One of the first stories to replace the killings in Tucson and the national response as the lead story in the New York Times has been upheaval in Tunisia, a country I suspect most Americans could find only with assistance from Google Maps. But there’s a painful connection to the common topic of how societies struggle to bring change against what they consider unjust, repressive regimes.
As of Friday evening (US Eastern time), the New York Times is reporting that the Tunisian President, Ben Ali, who’s been the country’s dictator for 23 years, has fled the country and been “temporarily replaced” by the Prime Minister with promises of major reforms, a new government and elections. All this comes after months of public protests and street demonstrations that reportedly included police killing scores and crowds ransacking one ministry and the palace of a member of Ben Ali’s family and further threats to the posh residences of the ruling elite.
It’s not clear what will happen next; we don’t know whether just, humane reforms will actually occur or the moment for that lost. But observers are looking at what’s happening and wondering about the precedent this sets for forcing political change in a corrupt, authoritarian kleptocracy. From the Times’ Anthony Shadid:
The reported departure of Tunisian President Zine el-Abidine Ben Ali, after popular protests in his North African country, electrified an Arab world whose residents have increasingly complained of governments that seem incapable of meeting their citizens’ demands and bereft of ideology save a motivation to perpetuate themselves in power.
“We hope that what happened in Tunisia could happen in other Arab countries where leaders and kings have rusted on their thrones,” said Abeer Madi al-Halabi, a newscaster on New TV, a Lebanese station that supports leftist causes.
Since their beginning, the protests have been closely followed by Arabic-language networks, as well as social networking sites, like Facebook and Twitter. Hours after Mr. Ben Ali’s departure, messages were posted to Facebook celebrating the fall of one of the Arab world’s heaviest handed dictatorships.
There is a different version of this same conversation occurring in America, which remains shocked by the killings of six people and wounding of a dozen others. Before any facts were in on the nature and motives of the suspect, the country leaped to an entirely plausible connection with vehement advocacy of violence to meet political ends, and this in turn has resulted in wide-spread denunciations of such advocacy.
But what does Tunisia say about this?
Suppose you lived in a country in which the ruling elite had retained power for decades and then used that power to heap enormous wealth and privilege on the ruling elite, while the elite’s financiers profited even more from their regime by looting the nation’s financial system.
Suppose these financial and political elites had ignored the plight of ordinary citizens, allowed massive poverty and income inequality to persist, and instead fostered conditions allowing the elite to plunder the country’s resources and loot its citizen’s wealth, leaving millions unemployed and at risk of losing their homes.
Suppose this same elite controlled the media, could buy/bribe government officials at will, and could use the media and the trappings of democracy to claim legitimacy while enforcing a narrow range on political discourse and even narrower range of which problems and solutions possess political legitimacy.
And suppose any efforts at reform kept the same elites and their institutions in charge, even after they ransacked the country and caused great harm to millions of ordinary citizens, while the elite held none of themselves accountable, let alone criminally responsible.
What should the citizens of that nation do? And which country am I describing?
In his Tucson speech, the President of the United States said this:
Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let us use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to listen to each other more carefully, to sharpen our instincts for empathy, and remind ourselves of all the ways our hopes and dreams are bound together.
“Expand our moral imaginations,” he said. Paul Krugman today said that even though there is a great, possibly irreconcilable national disagreement over what government functions and actions are morally acceptable, he hoped we could at least agree that the debate occur within non-violent bounds.
LIke Krugman, I would like to believe that’s possible (I doubt it), but I share his skepticism that the long arc of history bends towards justice. It does only if we persistently lean on it that way. But I think it’s necessary first to describe the conditions under which it might be possible in a supposedly democratic nation.
Most important, the range of what’s morally and pragmatically acceptable can’t be confined to notions that leave our governing/economic elites comfortable. It’s not enough to assume, as this Administration has repeatedly done, that the only problems and only solutions we can consider are those that leave the current elites and the institutions they control in charge, while everything else is automatically taken “off the table.”
If the elites don’t want enraged crowds ransacking their palaces, they need to broaden their imagination about what’s politically and morally possible, and even that may not save them in the end. Ask the Tunisians.
