The one thing we’ve learned to expect from the unprincipled opportunist, Joe Lieberman (Folly, Connecticut) is that he will search for chances to obstruct something worthwhile, then cynically place himself in the doorway to block it, based on some completely bogus argument designed to exasperate anyone with an ounce of decency or common sense.
Sure enough, here’s Joe explaining he’ll do everything he can to screw up the deal and insist we extend Bush tax cuts for the richest 2 percent:
“I don’t think it makes sense to raise any federal taxes during the uncertain economy we are struggling through. The more money we leave in private hands, the quicker our economic recovery will be. And that means I will do everything I can to make sure Congress extends the so-called Bush tax cuts for another year and takes action to prevent the estate tax from rising back to where it was.”
“In our current economic situation, we cannot risk the economic headwinds that would be caused by tax increases. We need to keep as much money as possible in people’s pockets and business’s bank accounts.”
“I know that many people, including the President, have argued that the tax cuts should not be continued for people making more than $200,000 a year, but to me these are the people we need to be using their income to spend and invest to spur growth and job creation. The fact is that the top 3% of American income earners account for 25% of the consumption in our economy. Remember consumer demand is still the major driver of economic growth in America. I want the top income earners in our country to have the confidence and the money to spend and invest over the next year, rather than worrying about paying more in taxes to the federal government.”
What Joe is reminding us is that "the top 3% of American income earners" have managed to capture 25% of the nation’s goods and services consumption (the top 10% get about 40%), and the rest of you slobs get what’s left. And since the financial sector we just bailed out is where most of the wealth was being made (looted) in the last decade or so, a fair percentage of those big spenders cashed in. That alone is a compelling argument for more progressive taxes on high incomes and rich estates. But Joe thinks this is an argument for letting the richest Americans keep their riches so they’ll spend and invest in America.
All the economists/studies tell us just the opposite. It’s the lower income folks who spend a much higher portion (virtually all) of their income, and so getting more money to them provides the best stimulus for jobs and economic growth during a recession. So let’s use Joe’s unprincipled opportunism as a teaching moment.
If you raised taxes on the richest 3% and reduced their share of total spending to, say, merely 10% or 15% of total spending (i.e, they still get to spend 3 to 5 times the average), instead of 25% of total spending, and then reallocated those dollars to the bottom 50% who would immediately spend most of that money, you would increase total spending, boost the economy and lower unemployment. . . .
And Joe’s argument for keeping all the money in private hands in also gibberish. The public sector is abysmally underfunded, which is why states are laying off hundreds of thousands of teachers, firemen, police, public parks/health/safety workers and neglecting trillions in needed infrastructure investments. As long as that’s true, private consumption and investment are not inherently more worthwhile than public spending and investments. And when private spending is depressed because the private sector just lost $8 trillion in housing wealth, never mind what Wall Street did to your retirement savings, we need a lot more government spending to fill in the massive hole in GDP. That’s just basic economics. (And note that Joe is not calling for large cuts in federal public spending for defense contracts in Connecticut.)
But thanks, Joe, for providing a perfect example to explain why we need to end the tax cuts for the richest 2 percent and reinstitute a healthy tax on rich estates . . . while reminding everyone what an unprincipled man you’ve become.
Hand the wealthiest Americans a tax cut and history suggests they will save the money rather than spend it.
Tax cuts in 2001 and 2003 under President George W. Bush were followed by increases in the saving rate among the rich, according to data from Moody’s Analytics Inc. When taxes were raised under Bill Clinton, the saving rate fell.
The findings may weaken arguments by Republicans and some Democrats in Congress who say allowing the Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans to lapse will prompt them to reduce their spending, harming the economy. President Barack Obama wants to extend the cuts for individuals earning less than $200,000 and couples earning less than $250,000 while ending them for those who earn more.



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Recced like a big dog!
Your spot-on description of Rape Gurney Joe
reminds me of something from the past. What might that be?
