MSNBC host Cenk Uygur gave Chris Van Hollen, the Chair of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), multiple opportunities to state clearly that Democrats would oppose any cuts in Social Security, including in the form of delaying the retirement age. Van Hollen dodged and weaved, then cynically failed every test.
Cenk correctly asked whether van Hollen would commit to oppose such cuts, even if the President’s so called deficit reduction ("let them eat cat food") commission recommended them. Van Hollen refused to commit, implying instead that if cutting Social Security were part of a larger package of reducing deficits, he and other Democrats might support the commission’s recommendations.
Thanks for the warning, Chris. So if it wasn’t clear before, we can now place the Chairman of the DCCC, the body that allocates your campaign contributions to House Democrats, in the same column as John Boehner and Alan Simpson when it comes to [not] protecting Social Security. That’s the list of clowns who wrongly insist we have a deficit/debt crisis (we don’t), that Social Security’s finances are a contributing factor to that crisis (they aren’t), and that cutting Social Security benefits can and should be part of the debt crisis solution (wrong again). Wrong on all counts, Chris, and thanks for making the DCCC’s principles clear.
I can’t think of a single reason why any caring American should contribute a dime to the DCCC. But if you think dissemblers like Van Hollen and the Blue Dogs to whose campaigns he distributes your dollars are good for America, let alone America’s seniors, what can I say?
As Dean Baker, the EPI, Paul Krugman and others have noted, extending the retirement age to 70 would constitute an effective 19 to 20 percent cut in benefits to future seniors. But far too many Democrats are trying to obscure that point by not calling an age eligibility extension a "cut" in benefits, or, like Van Hollen here, they deflect attention to Republican efforts to "privatize" Social Security. [Update: Logically, if you reduce a future retiree's benefits by 20 percent, that means to stay even then, they'd have to start socking away part of their incomes into private savings account now -- stocks, 401k, 457 accounts etc. Isn't that the equivalent of "privatizing" social security?]
From Krugman’s column today, Attacking Social Security:
But the program is under attack, with some Democrats as well as nearly all Republicans joining the assault. Rumor has it that President Obama’s deficit commission may call for deep benefit cuts, in particular a sharp rise in the retirement age.
Social Security’s attackers claim that they’re concerned about the program’s financial future. But their math doesn’t add up, and their hostility isn’t really about dollars and cents. Instead, it’s about ideology and posturing. And underneath it all is ignorance of or indifference to the realities of life for many Americans.
About that math: Legally, Social Security has its own, dedicated funding, via the payroll tax (“FICA” on your pay statement). But it’s also part of the broader federal budget. This dual accounting means that there are two ways Social Security could face financial problems. First, that dedicated funding could prove inadequate, forcing the program either to cut benefits or to turn to Congress for aid. Second, Social Security costs could prove unsupportable for the federal budget as a whole.
But neither of these potential problems is a clear and present danger. Social Security has been running surpluses for the last quarter-century, banking those surpluses in a special account, the so-called trust fund. The program won’t have to turn to Congress for help or cut benefits until or unless the trust fund is exhausted, which the program’s actuaries don’t expect to happen until 2037 — and there’s a significant chance, according to their estimates, that that day will never come.
. . .
It would be easy to dismiss this bait-and-switch as obvious nonsense, except for one thing: many influential people — including Alan Simpson, co-chairman of the president’s deficit commission — are peddling this nonsense.And having invented a crisis, what do Social Security’s attackers want to do? They don’t propose cutting benefits to current retirees; invariably the plan is, instead, to cut benefits many years in the future. So think about it this way: In order to avoid the possibility of future benefit cuts, we must cut future benefits. O.K.
. . .
The currently fashionable idea of raising the retirement age even more than it will rise under existing law — it has already gone from 65 to 66, it’s scheduled to rise to 67, but now some are proposing that it go to 70 — is usually justified with assertions that life expectancy has risen, so people can easily work later into life. But that’s only true for affluent, white-collar workers — the people who need Social Security least.



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Thanks for this, Scarecrow.
Chris van Hollen is a really bad liar who made it very clear that he and the Democrats intend to vote in favor of the Catfood Commission’s recommendation to eviscerate social security with his whining protestations and refusal to answer Cenk’s simple and direct question about whether he would vote against any reduction in social security.
Yet another disgusting asshole posing as a Democrat.
Damn you Scarecrow! That’s twice I’ve posted right after you. ;)
Good piece. I suspect we’ll be eating cat shortly.
