http://www.market-ticker.org/archives/2375-Prepare-NOW-They-Get-It.html
As the economic ship of state sinks it’s been decided to lighten the load by throwing the passengers overboard.
very good blog scarecrow. If i read correctly, you want a new cabinet for the president. I won’t tell you that washington d.c. has the progressive movement in check, i bet u know that.
Lets look at the money. If goldman sachs is making billions, most likely the customers of goldman sachs are making hundreds of billions of dollars every few months. Those clients are more than happy with the current economic policy.
As wall street raids the pensions of say, blue collar workers, as they pile cash strapped local governments up with debt, as they manipulate commodity markets ruthlessly, as they buy up companies, loot them of value, and load them up with debt, don’t wonder if the system works, wonder who it works for. It works for Obama and his minions.
I agree with you. Galbraith’s book “The Predator State” was so clear and well reasoned that anybody reading it would bang their hand against their forehead and say, “It’s the inequality, Stupid.” Elizabeth Warren too is clear and strong.
I love you, Scarecrow, but Romer must go too. She’s the smiley chipper mouth piece that reminds me of that nasty fairy godmother in Shrek every time she appears on MSNBC. Major yuck factor for me. She creeps me out as much as the evil elf Geithner and Jaba the Summners. That whole smiley faced thing she has going
Recalling EmptyWheel’s post about BP’s Russian connection and an earlier fly-by of mine regarding Irish concerned about protecting their coast from Shell …
It’s not just Americans not happy about Big Oil’s activities either:
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- from “The €420,000,000,000+ Ireland is giving away” at DublinS2s.com
My impression of Christine Romer is she’s given them the right analysis for the assumptions — she didn’t fudge it, she was overruled on the need for a much bigger stimulus, and she’s continued to say the right things in speeches, but she does not set policy.
Hmmm …
“Irish Oil and Gas Resources could SAVE us YET!”
So the oil companies buy the sovereign debt and voila… sovereign submission. Nice trick Dick.
This just in…
Guest post: El-Erian on the need to listen carefully to what the G-20 is saying
[Disclosure: long ZROZ]
From “And Now Chinese Real Estate Debt Is Blowing Up,” May 31, 2010–
I came very late to this. The G20 is irrelevant, absent American leadership and there has been none since these crises began. The policies are already in place. Perhaps the G20 merely helps focus attention on the fact that political and financial elites around the world have completely failed. For those of us who have been following this, we knew that. Japan has been in a decade long recession. China has been blowing bubbles right and left and these will come back to bite it. In Europe, you have the North forcing austerity programs on Club Med and the East. Since these are the markets the North has been exporting to they are cutting their own throat but hey, it’s not like we haven’t been telling them this. Also the North’s banks have exposures all over the place to all of this. Austerity programs are going to cause a social backlash and they won’t work anyway. So this is only going to delay the day of reckoning of Northern European banks. The UK is a basket case already with high external debt it can not easily control because it’s not pound denominated. And then there is the US, us. The last jobs report showed that even with the Obama programs at their max and the big push to reflate bubbles, the economy is dead in the water.
Isn’t it time for a Jubilee? Seriously. Didn’t John Paul II call for a forgiveness of all debt?
Obama’s real economic program seldom gets enunciated. From the beginning, Team Obama has seen this as primarily about confidence. Fix that and everything else will follow. You also have to understand economic fundamentals don’t mean the same thing for them that they do for us. We mean jobs, personal debt, fixing the housing market and mortgages, etc. What they mean is making the banks solvent. So they have been lending to banks via the ZIRP, allowing them to cook their books, charge fees to customers, speculate in bubbles in stocks and commodities. And if Americans are saving more (to pay down debt as pointed out in a comment above, not investing (in the ongoing bubbles)) and consuming less than our high unemployment isn’t going anywhere. The only possibility for growth is to increase exports, but with the rest of the world falling back into recession there is no one to export to. That is what Geithner means by rebalancing growth, shifting to exports. But that is the same idea everyone else has. Contract on the domestic side and export for growth. If everyone is belt-tightening at home, then as I said above there is no one to export to. Elites around the world are pursuing strategies that will fail and will send the world economy into depression.
I have been saying this for more than a year. I thought that 2011 would be a particularly nasty year for the economy in which we could well see the return of depression. I thought too that Team Obama’s plan was to keep things together until after the mid-term elections. But markets and the financial system have been taking a lot of shots recently. And August and September were when our last two crises hit. So things could start falling apart before the elections.
That’s funny, MM, I have a similar reaction to Christina Romer, also. I know she’s been a voice for better policy inside the Administration, but the least she could do, when she’s representing is to not be so damned happy over an economic policy that has left more than 30,000,000 people unemployed, or involuntarily under-employed. Every time I see her, her manner makes one think what in hell has this woman got to be so happy about?
And, then, of course, I immediately think, oh yeah, “she’s alright Jack,” she’s got a high-salaried Government job from an Administration that’s willing to pay her to smile at the public and give advice inside, but not willing to pass a Federal Jobs Guarantee (FJG) for everyone who wants to work but can’t find a job in a private sector whose current priority is to sit on its savings, or engage in financial speculation, rather than to invest in productive economic activity.
