I don’t know how any sentient being could miss the obvious signs that if the gods care at all, they’re either testing us or not on our side. So its strange to hear the President of the United States tell an anguished, worried people facing destroyed livelihoods and desperate for leadership and a plan of action that prayer and faith are our best hope for stopping an ongoing catastrophe and preventing the next.
Let’s start from the end:
The oil spill is not the last crisis America will face. This nation has known hard times before and we will surely know them again. What sees us through – what has always seen us through – is our strength, our resilience, and our unyielding faith that something better awaits us if we summon the courage to reach for it. Tonight, we pray for that courage. We pray for the people of the Gulf. And we pray that a hand may guide us through the storm towards a brighter day. Thank you, God Bless You, and may God Bless the United States of America.
Does anyone believe this catastrophe continues because of a lack of faith in a better future, a shortage of American strength and resilience?
Why don’t we start by assuming the America people can understand basic physics. They intuitively grasp that we can’t keep punching holes into highly pressurized formations three miles beneath the ocean and not expect at least one of them to blow up with catastrophic consequences and then be the devil to stop. They understand that if corporations engage in inherently dangerous but highly profitable activities, they’ll inevitably cut safety corners, ignore risks and cause a disaster that kills people and causes massive damages. People get that.
And now they can see and touch and smell the nauseating reality that the destruction this causes can be beyond anything they’ve been told, anything they’re willing to accept. They know they’ve been lied to, and it hasn’t stopped. So it would be helpful if the President stopped it.
In the understatement of the decade, the CEO of Exxon-Mobile told Congress today that "when these things happen, we are not well equipped to deal with them. . . . There will be damages occur."
So any statement a President or any leader would put before a public whose intelligence and judgment they respected would have at least these two parts:
(1) Here’s the plan for fixing the immediate crisis, and here are the risks it might not work and what we’ll do about that.
(2) And here’s my challenge for the future: "We don’t have to take this. But if we want something different, we have some very hard work to do, and we need to get on with it. Here is what we must do, and here are the people and the failed ideas that stand in our way. We have to fight them if we want a different future. And that’s what I propose to do; here’s my plan, and I want your support."
I don’t know why our President can’t say it that simply, but apparently it’s not his style, or not what he wants or believes, or maybe he and his advisers just don’t know what to say or do. But someone needs to tell him, and now, that calling the nation to faith and prayer is not a substitute for a plan and it’s not leadership. It’s a sop.
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The President’s Address to the Nation on the BP Oil Spill (transcript)
The President opened by reminding us we’re fighting three wars: an economic one against the deepest recession in 75 years; a military one against those we classify as terrorists; and a technological one against our dependence of energy sources that are inherently dangerous to extract, use, or dispose of.
What he didn’t say is that we’re making little or no progress in any of them, and that his Administration has virtually given up on the first and struggling with what to do about the second. It is any wonder he was so timid about the third?
He correctly tells us a drilling blowout at these depths is "testing the limits of human technology," but he still assures us — based on what? — we’ll soon capture 90 percent of the escaping oil. Does anyone believe that? And what of the oil already out there? He promises only that "we’ll fight this with everything we’ve got, for as long as it takes," and then help the Gulf and its people recover.
He tells us that from the beginning "the federal government has been in charge of the largest environmental cleanup effort in our nation’s history." Residents of the Gulf know this is false. They know BP is still in charge, still allocating resources, and the locals are furious at BP’s arrogance, secrecy and inattentiveness.
He says they have thousands of people and boats at work; locals know BP controls most of them, just as it’s deployed zillions of booms, but badly deployed and attended to both. He’s "authorized" 17,000 National Guard; locals know many haven’t been deployed.
The President could have acknowledged these failings and the justified anger and explained how he’ll change that. He didn’t. Instead he told locals to call if there’s a problem. But locals have been calling — to BP’s call centers — with little effect.
It will be interesting to hear local reactions to this part of the speech. My guess is many will feel let down. They should.
More on the energy challenge tomorrow.
John Chandley



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With all due respect Scarecrow, are you seriously asking those questions about Obama? You still don’t know why he isn’t doing anything to interfere with BP? Oh, my.
Telling people to pray right now is like telling the nation to drop dead.
Of course I have an opinion on that. It’s not the point.
Amen brother. Thinking that there is a god (small ‘g’ intentional), and that the precise mathematical relationships between elementary particle is on our side-say what-makes as much sense as thinking that the dolphins are really aliens and are sending messages back to their home planet via carrier pigeons. I think we are seeing the last act of a desperate man. Hell, he’d play to the devil (just a figure of speech) if it would get him campaign contributions and votes. Obama is simply a fraud and a one act pony. We won’t be fooled again.
OK. I understand your point and you ask very pertinent questions of Obama.
But, isn’t it obvious he doesn’t want to do anything to interfere with the plans of the boys on Wall St.?
My guess is Obama believes the current basic structure of key industries is sound, whether its Wall Street or oil companies or insurance companies, that each needs better oversight, that his team can competently provide that (and people like them will always be in charge), and that with some money here and nudging there and persistent oversight they can alter the long-run trajectory — and that if they keep at it, everyone will eventually agree this is the correct strategy. It’s easy to disagree at each point, or several, or all, and at some point the whole efforts fails, and comes off as being delusional or dishonest.
That’s just one interpretation, taking stuff at face value, but more or less consistent with what he says and does. But it’s just one. And saying “he doesn’t want to interfere with plans . . .” is almost the same.
I wonder if the third party that will be in charge of dispersing the BP cash will be the Blackstone Group again?
That’s a very good question. They haven’t explained what this means, though it might mean some concept like a court-appointed bankruptcy examiner. There are obviously some firms that would be seriously conflicted.
