You would think that a sentient President of the United States would be embarrassed, ashamed, and contrite after one of the more mindless and destructive governmental performances in years. Nope. Not the President who foolishly believes the federal government needs to tighten its belt because he’s clueless about the difference between families and the federal government. Has there ever been a Democratic President more befuddled about what leadership requires?
Having locked his own DemaPod Party into voting to slash $38 billion for their own programs, Mr. Obama didn’t apologize. Instead he thought it was a moment to make another speech urging you to visit the Washington Monument, as though he were George Bush telling you to visit Disneyland. Why anyone would want to watch this spectacle of a government and party betraying their followers and making fools of themselves from the top of the Washington Monument escapes me.
This President owes an explanation to the American people why, at a time when the nation’s critical needs are going unmet at both the federal and state levels, when 50 million people are without health insurance, record numbers in poverty, 14 million people are unemployed — millions for more than a year — and Governors are balancing their budgets on the backs of teachers, firemen, police, health and safety workers, etc, he thinks the right policy is to slash federal spending even though the wealthiest Americans control 40 percent of the wealth and just got hundreds of billions in tax cut gifts.
It is wrong, stupid, cruel, mindless. In short, it’s a mistake. [As Dean Baker reminds us,] Moody’s Mark Zandi just explained that giving the Zombies what they demand would cost up to 700,000 jobs. So if you give them 2/3 of that now, we’ll lose about 465,000 jobs just this round. Yet Obama did not bother to contradict Mr. Boehner, who told the media this package will “help create a better environment for job creators.” In which alternate universe? Is anyone watching Ireland, Portugal, the UK, where these same austerity policies are hurting their economies?
The final vote in favor of setting this travesty in motion was overwhelming, indicating the degree to which Pods and Zombies now control our government. Of course, the richest individuals and corporations walked away from this zombie feeding unscathed.
Worse, Obama and the DemoPods foolishly maneuvered themselves into providing more than enough votes for the “largest spending cuts” in our history just so the 40 or so craziest Tea-GOP zombies could vote still “no.”
That neat trick means the Tea-GOP zombies can avoid responsibility for the dirty work the Obama DemoPods just performed on their own base, but not offend their own zombie base. Then they can come back in the next round, only a month away to demand even more insane cuts than last night’s.
And if you care about the “leadership” imagery, John Boehner just made Barack Obama look like a helpless fool. Boehner will get a few dumb primary threats, but he’s got two more rounds of this to feed the Zombies and he’s perfectly positioned for that.
Worse, Boehner will receive kudos from the Village for getting more than he first demanded and more than he ever expected, at zero cost to his party, while getting credit for being what passes for an “adult” in our nation’s captial. Gosh, he’s not at all like the Zombies whose agenda he just furthered.
“Compromise” is what the polls said Democratic voters wanted, but where are the compromises with the elements voters wanted in the deal? Repeal tax breaks on the rich? Make GE and their ilk pay their share of taxes? Tax the banksters for their casino games? Stop fighting needless wars? Never even considered.
Instead, the “compromise” consisted of the DemoPods giving the Tea-GOP Zombies 2/3 of what they demanded in this hostage feeding, instead of 3/3. But the Zombies still hold the hostages, because this will all replay on the debt limit debate a month from now, when Obama leads the DemoPods to feed the Zombies again.
You really have to wonder how many real people becoming DemoPods it will take before the last human Democrats wake up screaming that Barack Obama is destroying the Party and hurting the country. How much destruction will it take for them to stand up and say, “enough! I won’t let you lead us over the cliff again.”
David Dayen provides a thorough survey of the wreckage and what it means. More human casualty lists are in the New York Times.



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Does anyone know the fate of the social riders? PP and EPA riders were curtailed, but what of the others? what are they, and how many are there?
Watching the President brag last night of capitulating to the Republicans and once again extolling his cave in on December’s tax breaks for the wealthy was all I could take.
I have sent a letter to the President asking him to retire. He is already the apple of Jamie Dimon’s eye and has done more than enough of the corporate world’s bidding. If he retires now he will be richer than Bill Clinton ever imagined. His retirement would allow for those folks who care about a Democratic party and the future of the country to actually do something about it. As it is, we are getting killed because we elected a suit emptier than the one Karl Rove put up for two elections.
I think the party will survive because obviously the working people have awaken to the fact that the Repubs aren’t representing them. I cannot imagine that having seen the raw hand of the Repubs working people are going to accept Republican light b.s. from the Dems. It is time to get the pitch forks out. What happened last evening was merely an intro. Monday morning the phones on Capitol Hill need to light up and people need to tell Harry Reid and Barack Obama that the Democrats are not a subsidiary of the Chamber of Commerce.
And for those of you who are going to reply that I need to go third party or go Green, I did check out the Greens in my area. They consist of one person. That is not an alternative if you ask me.
Details? You want to know what was actually cut? Silly. Trust them.
First rule: If the Zombies wanted it out, you don’t want to watch.
Last I saw, DC lost it’s ability to fund family planning with it’s own local taxes. Other details will presumably trickle out, but the deed is done.
Here’s how Speaker Boehner spins it:
http://www.speaker.gov/Blog/?postid=235069
And more details from FDL News’ David Dayen:
http://news.firedoglake.com/2011/04/09/the-ugly-the-ugly-and-the-ugly-a-look-at-the-2011-funding-deal/
This is the second coming of hOOver. Double dip is on its way. Jerks.
