I’ll leave it to foreign policy wonks to explain the strategic rationale for having your outgoing Secretary of Defense deliver a very public rebuke to our NATO allies on the duties they owe to maintaining US hegemony. I’m sure it’s more complicated than a mere scarecrow could possibly imagine.
I’ll just limit myself to note how preposterous it is, never mind arrogant and cluelessly not-self-aware, for an American official to pretend that it’s Europe, and not US taxpayers and their elected Congress, who have steadfastly refused to pay the cost of US foreign adventures.
No doubt we will hear from those who remind Mr. Gates and his boss that it was the US President and his serial fabricators, including Tony Blair, who knowingly lied about WMD and misled the coalition of the duped, bribed and cynical to invade and occupy Iraq and literally remove its head of state. I guess our allies owe us big time for not talking us out of that disaster.
Two US Presidents similarly conned NATO and others into occupying and trying to pacify an ungovernable Afghanistan on the grounds that they need to help us fight those who dislike us in their countries over there so they only bomb European subways and not our own. The families of Canadian and European soldiers killed and maimed there must be wondering about that.
And why is Gates, the man who clearly warned it was folly to pretend a no-fly zone over Libya was an easy or sufficient strategy, sent forth to admonish skeptical NATO Allies that gave up their empires long before the French and British? (Greenwald has more on US motives.)
But what must rankle Gates’ targets more is the sheer hypocrisy of the Americans complaining about US taxpayers bearing the burdens of American hegemony while ignoring the fact that US taxpayers have done nothing of the kind. Both Bush and Obama Administrations have repeatedly demanded supplemental funding of our wars outside the normal budget process and have never once asked the American tax payers to pay more in taxes to support the wars.
Today’s Tea-GOP would rather default on our debts than raise a dime in taxes to support government, even these misadventures. So to whom is Gates credible?
Instead, we’ve been funding our wars via bonds sold to Wall Street and foreign investors, including the Chinese who find it a convenient way to deal with their large trade surpluses against the US. And Congress has been perfectly fine with this.
If the Congress and the Administration go to the country, explain what our war policies are and why taxpayers should pay for them, and then pass the tax increases to pay for them, then perhaps Gates might have a point. In the meantime, the expected NATO response will be, “stuff it, America.”



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I’ll leave it to foreign policy wonks to explain the strategic rationale for having your outgoing Secretary of Defense deliver a very public rebuke to our NATO allies on the duties they owe to maintaining US hegemony
I think Gates privately asked NATO to step up troops as America withdraws troops and NATO said no. Now Gates is pissed and going public.
This is good news since he is pissed enough to go public with his disappointment then NATO stepping up with more troops was his hole card hopefully he does not have anymore cards to play.
It also suggests that he is not wining the arguments for more troops.
Gates needs to get over his NATO nostalgia. This “alliance’, like the network of ententes pre-WWI, serves one function : it makes wars more likely, and once they start, to become uncontrollable.
Gates is also pissed that he is now going to be linked to the longest war in American History and quite possibly our biggest defeat ever in West Point military history classes.
The lessons of our failures after 9/11 and the wars of Iraq and Afghanistan will be required reading for a generation.
Gates is only concerned about whats really important… his reputation.
Too bad he did not make more of an effort to plan a winning war America can forgive an illegal war easy provided we win.
Gates now gets linked to torture, black site prisons, lies about WMD and worse of all losing a war!
I expect Gates to start blaming the American people soon for not having the will to fulfill his anf Bush’s Glorious Vision for the Middle East.
I expect Dick Cheney to say America still has not learned the lessons of Viet Nam which in his mind was a lack of Will.
The idea that our leaders have half ass plans and despite evidence that their half ass plans are not working our leaders double down out of Pride rather than admit mistakes and change their plans or even abandon them.
Pride trumps reality on the ground as long as we can afford it.
NATO members have to share the wealth.. their wealth, that is. The bill for these wars. The last debacle that was lead by France was transfered to NATO which coincided with France running out of bombs after a few weeks, and Britain which sold all of their carriers.
I’m seeing a theme here:
Dana Rohrabacher goes to Doha…
Then the congressional delegation went to Iraq and told them not to be killing any of our sacred MeK terrorists which we use to attack make attacks inside Iran, and could they please pay us for turning their country into a gravel pit.
