Tom Friedman seems to alternate between days with provocative ideas that challenge conventional wisdom, for better or worse, and days with fantasies built on absurd notions, massive ignorance or delusion, which if implemented would be catastrophic. He’s equally certain and proud of both, so you have to be careful.
Judging by today’s New York Times column, today is Tom Friedman’s catastrophic fantasy day.
In a column in which he fantasizes a joint media appearance with Speaker Boehner and President Obama, Friedman dreams of the two men making humble concessions, then walking hand in hand into the White House to negotiate a “grand bargain” that resolves all the country’s outstanding budget deficit/debt issues. Everything’s on the table, and both sides are earnestly committed to bargain in good faith and reach a reasonable compromise. On seeing this, the market immediately rises a zillion points.
There’s only one problem. The deal Friedman assumes these men would likely produce could wreck the economy and harm millions of people.
Like all too many in Washington, Friedman believes that a grand bargain that dramatically reduced near- and medium term deficits and long run debt would actually help the economy and benefit the nation’s citizens. But instead, it would do exactly the opposite. That’s because the prevailing ideas for what goes into this grand bargain do not include solving any of the nation’s actual problems. And though the debt crisis is phony, the proposals are only superficially about reducing debt. But they have everything to do with crippling the federal government’s ability to function in the public interest.
What Mr. Boehner’s Republicans want is not a trimmer, more efficient government; they want a government that can only support a much smaller public sector and is significantly weaker in dealing with the private economy and those it affects. They want a government so weak it cannot threaten the ability of the financial sector to continue looting the economy and so politically constrained and captured it cannot induce industries to internalize the costs of health, safety and environmental measures needed to protect the public from harm; it would function only to enable what industries want. They want to protect the rich from taxation and do nothing to prevent the relentless transfer, through unfettered non-competitive markets, of the nation’s income and wealth from the bottom 90 percent or so to the extreme wealthiest individuals and corporations, whose actions would become essentially unaccountable to consumers, shareholders and investors.
Against this massive looting, wealth transfer, and frontal assault on the public interest, it’s not clear what values President Obama wants to protect, even assuming he’s competent to do so. He doesn’t seem committed to tax equity, seems little concerned about massive inequality, has rarely if ever mentioned the near 15 percent poverty (nearly 20 percent of America’s children relying on government assistance). He clearly does not favor reducing the power or influence of the financial sector that has ravaged the economy, nor has he fought to check other politically powerful industries and corporations that continue to victimize the public.
Further, Mr. Obama refused to consider any form of universal health care that could effectively challenge rising private health care costs. That’s a principal driver of long-run spending. Mr. Boehner’s Party, of course, regards such solutions as evil socialism. So their “compromise” could remove people from the program by making them wait longer.
On top of this, neither Mr. Obama’s team nor Mr. Boehner’s Party has an intellectually coherent grasp of economics, a credible framework for understanding the nature of our current economic problems nor any affinity for the only solutions known to be workable. Indeed, almost every statement both men make on the economy is wrong-headed and often absurd.
In short, any negotiation between Mr. Obama and Mr. Boehner is highly likely to produce a worse mess, as best, or possibly a calamity. Their deal would likely harm the economy or even produce a recession.
If their grand bargain succeeds in reducing government spending by $4 trillion or more over the next decade, it will slow growth, increase unemployment, cause even more foreclosures, throw more people into poverty, increase the number of uninsured, decimate state and local governments. It would leave the country’s future poorer from a serious deficit in investments in everything a country needs to prosper. And the huge inequities in American life will remain, with an even weaker government available to address them.
Dear Tom: Be careful what you ask for. There’s no one protecting the public interest in that grand bargain. So please use your next alternate day to point this out. — John Chandley (Scarecrow).
Update: Dean Baker has a dream.



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Tom Friedman and those of his ilk live in another world apart from the rest of us…in their world eveything fits together according to what the Masters of the Universe tell them. In their world eveything is simple so answers to complex problems are simple. In their world money and worry is not a problem. So they don’t see what damage they are causing, In the world those people outside the beltway are just faceless numbers. So for them people outside the beltway don’t count…
Tom..have you been to London, Ireland or Spain recently? You better start paying attention
It’s tough to take seriously the rantings of a Moustache who lives here, I find:
http://greenhellblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/friedman-mansion.jpeg
Not sure that it’s not just willful misunderstanding of economics, though it’s hard to see where the incessant looting aids them in the end. I would say in regard to that, they are decidedly NOT students of history.