More Tunisia background and coverage from:
Al Jazeera: PM replaces Tunisia President
BBC: President forced out
Update: See Marcy Wheeler’s post on the wikileak link wrt Tunisia and US policy on press freedoms
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Scarecrow,
Great post. Recommended.
mz,
Yes, this is a worldwide trend. Also related, I expect independence movements to gain strength. For example, we’ve just seen a new country being formed in Sudan.
I heard a commenter on the radio saying the PM will not bring the changes the people are demanding, so your linking of Tunisia with the U.S. may be even more similar.
Great post, John. So when do we begin blogging calls for Obama’s resignation?
Our ruling elite are too self-important to see the writing on the wall at this point, but the time will come when they will say “maybe we should have paid attention to Tunisia.” The present situation cannot last in America.
Watching the coverage tonight on PBS News Hour, some decent, especially foreign correspondents on the scene actually running from tear gas, etc. and interviewing the locals, many of whom speak English, tell us how important this was and hopeful they were for their freedoms . . . But it was interesting when Judy asks her US expert why this is important to the US, and the expert says one reason was because Tunisia regime has been supportive of US war on terror — and that was the clincher. We’re so exceptional — as in obtuse, sometimes.
Hmm, all the places where there has been internal or foreign subsidization of Ponzi food prices. At least when the US Ponzi medical spending system hits the wall it will affect mostly us old folks.
The US and European farm subsidies have dislocated foreign markets and put foreign farmers out of business and increased food prices as a function of oil prices. Now that people need food they are not there yet.
I wrote a post titled ‘Jefferson in Tunis’ a few hours back. It disappeared in no time flat, – wonder why? Was it the title, or the report of 60 dead; something I said, but what?
Excellent post. Tying the US together with Tunisia is perfectly appropriate, as they are closely aligned with the US government. Obama provided moral support for the President right up until he ran from the country, then it was all about the brave people of Tunisia. The US and Saudi Arabia are shitting their pants over this, because it could spread. It’s apparent that the US is losing clout in pushing it’s agenda; dictatorial support and preference for repressive regimes and weak democracies aren’t endearing them with the people.
I’ve been reading the Angry Arab’s blog about Tunisia. He doesn’t show the comparisons with our government like you do you, but he’s trustworthy, unlike the BBC, NYT etc..
Amen on the great post. but Lets, suppose you could force a resignation, what is your alternative. Of course Biden would become president, and next Boehner (?) but who then? While we might wish the 2012 candidate would be Kucinich, I seriously doubt the Democratic part would muster that level of moral imagination.
The Niebuhr quote at the end of the Brooks column some Lake folks have denigrated, somewhat affirms Scarecrow’s skepticism that the long arc of history bends toward justice, at least at the speed we would wish, if not pray for. My simplistic reading of history sees that most of the time the movement is very slow indeed, often with frustrating steps backward. It remains to be seen whether the Tunisian experience really produces radical, just realities. Or that we have the capacity to invite and embrace a radical change,
as Scarecrow notes in his reflection on the NewsHour’s American
speaker.
It seems to me that what is needed is a totally radical change in the moral imagination that is so massively shared and promulgated that its enemies, representing the darkness, can not overcome the light of that transformed moral imagination. I do not see an articulater for creating such a vision, much less capable of bringing us all together (including the right) capable of overturning the darkness.
Thanks again to Scarecrow for a magnificent essay and to those whose comments expand upon the dream’s invitation.
Blessings to all
I have a maternal uncle buried in Tunisia. He came into World War II at just the time the American and British forces were joining from west and east to push the Germans out of North Africa into Italy, and was immediately killed. There is an excellent recent description of the North African campaign – I think it is called “An Army at Dawn.” That’s where I finally learned what was actually happening the day my uncle died.
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http://firedoglake.com/2011/01/15/pull-up-a-chair-229/#comment-2289518
Thank you so much Scarecrow. I made the connection immediately and wondered if anyone else would see our own divide between the elite and the rest of us in the mirror of Tunisia. Of course you did an excellent job of laying out the argument. Thank you so much.
I wonder when the elites will learn that wealth needs to flow in a circle and include everyone in a community (what a foreign word that is) vs. being vacuumed out of your competitors’ pockets.