This Government justifies that by saying that the United States is running out of money, thereby exposing either their gross ignorance, or their abnormal mendacity, since a Government sovereign in its own currency, never has to ask “How are we going to pay for it?”
I agree Hugh, and I really like your analysis. I also think that if our Government were to expand demand here by spending on the many, many, things we need here at home, then the desire of other nations to grow exports would work nicely to let them get happy exporting to us in return for the USD they seem to desire so much.
We, on the other hand, especially since we can leave it to them to send cheap consumer goods in return for our electronic USD “paper,” could devote our efforts to work converting the energy foundations of our economy, improving our educational system, re-building our infrastructure, and doing all the other things we ought to be doing in order to create real wealth here. What a great arrangement that would be. To make it happen all we need is to keep increasing Government spending on those necessary things mentioned above, while our friends overseas not only send us cheap consumer goods, but also help us to avoid inflation by bleeding off some of our demand dollars to pay for their exports.
While this would certainly be a “beggar thy neighbor” policy, on our part, they can end the “beggaring” at any time, simply by ending their incredibly stupid austerity policies and expanding the supply of their own currencies to lift their own domestic demand. So, if we drive our economy toward prosperity by expanding Government spending on the right things for a change, whether they move toward prosperity too, is strictly up to them.
Of course, all this assumes that our own decision makers will be wise/moral enough to forget about Peter G. Peterson, Herbert Hoover, and all the other deficit hawks who confuse the economics of households, corporations, and other sub-national entities with the economics of nation-states sovereign in their currency. Unfortunately, I wouldn’t bet a plugged nickel on that right now, given Obama’s track record, and that of his economics team.
Scarecrow, Why the question mark in your title?
cursed Mayan calendar!
I am no expert or even “well-read” …
BUT … EU protests (riots) will continue and frankly, despair is setting in in the US. The psychic precursor to a *real* depression.
The game is not sustainable. Endless war spending at 2x annually what was provided for a onetime stimulus. No taxes on the obscenely wealthy. Billions (really?) in dividends from BP for the casino players while they have a congressional-authorized cap of $75 million on liability and are proving the incompentence of the MOTU (and breaking the illusion of ‘entitlement’ by superiority) everyday?
Firing teachers. And cancelling SS for everyone else to pay for decisions made by the untaxed elite.
There’s more than *just* economics and G20 politics in play here.
People will notice when one sick corporation is destroying the worldwide ecosystem.
I’ve never quibbled with ya, ever.
But the failure of the admin is the failure to create jobs.
Millions of them.
Fast.
And along with LOSS of jobs from BP Disaster, this is the end of the Obama Admin.
I won’t even go into the failure to defend the Flotilla.
Obama’s unelectable, due to lack of jobs.
The Oil Disaster is gonna add to his unelectibility.
Because of loss of jobs.
I don’t mind losing him, in the dem party.
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Yeah, notice . . . . I’m with every keystroke you made.
And we are gonna die, sooner.
But I love your posit.
Bless us all.
You just came into the ER with massive, crushing, sub-sternal chest pain.
The doctor orders IV morphine, oxygen, gives you some aspirin to chew on and a nitro pill under your tongue.
6 hours later it is confirmed. You had a massive heart attack that could of killed you. In further discussions it is discovered that you live on Doritos, Red Bull, and 7 layer burritos with extra sour cream.
The doctor suggests that you undertake lifestyle modifications in order to live to see a ripe old age, in other words diet and exercise.
You blanche and say “What?!? Diet and exercise? Just give me some morphine to take home!”
Do I grasp your general argument?
No, wrong analogy. Think leeches.
A ?? at the end is often a sign that I hadn’t figured out what the title should be.
It’s a pretty good title, but the question mark seems rhetorical.
The investor class (versus the producer class) has made a confidence game out of debt long ago. It’s time to call them on it. The investor class incrementally created this mass defrauding system and tied it into our government coffers. They like it just fine. Countries in the Euro should walk away from it rather than have their sovereignty subverted. The US needs to restructure its system fundamentally including breaking up the key players in the fraud and installing fraud/audit controls. This is not rocket science. Meanwhile, the producer class is best off abstaining from the Casino just as a start.
I don’t disagree. We and the Administration are talking past each other. They think the road to growth and recovery lies through propping up Wall Street. We think it lies through job creation on Main Street.
Agreed. Although exports aren’t the only route to growth. Government can increase spending to growth the economy and bring back jobs. It’s just that they seem to prefer the shortcut of giving government funds straight to the banksters.
We have to start any discussion with basic moral questions. Our health care debate should have started with the question; Is health care a right or a commodity? Our economic crisis must also start with a moral question of whether our nation’s money supply should be used for the common good or for private profit. If you believe in the common good, then full employment should be our number one priority. We should build schools, pay for a universal health care system, fix bridges and sewer systems.
Hi mm, You bet. It’s called Government spending for the public purpose, and it’s also called fiscal responsibility; and cutting that spending to achieve some arbitrary deficit numbers by a particular time, or cutting to achieve some arbitrary public debt-to-GDP ratio number is the height of fiscal irresponsibility, the Peter G. Peterson Foundation and the President’s National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform, notwithstanding.