Good piece. Friedman is a charlatan. What I mean by that is he stolen the post-modern meme and popularized a very distorted version of it to serve the purposes of the oligarchs. He is not a philosopher nor a political economist. He is not authentic. He is a popularizer and disinformation shill. In other words a propagandist.
Tom Thomas Friedman, Private Eye.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/01/1001158/-Thomas-Friedman,-Private-Eye?detail=hide&via=blog_792316
Spending is going up 8% a year. The economy is growing ~1% a year. This is not sustainable.
where was little tommy when his buddies were blowing up the budget five,six years ago?? was he too busy counting his tax cuts?? tommy is just a whore and nothing more…..
Friedman was a half-decent young journalist a quarter of a century ago. Then success and a good marriage went to his head and began to think he was smarter than he is, which is not so smart.
Padded cell, prison, or guillotine for Mr. Friedman Units?
Indeed. Tom Friedman’s head is flat.
we should revisit his idea in 3 to 6 months.
Yeah, that is why we need to borrow to invest in our economy, so it grows faster the 1%.
American Kitsch at its best. Dysfunctional parents join hands and the children will breath in the bliss of no more chaos.
He’s like the Karl Pilkington of American Politics.
The only problem is we have already accepted a part time job that guarantees no increase in income and sold the fixtures and the “open for business.” sign.
As the Fed said yesterday. Get used to it. We are living the new normal.
“Tom Friedman seems to alternate between days with provocative ideas that challenge conventional wisdom, for better or worse, and days with fantasies built on absurd notions, massive ignorance or delusion, which if implemented would be catastrophic. He’s equally certain and proud of both, so you have to be careful.”
Not to be too picky Scarecrow, but Friedman hasn’t been right about anything since the Clinton administration.
And even then, all of his constructs about neo-liberal outsourcing have only benefited the emerging economies in Asia.
Both parties have already signed on to the “Grand Bargain”: whore for banks, energy companies, defense contractors, pharma, AIPAC, etc., or more simply, each others campaign donors.
Stupid shit Freidman can’t figure out that we’ve this “bipartisianship” all along – a coalition of the willing (whores).
BTW, I long ago added Freidman to my list of “Read only for Laughs” commentators. Krauthammer was the first entry on the list.
Friedman: “The first rule of holes is when you’re in one, stop digging.When you’re in three, bring a lot of shovels.”
Taibbi: “First of all, how can any single person be in three holes at once? Secondly, what the fuck is he talking about? If you’re supposed to stop digging when you’re in one hole, why should you dig more in three? How does that even begin to make sense? It’s stuff like this that makes me wonder if the editors over at the New York Times editorial page spend their afternoons dropping acid or drinking rubbing alcohol. Sending a line like that into print is the journalism equivalent of a security guard at a nuke plant waving a pair of mullahs in explosive vests through the front gate. It should never, ever happen.”
It’s the Pollyanna belief that “compromise”, whenever it happens, is best for the nation. “Compromise” is a touchy-feely mentality that infects Obama’s brain. It’s so cute and cuddly! Now, let’s hold hands.
Ever read his book “The World is Flat”.
He is a proponent of Free Trade. In a column one time he said that engineers and scientists have to get used to the fact that engineers and scientists in India and China get paid far less and they have to be willing to accept lower wages. Which is apparently around minimum wage. He said they have to because otherwise our industries will not be able to compete and they need to do this out of some sort of patriotism. I guess this is why the poor need to join the military in order to fight wars to benefit corporations.
Now most engineers and scientists are exactly stupid. Many have to go into debt to finance their educations. In Freidman’s world people who actually grow our economy have to work for minimum wage and spend their lives paying off student loans so Freidman can get paid handsomely to write a column with a bunch of wacked out ideas right out of the conservative playbook.
Free trade isn’t free. It’s a fact that when a country with a much higher standard of living goes into a Free Trade agreement with a country having a lower standard of living. The standard of living of the two will start to equalize. Given that corporations want to maximize both will equalize much closer to the lower standard of living. This has been going on for 25 years and now we’re about a big drop in the standard of living here.
