I don’t usually watch CNN, because the odds of hearing something completely absurd are quite high, and that’s just from their anchors, never mind their frequent panelists. But tonight I did and immediately started looking for things to throw at my tv.
In the opening segment of his show, Elliot Spitzer featured Gloria Borger (why does this woman have a job?) and David Gergen (why are we still listening to him?) to prove the point.
Spitzer invited Borger to repeat her column criticizing Obama for chastizing the GOP (in his presser today) on their adamant position against raising revenues. According to Ms. Manners, it’s not okay for our President to ridicule the GOP or John Boehner and Mitch McConnell; he should instead be the adult in the room — with “adult” defined as someone who’s as afflicted with deficit hysteria as she is. And since getting rid of tax deductions for corporate jets and other stuff is only worth $3 billion or so — she said, reading from Eric Cantor’s talking points — it was unpresidential for Obama to even bring that up. Apparently rhetorical examples that make a political point are not sufficiently grown up when made by a Democrat against the Republicans.
Borger continued that the only people who would appreciate Mr. Obama’s takedown of the illogical and extremist GOP positions would be Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, whom the fair and balanced Borger reminded us are “two of the most unpopular politicians in America.” So her larger meaning is, it’s not okay for Obama to support Democrats who believe the President should be more forceful in defending their priorities and undermining the GOP negotiating positions, even though they’re threatening to defund worthwhile and popular programs and crash the economy again. He needs to be more polite to Mitch McConnell.
Well, I guess that view is right if you see the world through the goggles of a Tea-bot.
David Gergen then echoed Borger’s critique of Obama taking on the GOP positions, saying it’s not wise for a President to be criticizing Congressional leaders during the middle of a negotiation. You’d think a President had never put pressure on or run against a do-nothing, obstructionist Congress dominated by the opposition party. Indeed, the only reason to have Gergen on is to remind viewers that all 27 presidents for whom Gergen worked did exactly that. But instead, Gergen insisted, Obama should be more diplomatic and treat the other side with respect if he expects to cut a deal.
Apparently, however, this advice only runs one way.
We’ve watched the Tea-GOP leaders trash talk this President’s positions, his ideology, his motives, his judgment, his patriotism, his nationality, his integrity and everything else, night after night for over two years. So I’m wondering how many times during these discussion that David Gergen has taken the Tea-GOP leadership to task for their nightly attacks on Obama, his motives, his priorities and his unAmerican policies. Gergen didn’t mention any of that tonight.
But what finally rushed me to my sock drawer for objects to hurl is that two minutes after Borger and Gergen lectured the President on how a President shouldn’t confront the opposition the way he did, but should instead “lead,” Gergen argued that the way the President should lead would be to shame the opposition for how irresponsible they’re being. The President, Gergen said, should explain to the country how awful a debt default would be and how the GOP’s holding it hostage was risking an economic calamity with their take-it-to-the-brink negotiating position.
Perhaps Gergen did not watch the President’s press conference, because that’s basically what he said, although Obama said it perhaps too diplomatically for the CNN crew to catch it.



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Bless you, Scarecrow. I actually had fits of giggles reading this.
Jeebuz, Miss Manners ought to go read a few of the Take No Prisoners, Call It Like Ya See It financial bloggers that I read. Those guys would down her as an appetizer and belly on up to the bar for a shot at Gergen.
I wrote a diary yesterday about the fact that Dylan Ratigan looked positively bug-eyed on Tuesday as he announced that Eric Cantor holds a *short position* on US Treasury bonds.
In other words, if the bond rating goes down — and the price of money then goes up in response, meaning the debt interest rises — that f*&$ing moron Cantor stands to make a profit on his short position (!)
Once upon a time, that was called ‘insider trading’. Manipulate the price of the things that you’ve bet on, and you were supposed to get slammed into prison. But apparently, those rules don’t mean shit anymore.
So the guys doing the ‘negotiating’ are running a rigged operation, to make money off a side gamble.