What’s really irritating about this episode is that the batcrap crayzee teabaggers got D’s to capitulate (shocking, I know) with no ugly government shutdown to create a backlash against teh crayzee.
Is there any remaining doubt that the Democratic Party has an obstacle to progress and that the time has come to say goodbye to it?
Once again the White House and mandarins of the Democratic Party have thrown women and the poor overboard for short-term political gain.
Prediction: Barack Obama will be the last Democratic president of the U.S. Ever.
Wasn’t Carter the last Democratic President? Clinton was DLC which is practically a front group for the R party.
You’re right. This presidency is worse than Clinton’s in a wide variety of categories, but both will have the same result: the occupant of the White House will betray every imaginable constituency (aside from wealthy donors) in order to win a second term. That said, Obama is hardly a cinch for re-election, even against an awful GOP field. As you said downthread, we’re headed for a double-dip recession. Soaring gas prices and an inevitable interest-rate hike will make it especially painful.
I grew hoarse from yelling corrections at Obama — well, at my TV….
Obama got more than he could ever dream of to sell out the little chumps.
The chumps expect better next time, that’s why they’re chumps.
Him and his wife are laughing it up another vacation, another state dinner, idiots falling all over themselves when obama graces them with his presence before he shoves it in further.
We’re in ….deep shit and the obamas are shitting on the life preservers.
Obama tries to have it both ways: He fought the good fight, but was Forced to Cave (phrase from LibbyLiberal at Corrente). So, somehow, the bad stuff won’t be his fault, but he can claim bragging rights for cuts to needed services.
What a jerk.
I want a pin that reads:
Obama
F2C
Forced to Cave
To wear on my 2L4O t-chirt.
Heh– Obama, Time to Go. T2G.
So from now on, austerity on the backs of the poor and middle-class, along with untouched military spending, is the new normal.
There is no way you could convince me this could have happened under a Repub president. The Dems would have grandstanded against it.
Can someone explain this “LOTE” thing to me again?
Fuck them. Fuck them all.
Have you seen the Policy Rider list? Take a look.
http://amovingworld.blogspot.com/2011/04/who-won-budget-deal.html
“…the President who foolishly believes the federal government needs to tighten its belt because he’s clueless about the difference between families and the federal government.”
thank you, thank you, thank you.
not enough people saying this, but a scarecrow counts for a lot…. and helps tilt the balance in the right direction. thank you!
I second that. I have my 2L4O shirt also.
He’s not “clueless” and “befuddled”, he’s an enemy … a conscious enemy …. of the working people in this country and what the democratic party purports to stand for. And, again, not an accidental enemy; this is no idiot. He’s simply a modern day republican that couldn’t get elected as a black man in the republican party so he played a democrat for a while. He couldn’t do more to destroy the democratic party’s values “if” he intentionally wanted to … and he does.
In regards to the budget “compromise” it shouldn’t be separated from the “cave” on the continuation of the upper end bush tax cuts. On the tax cut “compromise”, the republicans got damn near everything they wanted except for … supposedly … the continuation of unemployment benefits up to 99 weeks. Though obama postured that he got some tax cuts for the working man that the republicans didn’t want, for the most part that was bullshit … the republicans wanted those tax cuts too. He also got the chance to sell the tax cut deal to his pathetic base as a stimulus. Having democratic control of both the house and senate at the time, he didn’t drive a bargain for a budget resolution and left that exposed to a republican house and a strengthened republican hand in the senate … better to compromise with.
The current “cave in”, which really imo is exactly what the head pr man of the establishment always wanted, now cuts most if not all of that stimulus that he used to justify the bush tax cuts. But now due to the latest republican supposed demand, obama gets to posture that he protected women’s rights when he “compromised” to the republicans for more social spending cuts.
So, the pattern on both of these situations is this: the republicans threaten some action that really would be to their political detriment: cutting off unemployment benefits/closing down the government, but then obama bails their asses out and gives them the stuff that they really want (tax cuts for the rich/cutting social programs), which is exactly what obama wants as well, but it gives him the opportunity to portray himself to his demo-zombie base as saving unemployment benefits/women’s rights and keeping the government open.
The effects of these two actions are this: the rich got their tax cuts and the working class paid for it in the form of further decreasing the social safety net when the opposite is needed now more than ever.
Z
Sounds likes Scarecrow is done with OBAMA
the Dem Base is following Wisconsin
Yes! Obama is trying to lose in 2012
Obama has to worry about becoming Clarence Thomas, some say he already is.
The elites know OBAMA is done, a black candidate like OBAMA can’t win without the left.
the power of the corporate Media is on full display, I can’t find anyone that like what OBAMA is doing, we connect to 4 million people plus!
Polls always favor the RICH, thanks to the Media
I expect the OBAMA train to wreck big time, around JUNE
Me thinks a DEM revolt is coming, led by the base
Guess I’m slow this morning, or showing my ignorance again but
2L40 = ? (Tool for Zero?)
The Republicans have convinced the nation that liberal policies, the new deal, compassionate progressive government have all trashed our country. Obama and the Dems are in fervent agreement.
Obama is the best thing that could have happened to the Republicans. They get to bash him while he does all of their dirty work. When they are done with Obama (which will be next year because he helped them further tank the economy), there will be no Medicare, no Social Security, no taxes on the rich and no Democratic party.
We need a new party that understands that our unconstrained capitalism has destroyed the country. How bad do things need to get?
Failing to understand the difference between family finances and federal government finances is profoundly ignorant. Continuing to use the talking point after one has been told repeatedly that there is a fundamental difference between the two is criminally negligent.