Tom Friedman, married to an heiress, needs to spend some time at a food bank, or an inner city school, or a homeless shelter.
He needs to walk the streets of Detroit [almost as exotic as those places he's otherwise touring; perhaps he could hail a cabbie there and get some more wisdom].
He needs to go to the countless small towns of “fly-over” America, towns like those discussed in Methland that are decimated by the loss of jobs, the resulting loss of a tax base and consequential loss of services, and ultimately the loss of population — and “hope.”
The rich f’ers like Friedman who pontificate and “advise” based on their Hamptons and Martha’s Vineyard existences make me sick.
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Since classical economics is a reductionist perspective on human behavior and since these morons apparently can’t even manage to model a coffee cup, I’d say that 1% is well within the margin of error. The gauges don’t work anymore. We are flying blind.
That’s great stuff Scarecrow.
“… days with provocative ideas that challenge conventional wisdom, for better or worse, and days with fantasies built on absurd notions, massive ignorance or delusion, which if implemented would be catastrophic.”
You say tomato, I say …
Hah! I agree.
Very very good. But all need to be reminded of Friedman’s and Judith Miller’s grand solution for Iraq and the power that Friedman seemingly has to continue to platform his hairbrained schemes and analysis.
Great post… I cannot stand Friedman! He’s pretty much nuts.
Ten points for a great rant. Exactly on target.
they have everything to do with crippling the federal government’s ability to function in the public interest.
seems friedman’s think alike, he seems to want what milton promoted, governments run by and for the purpose of promoting business instead of the general welfare
obama is on that train already, as you say scarecrow, any “compromise” with obama means a solution even further into the corporate agenda then republicans could have possibly hoped in their wildest dream
yet this is now promoted as some kind of “compromise”
I read the book. Friedman took the post-modern theme of decentralization and overlaid it with vertical oligopoly control. Can’t happen. It’s complete bullshit and he is not taken seriously by anybody who really studies this stuff.
Dean Baker is all over Friedman’s op-ed. It’s a MUST READ.
http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/the-new-york-times-announces-thomas-friedmans-dismissal
Oh, once in a while he’ll say something marginally better than CW on global climate, or how the rest of the world has better trains and airports.
Very much a flat head World run by Plato’s philosopher Kings. I will be posting a response from the left regarding this meme at Firedoglake very soon: THE “PROBLEMATIQUE” OF THE POST MODERN CONDITION:OBSERVATIONS FROM A SOCIAL DEMOCRATIC AND SOCIAL LIBERTARIAN PERSPECTIVE
A) We need to call them on this BS
B) We need to put forth our vision
Please check my profile later today/tomorrow. I am looking for partners to put a book together ASAP.
I remember reading Friedman’s “The Lexus and the Olive Tree” years ago where he cheerleads for globalization like it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. The obvious question while reading it was, “If it is so fucking great, how come not everyone is on board? Why are there states that are resisting it?” About halfway through, Friedman provides his answer (paraphrased), “Well, some third world folks are just stupid and lazy.” Right. The only lazy and stupid person who came to my mind at that point was the author.
I believe one standard FU is the usual term.
U go otto my friend!
Friedman is a tool and the embodiment of what is wrong with the MSM -essentially flaccid, lazy conventional thinking, that passes as nuggets of truth among his peers inside the Beltway.
He will never admit it, but we are on a downward spiral propagated by the GOP and supported by their Democratic enablers. It’s sad to think that Obama is probably the most “liberal” President many of us will see in our lifetime.
Our GOP corporate foe in countering the demographic change in the electorate, with “creative” gerrymandering and voter suppression laws that will continue to give them a built in electoral advantage.
I found this in an article from a Spiegel on the debt deal describing the austerity nonsense -
“The compromise also marks a break from Obama’s political course up until now. The Democrat long pushed for greater government spending in order to stimulate the stagnant economy. Now, however, the focus will be on austerity, even if many economists feel that is the wrong step given the stagnant US economic growth of 1.3 percent. A fixation on cuts could stall the fragile economic upswing, Obama’s former chief economic advisor, Larry Summers, warned in a SPIEGEL interview last week.”
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,777724,00.html
I need to give Larry Summers credit for speaking up on this.