The term “moral imaginations” is disgusting, coming from this source…..
….because the people responsible for perpetrating the corruption and hate-mongering that have brought us to this point have no morality at all. They mimic human emotion and imagine how they can use their propaganda outlets to twist the meaning of morality, as tools with which to manipulate the rest of us into letting them work their evil, parasitizing what we produce, and the bounty of planet Earth.
See the Jeh Johnson speech, and the comments to Cynthia’s post for an example of the kind of twisting I mean.
http://my.firedoglake.com/cindykouril/2011/01/14/the-problem-is-he-never-said-that-the-saga-of-the-dod-mlk-day-speech/
Until we all understand what truly makes the ‘elite’ different from us, we will not be able to make a dent in changing our political reality. I suggest perusing the website from which the following is excerpted.
Political Ponerology is a study of the founders and supporters of oppressive political regimes.
…..the origin of evil actually lies outside the boundaries of the conventional worldview within which the earlier moral inquiries and literary explorations were conducted. Evil requires a truly modern and scientific approach to lay bare its secrets. This approach is called “ponerology”, the study of evil, from the Greek “poneros” = evil.
http://ponerology.com/
Ever wonder why monarchies are hereditary? So’s psychopathy. There’s no cure for it.
The problem of civilization is that psychopaths get to operate freely, because they can parasitize without doing productive work, living off the sweat of everyone else’s labor. They can slip away to another big city and start over, if they are in danger of being caught. Or they can co-opt an entire political regime and ponerize its citizens and moral ethos.
Here’s an hour documentary about psychopaths. They get to politicians near the end: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/218675-Documentary-Psychopath
although, shouldn’t we add that Tunisians felt “validated” by the observations revealed in the wikileaks that US felt that T was a police state? Just wondering how that factors into your comment. (curious, not confrontational here). thanks.
Tunisia appears to be experiencing a genuine popular revolution. The government never saw it coming. This is how popular revolutions always happen. The ingredients are there, and can be there for years or even decades, but it takes just a spark to set off the fireworks.
In this case, it was a desperate young man setting himself on fire after his food stand was destroyed by the authorities.
The problem for the ruling elites with popular revolutions is that the successful ones are always spontaneous and chaotic, and thus unpredictable, hence impossible to stop once they get going. Our own elites are no different; why do you think the Tunisian Revolution is being so ignored in the American media?
Because they are very, very afraid that the same can happen right here in America. And they’re right, it can, though they will never admit it and call people like me who say it can deranged.
My ever-popular side note on human overpopulation: The catalyst for the events in Tunisia was a young man’s suicide resulting from his being thwarted by his government from earning an honest living. We’ve added 2 billion people to the planet in the past 24 years while the quality of political leaders and governments worldwide (most of them intent on keeping their women quiet and submissive, primarily by being barefoot and pregnant) has remained the same or, worse, deteriorated. It will be interesting to see how and where this spreads.
Juan Cole’s posts on Tunisia events.
http://www.juancole.com/2011/01/tunisia-government-of-national-unity-or-tanks-in-the-street.html
http://www.juancole.com/2011/01/tunisia-between-democracy-and-anarchy.html
I read that even though the prime minister announced he was stepping up temporarily, he’s not the rightful successor. I believe the article said it’s the head of parliament. I read it in my local print version today. It might have been from Wapo.
More background to events in tunisia. For analysis Juan Cole is right on.
A curfew draws a day of fierce clashes to a close after forcing the Tunisian President to flee. http://www.newslook.com/videos/283693-curfew-halts-riots-in-tunisia?autoplay=true
Tunisian President Steps Down After Weeks of Riots
Tunisian Prime Minister Mohammed Ghannouchi says he is assuming power after the president of the North African country stepped down following weeks of riots. President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali had ruled Tunisia for the past 23 years. http://www.newslook.com/videos/283660-tunisian-president-steps-down-after-weeks-of-riots?autoplay=true
You owe me a drink.
How can the People wage a popular uprising as in Tunisia without resorting to violence? I don’t believe it can be done. For this reason, I’m unable to conceive of any positive change in the US which does not come about as the result of massive unrest, people in the streets attacking the institutions of oppression, looting palaces, etc.