Oh, right, the founding screed of the modern conservative movement, belched out by elitist dillytante Bill Buckley, who discovered Joe in time to punish Connecticut statesman Lowell Weicker for his Nixon apostasy:
Joe’s probably trotting out the latest meme to be used by Repubs and their DINO enablers to keep the tax cuts intact. Thank you so much DLC, for bringing this asshat to prominence. In response to a recent diary- Let’s not just Dump Obama…Dump “Em All!
I do everything I can with my wages to stimulate the local economy. I purchase produce from a company that buys them from local and regional sources. I buy other merchandise from a local, independently-owned health food store. When I have time, I also visit the local farmer’s market and frequent the local cafe, all of which benefit local businesses.
Granted, we have to do some of our shopping at at supermarket, but that’s only the stuff we cannot get at the other places… or else merchandise we cannot afford to buy there.
And the few times I bother to put gas in the car, I take it a small locally-owned gas station.
It’s not as if I make a lot of money, either. I just like to spread it around locally as much as possible.
Joe, like most conservatives, adhere’s the propoganda that we must give the wealthiest 3% ever more tax cuts on the
lie, uh,propoganda, uh, notion that by coddling the obscenely wealthy this will result in them some day, somewhere, some how finallyscratching their buttscreating “jobs ‘n stuff.”Many conservatives still believe this and tell me – either here by blogging or to my face – that the Bush tax cuts just “haven’t been in place long enough” for the oligarchs to
scratch their butts“create jobs ‘n stuff.”JoeMentum knows exactly who he’s talking to (other than the oligarchs who run him), and the conservatives will clap, cheer and declare it a “job well done.”
Sheesh. Unsurprised; thanks for the update.
Lieberman never suffers political consequences from the Dems for what he does.
Small wonder that he continues doing it.
Does this process sound familiar, or what?
Does he know how silly he sounds?
Does anyone share my feeling that Democrats’ refusal to strip Lieberman of his committee chairmanship is one of the best possible arguments for the Democrats’ being a simulation of an opposition party rather than the actual thing?
Of course he doesn’t know how silly he sounds. He’s a noted “Very Serious Person” after all.
He doesn’t sound silly to anyone inside the Veal Pen and doesn’t care about anyone outside of it.
Mitch takes care of his own: TPM
Joe is sure to be happy.
Personally, I think any member of Congress making more than $250,000 a year should have to recuse themselves from voting on this.
First he sabotaged our efforts to pass meaningful health care reform. Now he’s trying to sabotage our efforts to restore taxes on the rich. So we must throw Traitor Joe out on his ear before he turns all of us ordinary folks into shark bait for the rich, just as he would have done to these ordinary pups…:’(
http://www.fishingfury.com/20051006/live-dogs-used-as-shark-bait-by-rich-douchebags/
“…the rest of you slobs get what’s left.” So, you’re not one of us slobs? C’mon down, you’ll meet a much better class of people in the employees parking lot.
OMG. That photo might be the most unsettling photo I’ve ever seen in my life. Damned if it didn’t bring real tears (don’t know what’s up with waterworks lately, just seems to happen easier now) I’d spend every last dime I have to spend two hours in a room with the asshole(s) that did that.
Let ‘em all sunset rather than listen to Joe. The middle class tax portion wasn’t that great shakes anyway. And if the economy and public funding doesn’t improve, the middle class will be giving those cuts back in higher property taxes.
Agreed.
Right on!
You bet.
Remember the good ole days, when Lieberman was as crazy as they came?
Lieberman is a far-right repuke, just like his mentee Obama.
What the Democrat brand has devolved to: repuker-than-thou.
It’s enough to make you, well, puke ..
Spot on, blue. There were signs that Obama was a DLC corporate tool from the very beginning… Big O picks Lieberman as his mentor in the Senate, campaigns for him during the primary, gives him money after Ned Lamont kicks his ass to the curb, the breaking of his FISA filibuster pledge. Granted, these signs were contradictory with much of the progressive positions he pretended to be for and the progressive rhetoric he used to to such effect during the campaign.
which is exactly the counter-argument to the ‘lesser of two evils’ claim used by every DLC apparatchik and Obamabot
He is not anywhere in the running for the most batshitcrazyinsane these days.