I’d move to MD and vote against van Hollen but I got my own problems here in MA with anti-choice, pro-war, anti-stimulus Rep Lynch, MA-9.
This was Obama’s raison d’etre as president. All the other stuff he’s done is just gravy for the powers that be.
Just as Bubba drove the final nail in welfare’s coffin, Obama was chosen to destroy Social Security.
Hey Gibbs, Mr. Funnyman.
Why don’t you remind us why your master isn’t a feckless putz.
We’re so stupid we just keep forgetting.
Spell it out Bozo.
This is exactly why the DCCC, DSCC, and DNC don’t get any of my money any more. They no longer are real Democrats, only Power Addicts. “Screw the People, Gotta Stay in Office!”
I noticed he wouldn’t agree to vote against any package that contained cuts to Social Security, instead saying the he has to “wait to see what’s in the package”. We’re f*cked folks.
NOT the way to motivate your base to come out and vote I can’t help but think. The Republicans are trying to lose by teh crazy while the Democrats are determined to lose due to teh stupid.
Dems, wake up!
The GOP has a recent history for flip-flopping. The “commission” will release this info to the Tea Baggers, the TBs will get all upset and the GOP will flip, showing how they “saved” SS from those pesky Dems.
This is their playbook.
What does it take for the general population to see that the Dems and Repugs are both the same, working for the same masters? And we’re the victims, every time, all the time.
It seems people get elected merely to remove themselves from the general population who will be gutted.
I hope that the Democrats get wiped out in November.
Then, we can work towards building a party that actually cares about people, instead of these dissembling corporate owned whores.
We cannot have a real progressive movement until we get rid of these imposters.
I believe this means the government can use the SS funds as a slush fund for other purposes, like wars.
Thanks for the post, which continues along the same vein. The Republics, via RushGlenn, are softening up the Tea Baggers for this blow with their current rant against the “nanny state” and how all really good “small” people – to be blessed by the supreme being – have to “stand on their own two feet” and not expect “welfare.” Getting any kind of “money from the government” has been turned into original venal sin, which works very well as a flagellation device for the ‘Baggers.
Frankly, I see my Tea Bagger family getting ready to bend over and take it where the sun don’t shine in terms of Soc Sec. I wouldn’t count on the ‘Baggers going nutz about this (could be wrong). Just so’s ya know.
I don’t buy the “slush fund” framing. I think it’s more accurate to say this, via Dean Baker:
Our only hope is to get this news out there to as many people as possible that the Democrats are going to cut your Social Security before the November elections. If Obama isn’t forced to walk it back before then, the shit is going down.
If and when this happens, this needs to be metaphorically tied around Obama’s neck like an anchor. The Democratic president who cut our Social Security, the stupid prick. Unbelievable.
I agree. Tea baggers by and large are well off and of a class that has some facility with private investing for retirement and a lot of hubris at their perceived autonomy. . Add to that the fact that they couldn’t care less about the unlucky and the less abled.
The die is cast. They plan to raid SS and give it to their Masters on Wall Street.
POTUS and SOH raised over $1M for DCCC last night at Hollywood event
on the very night Van Hollen did his weasel dance.
This is why articles like Scarecrow’s are so important. We have to make guys like Van Hollen — and even more importantly, Obama and Emanuel — face the fact that screwing their base means screwing themselves.
I am going to do the Republican thing and buy stock in catfood companies.
Un-fucking-believable. Yet another reason to vote Democrats out of office. Thanks for the heads-up Chris!
a little good news
am seeing word of what’s really going on starting to show up outside our reality based oasis here -
some of the smart kids on my twitter feed have noticed
AlterNet is sounding the alarm
and Sally Kohn has a question over at HuffPo (with a well deserved call out to a certain foul mouthed femme blogger)
we aint dead yet
and Bubba killed regulation of the Banks (repeal of Glass Steagal) and the free press (Telecommunications Act).
All part of the plan.
Team Obama said after taking office that the would be taking control of reelection funding at a national level. Like as not Van Hollen is simply following the lead of the guy that created the cat food commission. Weaken up the dialog so that Bowles and Simpson later appear to be reading from the shared consensus.
And just think… in a few short years – perhaps even months if he plays his cards right – Jason Rosenbaum might be doing the same thing on the Senate side!