FDR saw and understood that possibility (or likelihood) in response to the last depression and political Hooverism. The New Deal was the result. I had hoped that Obama saw the same potential in the current depression and would take appropriate steps with a New New Deal, but clearly I was mistaken. Obama is not FDR, Obama is Hoover.
How can the People put the elites’ feet to the fire without burning their mansions down in the process?
What American companies do business there will they leave soon?
What happens to globalization if other third world countries not just in Africa start getting more shaky thanks to a crappy world economy?
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What happens to the top Dow companies who all made record profits by outsourcing to third world countries to get lower costs if some of those countries start having revolutions or even worse the workers demand and get more pay?
I see a bunch of Dow companies saying that outsourcing was a bad idea in the next few years. I see Tom Friedman at the NY Times getting laughed at about “the World is Flat”.
I see tariffs in America’s future.
“What should the citizens of that nation do? And which country am I describing?”
Ummn…ummn…a country in the Axis of Evil(TM)? An evil Communist dictatorship? It’s certainly not the star-spangled, God-fearing, freedom-loving United States of America, no sirree, Bob! Is that what you were trying to imply? Huh? Huh? What are you some kind of pinko?
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An Afghani scholar, sorry I don’t know his name, has argued that the defeat of the Red Army in the Afghanistan/Russian war served as a signal to satellite countries of Russia that the Red Army was defeatable – something none had believed up until then – which in turn prompted those countries, about 20 I think, to rise up against and eventually kick out their former oppressors.
It’s a good guess that tyrannical and corrupt rulers world-wide are taking a hard look at today’s Tunisia – and not liking what they’re seeing.
How embarrassing it must be to see another American supported Dictator lose his job despite following America’s lead and watching Lefty Countries in South America get tons of American investment. Watching Semi Socialist India and Commie in Name only but still Commie China get American investment but America after 8 years of Bush and two years of Obama pursuing Bush’s economic policies and American corporations would rather invest in third world markets.
Tunisia just might be the start of American companies not wanting to invest unless its an American government deal in American puppet regimes.
The Wallstreet Journal is worried about the pampered Saudi’s overthrowing their leader what hope is there for our less pampered more oppressed puppets?
True I expect them to ban or regulate even more any social networking site or just cut phone and internet access completely during civil unrest.
I’d sure like to hear some answers to that, mgloraine. So often the wrong people have taken power after major upheavals and revolutions.
The wrong people always take over. See
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2wtQf7WNKo
Thanks kairossue. I’d prefer Biden. I know what Obama’s going to be like now. He’ll keep being complicit with economic frauds and torture and he’ll keep fighting endless wars in ways that will violate human rights. I’m not sure that Biden will do that so I think it would be preferable to give him a chance.
Also, Biden will likely be a caretaker for 2012. So the nomination will be open if Obama resigns. At that point, the Democrats at least have a shot at nominating someone who will be less morally corrupt than the current occupant of the White House. I don’t have much confidence they will, but it’s an improvement over the present situation.
Finally, we can’t underestimate the value of an Obama being hounded from office by people who are offended by his behavior and performance. It will deliver a message that people care about justice, and fairness, and doing what is read and that they can be heard. That example would really improve our political system in the future.
kairossue – you ask:
Of course Biden would become president, and next Boehner (?) but who then?
Next in line would be president pro-tempore of the senate. In the next congress, 2011-2013, that would be Daniel Inouye, D-HI.
But whoever would succeed to president, they would certainly call for an election to be held asap. I doubt they would want the job for long if the president, vp and speaker had all been run out of the country.
Oh, like the “internet kill switch” which Joe Lieberman and his pals have been touting. Gee, I wonder why American politicians would be pushing for something like that?
Exactly! Why else use it?
Poignant post!! .. another thread pulled loose causing a further unraveling of the collective “ball”?? .. let us hope so ..
[blockquote]If the elites don’t want enraged crowds ransacking their palaces, they need to broaden their imagination about what’s politically and morally possible, and even that may not save them in the end. Ask the Tunisians.[/blockquote]
Our elites? Won’t happen anytime soon. And if it does, it won’t be something we like. It’ll be teabaggers. We’re screwed, unless the left…well, we can’t go there, can we?