Too Liberal for Obama
I predict that the next President will be a Republican: either Obama or his GOP opponent.
As far as I can tell, Obama’s only skill is giving speeches.
Twitter Nitwit and Troll Dave Woodhouse praises the neo-cons and disasters capitalists of the Obama Admistration. The histpric sellout against long odds is worthy of great contempt. Obama does not use posturing and finger pointing. But Obama does reward Teabaggers who do posture and finger point and pout like babies.
There are few sycophants as sickening as Woodhouse.
Very sad. Is there any reason why we can’t start pushing for Bernie Sanders right now? I expect nothing constructive to ever come from Obama. Why even discuss him further?
Speaking from the White House after the Republican meeting ended, Mr. Obama said that both sides gave ground in reaching the bargain and that some of the cuts accepted by Democrats “will be painful.”
Where have we heard this story before.
“Me thinks a DEM revolt is coming, led by the base”
I certainly hope so. As it stands, I am voting agaisnt Obama to remove him, which means Rethuglican. Better the wolf outside your door that you can rally against than the cancer inside that eats you from within.
I agree, Zeabow. Once again, it needs to be said Obama is not stupid, or weak or befuddled. He is a very aggressive, sinister, cynical person, and will fight when his own interests are at stake. He just does not want to stick his neck out to fight for you. He wants to give cover to the Republicans and help them advance their talking points and propaganda, so he can further their steady agenda of radically taking from the working classes–social security, homeownership, medical deductibility, medicare etc.
Obama is a traitor to the working people. He will throw you under the bus in a second if that will further his own monetary and electoral interests. So, Obama is not weak or stupid. He is just not a good person. Did anyone see that picture of Obama as Batman’s joker? The red ring around his eyes, the smile on his face. Just seems to show the soul of Obama perfectly, I am sorry to say.
I agree, Zeabow. Once again, it needs to be said Obama is not stupid, or weak or befuddled. He is a very aggressive, sinister, cynical person, and will fight when his own interests are at stake. He just does not want to stick his neck out to fight for you. He wants to give cover to the Republicans and help them advance their talking points and propaganda, so he can further their steady agenda of radically taking from the working classes–social security, homeownership, medical deductibility, medicare etc.
Obama is a traitor to the working people. He will throw you under the bus in a second if that will further his own monetary and electoral interests. So, Obama is not weak or stupid. He is just not a good person. Did anyone see that picture of Obama as Batman’s joker? The red ring around his eyes, the smile on his face. Just seems to show the soul of Obama perfectly, I am sorry to say.
Was that ghost written by Britney Spears?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grvpyepkD2o
“where are the compromises with the elements voters wanted in the deal? Repeal tax breaks on the rich? Make GE and their ilk pay their share of taxes? Tax the banksters for their casino games? Stop fighting needless wars? Never even considered.”
The government is not listening to the people. Many Obama apologists have adopted the totally unsatisfactory strategy of protecting the ship captain while the ship continues to sink. When will people realize that the cost of silently supporting Obama while he sells out to the corporate aristocracy is too great? When there are no more Unions? When collective bargaining rights have been destroyed? When the next financial crisis occurs? When there is no more middle class?
For God’s sake, millions of unemployed people are so desperate they have resorted to WORKING FOR FREE just to keep their skills and resumes updated. This is a MODERN FORM OF SLAVERY!
When is enough going to be enough for Obama excuse artists? When is enough going to be enough for the middle class loony tunes who are members of the tea party and support polices that are going to wind up coming back to hurt them? When is enough going to be enough for conservatives who support a Republican Party that quietly adopts neofascist policies?
When are people going to FORCE the government to listen to THE PEOPLE instead of playing petty politics in the midst of the greatest economic and social justice crisis and conflict in the last 150 years?
Obama must be defeated at the next election, at the cost of a Repub president for a few years. Must must must.
Obama thinks he is smarter than he really is, and somehow thinks he knows economics because he associates with bankers. There are no real economists left in his administration. For all his pro-banking faults, Larry Summers was a true economist, and would have whisphered quite different things in the President`s ear had he not been effectively cashiered. Summers made some big mistakes, most particularly in thinking that a small stimulus could pull the economy out of the slump, but he would not make the kind of mistakes Obama has systematically and willingly made since he lost the mid-terms.
On domestic policy Obama is an empty shirt. Some here said so from the start. I wasn`t one of them.
This a leaderless President! The article is spot on! Goodbye jobs, go bye American progress to smiles and we did it together with SHARED sacrifice!!!!!!
“DemoPods feed Tea-Gop Zombies.”
That’s just way too cool. Like off the hook…
Coming soon to a progressive blog near you: Endless reasons to “RE-ELECT THE PRESIDENT!!”
(Is it the lesser of two evils yet?)
The president works through fig leaves.
lieberman, nelson, lincoln, bayh, during health care, rahm as general shit eater, geithner to the banksters, and now the republicans.
He will ‘embrace’ what he wants them to bring.
He will never state a commitment to anything, but like he did last night and this putrid address, bathe in the glow of a teleprompter and spew the canned verbiage that now makes him only a lesser evil.
Anthony Weiner has already said that this deal smells like the bush tax cut deal.
It was obvious that when pence tossed in the rider about PP that the republican ‘strategy’ will now become, take a program hostage and negotiate a concession.
The predicate for this strategy, and it’s success, came with yesterday’s caving.
The republicans will take programs hostage to make a deal and the president will be complicit.