That same article on “which party poses the real risk” appears on Seminal — see letsgetitdone
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/65651
I watched this live yesterday and Van Hollen seemed he was doing a two step dance as he continually dodged and twisted as Cenk grilled him on SS… What an asshole he is… No mo money for the Dems from this household…
Thanks for these links. The Sally Kohn article is spot on. She also links to a New Republic story Link that is good reading.
thanks. was just glad to see it outside here –
there was a FB link from DFA last night that gave me pause – incredibly (and I believe uncharacteristically) misleading
all about how the Republicans had stacked the Cat Food Commission -oy
I loved the look on Van Hollin’s face when Cenk said “I thought we voted for a Democrat”. It looked like he swallowed a lemon.
Meet the REAL “Professional Left” you sucker!
http://polltracker.talkingpointsmemo.com/contests/us-cong-generic-ballot?ref=fpblg
The Dems are sinking like a stone on the Generic Congressional Ballot, and Obama is at 42-50 approve/disapprove. We need to hammer the fuck out of them on the Catfood Commission. Make Obama blink.
Yup and we got to watch it ALL happen.
Write a letter to the president: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact
One thing the government needs to do right away is apply social security taxes against unemployment benefits. These so many people milking the system right now that there’s more money going out than coming in. My suggestion would change things.
And just think, this would have all been a great big Christmas SURPRISE if Alan Simpson hadn’t spilled the beans outside the closed doors.
No wonder people aren’t spending $$$
this will take US into tin shacks after we’ve been so good as to give up our houses, jobs and prosperity so the banksters can have more.
I’ve noticed younger people fall more easily for the propaganda than those of us who actually SAW a strong American middle class and how it made the country so strong.
By the way, I agree that this was why Obama was put in right now…to continue the wars and the looting…finish off the Shock Doctrine of America.
I think Obama, through many ways including his press secretary, has made it pretty damn clear who he wants to hear from: his wealthy corporate buddies. He can take his “make me” shtick and stick it deep where the sun don’t shine.
Well, it was sorta a jest………
I will give to specific Democrats only for their elections, but not if they are spreading their largess to their buddies through a ridiculous PAC. And definitely not to any Democratic organization.
Unfortunately, because this commission was inspired and hand-picked by Mr. Post-Partisanship what you are describing is a feature and not a bug. As Nixon (being a rabid Red-baiter back in the day) could only go to China, only a “Socialist” like Obama can gut SS to the bone. Everything this sellout has done once he got the White House has been to undermine the middle class for the benefit of corporate America. He will not walk back anything about this because it is his idea in the first place.
I don’t think it will matter how loudly the Left howls and rages against it…I think this is a done deal. Unless we can get a MASSIVE street presence demonstrating against this – AND the media to cover it properly (2 Big If’s) -we’re screwed.
Robert Gibbs says, “Ya, the professional left won’t be satisfied until we honor our debt to seniors! They think the rich should pay their fair share? That’s fuckin’ mental! What! Are they on drugs?”
Gotcha. Yeah, the begging is pretty much over. I will actively work for his defeat in 2012.
I love the self righteousness of Van Hollen’s line of attack that Cenk was attacking the catfood commission’s proposal before he even saw it.
This is one of the many tactics of hiding bad faith governance. Forbid any early criticism and discussion, hide what’s going on until it’s too late for any dissenting opinions to be made public.
And if like Van Hollen, you can dress up your argument as intellectual honesty, you get picked to head the DCCC!
Deception is the ultimate weapon of WAR!!!
The elites have one agenda destroy the NEW Deal
They developed Clinton and Obama, both are trojan horses. They have also flooded the democratic party with other trojan horses who have one goal in mind, destroy the democrats from within.
The elites want the masses to say if the Democrats want to cut social security it must be o-kay. The idea is to make Obama look like he is FDR, when in fact he is Bush.
The media machine the elites own and control will soon go into high gear talking about the huge diaster surrounding social security. (have you ever notice there is never a shortage of funds for the Pentagon)
Chris Hedges says it best, there was a war for the USA govt. and the corporations and elites won! the first battle.
The second battle is going to be a little harder, no politician will surivive the onslaught of touching social security, without cutting other programs first.
Heartless is here folks..
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Just like the public option, which was going to be added in reconciliation.
Two very important thing are happening today, first, BRAVO Cenk!!! Keep asking the questions that I have been yelling at my TV!!! (Finally someone heard me, besides my neighbors) And, Krugman made probably the most important point in this whole sorry cat food commission saga.
In order to save Social Security from having to cut benefits in the future…. we have to cut Social Security benefits.