The delegation requested a visit to camp Ashraf to meet with the Sacred Terrorist cult group, which was declined, and they were told to leave the country.
I have to add that the Iraqi’s suggested that if the Americans like their darling MeK terrorists so much, perhaps they should find a home for them in America.
Gates can go to hell. Every single one of those countries he lectured permits open service by any citizen, regardless of sexual orientation. Hey, tiny-but-perfectly-formed? I gotta question: what happened to implementing DADT repeal “on my watch?”
Is that something you simply won’t get around to?
What a miserable excuse for a SecDef.
England has the memory of Charles I’s crowned head falling to the executioner’s axe. All French leaders live under the shadow of the guillotine. European rulers know full well their people are perfectly capable of putting their heads on poles if they become sufficiently pissed off.
Combine that with the history of fallen empires and, in the case of Germany and Russia, tyrannical regimes that directly caused the deaths of tens of millions, and it’s not too surprising that current European leaders show a reluctance to rush in where angels fear to tread.
Americans have no such history. I think this is one of our biggest problems. We refuse to learn from the mistakes of others and insist on making our own on the illusion that we are somehow different.
We ain’t. We’re just as human and prone to failure as the Europeans. Too bad we’ll probably have to fail big time before we learn.
Entitlement writ large!
Interesting Obama must be using them to gather information and probably do black op attacks in Iran, Iran obviously complained and Iraq responded by sending a message.
Iraq seems to think its more important to be nice ti Iran than us.
I take this as a good sign… that America should leave now.
“The killing of unarmed people, whatever your goal is, a mass killing like that, an intentional killing of unarmed civilians, is a criminal act, a crime against humanity, and we are on a fact-finding trip to see some of those details,” said Rohrabacher, who chairs the House Foreign Affairs subcommittee on Investigations and Oversight.
Whats this guy’s record on ending torture, American’s killing civilians etc? Any bets this guy only cares because these guys were on our side?
Also if a U.S congressman can investigate in Iraq at all then Iraq’s sovereignty is in question. Does the congressman want America to have responsibility for Iraq?
Trials for what ever MeK does could happen Rep Rohrabacher just linked himself to them publicly.
Kudos, Scarecrow.
Because Gates is on his way out the door, Obama sent him to exclaim to the European Heads of State that the Pentagon has the archive that is the “European secrets”. Thus, America’s “signal” was delivered in a round-about manner, without having to undergo a direct confrontation between the Heads of State.
Of course, our economic meltdown, wasn’t all America’s given that the MOTU’s, both here and in Europe, created rampant destitution of the Sovereign Funds of over 150 nations, and subsequently, the Federal Reserve had to create trillions in digital dollars, and done on the premise that the corporate-owned media outlets were arm-twisted so as to not tell this story to the general public.
And Gates was the “perfected” messenger given his long career in public service. As such, the Pentagon is the “hammer” that brings the message home, and front and center, and therefore, cannot be discounted by the folks who operate behind the political curtain.
Jaango
Two points
Gates concentrated on worldwide deployability of forces and sustainability of operations in his list of the shortcomings of NATO member countries and NATO as a whole. It’s somewhat inside baseball, in the sense of the old saying that in military matters, amateurs think in terms of strategy and tactics, while professionals think logistics. But it is a very central point that even we amateurs need to understand if we want to understand these vast sums we spend on the military, and why we should stop doing that.
The US spends such vast amounts largely because we are the only country that bothers to spend for the very expensive capability to project forces worldwide, and not nearly so much because we keep large forces armed with highly advanced equipment. We do those latter two things, but there are other countries that exceed us on the size of forces, and stay at least competitive in at least some categories of armaments. But nobody else is serious about maintaining the abiity to project ans sustain large forces just about anywhere in the world. These capabilities are seriously expensive, and the expenditures are largely made outside our own economy.
One point that follows from our absolute dominance in this capability to deploy large forces worldwide, is that it isn’t just our NATO and other friends and allies who can’t project forces. Our potential adversaries suck at this as well. There isn’t a country on the planet that could deploy and sustain for more than a few days, more than a battalion or two to LA, or NY, even in the absence of any US military response. The LAPD or the NYPD would be able to police these invaders up without needing any assist from the Army. We could have a combined Army and Marine Corps of about two battalions, and that would be serious overkill if our “defense” requirements actually were limited to, you know, actual defense of the United States.