A sop alright. I’ve kind of gotten used to shriners and presidents throwing a god into every speech. But that a “hand may guide us through the storm to a brighter day,” please! Sounds spookily more like the “invisible [and munificent] hand” of the free market that he is alluding to. David Axelrod and Robert Gibbs, please come out and take a bow. Are you guys trying to parody GWB?
Not to offend the religious, but God has never came to the rescue yet in any major disaster in the worlds history, that can be proven. Even parting of the Red Sea is a story without proof.
I’m sure many have been praying that oil didn’t come ashore, that it didn’t effect the fisheries, and that they’d get the damn well plugged.
Many others are praying that tourists will gladly come to the beaches, and take a chance there no oil on them.
There is nothing wrong with praying or being religious, but thinking God is on Your side is a call to be committed.
They keep telling us that God is on this Countries side, but look what we have faced in only a couple hundred years. There are countries that have been around for thousands of years, that haven’t had the bad luck this one has.
Maybe we are just asking to much of Him, and He’s getting sick of hearing us ask for so many things.
This is typical Obama. His words wildly at variance with his actions. And his actions those of the Blue Dog status quo corporatist he is.
Obama made it very clear tonight that the lying is not going to stop. Like the scorpion in the fable, he will act as he acts, and lie as he lies, because that is his nature.
Beware what you ask of the gods for they may not give you what you want but what you need.
(OK, that’s just me trying to sound properly oracular.) *g*
Loved HP’s headlines tonight after the speech, total panning of its pathetic reality.
Thanks so much for this (and other) analysis, judgement and plea for sanity and responsibility.
Loved the following from you:
So any statement a President or any leader would put before a public whose intelligence and judgment they respected would have at least these two parts:
(1) Here’s the plan for fixing the immediate crisis, and here are the risks it might not work and what we’ll do about that.
(2) And here’s my challenge for the future: “We don’t have to take this. But if we want something different, we have some very hard work to do, and we need to get on with it. Here is what we must do, and here are the people and the failed ideas that stand in our way. We have to fight them if we want a different future. And that’s what I propose to do; here’s my plan, and I want your support.”
I don’t know why our President can’t say it that simply, but apparently it’s not his style, or not what he wants or believes, or maybe he and his advisers just don’t know what to say or do. But someone needs to tell him, and now, that calling the nation to faith and prayer is not a substitute for a plan and it’s not leadership. It’s a sop.
So, SJC, what’s your best guess on the “style, wants, believes, don’t know what to say or do…..” dilemma options.
It would be so easy for me to conclude that he didn’t do the steps 1 and 2 because he’s incapable of it, doesn’t want to do it, and really doesn’t care because he’s so locked in to the basic lie/scam premises.
I’d really like another alternative. Does anyone have one for me?
Blessings.
His entire campaign was nothing but carefully tailored sops to constituencies he intended to betray, and that was good enough for FDL, why the change of heart now? He’s still the Least Worst, right?
Bush really believed but obama is just taking page out of bush book.
Thank you. After your 34th repetition of the same comment, I finally see the light.
What I wouldn’t give for leadership that doesn’t think praying is a positive, proactive solution to problems.
Here’s a different religious take on the oil spill: It’s judgment. We have treated creation poorly. We have treated one another poorly. We have been greedy and spoiled and have thought that we deserve to drive anywhere we want at anytime we want without having to consider the consequences of where all that oil comes from. Now the consequences have come to find us.
Faith can play a role in getting through this crisis, but it won’t happen because some invisible hand hears our cries and reaches down and delivers us. Faith can deliver us insomuch as it leads us to repentance and the way we go about doing things in our society. (Of course, you don’t have to be religious to repent and turn in a new direction – but religion does provide a wealth of resources and examples for doing such a thing).
Speaking of the Red Sea, in Galbraith’s book on financial bubbles, one was to finance the draining of the Red Sea to recover all the goodies the Egyptians left at the bottom in pursuing the Jews across it. I’ll go look & see which country that scheme was hatched & when.
Amen. You know I think we have all settled on the idea that the only true “fix” to this gusher is to drill a relief well. The President never mentioned a relief well, why it takes so long (I don’t know) nor what that does. Also, he seemed to establish some sort of web of clean up efforts, all under different authorities, it is what people hate about the federal government to begin with, a net of agencies and red tape, why no exert some unitary control here? The portion on renewable energy and “the future” might as well not have been in there for what it offered. This was a trailer to a movie that I know I don’t want to see, prepare to be disappointed ‘Star Wars: The Phantom Menace’ style disappointment.
In the US, no one can get elected to any office without at least claiming to be a believer in prayer.
Bush only pretends to believe.
Thank you Captain Obvious. :-)
Coming from this President, who has always struck me as somewhat ambiguous in terms of the degree of his religious devotion (and, I DO NOT mean that as any sort of criticism), the exhortation to prayer struck an odd note, didn’t it?
It did. There was just a bit too much of it for my taste. Sure, he probably needs to mouth the words, “God bless America”, but he made it sound like prayer was something we could all do to help ameliorate the situation.
It was an underlying theme not just a note. What I actually got from it was our only hope is to pray our way out of this… Normally, prayer is there to offer comfort or maybe a little luck, but it almost seemed like one of his “solutions” to combat this gusher.
DOREMUS35,
If rightwing fascist lunatics make Sarah Palin the GOP nominee then Obama will win reelection in 2012 by default.
“…something better awaits…”
What, more of Obama’s neoliberal agenda? More CRAP awaits!
I agree with you.
That said, I kind of went off the deep end last night there at the end.
Aside from feeling like that whole speech was delivered as if there was no internet and that news didn’t travel at the speed of light and we haven’t all been watching this disaster and all responses to it closely from day 1, the faith and prayer references at the end left me thinking that the Gulf is dead. It isn’t coming back, ever.