I think we need to write every Democratic Congress person, especially those who are going to lose. We need to point out that the Obama Whitehouse has taken every popular item on their agenda and made it a weight around their feet. That if they lose, much of this can be directly attributed to a White House who has supported Wall Street over Main Street almost every time and expected the public not to notice. They told the President that the Commission was a no go, but he formed it anyway. And now he wants them to vote on its recommendations as a whole. And in it are going to be unnecessary fixes to Social Security. The kind of fixes that are going to guarantee that Social Security will be gone or privatized down the line. And because of the secrecy attached to this commission. What will be remembered will be what Congress does, not that this was the President’s stalking horse.
Attempt to convince them to make the President admit his ownership in this ploy. That they need to be clear about deficits not being the problem. And then make it clear that NO Real Democrat would vote to cripple the party’s finest legacy of making American’s lives better. And that it is a beginning of their comeback, even if it hurts the President’s personal agenda.
I don’t know if they are cynical enough to buy it, but I’m betting we can convince a few that a No vote is not only a smart political choice, but it is a nice fuck you to the President.
You are correct, plus some of the ‘Baggers will inherit some money from their parents, so they figure that’s good enough for them, eff the rest of the rabble.
However, more fool them that they give up Soc Sec, which most of the ‘Baggers paid into. My ‘Bagger family is very happy to collect Soc Sec for my very aged parents, but I can see my siblings getting ready to give away their Soc Sec in the name of being “good citizens” and not partaking of the Nanny state. My siblings are already complaining about HAVING to sign up for Medicare.
So, I have no expectation that ‘Baggers will protest having the money that they contributed to Soc Sec for their retirements being ripped off by the Catfood Commission to enure to the benefit of obscenely wealthy. My prediction.
van Hollen shouldn’t make the argument that we don’t know the commission recommendations. the reason is because it conducts all it’s meetings in secret. Open it up or shut it down!
Worth a shot, but I wouldn’t hold my breath. Most of the so-called Democratic party sold out a long time ago, more’s the pity. But it’s one way to hold their feet to the fire, so why not?
1. Cenk nailed Van Hollen at 4:09 in the take; everything after that was whatever entertainment value you find watching a politician dissemble.
2. Go Young Turks!
3. I haven’t given a dime to the DCCC since I realized Obama wasn’t the candidate I voted for (June 2009). I send every one of their solicitations back telling them “not one dime until the corporatist wing of the party is taken over by the progressive wing.”
4. It’s not enough for Obama and Van Hollen and the rest of the Democratic leadership to fearmonger the Republicans on SS; being better than the Republicans is not much of an accomplishment these days, and it’s not going to be enough to earn my support.
5. The one thing that has come out of the manufactured mosque debate is an explicit illustration of what is wrong with Obama and the Democratic leadership. They believe reactively standing to the left of the intellectually and morally bankrupt Republicans is enough, rather than understanding true leadership is about taking affirmative stands proactively. Very telling that the leader in the mosque spectacle has been Bloomberg, not even a Democrat.
6. Obama must be primaried. Who will do it? What are they doing now? How can I help?
Jane Hamsher is upstairs!
Michael Whitney Talks About Ending Marijuana Prohibition on Russian TV
If they want to put “cat food” on the menu for senior citizens they should be told in no uncertain terms that the “rich” will also be put on the menu. Taking down plutocrats one meal at a time.
The Democrats are a party of Blue Dog status quo corporatists. You view their actions through this lens and you’ll seldom be wrong in your predictions. We really need to drop this pretense that the Democrats aren’t out to screw ordinary Americans, like us, as much as the Republicans are. Every issue that comes up we go through the same charade about Obama and/or the Democrats betraying their principles. This is completely wrongheaded and only slows our response. What we have seen for the last year and a half are the Democrats’ principles in action. Principle Number One is loot whatever you can as much as you can. Principle Number Two is screw the rubes to accomplish Principle One. That, that is the modern Democratic Party. We can only oppose the Democrats, just as we oppose the Republicans. To do anything else is to abet them in their looting of us.
Way to screw your base just before a crucial midterm election.
God, are the Dems that politically tone deaf? Absolutely.
great post!
Progressives must do what SUN TZU says
Sun Tzu wrote “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.”
Guess what people a lot Dems, call Obama, Gibbs, Rahm, Axelrod, Nelson, Lincoln, etc. etc. are enemies of progressives
I thought they might stand up to it until Pelosi scheduled then up or down vote over Christmas recess. I guess so she can throw up her hands and say she tried.