The second point is that, unless we do the reasonable thing and get rid of this massively excessive capability we maintain at such vast expense, sooner or later we’re going to use the capability to meet the expense. You can see Gates’ speech as the first stage of an argument whose second stage is this, “Okay, you haven’t responded voluntarily to our pleas to spend more on serious worldwide deployment capabilities to aid in the common defense, so now we, the US, the one country that has behaved responsibly and shouldered the burden, is going to start charging you freeloaders for what will no longer be a free ride common defense.” Maybe Gates would never go to that second stage, but how long until we get a politician who is willing to exploit its politically attractive features? After all, we have a deficit crisis in this coutry, or haven’t you heard, and a lot of that debt we incurred to defend the freeloaders, is owed to the freeloader nations. Nationalize that debt by converting it into back-payments for defense! Continue the payments into the future as that, payments, and quit letting these foreign freeloaders get away with charging us interest and repayment of principle for money they owe us for defending them!
Thanks so much for this multi-faceted perspective on Gates’ defined issues by you and the commenters. As always, my tiny world view is burst open and the light of many truths come crashing in to both blind and give me better sight. Thanks be to God!
Blessings,
Stop with this “our wars” business. These are _their wars_, started for aggressive imperialist reasons. Anyway, so the Europeans have decided they’d rather have universal health care and free higher education than endless wars to subjugate the world. Good for them. Right they are. I’m sure they’re thinking “don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, Gates.”
… Paying with bonds and paying with taxes is still paying.
I long ago under Reagan got used to hypocrisy -
In other EU news Germany says the German worker should not help the Greek worker – yet the Germans (who have a much stronger social safety net than we do in the USA) happily took $30 billion from the USA in order to make their banks whole after investing in Lehman Brothers and the like. The money was funneled to Germany through AIG as part of TARP, and yet no one in the media is allowed to ask why are American taxpayers funding Germans when Germans enjoy a much better social system? Indeed the average German retires earlier than the average Greek (they are both around 62) and works less hours. Very tiring.
I think I’ll watch some golf on TV.
Our founders gave us a bladeless guillotine six times in the constitution and it was meant to be used regularly … IMPEACHMENT.
Those guys lived through this shit, writ large, and left us their notes ,the constitution. Like my college professor said these rules were written because they knew where the potential of Government to abuse those areas lie and they outlined and divided those powers , like from the Congress shall declare war… as to what ever the president thinks, WTF ?
You might as well have sailors shoveling piles of dollars off the fantail of the Aircraft carriers and it makes as much sense .
“An army marches on its stomach.”
–Napoleon
The more things change…
Great point, though it begs the question: WHY spend so much on logistics for potential longterm overseas deployments? Well, my best guess is because somebody is making a lot of money off of those expenditures. Halliburton comes to mind.
But it’s sure not necessary to protect our own borders. Doesn’t seem to be doing our infrastructure a whole helluva lot of good, either. Just ask ask the residents of Minneapolis, or Cleveland, or the Mississippi Valley, or, this could go on for pages so I’ll stop.
Gates thinks that NATO lacks the political will to do what exactly? After all, NATO was set up to defend Europe from invasion. Since none of the recent military activities had anything to do with Europe with the possible exception of the Yugoslav breakdown, and since there is no invasion threat anywhere looming, maybe there is no reason that NATO would want to thump its chest and spend money that could better benefit its people elsewhere. What is Gates’ problem exactly? That NATO isn’t following the American Empire playbook? Why should they? I think Gates should be happy that Europe, Italy especially, doesn’t ask the US to just go home and stop cluttering its land and displacing its citizens with military bases.
@ TasteofFreedom June 11th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
American wars, launched and continued by the government of America, which was elected by the people of America. Paid for out of their taxes by the ("no taxation without representation") American people Fought with brutality and an utter disregard for civilian life by Americans who were brought up and educated by other Americans who inculcated American values into them.
They are your American wars of agression not anybody else’s yours, stop trying to pretend otherwise.
Suleiman Aydin