Mr ‘I’ll Always Tell the American Public the Truth Even When It’s Not Pleasant’ chickened out.
Reminded me of how my mother-in-law who when confronted by things she can’t or won’t do anything about will always ‘put it in God’s hands’ because that’s the quickest road to ‘it was meant to be’.
One of the (many) problems with the ‘pray’ meme is that nothing that’s come out of BP’s or the administration’s mouths to date has been anything other than transparent lies & propaganda. To be urged to pray on top of that record is like a double slap in the face.
Via the response to the transcript:
The reason to not be timid, a bit late now of course, is that this may much more serious overt ramifications. Left unchecked, so that cleanup is only addressed after it makes landfall, this will kill animals by the millions and wipe out livelihoods for people living on the coasts as well. This is now a lose-lose situation which requires more than vague promises to bring back the economies that will be effected. Honestly the economy should be the last thing to worry about when toxicity to the ecosystem is the order of the day. Promising to make jobs, even when there is no environmental hazard, hasn’t worked very well so far and really can’t be taken too seriously when the effects may last for years to come. People can’t see the real effects of the continued and fruitless economic bailouts but they can easily understand death and destruction of habitat.
Scarecrow@5,
You should consider the second and most obvious choice, that Obama is in way over his head. Clearly, this President is in over his head just as the last President was. People assumed that Obama was a smart man, not simply because of his degrees obviously, but because, unlike his predecessor, he could string together complete whole sentencs and make coherent thoughts, especially during the campaign………People should realize by now that the truth is this: Barack Obama is every bit as dim-witted as Bush ever was, he has made the same choices, kept the same policies in place and many of the same players who were complicit in either current or past disasters. In society’s narrow and idiotic definition, his law degree from Harvard only makes him an educated man, but certainly not an INTELLIGENT ONE…………….
As I mentioned downstairs, I was talking to my 92 year old friend, Nez, after the speech – and by the way, she was my Sunday School teacher when I was two – and she and I were talking in the same vein that some of our commenters. We have felt that he was using all that prayery speech as a way to reach out to a particular section of the citizenry. When a person hasn’t really come across as a particularly devoted faith based personality, to use all this God talk turns some people off. The little hypocrite red flag jumps up. Say what you mean and mean what you say, Mr. President. That’s my prayer for you.
Agree with everything you typed & would add: Not only is he in over his head, he doesn’t even realize it because he is so far into the corp pocket.
If a truly devout person, and there are precious few of those, recommended prayer then it could be taken as a solace. When a politician, one of the least devout professions around, makes it a centerpiece it is time to put one’s head between their knees and kiss their ass good-bye.
Gee, W managed dog whistles to the religious parts of his audience without managing to offend those of little faith.
I don’t think it’s that he is dumb, he was editor of harvard law review, and to me “dumb” people don’t get that, but that his leadership or management style just does not work on a national scale. He has this hope that people will come together and give and take, but really its the same sides that have always been taking that continue to get everything. His ultimate problem is that he is 100% unwilling to make the hard choices that need to be made, and 100% unwilling to do anything that would rock the boat of the status quo.
Besides, isn’t O a Muslim? *g*
Thanks, Scarecrow. I don’t expect anything but blahblahblah from politicians anymore, so reading a sturdy meaningful alternative is like fresh air, like remembering how it could sound, if….
But with Obama, even if he’d said all that and more, we would have no reason to believe him. He lies, bald-faced. Jon Stewart had a fun bit on that last night, which I found on HuffPo after further depressing myself by reading reader comments on the speech.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/16/stewart-critiques-obama-f_n_613937.html
Well, whenever he pulled out that whistle, it made me sick to my stomach because I didn’t see him as a man of faith either. I did find him offensive, but then maybe I don’t fall into the Ye Of Little Faith pool. *g*
Getting to be editor of the Harvard Law Review does not necessarily imply intelligence. What it does imply for sure is the ability to suck up to the PTB. Ivy Leaguers are particularly superb at that. Which is not necessarily a good qualifier for leading in a crisis.
Where does this undying optimism come from?
The American can do spirit ?
We have no idea and neither do they of the damage done a mile below sea level.
Unrepairable, unstoppable and a growing menace through scouring. There could be ruptures in the casing leaking out into the thick layer of mud and like a good pot of spaghetti sauce with the steam bubbles popping up here and there, the oil travels under the muck until it just bubbles up maybe miles away.
60,000 barrels a day 2,520,000 gallons a day last reported from the visible part of the oil eruption. The mind reels but what if there is no can do to the blowout. The relief wells could blow too or if the actual integrity is shot we may lack the equipment or know how to put Humpty Dumpty back together again. The hour is getting late and prayer may be the only tool left, after all else fails.
Other than that have a great day.
I found W offensive on many levels, but I missed all the religious dog whistles because I’m so oblivious to that stuff. However, no one could have missed it last night.
I could agree with that, but you do have to have some requisite intelligence to actually get to that point. If he is dumb it’s not in the logic or thinking department but rather just naive or at worst sycophantic.
Righty-o, Felix. It might have also been all the more obvious because of the look on the President’s face. His eyes did not burn with compassion or conviction. Those little nonverbal tells can be perceived by just about anyone.
I’m not sure whose undying optimism you are referring to. The CIC, or FDL?
Indeed Bush set the bar so low that Curly Howard would have looked like Einstein by comparison. I still think we’re better off than we would have been under McCain but I’m sick of voting for the one I think well be less terrible.
Mr President, as far as your speach went last night, your appeal to the big Skydaddy was a TOUCHDOWN!
WHOA….
“And we pray that a hand may guide us through the storm towards a brighter day.”
Next step: prayer vigil on the Capitol steps. Mass prayer meetings across America.