The dems are spineless little protozoans, and this country is going to be tormented by the republican’s sociopathy for the next two years.
Aided and abetted by the president of detachment.
They live, we sleep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcidKce8tGE
The smartest — and simplest — thing I ever read about Obama was written by Digby: She wrote that he always takes one from column A and one from column B. Unfortunately, A and B are often incompatible — even contradictory. He either doesn’t understand or he doesn’t care. Compromise is the default position. And if compromise is one’s default, pre-compromise is often one’s first move.
He is not at all into disabusing Americans of their worst tendencies or notions. He would rather go with and use those tendencies or weaknesses even when they’re wrong.
YES WE CAN, CAMPAIGN 2008, so I voted for Obama and against McSame and look what we got.
2008-2011 YES–WE CAN’T TAX THE WEALTHY OR MAKE CORPORATIONS PAY TAXES!!!!! But we can give tax revenue refunds to these Wealthy people and Corporations.
Let’s sock it to the “little people.” They can’t fight back!!!!!!
Obama and his friends will be richer than Bill Clinton.
I am not happy with this deal but it never should’ve come to this if our majority held Dem congress would’ve done their job last year. They didn’t tackle either the budget or repealing tax extensions. They buckled, tucked their tales and went home hoping to be re-elected. We need to elect real progressives. We need to target those blue dog Democrats that always side against us. Learn from the teabaggers.
Very aptly stated. I can’t wait for the debt ceiling vote. Sheesh!
That is ridiculous and totally false. The President, or alleged President failed the Democrats in Congress just as he failed the Democrats who elected him. Obama turned the Government over to neo-cons, while he waged war and protected financial fraudsters.
Obama pushed neo-con policies while slandering liberals. Your arguement is White House propaganda. Just the same as Bushie lies. Obama deserves all the blame. He continues to help Teabaggers and KochWhores. Obama helps the neo-cons and Teabaggers make war against the American people. Obama is a terrorist.
His permanent “residence” is in “Disneyland”….or is it “LaLa Land”. This guy is about as clueless as though he were a visiting spirit of a long-gone 19th Century village idiot.
I voted for him twice in 2008….but I will NOT be making that mistake again. At the risk of further diminishing what was a GREAT country which I was privileged to fight for in WWII….or even contributing to its ultimate destruction…I will vote AGAINST Obama in any and all future elections. Hey! I can’t really go wrong…..HE is already DESTROYING IT so fast I can hardly keep track of the descent!
Thank you.
About your First rule, I think the entire country should see the behind the scenes details.
Regardless of their public propaganda Obama, and Reid in particular, have so weakened the congressional Left all Boehner and McConnell need to do is hand the bats over and Dems are perfectly willing to destroy themselves.
2012 ain’t going to be pretty.
Just wanted to thank you for your service in WWII. You must be getting up there in years but you write like an angry young man, and I hope you are around for many more years. (Hopefully even long enough to see this country start to turn around again.)
Okay, if what you say is true provide me links so I can read up on it.
Comparisons of Obama to Carter and Clinton only reveal how far down we’ve spiraled since those two.
For me–and many dems at the time (remember the Kennedy primary challenge?)–Carter was a sell-out.
Same thing with Clinton–even moreso than Carter.
Yep, Clinton was a tool all right, but at least felt like fighting on rare occasion. And Carter–a moderate by 70′s standards–would be considered a flaming lefty nowadays.
Yet, both of those two–reviled by the left at the time–sure look a ton better than this current thing we elected.
Thanks, I was trying to figure out what Too Low For O meant.
I agree he’s not as smart as he thinks.
Beyond that, I think he’s smart enough for government work.
Imho, his real problem is one of character–he strikes me as someone who is just happy as can be “being president”. Sure, his principles are neo-liberal and that’s the side he’ll come down on every time, but as a political actor he’s lazy. A smart neo-liberal democrat would on occasion throw a few bones to the masses. Not this guy.
Well, that’s the conundrum.
Rather than a repub, I think I’ll look for a nice 3rd party here in Iowa.
Who knows, maybe some local in these parts will challenge him at the caucuses.
Actually, I thought it was “Too Late For Obama”, as in, give it up. I so regret my foolishness. Hillary would have been the better choice and everything that Bill said was true. GAWD, how stupid could I get??? Idiot. Is it the Dems? Or can some Dem take over the helm? Will Wasserman-Shultz lean on Hillary? Has Dem cred been so ruined by the Big O that no Dem has a chance in hell this go round? Are we doomed? Sure feels like it.
If I hear him say “we all have to take a haircut” one more time, I am probably going to throw something threw my tv. How can he claim to be a man of God and stand there lying to us is beyond me.
“Everyone” did NOT take a haircut. The oil companies didn’t. The rich didn’t. The Pentagon didn’t. Corporations didn’t. From what I can tell, the only ones among us with shorter hair are the poor, the elderly and children.
Class warfare is over. We, the masses have lost and with it the failure of the American Experiment. We can only hope extinction of Homo Sapian is quick, once Mother Nature realizes the mistake in eveolution that brought us into existance.
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“Me thinks a DEM revolt is coming, led by the base.”
The Koch brothers and other corporate leaders will never allow that to happen. Just look at what they did in Wisconsin. Stole that election right out from under our noses. AND in a rather obvious and shameless way, too.
lol!
I feel just like you
the poor are going BALD! due to many hair cuts
I can’t wait to see how OBAMA explains tax cuts for the rich and budget cuts for the poor.