What left?
Thanks; I do shy away from superlatives; the world is so full of over-the-top language. And tyrants.
They used to be smart enough to let us win a few skirmishes. Now? Not so much. Short-sighted morons. Do they ever learn history in their Ivory Tower Schools?
Peterr is upstairs!
DOD Wonders if MLK Would Understand Today’s Wars?
“If the elites don’t want enraged crowds ransacking their palaces…”
I suppose you know that the rightards are scouring this and every other progressive blog for such examples of leftist calls for uncivility/violence.
Sadly, bad link to the sott.net. parsnip. Got another?
That’s the problem with revolutions, isn’t it? Who takes power when the dust settles? But if most of the people feel that any change will be an improvement, they pay with their lives on the line and take their chances.
Sometimes they get lucky. Americans certainly did. Twice.
There are many indications that we’ve hit global peak oil production. Most of the Saudi oil workers are in fact Palestinians. What happens if, when, they decide that the promises of the Saudi monarchy of a share of the oil wealth are worthless?
The only thing I can say for sure is that the Saudi monarchy will not survive. What happens after that is anyone’s guess.
So what? Scarecrow was not advocating violence against the elites; only pointing out that it is inevitable if they keep doing what they are doing, which they probably will. In 1932 they got lucky when one of their own, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, was elected President and had the good sense to see that if something major wasn’t done, that his class would be destroyed in a popular revolution.
In 2008, they got unlucky when a Fascist with a smiling face and a great oratorical style got elected by offering false hope to the great majority of people who were getting screwed. He just wants to help them screw us more with a generous dose of rhetorical Vasoline.
And they are too stupid to realize the longterm, or maybe not so longterm, consequences. If current trends continue, there WILL be violence against the elites, whether Scarecrow or I advocate it or not, and the “rightards” you mentioned will be irrelevant, or dead.
Tunisia is a warning.
Right now I see far more of that spirit on the right than on the left. So, from my point of view. The left seems to be the irrelevant corpus delicti at the moment.
Hmm. I viewed that now-missing documentary on pasychopaths on 12/6/10. I just checked some of my other similar bookmarks, for instance, a YouTube called ‘Pathocracy’ (a society run by psychopaths) and it was removed for ‘violating’ YouTube policy on content.
This may be the same documentary: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/psychopath/
But I found this at ThirdWorldTraveler, by one of the regular Sott.net writers:
Ponerology 101: The Political Psychopath, by Harrison Koehli
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/Political_Ponerology/Ponerology101_Psychopath.html
The latter is more focused on political psychopaths, and thus more what I was getting at in my comment above.
The search function at Sott.net isn’t working for me right now, but you might try searching it for their numerous articles on psychopathy, pathocracy, and articles by Laura Knight-Jadczyk. You can also google Robert Hare, Paul Babiak (Snakes in Suits); Hervey Cleckley’s ‘Mask of Sanity’ is (was?) online as a pdf. Here’s an article about it: http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm
[Cassiopaea is another Laura Knight-Jadczyk website]
Here’s a classic article: “Any profession which needs a written code of ethics is an inherently unethical profession,” by Robert Canup. This really sums up the Dodd-Frank kabuki, though it was written long ago: http://www.hal-pc.org/%7Ercanup/sap.html (this link still works!)
Was just being a little snarky after reading a lot of “incivility” snark in the Tom Tomorrow thread. But seriously…
“Scarecrow was not advocating violence against the elites…”
Of course not… just like they say Palin wasn’t advocating political violence with her target map.
“…only pointing out that it is inevitable if they keep doing what they are doing”
Sort of like Sharon Angle pointing out that second amendment solutions are inevitable if certain politicians keep doing things she doesn’t like.
Of course it’s a false equivalence, but there are analogies in the methods employed (from peaceful political mobilization thru warnings and threats of violence to acts of violence) between the competing ideologies. It’s just that it’d be more equivalent for us peasants once some serious ransacking of the MOTU commences (as in Tunisia).