If Miss Manners can’t find her ass with both hands and read a few of the finance guys, then I got no time for her. Actually, I have not had time for her scoldy ways for quite a few years now. Ditto Gergen.
I must thank you.
I like Spitzer, but I’m damned if I’m going to torment myself watching scoldy people who are apparently ignorant that the moron in charge of budget negotiations just happens to have a ‘bet’ that the US bond rating is going to sink.
How can he make his money?
By f*&$ing up the budget negotiations so that the bond ratings sink.
I think we’re at a whole new level of stupid in the ol US of A…
A prize to the best artist’s rendition of Eric Cantor holding his short position while the financial sector goes down again. I think we can display that as long as it’s part of a video game. Chief Justice Roberts said so.
CNN is an enemy propaganda broadcast. Don’t try to decipher it, because it’ll seep into your subconscious.
When Americans realize that what you just said of CNN is true of ALL THE NETWORKS, then we will be making progress.
How absurd for any of us to assume that we would be getting “the truth” from the NBC networks which are owned by General Electric, the largest war contractor in the world.
The Corporate owned networks play the same game against the people that the Wall Street Corporate owned Party of one (Demos & Repugs) play against the people. They try to pretend as if there is any significant degree of separation among them when in fact it is all Wall Street owned and run.
Hey Liz, our advertisers are paying for our servers so you can have the privilege of posting here today. If you’d like us to stop taking advertising, we’re going to have to cut back on the content we can offer.
Since you and the DCCC trolls don’t think FDL should be accepting advertising, and have offered no other solution as to how we can pay for our servers and coders (thousands of dollars per month), would you like to volunteer to be the first to go?
Scarecrow: “I don’t usually watch CNN…” LOL; that’s okay, I never watch Maddow any more, either. ;o) Just.Can’t.Take.Her.
Hey Jane, you have copied and pasted this same reply FIVE TIMES in response to Liz, on different threads, just today. I, for one, don’t care that you accept advertising dollars to keep FDL going. If the capitalist bastards are willing to finance the ability of people like myself and others here to lambaste them and call for their downfall, fine! Great! I appreciate the irony.
If the fascist bastards are willing to finance a website that allows its members and others to tellingly criticize them, I have no problem with that. If some of the money goes to the founder of the site, that is, you, I have no problem with that, either.
But what you’re doing with your stalking, yes, stalking, of Liz Berry does not do FDL, or you, any good. For one thing, it makes you look petty. I’ve been at other websites where an administrator personally targeted one poster, and all it does is make the administrator look petty and turn potential new members off.
For another, it shows that you haven’t really read Liz’ posts, which makes you look worse. I’ve read them. Liz is not a DNC, DCCC, or DSCC shill. Not at all. There are plenty of those who have showed up at FDL lately, just as I predicted over a month ago–see:
http://my.firedoglake.com/ohiogringo/2011/05/27/112/
but Liz isn’t one of them. Yes, she has her own site. Yes, I find her IfLizWereQueen or whatever it is a bit arrogant. Yes, I think she sometimes posts too much in a day here. But YOU are the owner, you can put a stop to that. No, I don’t agree with Liz on everything. I no doubt agree with you on everything, either. After all, I have never hidden the fact that I’m a democratic socialist.
But please, stop this stalking of one poster who questioned your acceptance of advertising. As I said, I don’t care that you do so. But repeatedly bashing one person with cut and paste stuff is not doing yourself any favors, and I think it’s detrimental to the best interests of FDL, which I do truly appreciate.
What the fucking hell is wrong with you Ms Hamsher? As OhioGringo points out, you’ve pasted the same mindless, irrelevant diatribe 5 times in a row in non-reply to things posted by Liz Berry.
Green eyed monster much? Get your head together, or are you Arianna-2, as opposed to Jane-2?
I’ve met Miss Manners… and I doubt that she would disapprove of Obama criticizing the GOP.
Great stuff:) How could we exist without Gergen and Borger’s meaningless ramblings?