I sorta feel bad for OBAMA kids, their Dad will be one of the most hated people in the USA.
Obama does not care about any of our kids future.
The need to bash Bill Clinton in many posts critical of Obama is getting old. If you want absolution for supporting Obama over H. Clinton, see a priest. Clinton did a great many things that hurt the middle class deeply. I am not a Clinton fan. But it’s worth recalling that:
1. Clinton did not have a “great recession” that had discredited the opposition.
2. Anything like the mandate in congress or with the public that Obama started with.
Still, in the 2 years when the Democrats controlled both chambers Clinton:
1. Used up a huge amount of political capital and put some Democrats in congress in jeopardy by getting a tax bill more progressive than anything Obama has proposed enacted into law.
2. Used up large amounts of additional capital trying to get real health care reform passed, and rejected the Dole/Obama plan as worse than nothing.
The rich surely got richer under Clinton, but poverty declined significantly and 3 of the very few years when the median wage increased occurred while Clinton was president.
@gregorio
Yeah, at least with the Clintons there never was a love-fest between them and the repubs. Bubba may have sold dems out most of the time, but he relished punking the goppers from time to time.
At least he was good theater.
Left off the point I was trying to make…
It should be incredibly clear now that the Dems aren’t interested – and likely couldn’t recover if they were – in taking back their place as elected leaders whose job is to represent the interests of Left half of the country.
I want this to be the turning point to a real drive for a third party
The enormous numbers of voters representing the Left half of the United States have been trod upon and, in fact, have been deliberately left out. Instead, we’ve become their and their corporate donors whipping boys.
We need a third party, now.
I salute you as well.
My dad, an Irish immigrant’s son and a dyed in the wool FDR dem was also a WW2 vet who could spot a gop-loving dem a mile away–and would let everyone know it. Like you.
Get real. A 3rd party candidate won’t win. I lay some of the blame for the mess we’re in at the feet of Ralph Nader in 2000. If he hadn’t run and siphoned key votes from Gore’s campaign, where would we be today. I still smolder over that idiot. He is just as cupable for the mess we’re in as Obama.
Therefore what can be done for 2012? How about a Democratic Challenger in the primaries – that is if someone emerges that embraces the true principles of the party. Unfortunately, no white knight appears to be on the horizon. I’m afraid we will have our choice of poison in 2012: Republican or Republican Lite. You choose.
Is there a possibility a true Progressive Dem could emerge in a primary fight? Then the “lesser of two evils” becomes a moot point. I’m not optimistic though.
I think it a mistake to compare the 2 parties at all, whether one or the other is worse, or even to state that they are the same. Each harms us in somewhat different ways, each needs to be approached differently. Making any comparison in fact accepts the 2-element framework, where we are subservient to one or the other, and can argue about it.
The debate should be 3-cornered at least, with the 3rd factor being what builds the progressive* movement on its own terms. If we are caught up in Dem vs. Republican, even in talking about what best furthers the proletarian revolution, we are distracted from building the movement. In building the movement, we can them move to oppose the Republicans as they need to be opposed, and oppose the Democrats as they need to be opposed.
*I use the term “progressive” rather loosely, when I could be trying to find a more precise terminology, such as radical, revolutionary, libertarian, anarchist, pacifist or socialist. I do so because I start with progressive as those with pro-people principles of whatever stripe, and then include all those from there on to the farther left. I think that is the rough bloc that needs to be united against the hierarchies of both Dems and Republicans, even though there exist great differences within that bloc.
Give Obama credit for his canny negotiating strategy of only selling out women’s health and reproductive rights in a single state-ish area. This way he can still sell out women’s health and reproductive rights in the other 50 states, plus Puerto Rico and Guam, in future negotiations.
I disagree with your initial premise that “Republicans have convinced the nation that liberal policies, the new deal, compassionate progressive government have all trashed our country,” and O believe the polls bear that out. On issue after issue, as Cenk Uygur has described many times now, a majority of the American public supports the progressive option — Social Security, Medicare, Public Option, Gay Marriage, and on and on.
I would further add that Barack Obama won the presidency in 2008 with rhetoric in support of very progressive positions. If Americans hadn’t wanted change to the left, I would contend that Obama never would have won.
So the problem isn’t as much the public, although 30 years of Republican propaganda has made it very difficult for the majority public opinion to be portrayed accurately in the media thereby making it hard for the majority to combat the small percentage of right wing extremists whose message IS presented as the majority opinion. The problem is that there is almost nobody in the Obama administration or the halls of congress who represents the vast majority of people in this country.
We are regularly conned by the corporate media into believing that this is not the case, that we are a center right nation and that therefore Democrats must, again and again, move to the right in order to represent the true middle of the American population. And Democrats do nothing to change this narrative because, as I said, they no longer represent anything close to the middle, let alone the left in this country.
I have a question…I checked out the roll call vote at the nytimes link and Speaker of the House, John A.Boehner, R, OH-8, didn’t even vote on this one! The only person on the list, there are 9 dems and 5 repubs, who had an excuse for not voting was Gabrielle Giffords, understandably so, but check out what others didn’t even bother to vote. Do you think they are worried?
I think it’s fairly standard for the Speaker to not vote (assuming the vote is not particularly close or anything). IIRC, most of the official Speakers over the years have not voted more often than they have voted.
Bernie Sanders just post this to face book!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439×852021
“A last-minute deal was reached near midnight on Friday for $38.5 billion in spending cuts. Another stopgap spending measure will keep the government running until next week when Congress is to vote on the budget agreement. It makes steep cuts in programs for working families, such as Head Start for children and Pell grants for college students.”