Now they’ve cut food stamps too, to “finance” all that “aid” they gave to the states.
I wonder if this is the societal breakdown they have been working toward since Reagan.
Of course, we don’t have our National Guard, they were kidnapped and sent to the oil wars. but we DO have about 35,000 foreign mercenaries in violation of Posse Comittatus right here “in case” civil unrest gets going as the people starve and take it to the streets.
Nobody could believe that Obama would do a total 180 from his rhetoric and many still have blind faith in him.
and the right is locked and loaded. and the Latinos are ready to “take back their land”.
things are going upside down by this time next year, I predict.
things are going to get hairy real fast in another SHOCK on top of so many
I don’t blame you one bit Mr. Van Holland. Not one bit.
The POTUS’s Press Secretary can insult the left. The President and the entire Party can ignore the left. You and the catfood commission can end or begin to end one of the left’s proudest achievement.
And on election day they’ll still largely vote for you.
So, don’t blame you one bit. Not a bit dood. This way you can count on the votes of the left AND count on the monetary support from the MOTU. What a great gig.
Milk it baby, milk it.
And the left deserves what it gets. Nothing.
Interesting that the people have become the nannies of the State…isn’t it?
Communication skills are lacking in the Obama administration.
My distaste/distrust/disgust with Obama is as high or higher than others on this thread, but I will hope for a change and listen to hear if there is one. This topic is of special importance to me as a retired actuary.
So if Chris Van Hollen would simply say they are planning on raising the normal retirement age 40 years from now to age 69 (a 14% cut) while also ending the wage cap and cutting the tax rate 1% (the 6.2% of wages up to an annual wage maximum ($106,800 in 2009 and 2010) plus a tax of 1.45% of total wages becoming 5.7% for ee and er plus 1.45 on ee and er for medicare), or alternatively raising the age one year to 68 (a 7% cut) while ending the wag cap but with a donut hole for wages between 107000 and 250000 and cutting the payroll tax rate 0.5%, then I’d be on this board talking about how it was not a bad compromise.
But Obama is leaving the impression that the Social Security change is on the table and is only about cuts in benefits.
Why he wants this pot to boil is beyond me – but changing anything is above my pay grade. I wish I saw folks in the media suggesting “compromise” means something like I have above – it might get a discussion going. But if we are left to Simpson for direction, there is nothing good that I expect from the commission.
The invasion is being planned around the policy…
- Bush, oops I mean:
- Obama
Why Obama was put in . . . . . . . good line, Kassie.
And to be cynical: how does it look to have a minority guy in charge for the destruction of the middle class ?
Intentional? You bet.
Blue Texan is upstairs!
John McCain Blames Media for Perception That He’s Flip-Flopped on Everything
Yet another example of clouding what’s important with distracting details. The Dems will swear to protect SSA unless its part of a really really big bill full of nonsense that they’ll claim is too important to ignore. Can you say HCR folks. This crowd is hard at work refining the tactic of building a S**T sundae and pointing to the cherry on top as a sign of success. It’s getting old.
I quit giving money to the Democratic Party and all of its incarnations six months ago. Watching the party glibly preside over the dismantling of this country is infuriating.
What are we to do? No, really. What are we to do?
Absolutely correct. Talk will accomplish nothing. Demonstrations are the only thing that counts. But I don’t see any organizations on the left doing any planning and organizing. Talk is okay, but real organizing? Why, that puts you on the outs with the Dem insiders.
BTW — Did anybody else but me notice that the saem week Rachel buys an aprtment in NYC that Wells Fargo becomes a sponsor of her show?
Forgot to mention: Maddow purchased her unti from former REM front man Michael Stipe for $1.25 mil.
Not against Rachel living decently, but combined with all her other subtle changes of position and back-walking of her progressive rhetoric, just another sign that Rachel has less and less in common with, you know, real people.
That would require changes in the Social Security Act.
I get the feeling that Obama doesn’t even care if he gets a second term.
He came there with the objective to push forth Wall Street’s agenda.
Mission Accomplished.
Lets take a simplistic look here.
To reduce Deficit for that matter any type we need to cut down expenses while at the same time increase revenues while increasing long term savings at the same or increased rate.
Now apply this to federal Government which this so-called deficit commission is supposed to handle.