Yep. Nostalgia. Or is that neuralgia?
Uncle JoJo KNOWS he’s on his last leg before he gets shown the door. He is now a non-thing like most others of his age group in Congress…
Just everybody ignore his dribbling on the floors and maybe he’ll just fade away…
Joe in the real world we look at what has happened before and use that to predict the future. Bush tax cuts 8 years the rich used the money to cause the housing bubble and resulting banking crisis.
FDR taxed the crap out of the rich and put people to work guess what idea made America’s economy stronger Joe?
Cripes where did you and your staff learn economics a cracker jack box?
So anybody looking to challenge Joe?
If Angle beats Reid, then IMO the honor of holding that title will be lost in the Senate for at least 6 years. Unless, of course, teh other one in Deleware wins.
Where the hell do they keep finding these completely insane women anyway? Man, I used to genuinely believe that replacing all the men in positions of power in the government would be a good thing since I figured they couldn’t muckt up any worse than the men. The last two election cycles has me reevaluating that sentiment.
Tell Joe all foreign aid including aid to Israel gets canceled before any real Lefty will vote for for Social Security cuts.
Joe LIEberman, obama’s gift that just keeps on giving.
Joe’s wife still lobbying for drug companies lets make Ephedrine (used to make Meth) and Oxycodon illegal Heroin is illegal Cocaine is illegal nobody ever died of Pot and thats illegal.
Lets cut Joe where he lives Bog Pharma money.
I don’t think he is the only dem who feels this way. There are at least 3 more, maybe 4. logic doesn’t count here. It is raw power and greed. The dems could let them just run out. By then all the damage from the election will be over and they will be a minority party. Then they can have a shit fight over who is destroying the economy and who is supporting the rich. The dems will lose, of course, and then Obama can look for a new job. I’ll stick with my prediction: The tax cuts will be extended for all.
Well, emotionally I would do that but it is definitely bad PR. So it’s not gonna happen. What is Joe gonna do with the estate tax? He knows where his bread is buttered with the rich dudes up there in Ct. Is there any way to get him out once and for all in 2012?
Yes but come January he could just cross the aisle I suppose.
As with “Health Care Reform” and his opposition to a public option, Lieberman, the useful tool, is again being trotted out as loyal reasonable opposition within the ranks. He is the tool to give Obama waht he wants. Tax Cuts For the Rich.
I may be getting some of the facts below wrong, if any Nutmeg State Firepups/baggers need to clarify, please do…
Ned Lamont, running as a (mostly) self-financed liberal/progressive (end Iraq war, etc.) beat Lieberman in the Democratic Primary for Senate in 2006. He only had the support of John Edwards during the campaign. Lieberman had the support of Hillary and Obama during the primary. Funny thing happened afterwards, though. Lieberman formed his own independent party (CT for Lieberman) because CT doesn’t have a sore loser law prohibiting candidates from competing in the general if they lose their Party’s primary. Then IIRC a strong Repub candidate dropped out and was replaced by a fringe lunatic (w/ties to some casino/mob scandal?).
Lamont, the Democrat in the race received tepid support from the Party while Lieberman was getting checks from his Senate buddies, including Obumma. Lieberman wins re-election w/ a coalition of Repubs and Independents (70% of the Democratic vote goes to Lamont)in the general, campaigns against Obamma in the 2008 election, and keeps his cushy chair on Homeland Security. The rest, as they say, is hilarity.
I don’t think CT has a recall provision- when I used to read Great Orange Satan that idea was discussed ad nauseum but apparently could not legally happen.
The 2006 CT Senate election should have served as a bellweather for Progressives. Not only did it telegraph who Obama really was, but it showed how far both Parties were prepared to go to keep a DFH out of the club. This is one reason I have doubts about Hillary being our best hope should we decide to primary Obama in 2012.
Great minds think alike : )
Huh? What am I missing here?
Oops! Never mind. I finally get it.
Me too. Me too.