So working families, Head Start and pell grants got cut. Tell me again HOW this is supposed to help the middle class and poor? Averted a shutdown on the backs of the middle class — AGAIN.
What are they going to give up NEXT week? Is there anything else that is still left?
“Change We Can Believe In.” REALLY?
Me thinks Bernie is DONE with OBAMA!
More Dems will soon have to jump off the Obama train, because the Obama train is going crash and their will be no survivors, get off why u can
Thank U BERNIE!!!
Bernie is the only real American in Congress! Period
Watching the President brag last night of capitulating to the Republicans and once again extolling his cave in on December’s tax breaks for the wealthy was all I could take
The tax breaks was my “yell at Obama on the TV” moment. Some here were more prescient (or lenient at 2nd and 3rd chances) than I.
-stewartm
and somehow thinks he knows economics because he associates with bankers. There are no real economists left in his administration.
The sad saga of the economic policy of Obama’s administration can be summed up thusly: too many businessmen and not enough college professor eggheads.
(And that’s quite unlike FDR).
-stewartm
I disagree. Gore siphoned off key votes from Nader’s campaign.
The fact is, Nader represented the interests of the vast majority of Americans far better than Gore (or Kerry), and McKinney certainly represented our interests to a greater extent than Obomber.
I hope that Sanders, who I like in general, will finally stand up to obama instead of caving to him like he did on the health care bailout bullshit bill. That was a time that he could have made more of a difference and he didn’t … just like Feingold and Kucinich caved. And for what? To make sure the sorry ass head pr man of the establishment … who is really a republican more than a democrat … could get campaign contributions from the health care corporations and piss away … on purpose imo … the majority he had in the house and weaken democrat control of the senate? Which made it all the easier to “compromise” and end up at corporate sanctioned “solutions” to the great problems this country faces.
Again, I like Sanders in general, but he caved on that and there were some serious consequences to that that we are paying for.
I also liked Sanders railing on greenspan, but not his nonsensical comment that he believed that greenspan was well-intentioned. He ought to know better. greeenspan is about as well-intentioned as the pope of hope.
Z
How does obama’s vacuous slogan (winning the future) jibe with cutting back on pell grants and head start?
I f’ing hate that cynical, deceitful, lying sack of sh*t. And I’m beginning to hate all the arrogant idiots that unconditionally support him as he destroys all that they purportedly hold dear.
Z
Yeah, I think Thomas Ferguson nailed it with this:
The Story Behind Obama’s Remarks on FDR
http://www.newdeal20.org/2010/11/18/the-story-behind-obamas-remarks-on-fdr-27539/
“This is a MODERN FORM OF SLAVERY!” Rushbo said this on his radio show. I don’t think all these posters on here are truly all disappointed progressives. a few infiltrated teabaggers, I think, to spur the debate.
David Dayen is upstairs!
Gbagbo Poisons the Well for Legitimate Leadership in Ivory Coast
This country, from the middle-class down, is totally, completely, thoroughly, unequivocably, irreparably, and undeniably FUCKED.
The rape and betrayal is complete and bald-faced.
Sorry, Lyndon Johnson was the last Democratic President. Carter was the guy who tried his best to balance budgets during stagflation and refused to use price controls and rationing for the oil spike. Carter looked like a Democrat o you because he was socially liberal. But on economics he was just a technocrat who was good at arithmetic, but terrible at economics who relied more on Alice Rivlin than John Kenneth Galbraith and fought with Teddy Kennedy.
Pointus (above) is absolutely correct.
I’ll assert (with no proof) that most people who voted for Nader would not have voted for Gore/Clinton/Lieberman.
His speech was the most awful drivel I have ever heard; blabbering on about the Washington monument and the wonderful agreement reached with the deplorable Republicans. At least with the Republicans you can always tell which side they are on. I really don’t see how this man can get re-elected, because most of us who supported him are long gone, however I do see over at Daily Kos some people are still hanging on to their illusions.
Not even that. His speech last night was clueless.
The revolt of the Dem base happened already – in 2010. The surge of voters who put BO and the Dems in office stayed home. Dem voter turnout was down about 40 percent from 2008 to 2010.
Realizing that politicians get elected by the people who vote and not by the people who stay home, the Dems decided to appeal to those who voted in November 2010 – the TeaPers.
More than a few folks who post here have mentioned that they turn off the tv and radio when BO comes on. Those people must have recoiled when they innocently clicked on the link to this diary and the video at the top popped up.
A warning about upcoming content might prevent the need for an extra dose of high blood pressure medicine for fellow FDLers. Any suggestions?
What a trainwreck. The country is fucked, but hey, at least the Washington Monument is open.
“Historic” tax cuts for the rich and budget cuts FTW! What a gutless, clueless putz.
We made a huge mistake electing this man.
Saw a headline at HP saying O was having trouble with his dwindling white voters. I keep thinking that an appropriate thing might be to send him an email saying I will never vote for him again and give at least 2-3 reasons why (God knows the numbers are not becoming endless)with the assumption that that might be more productive/effective (????) than ranting here or elsewhere. What if we all did what I’m proposing instead of what we usually do to no avail.
Blessings
For your own emotional health, just don’t spend more time composing your email than the WH intern who reads it will spend pressing the “delete” button.
I don’t know, I’m not finding
We Suck Slightly Less
all that inspirational as a Presidential, Party and campaign slogan.