Presidential impotence is not a pretty sight.
Its sorta been for me Mama sayin’ “you want oil? I’ll gave ya oil!”
Better start prayin’ to Mama and tellin’ her “we’ll be good!” Imean, if you want to look at it that way instead of the biggest cock-up mankind has made since the dawn of our history.
You know all that long, pointed and destructive things the boys keep using on Mama……….
Someone last night said Obama looked scared and tired.I bet he knows there is absolutely nothing anyone can do to stop this thing. Nothing.
B.P, Halliburton and Transocean have unleashed Armageddon and now there is no stopping it.
“Faith” is a personal thing. Societal servitude to energy corporations who monopolize a commodity and want to perpetuate an inherently inefficient energy delivery system and “use,” of one form of stored potential energy has little to do with faith and prayer and religion. Faith, hope and prayer to get through difficult times is meditation…
Difficult times brought on by the myopic self interest of corporate aristocrats and their corporate shells lusting for “endless profit” at the expense of Life and Liberty “is man made.” The institution of slavery is man made. In America slaves where deprived of life and liberty for the benefit of a “slave owning class” who did not want to change and end exploitation of people for their myopic self interest. The slave owner’s mantra was, “it cost to much,” was countered by the religious principles of reasonable people who realized servitude to a master is not Liberty of freedom.
Look at the cost to America today as a result of an instilled addiction to one form of stored potential energy and the inability to change after years of wealth extraction. America is brainwashed and in a state of servitude. All the prayer in the world ain’t gonna change that fact and the corporate lobbyist certainly continue to exert undo influence on the political process as Thomas Jefferson predicted! What is the course of action America? A war on Energy or a War to commandeer resources for the benefit of corporate profit, like when BP overthrew the democratically elected leader of Iran back in the 50′s, Iraq and now Afghanistan with a trillion $ in resources??? Meanwhile BP continues to piss in our Wheaties, lie and manipulate the obvious while we have no choice like an addicted crack whore with a terminal case of the runs..
Carebear stares into the gulf that wash away the taint with rainbows and good thoughts…
Remember that President Obama was speaking primarily to the red state right wing Christians who voted for John and Sarah, hence the references to the greater power.
Does anyone know or have reliable links to the possibility of blowing up this hole. According to Deborah Solomon’s interview in Sunday’s Times, the interviewee said Russia used nuclear bombs to stop 4 runaway wells. He suggested conventional explosives. He also suggested that BP avoids this solution for pecuniary reasons. I suppose there’s a risk that if the explosion doesn’t work, the flow is uncontained and uncontainable. That seems to be the case today. Is blowing up the well a viable option or is Obama doing all he can, all anyone can, which is nearly nothing?
He tours the Gulf with Haley Barbour and other officials who essentially interfere with him talking to real people. He is more comfortable with the priveleged class. He won’t sit down and have a beer and a heart to heart with working people because he doesn’t relate. He has no common ground.
Oil companies and the government have no tools for repairing a broken well pipe at 5000 ft. under sea level. Drilling permits should not have been issued until there was a viable mechanism to deal with this contingency. Because no one recognized this risk among the thousands of people in MMS, NOAA, EPA, and the Coast Guard, or because it was recognized but suppressed, we look like fools today.
Much of our government is totally ineffective:
We are mired in a war in Afghanistan that the Soviets could not win.
Our FBI couldn’t prevent 9-11. There were many people in criminal cases falsely convicted based on shoddy FBI science.
The justice department doesn’t prosecute monopolistic practices
The CIA missed predicting 9-11, and no WMDs in Iraq
The NOAA, Dept. of Interior, EPA, amd Coast Guard couldn’t protect us from the Deepwater catastrophe. We didn’t learn from the Exxon Valdeez because it was in a remote area.
Illegal drugs are still flowing into our Country.
It’s as if all the corruption has brought our Country to its knees and now we can’t function.
I think he’s just throwing in the towel and quitting with his prayer hr. speech. Translation for that speech was, Were f*cked it’s in God’s hands now folks cause it’s obvious we ( meaning him and BP sure don’t have a clue at what to do next.)
I think the most inspiring part of the speech was when he said something to the effect that we don’t know where we’re going, or how to get there, but we’ll get there, don’t worry. But, pray, just in case.
I was watching something the other day in which a guy who participated in a voodoo ceremony said that it made him uncomfortable because it was “superstition” and he has to answer to “the man upstairs and his son”. This was totally serious and without irony. This is what we’re up against in this country.
“he is 100% unwilling to make the hard choices that need to be made, and 100% unwilling to do anything that would rock the boat of the status quo.”
Remember that when he goes after Social Security.
Well we’ve seen that is not a choice that even needs to be made, plus it again goes back to his devotion to status quo powers. If he gets a Republican Congress it will be austerity all-day everyday.
I said earlier that it was Obama’s disconnected attitude in the speech that made me more worried for our country.
What if spending the days down at the Gulf and talking to scientists and learning that there really Is Nothing that can stop the spill, what if that is why he was so disconnected. He couldn’t really get up there last night and say There Is No Fix for the current Gusher. When people were calling this Obama’s Katrina, they didn’t realize what an understatement that was. What if this is Obama’s Cherynoble. You know the scientists who realized “oh, shit” and then died pretty soon after? Only Obama has to live with this long slow oh shit moment for the rest of his presidency. What if?
Yes, in its leaders.
Very disappointing speech.Nothing concrete,except someone new for MMS. He could have done simple
things like requiring all Gulf coast workers to
wear respirators and haz-mat suits. That would cut future medical expenses (looked at only as a bottom
line item). Also,I am sure everyone noticed how all
the Oil Companies had the same “safety” plan (smacks
of collusion;where is anti-trust on this?)