Increase Revenues: Re-instate progressive taxes and Estate Taxes which ironically came from Republican presidents like Pres. Theodore Roosevelt and Pres. Eisenhower.
Reduce Expenses: Stop indirect and direct bailouts for wall street gigantic in scope and size, Reduce biggest chunk of our budget which is defence in a smart way along with the reduction of expenses of two wars.
What do they pick to focus on contrary to their mandate (not withstanding commission basic legal standing and composition): Gutting the Savings that too long term savings of American people at the expense of the long term financial stablity of the world. Only thing this shows is it is a pre-conceived, pre-determined agenda to destroy the social security.
I think you’re right. After all, Obama already has his place in history as the first minority/black President. He doesn’t need a second term to solidify his legacy/historical importance.
They already have a nice story printed up for the cartoon history books. It will read very nicely in 2020, though he will be overshadowed by Bill Clinton… the liberal lion.
Where’s oldgold to tell me the country isn’t in favor of progressive policies??
“Jonathan Weisman’s Wall Street Journal writeup of the lastest WSJ/NBC poll was given the headline “Voters Back Tough Steps to Reduce Budget Deficit”. I would have said “Voters Want to Soak the Rich.” The following is an exhaustive list of deficit reducing measures the public deemed acceptable:
[...]
That’s lower Medicare benefits for the rich, higher Social Security taxes for the rich, higher income taxes for the rich, higher corporate income tax, and lower Medicare payment rates. That’s pretty much an aggressively leveling agenda. Broad tax increases are deemed unacceptable, as are broad reductions in retirement program spending (even when formulated as changes to the retirement age), as are cuts to defense and cuts to federal education spending. That’s what the public wants.
[...]”
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2010/08/voters-want-to-soak-the-rich/
I’ll go along with social security cuts when Congress, both houses, lose their pensions (welfare for the rich and powerful). When THEY have to live off social security, we’ll see how eager those fuctards are to cut it.
Right now it’s no skin off their noses.
I have been planning to sit out the November election but with shit like this I am seriously thinking I need to go to the polls to specifically vote AGAINST Democraps.
you can’t even give to a specific dem candidate safely if you think about it. Every dollar you give directly to a candidate is a dollar that the DSCC, DCCC or DNC doesn’t have to give to them and can give to a Blue Dog instead.
yep, that’s just how all those pols who claimed they would vote against HCR if there wasn’t a public option did the “bait and switch” on us.
Unless the govt plan to default on US Bonds, how will cutting social security have any effect on the deficit or the debt?
Another Quisling to add to the growing list of Dem apostates who have renounced the legacy of FDR and the Democratic Party.
Other names on the list are the Apostate in Chief President Barack Obama.
Nancy Pelosi despite statements to the contrary. Just look at the people she appointed to the Cat Food Commission.
Harry Reid despite his statements-again look at his SS hating appointees.
President Obama has shown himself to be such a pathetic leader for the average people of this country that he might well decide not to run in 2012. If he does run he will be crushed. Shade of George McGovern and Jimmy Carter.
When they vote to eviscerate SS & Medicare, the Dems will claim they are saving them. That will be the frame they will use. Dems standing steadfast, a bulwark against dastardly Republicans who would do….something even worse, like privatization. The Dems will present us with a huge stinking sack full and say, You have us to thank for this. We are your saviors. Rejoice. Send money. Vote for us.
Where are the other blogs? Where is Talking Points Memo? Get the dems ON THE RECORD via video as was done with the repugs!
Obama already has lost support from the Seniors, you know, the block that votes, as everyone likes to remind us. I can think of no stupider action that any Democrat can take than to vote to hurt Social Security by cutting benefits or raising the eligibility age. Everyone would support raising the payroll cutoff to a higher amount, or eliminating it entirely. Why that isn’t the solution of choice for Democrats only serves to show how the fix is in, and the Catfood Commission is going to carry the day by making recommendations the public will hate, and the Democrats in Congress and the President will sadly embrace.
I have written my Congress critters and President Obama that although I am a life=long Democrat, I will vote AGAINST any Democrat that goes along with these moves to destroy Social Security. I don’t care if I have to vote for a crazy teabagger or a Republican to make sure the Dem is defeated. I’m pretty sure a lot of Seniors will be making the same decision. I am beginning to believe that Obama is going to be a one-term President, no matter who his looney rightwing opponent is. They don’t call this the third rail of politics for no good reason.
In 2009, Bill Maher got it ‘right’: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3kXpfEFjqQ