The New Democratic Math:
Lesser Evil + Lesser Evil +Lesser Evil x Bipartisan Compromise=> Evil
So much for the 60% super majority myth. All you need is 40 people. This was always obvious. Hold the war machine hostage and the Democrats could have gotten anything they wanted. They really didn’t want control, as if they feared their own weakness.
Excellent post, Scarecrow.
Obama is either a lying POS, an SMP (a Sellout of Massive Proportions), or a complete moron who, as you say, is entirely “befuddled about what leadership requires.”
Obama will spend the next year trying to convince the American people that the Republicans are the problem.
No, Obama.
People like you are the problem.
Americans voted for a leader in 2008.
They got you instead.
I do know he threw the people of DC, a majority African-American area, under the bus. He let a vicious, mean-spirited “rider” on prenancy termination go thru, in appeasement of the Rebaggin anti-choice forces. Of course it basically affects low-income women.
Nice shot, big-little O!
Well, I guess your political situation is hopeless. You can just sit and pout. You’re excused.
It’s hardly just the president who makes this error. I remember single-payer advocates clamoring back in 2009 for the CBO to score HR 676, not really understanding that a system that screws families through the private sector can be more deficit-neutral than one providing government protection against the human rights outrage of medical bankruptcy.
Yep. Thank goodness the Washington Monument was open Saturday.
“…If Americans hadn’t wanted change to the left,…”
I agree.
“Larry Summers was a true economist”
save us from “true economists” then. and don’t let them anywhere near policy making.
obama didn’t get his batshit crazy economic ideas (if he even half believes what he says) from nowhere. summers was his head econ guy and therefore bears some responsibility for the irresponsible econ statements made by our president and his administration.,
whatever larry summers is, his political economic policies have killed a lot of people. being smart, if he is as smart as his advocates say, only serves to condemn him further — as in he should have known better. or perhaps he did.
“not really understanding that a system that screws families through the private sector can be more deficit-neutral than one providing government protection”
ralphbon, not sure i’m getting your point…. wasn’t the idea of cbo scoring to get the cost re total national healthcare expenditure? (which is the figure that matters, not the fed deficit)?
(that said, i do wish i could re-write a couple of my old hcr diaries re my use of % of gdp)
Obama showing up at the Lincoln Memorial yesterday telling everyone that they’re keeping the monuments open for the people and “that’s what America is all about.” Martin Luther King is rolling over in his grave about now.
The Story Behind Obama’s Remarks on FDR
http://www.newdeal20.org/2010/11/18/the-story-behind-obamas-remarks-on-fdr-27539/
Yes, I was aware of that particular Big Lie–that the accusation that FDR “did nothing” (to the Austrian school yokels) boils down to the fact that he refused to become the new Hoover and continue Hoover’s policies.
Well, you can’t accuse Obama of the same. He eagerly embraced being the new Bush, or the new Reagan.
-stewartm
Obama does not care about any of our kids future.
That’s the other thing that outraged me in the speec–him carping on “it’s for the CHILDREN” when what he’s actually agreeing to is *against* the best interests of those very same children.
What do those children need more? To have the Washington Monument open for their next school trip? Or to have, say, health care?
-stewartm
whatever larry summers is, his political economic policies have killed a lot of people. being smart, if he is as smart as his advocates say, only serves to condemn him further — as in he should have known better. or perhaps he did.
Summers, being from Harvard, is an educated idiot. American education in the Era of Reagan has sadly become all about building the right resume, acing the SAT, the GRE, and other standardized tests, and “networking” with the right people. Not about actually knowing your stuff, having a passion for your study, or spending “wasting” time doing gedanken experiments about your field.
Neoliberals repeat ad nauseum the “fact” that America’s economic troubles are the result of a lack of “competitiveness” due to not enough education (funny, they don’t say much about our lack of competitiveness due to the fact we don’t improve or even maintain our infrastructure, which if anything is even more critical). But the simple fact is that we have, in my opinion, *too many* PhDs, and of the wrong kind. Now we have BS and MS people in jobs that used to require a high school education or 2-year degree, and PhDs in jobs that used to require a BS or MS degree. And there’s not a single good reason for this change, except to further depress (in effect) American wages.
But more to the point–we get PhDs nowadays who became PhDs for all the wrong reasons. When financial success or even entry into the field didn’t depend on a PhD, most “careerists” got BS or MS degrees–that was all they needed to do their job, so why get more? The PhD field was smaller, true, but it was composed of people who really loved the subject matter, who lived and breathed the subject matter, and who knew their stuff. That’s not true today, many PhDs are only marginally interested in actually practicing their discipline. Now many PhDs I know went into their field because they want to become–GAG–*managers*.
Now think of Larry Summers when you read all that above. Whatever drives the man, it’s not the study of economics.
-stewartm
If I hadn`t watched this farce play out I would not have believed the minds and souls of men could become so jaded and wicked. We are spending 10 billion a month in Iraq,Afghanistan,and now Libya and not one word this side of the Pauls is heard about such tax payer funded carnage.We will spend more money on murder and mayhem within the next ten days than the entire budget cutting compromise. The blood and gore oozing form Obama`s and Boehner`s pores would strangle a legion of vampires.If we brought home our forces from the 135 places they are fighting, eating, sleeping and whoring in we could cut the budget by 20% before Christmas. Liberal progressives are the most vile of these war mongers. They know that our imperialism will sooner or later lay us low like the old Romans and even Mongols. They keep the war machine well fueled so Obama can win in 2012 and save a woman`s right to chose; gay liberation; undocumented worker`s rights; and Obamacare. The fact that these programs are more important to them than the arms, legs,eyes,souls and lives of our soldiers speaks about how depraved they have become.