The exhortation to “PRAY!” struck me as Obama believing that talking to those ‘gun’s and god folks who people the south’, he needed to pour a little Jesus Sauce on this confection.
Pandering.
The whole speech was pandering.
It’s what he does.
Did anyone else notice the conspicuous absence of the word NUCLEAR in the clean energy rhetoric? Did the guy feel like he was going to jinx the country if he got too close to promising SAFE nuclear technology or would the immediate reference, so close to an ONGOING catastrophe, really sour his sales pitch? How many tax-dollars do you plan on still giving away to the energy cartels for THAT dangerous technology? Where will the liability lie for that risk Mr. President? Tell us how well self-regulation, or excuse me, toothless Federal regulation will keep our population centers from worrying about contamination or improbable disaster. Maybe God or Mother earth will hear your prayers and decide our selling out isn’t worthy of a NUCLEAR smiting. Then again, probably not.
Yeah, that’s what I think. The Republicans will put up someone who looks even worse, altho I don’t think it will be Palin. She’s just keeping her hat in the ring for the coin, no way she puts herself in the ring for a fight.
We need untainted patriots, not prayer.
BTW, Remember Rahm’s indirect connection to BP via Greenberg?
I’ll refresh your memory.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/06/rahm-emanuel-bp-gul-oil-spill.html
I think the “keep your federal hands off my medicare” crowd will be in the streets when the fix to Social Security comes to the fore. The IOU’s put in when Democratic and Republican Congresses and Presidents raped the Social Security Fund are the only debt we can cancel that won’t affect the status of the US treasury notes.
Given all Obama’s corporatist backroom deals, it seems like he was praying for Adam Smith’s invisible hand to go and save him from all his sell-outs. With Obama’s prayer talk he did seem to be trying to channel Bush, just Obama isn’t good at the prayer thing and it just makes him look like he’s engaged in doing insincere CYA.
God will probably do what the lobbyists say to do. Like everybody else.
This is because of the war profiteering. Also, Irak and Afghanistan are used to impose a police state controlled by a cabal of national security neo-cons. Everything is secret including the double agents used for more terrorism, such as Ali Mohamed and David Headley. The neo-cons promised us long wars, we just did not believe them.
The FBI, such as Coleen Rowley, Able Danger and even Alex Jones did discover plenty of Terrorist conspirators. The FBI agents were overruled by their superiors for national security reasons. “Bin Laden Determined To Strike…” did predict it. The CIA said no WMD’s but Cheney pulled a few False Flag ops, the Niger Forgeries, the Habbush Letter, and many others.
Do not blame the Coast Guard. But blame EPA and MMS for embracing corporate terrorism.
Gotta keep that southern base in the electoral loop. They loves them some Jeezuz.
Adam Smith’s invisible hand…
Excellent article Scarecrow.
As I said last night; this man has no imagination or vision. He is emotionally vapid. I almost wish I could believe him to be evil so I could hate him. But how do you hate a lame animal?
What a terrible disappointment. The country, the world is in for the long hard time and most of us may die.
Once they realize what’s happening and get active, a bit of common ground will appear and perhaps maybe then we can broaden it. After all, their instincts are correct on that single point even though it makes them look like jerks because it is so blatantly self-centered. Maybe?
I’m kinda with you on this and the total lack of the truth about what’s happening a mile and more down brought this to my mind weeks ago. Like I stated on another thread this morning, I was just hoping for some true official information. If it is unstoppable, geez, tell us.
Obama is s*** out of ideas, s*** out of any kind of leadership capability, Obama is SOL.
More pandering to the right to invoke god and prayer. I mean: seriously? C’mon, those who are religious have been praying very hard already, I’m sure (coming from a super fundie family – even tho they hate BHO – I know for a fact that they’ve been praying their butts off about this and for the people that live in the region). So, WTF good does BHO’s exhortation do? None. at. all.
This is like rope a dope or something. The Stepford POTUS. Pres Cardboard. Yoo hoo, anyone home??? Knock knock…
Really the one & only thing that BHO had going for him was an ability to give a good speech. It appears that even that one skill has fled him. We are really home & hosed.
Last night I said that my only response was to curl up in the fetal position and several others suggested thumb sucking. Still sucking on my thumb this morning….
Heaven forbid!(just kidding about the heaven part) I agree completely. When Pelosi took any thought of criminal investigations against Bush off the table, I left the Democratic Party after over 40 years. And when Obama voted for the retroactive immunity of the telecommunications industry in violation of the 4th Amendmentand and then placed his hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution thereby committing perjury-and they got Clinton for a bit of a romp with Monica, well I knew the jig was up. But the thought of voting for McCain and Palin was like voting for the Bogart character in the Caine Mutiny and the evil witch in the Wizard of OZ (that is actually rather demeaning to the witch), well what was my option? The very thought of Palin in the government at all at any level would force me to sprint to the polls and vote several times for Obama. American politics has sadly come down to voting for the less destructive hack politician who will gut the Constitution only a lot, not completely and let the American people have just enough of the essentials of life to keep voting them into office. Not a pretty picture.
Yesterday
I heard him say:
“BP must pay.
Now, let’s pray the
oil away”.
I believe this is exactly what’s going on. So, what does Obama do? He runs for cover by appointing a czar, which is his way of attempting to insulate himself from further lightning shock with a lightning rod as the oil keeps gushing, the aquatic life and the birds keep dying slow agonizing deaths, and the hurricanes stir and spread the dark stinking death far inland.
Given what we now know, that’s the reality we face under the best of circumstances.
An honorable and courageous leader would have told us the truth, instead of doing everything possible to hide it as he offers us a hackneyed and trite empty prayer.
An honorable and courageous leader would have assumed responsibility for the cleanup by ordering BP to stop using a dispersant and would have assembled an army and navy of the unemployed and the people whose livelihoods have been ruined by this disaster to clean it up. There are at least fifteen million unemployed who would love a job. Give them respirators and HAZMAT suits, put them to work, and pay them a decent wage with health insurance and they would create a chance for miracles to happen.
Instead, we get to watch miles of untended booms failing to protect the shoreline or trapping oil between the boom and the shore. People who try to help are turned away by BP thugs or the Coast Guard and reporters cannot even get FAA clearance to fly over the affected areas to visually record what’s there.
This president is an incompetent coward and liar. He hasn’t done anything except to devise a plan to insulate himself from criticism. He needs to resign now for the good of the country. With each passing day, he does nothing but inflict irreparable damage to everything he touches.
Coming from such a hollow, cowardly, and deeply insincere bought-and-paid-for corporate shill, Obama’s prayer was an insult to God.
Everytime I see him or hear his voice, I shudder and want to take a shower.
Hey! Here we have the stalwart, yet epically failed, progressive plan for energizing citizen governance and elite accountability laid out eloquently, if accidentally.
GO TEAM!
One would assume that sporkovat is just taking his cues from the rest of the progressive “movement.” Saying and doing the same thing over and over to no effect.
Anyone have a petition for me to sign? Lately I’ve had a hankering for my name to end up in a Congressional aide’s trash can.
It’s not quite the same sort of useless, but perhaps reading an “open-letter” would satiate my appetite until lunchtime? Surely there are dozens of those floating around today after yesterday’s display of Presidential prerogatives.
Look! Sarah Palin!
OK, that’s enough. You can’t possibly be serious. Getting to be editor of the Harvard Law Review indisputably requires brains and creativity and superb analytical and writing skills. You either have no clue or are being deliberately obtuse.
You’re mistaking one’s ability to be obsequious for some baseline of intelligence. Pavlovian responses to rewards confer no necessary intelligence. They’re just baser instincts.
This just gets worse and worse. Some of you want Obama to just fix it, to borrow a SNL phrase. Some of you want him to admit that there is no fix. Most of you are offended that a man who has attended church all of his adult life would reference God in summing up his speech. Folks, can we just admit that the man has been handed a boatload of horrible problems that have no easy solutions? Somehow George Bush the elder did not get pinned with responsiblity for cleaning up after Exxon Valdez, yet when Obama intervenes to put some order into BP’s efforts he is suddenly saddled with responsibility for the whole thing. It is evident to me that BP, for all its massive faults and fraud and history of ineptitude, remains the one player out there equipped to ultimately solve this thing. I find it prudent for Obama to use them, while asserting authority over tnose efforts. And why has not one person on this blog mentioned that he will be requiring BP to create a huge escrow fund to ensure that money remains to pay for this mess! Jesus H. Christ. Give the guy a break.
This might not be the best time to pray to God for anything seeing that he just destroyed a giant statue of his son with a lightning bolt.
You mean except for the front-paged articles and Seminal diaries that have frequently discussed this very thing?
Those must have been created by robots, because clearly “not one person” has ever mentioned it.
I don’t want Obama to fix anything other than cleaning out the EPA, the MMS, and getting rid of Ken Salizar, and bringing Van Jones back in, and giving him some authority. Those things are fully within his control, and all of them would at least indicate that Obama recognizes there’s a problem with our energy policy, and that he can actually do something about it.
With respect to the spill specifically, BP should be entirely out of the decision making process. They are not. Further, the entirety of the U.S. naval capacity to skim and corral oil in the gulf should be being utilized. We’re not for a lack of boats, they’re just far off harassing goat herders in foreign lands, rather than protecting our coastline.
I have a hard time with the, “Obama’s just been dealt a shitty hand” line of reasoning. It’s be believable if it weren’t for the fact that he repeatedly goes all-in holding a 2/7-off-suit. He’s either trying to lose, or he doesn’t know how to play.
You are answering a question I did not ask. The question I asked was why, in the litany of Obama-bashing comments, on this blog, nobody mentioned the escrow requirement, which is clearly a very big deal. You obfuscate by citing to references by other sources, which I never gainsayed. Back to your corner, my brother. Oh, and its Salazar.
I suggest you familiarize yourself with the National Response Framework (which wasn’t around when Bush the Elder was in office) – specifically ESF #10. The Obama administration IS RESPONSIBLE! It’s up to the President to deal with “Incidents of National Signficance,” not to have the President whine and try and run away from his responsibilities that he was elected to fulfill.
Also as far as making BP pay – he’s actually covering for BP. He’s already promised the British PM that he wouldn’t undermine the value of BP. It’s two conflicting things to say that you’ll have BP pay for all the damage, while at the same time saying you’ll limit what has to be done to BP so that they don’t get liquidated. Obama could seize BP’s assets, but he’s too busy protecting JP Morgan’s ownership of BP stock to threaten that their stock would lose money.
I’d say largely, because it’s not a big deal if it doesn’t have any specific details. It’s just a platitude for feigned accountability until then.
Oh, and it’s not Salazar; it’s long-time-oil-Shillazar.
Yes, it’s a very big deal on how Obama is trying to limit BP’s damages.
President Obama has identified the cause of the problem. We need priests to do an annual blessing of the oil drilling rigs.
Oh, and maybe we could get going on alternative energy. But prayer is the main thing.
Shit in one hand and wish that god would appear in the other and see which one fills up first.
How anyone can believe in that religious bullshit is one of life’s great mystery’s.
When I heard the line “that a hand will guide us through the storm,” I too shivered and thought, “Oh, crap, he’s talking about the god of Friedman and Hayek, the god called “Hand The Invisible”. But this is a false god.