Zenostoa
Bonus points are in order for astute zombie references.
CBO scoring assesses the effect of legislation on the federal budget only. While total national healthcare expenditures would be drastically reduced under HR676, the proportion of those expenditures shifted to the federal budget would be drastically increased. So this speaks precisely to Scarecrow’s point about the difference between families and the federal government.
When Pelosi acceded to requesting a CBO scoring of HR 676 in September 2009 as a sop to the Progressive Caucus, Anthony Weiner (never a CPC member), and pesky SP advocates, she knew this. PDA warned members how the score was likely to turn out and attempted to develop talk points to explain why the key point would be the total savings, including from families’ pockets, not fully reflected in the CBO score.
The score turned out as expected, and though IIRC it was never published, the score did its part to further smother the wisps of 676 advocacy remaining in the discourse.
Wait, wait,Superman Light will go on f aux News and let them disrespected him. Then some on the left will say f aux did a bad thing. Superman Light is not up in the sky with the birds and the planes. He running along the ground and yelling like Chicken Little “The sky is falling”.That not even a believable lies. He can not leap over bull shit. His x ray vision is only good for distinguish his ass from a hole in the ground. I say we all should find some of those pet rocks that leftover from the 70s. Just rub them. They are kryptonite to a pragmatist like him.
Working Famlies Party? Start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Families_Party
“CBO scoring assesses the effect of legislation on the federal budget only.”
i’m pretty sure cbo does what is asked. and in previous years has looked at nhe, here are some examples:
http://www.pnhp.org/facts/single_payer_system_cost.php
also, dr. steve b specifically called for a more detailed cbo analysis to break down households by income levels. see for example, his post, “The CBO Analysis We Really Need”
http://my.firedoglake.com/selise/2009/06/22/drsteveb-the-cbo-analysis-we-really-need/
…….
i thought scarecrow was referring to something very different (than nhe vs fed budget) that i have been harping on for more than a year and a half (since i was taught about it — it’s not something i figured out for myself)… how the fallacy of composition applies to federal budget. here is a bit from one of the best descriptions i’ve seen:
oops. forgot the link:
http://neweconomicperspectives.blogspot.com/2009/08/teaching-fallacy-of-composition-federal.html
I see that infinite nesting isn’t permitted in this new infernal format, so I’m responding to the below, above.
First, I’m sure your reading of scarecrow’s point re families vs budget trumps mine, and thanks for the link.
Regarding CBO, I was in fact wondering before hitting Send if you’d bring up DrSteveB’s post. (How could I have doubted you? Nobody bookmarks like selise!)
As DrSteveB pointed out, CBO scoring that looks beyond the federal budget is a special ask. In the late summer and early fall of 2009, when SP advocates were focusing unduly on Anthony Weiner’s empty gesture to bring something resembling HR 676 to a floor vote (to the detriment of focused advocacy on the Kucinich amendment), the CBO scoring Pelosi permitted of the Weiner amendment was precisely and deliberately the more standard, budget-focused variety.
Monuments to people whose ideals we long ago abandoned. Why don’t we just end the hypocrisy and replace them with corporate and religious logos.
how could i not bring up drsteveb’s post — since i owe you for recommending his diaries (iirc, it was his diary on stark’s “americare”) to me? :)
re weiner, etc. i agree. especially this, “the CBO scoring Pelosi permitted of the Weiner amendment was precisely and deliberately the more standard, budget-focused variety.”
arrgh.
three shiny objects all in a row…. public option, filibuster and now fed gov deficits.
the amount of distraction and misinformation (D party leadership sourced i think) and non-coverage of alternative information (if not consistent with D party leadership message) makes my head hurt.
The Democratic and Republican Party no longer serve the interests of the American people. To begin to take the country back, some politician needs to run on these (beyond left vs. right) ideas and WIN.
1. End Political Corruption – enact the Fair Elections Now Act. Strictly voluntary. Matching funds. $100.00 maximum donation. Ban politicians from becoming lobbyists
2. End The Wars – (another form of corporate welfare). Immediately pull out of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen
3. Put Millions Back To Work – Federal government invest $2 trillion over 10 years through a national infrastructure bank (run by engineers, not politicians) to create jobs now and increase productivity later. Fund with a millionaire’s tax
4. Balance The Budget – over time by cutting the defense budget, end agricultural subsidies, stop corporate welfare, raise taxes on the super-rich, contain the explosion of health-care costs by adding the public option, allow Medicare to purchase drugs, give MEDPAC wider authority and allow drug re-importation
5. End National Addiction To Oil – begin with a carbon tax to reduce consumption, increase energy efficiency and make alternative energy more cost-competitive. Revenues generated should go to reducing payroll taxes to stimulate employment
6. Keep Social Security Solvent For Generations – raise the ceiling on income subject to the Social Security tax to $180,000. Congress could gradually slow the growth of benefits for middle and high earners while still allowing these benefits to rise in terms of absolute dollars and purchasing power. Lower-wage earners would receive everything they are now promised. Eliminate $4.8 trillion long-term deficit
7. End Bank Monopoly – break up the big banks, strengthen the Volker Rule, end the foreclosure crisis by giving bankruptcy judges the power to order reductions in mortgage principal owed
8. Encourage Upward Mobility In Society – make higher education free to families that can’t afford it. Fund with a financial transactions and bank tax