Um, I don’t *expect* BHO to personally “fix” the broken oil rig. I don’t think BHO has a cape and secret superman abilities. I’m a realist.
However, that “speech” last night was PATHETIC and indicative of everything that’s wrong with this presidency.
1. BHO points to MMS as a repository of cronyism and being literally in bed with BigOil. Well, a half point of credit for telling the truth there, but WHO’s responsible???? Yeah, yeah, I hate W for what he did, but I’m getting to hate BHO more for sitting on his damn thumb and doing nada about MMS, which BHO specifically discussed during the campaign. BHO KNEW there were deep seated problems with all levels of MMS during the campaign. In last night’s speech BHO LIED on the tv saying that he “had no idea.” Bull hockey!!! LIAR. He KNEW and he CHOSE to do nothing about it. NOTHING… until now when he’s caught.
2. BHO appointed Mr. BigOil Ken Salazar to the Dept of Interior. Salazar should have never been appointed. It was cynical and disingenous of BHO to appoint him the first place. Salazar’s done a rotten job and should be fired immediately. BHO talked big on the tv last night about his BFF Salazar and what a “great” job Salazar is doing… NOT. BHO has the ability to FIRE Salazar NOW and hire someone competent asap.
3. BHO has the ability to tell us the bald-faced truth about the situation. Covering it over with fairy floss should not be an option. Speaking to us as if we’re little children and adjuring us to pray is stupid. I have no issue with people praying and strongly support that activity. But this is not a time to talk about prayer; it’s a time to talk about reality on the ground. What exactly is happening in the Gulf? What are the immediate, mid-range and long-term projections? THIS is all stuff that BHO could have spoken more clearly and in detail about, but he chose not to. That’s why people here are pissed off; it’s why I’m angry. Tell me the whole truth; not some bs.
4. BHO has a golden opportunity to really push the nation forward to get off of our addiction to fossil fuels. Although BHO raised this issue last night, he did so only briefly and cursorily. BHO promised during the campaign that this would be one of his signature issues, yet he’s done next to nothing except cozy up to BigOil. BHO has it well within his power to really use the bully pulpit to push this nation forward on green technologies, improving our urban and rural public transportation systems (maybe even creating jobs for those displaced by the oil volcano), pushing Detroit to build elec cars, etc. Yet BHO chose not to say all that much about this…. skittering away from a much needed discussion. WHY? That’s another reason why I’m pissed off, and this is well within BHO’s power to discuss.
5. BHO should be much stronger on having the federal govt and various agencies running the clean up effort. People are pissed off bc BHO’s left it to BP to do this; BP is doing a crap rotten job; it’s damaging the USA’s environment for at least decades to come; and BP is hiding stuff and lying about it. I’m pissed off because our POTUS is NOT doing the job he’s supposed to be doing. Crap- if bush were POTUS, Dems would be screaming in outrage at this kind of crappy job, yet Dems want wank on about how BHO is “doing the best he can.” NOT GOOD ENOUGH. I don’t care what the party affiliation is. Stand up for your country, not your pol party.
I could go on. The speech was a waste of time. It made BHO look weak and ineffectual because he is acting and behaving in a weak and ineffectual way. And all citizens should ask themselves WHY exactly their POTUS is so very, very weak and ineffectual. I say it’s at least partly because he is still beholden to BigOIL which is running the show here. If you, as a citizen, aren’t concerned about that, then maybe you need to ask yourself why you aren’t.
You know this for a indisputable fact? You staffed at Harvard Law Review and you saw the selection process up close and personal? Politics and appearances are everywhere. Obama is, I gather, a brilliant self-presenter. I gather because he never appealed to me, always seemed to me an entirely calculating self-agrandizer with an insatiable yen for more. I thought Robert Samuelson nailed him when Samuelson described Obama as the bright grad student who always has the answer the prof wants. Great in class, very short in on-the-ground experience.
“There are countries that have been around for thousands of years, that haven’t had the bad luck this one has.’
Perhaps it is not bad luck but rather bad karma coming due.
I can’t help but notice the difference between this snark and your comments in Jane’s Halter primary postmortem, Nathan.
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/06/11/accountability-now-and-arkansas/#comment-113329
I guess it’s cool to join in the endless pique of sporkovat now?
Your plan for a constitutional convention has not as yet produced much, has it? Any updates?
Stop being insulting to the rest of us. It’s counterproductive, with guess who as exhibit A.
Bleh, that was to Nathan @ 81.
To my recollection, I have never been on the moon, but I know for a fact that it is not made out of Gouda. We probably should learn the lesson of the teabagger cult and not even bother with people who want you to prove the obvious. Consult any of the myriad academic examinations of the Harvard Law Review selection process. Don’t waste our time.
You are sadly quick to call this good man a liar. Upon examination of your entire piece, I believe that in effect you do want President Obama to “just fix it.” Well, keep stomping your feet and holding your breath until your easy solutions of fire this person and take over that company and just put it to the man actually do some good.
[Edited by Moderator: please be mindful that each commenter's comments have value. It is not polite or respectful to express your negative opinion of another commenter's comment as if it were a commonly agreed to fact.]
From Raw Story:
Assuming BP doesn’t declare bankruptcy and it honors its promise, which I think is extremely unlikely, $20 billion isn’t even a spit in the bucket because this tragedy is going to cost multiple trillions of dollars, and when you get right down to it, there is no sum of money that can compensate for lost lives and species extinction.
We don’t know the terms of the agreement, but if Obama agreed to cap BP’s liability at $20 billion, which is what I suspect he did, we should impeach him now.
I happen to be an atheist, but I have the good taste and common sense not to verbally defecate on other people’s beliefs just because I do not agree with them. In this democracy, such an ill-spirited, scatalogical, petulant diatribe may bring some sordid temporary self-satisfaction, but it will get one’s cause nowhere.
“Obama could seize BP’s assets.” The constitutional and other legal ramifications of your wish are clearly beyond your comprehension. I suggest we all wait for the tooth fairy to leave big shiny krugerrands under our pillows.
I’m an atheist so I think of in terms of “Dame Fotune.”
Do you mean rubbish as in true? Because until I mentioned it, nobody in this line of commentary said word one about the escrow fund. Equally weak is the tactic of inventing a negotiated cap and then skewering it.
Our? Grandiosity is everywhere, as well.
Not bad, Nathan.
Yeah, Agent420 should realize what a great PR stunt calling on a fake skydaddy is. It might even make up a teensy little bit for your disapproval ratings if you play it right. It ain’t called a “Hail Mary” for nothing.
I would be grandiose if I actually thought I had been to Gouda-land on the moon. The use of “our” was probably an accurate gauge of sentiment on this blog and in any event was presumptious at worst.
Again, folks are ridiculing personal and deeply held beliefs of billions of people around the world, even though they are not my beliefs. What good does this do any of your causes?
No, if you actually read what I wrote, I explained exactly what I wanted Obama to “fix,” and I specifically stated that I did not expect Obama to fix the rig/well personally.
But clearly you’re here just to argue to prove some kind of point… to yourself. So fine: I’m sure that you’ve proven to yourself that Obama is not a liar, among other things. Good for you.
I read every petulant word and sentence.
You’re right. It’s honesty. That doesn’t go very far in politics.
Excuse me, sir.
I am a law professor. Serving on the law review is a good experience for students and it looks good on a resume, but I never assume as you do that serving as the editor of a law review says anything about a person’s character and priorities.
Obama has proven himself to be a war criminal, deceitful liar, and corporate shill. Smart or stupid, he’s still a war criminal, deceitful liar, and corporate shill.
That’s all he will ever be and we need to persuade him to resign before he slaughters more innocent people with drones, and irreversibly damages our environment, liberties, and economy beyond what he’s already done.
How very nice for you.
Professor of cant? Doctorate in diatribe? Learned teacher of loose logic? Please elaborate, and explain precisely why I am wrong about what it takes to become the president of the Harvard Law Review.
[Mod note: if you two are going to continue to escalate what is shaping up to be a personal/professional mudslinging match, could you take it outside, please?]
Wonder if Scalia would qualify.
Here are some of the other dullards who served on the Harvard Law Review. Hate them or love them, but please don’t try to attack their intellectual merit and prowess: Stephen Breyer, Felix Frankfurter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, John G. Roberts, Jr., Antonin Scalia. As we lawyers love to say at cocktail parties, I rest my case.
Yes, he needs to be impeached for many reasons. $20 Billion for damages is about as useful as a thong in Siberia.
His speech was just one more reminder that he’s all out shilling for big oil. One doesn’t talk about cleanup efforts in the middle of a hurricane, unless the one is Obama. The crisis is ongoing, things are becomming less clean every day.
Scalia says torture is OK as long as you don’t use it to “punish.”
I rest my case.
For starters, he was the Editor and not the President of the Harvard Law Review.
You attack with a big vocabulary, but your pretty words are empty and you spew nonsense here.
You do not impress.
Good day, sir.
I think your comment says it all.
Scotch is a great intellectual merit and prowess booster, don’tcha know?
Scotch and a splash of weenies on the side will do wonders for the intelligence of the inside-the-beltway-wannabees crowd.
So, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, but the president will declare it policy for addressing national disasters. Lovely.
Are you having fun? You write like a professional disruptor. This kind of distraction is all over DKos. Altho, of late, it seems to have died down a bit. Bored?
I rarely join these chats, in part because of pompous blowhards like you. Let’s see now, your issue points are that I am: apparently having fun; a professional disruptor (whatever the heck that is); bored. Well now, do you have any substantive points about the many substantive comments I have made, or is this all you have?
Which word did you find particularly daunting? Your analysis is that I: “spew nonsense” (but I guess I at least use words you find big); use pretty, but empty, words; and “do not impress [you].” As you have no doubt heard before, is that it, professor?
Sorry, I apologise for taking on a particularly juicy target. I really do love debates, and promise to keep it clean but really effective from now on out.
You’re so good at this, I rest my case.
Somewhere I read about a new irony symbol to be used in places like this and in emails. I could have used it in the “rest my case” usage, which was meant to ironically reference newby lawyers who love to throw around legal phrases and evaluate whether that accidental bump from a colleague was a tort or a crime or both. I have been a lawyer for 34 years, so I thought I could afford to be ironic. Cheers.
This is to both you and liberalarts: I have a great idea for raising money to fight the abortion we call the the elected whore house in Washington (no offense to sex workers anywhere). Here it is: let’s start a line at a buck a toss to see who wins based on a truly democratic vote.This will accomplish both settling who has the biggest pair and raise badly needed cash for a change we can believe in in Washington. If the idea goes over big, hell, we can do this thing all of the time and maybe get a third party off the ground. Can you imagine the cash that will be raised when the Iranian guarded flotilla confronts the Israeli navy? Hell, then we will really make a killing, so to speak. The best to both of you and may the last man standing win, whatever that means. I injoyed the show. Popcorn anyone?
Mason, this is like shooting fish in a barrel. I quote from the New York Times article of February 5, 1990:
“The Harvard Law Review, generally considered the most prestigious in the country, elected the first black president in its 104-year history today. The job is considered the highest student position at Harvard Law School.
The new president of the Review is Barack Obama, a 28-year-old graduate of Columbia University who spent four years heading a community development program for poor blacks on Chicago’s South Side before enrolling in law school.”
Professor, what grade would you give yourself for your research skills?
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