And this I find just plain delusional -
“But Obama’s current political advisors like the austerity measures. They are hoping they can translate into new enthusiasm among voters for Obama, just as Bill Clinton secured his re-election in the mid-1990s with his tough budget discipline.
“Obama’s target constituency in 2012 is not his base but rather independent and moderate voters,” the Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza wrote. “And those fence-sitters love compromise in almost any form.”
Tell me again why Tom Friedman is worth noticing. Few of my neighbors of any political persuasion know who Tom Friedman is.
There is one practical way to eliminate the deficit and pay down the debts that should, but will not, become the basis of a Grand Bargain. And that the the CPC’s People’s Budget.
Or one could extend it to deal with the depression first and start generating increased revenues from increased personal incomes.
For example, two years of $2T commitments to infrastructure development to create the next economy — high speed rail, broadband communication, alternative energy investments, retrofitting buildings to be energy efficient, white roofs, rebuilding education, and converting to a single payer health plan — could substantially restart the economy (increasing GDP btw) with the total debt rising to $18T. That debt could be paid down over ten years with highly progressive taxes out at 35%. (Instead of the what? Who has this data? 26% 17% average actual tax rate now). In addition the tax laws could be simplified to eliminate deductions period. (A constitutional amendment prohibiting targeted tax credits might be in order as well.) The total debt over ten years would look something like FY2012 $16T, FY2013 $18T, FY 2014 $18T, FY2015 $18T, FY2016 $16T, FY2017 $14T, FY2018 $10T, FY2019 $6T, FY2020 $2T, FY2021 Zero debt, budget surplus to Recession offset fund. Subsequent years, 10% of tax revenues go into the fund. (Isn’t that how families are supposed to do it?) Fed manages the money supply using banking reserves alone.
Yes, it’s a fantasy. One that struck terror into the heart of Wall Street when Al Gore proposed a milder form of it in 2000 (remember the “lockbox”).
Lost in the sauce:
Obama, Boehner, Congress, Friedman, NY Times, Fire Dog Lake, 99% of US population, 99.999% of humans on planet Earth.
The real problem is energy not policy. Our human/machine world runs on petroleum. It needs cheap petroleum to (pretend to) return a profit. Almost everything that every human sees around him or her in the real world or on TV is an energy sink, that is, a dead drain on resources.
In dollar terms, Peak Oil took place in 1998. Analysts indicated that Peak Oil would only emerge in hindsight, they were right: crude oil could be had in 1998 for $10-12 per barrel. Today, the same barrel of oil costs $105.00 per barrel, a 1000% increase that our blessed economy cannot afford and still spin off ‘profits’.
Our entire economic infrastructure was built around a presumed oil cost of $20 per barrel or less. This economy — around the world including China — is effectively bankrupt.
All the above’s economic prescriptions are for increased energy flow rates; not possible when the increase is not there and the flow rate mechanism insolvent.
Basically, the modern world is f__cked.
What now? Who cares about Friedman’s blather, what is needed is stringent conservation and an economy built around husbandry rather than waste. Folks cannot get their heads around that, even Zero-growth economy mavens such as Herman Daly. It’s hard economics with no light in the end of the ‘zero GDP growth’ tunnel only deflationary collapse. Without that light the entire modernity ‘science experiment’ of 7 billions on a small planet is in ‘FAIL’ mode.
Not pleasant or ‘hopeful’ but that’s reality brought to you by real numbers and markets. Have a nice day.
Whic is a more credible statement:
A: “I’m indifferent to both political parties, and I’m going to look for a job. I’ll vote for the party that help me get a job”
B: “I’m indifferent to both political parties, and I’m going to look for a job. I’ll vote for the party that will compromise in governing”
If you chose B, Chris Godzilla, you are a Fucking Retard.
Thanks for the heads up. I added the link to Baker.
With his hands eternally bloodied from his Iraq war boosting, I’m surprised he can use a keyboard.
He must like a plastic keyboard cover with the amount of blood his hands are covered in.
The PTB know this.
Why do you think they are focusing on deficits and not growth (through demand)? They know there is no growth to be had.
You information is correct. Please consider our leader’s behavior in light of this information, and write a diary abut its implications.
One implication is any gained from economic expansion would probably be captured by cost of energy, that is, there is no more profit to be had from any expansion.
Hence: No investment.
Well, that settles it. I’m going to Paris.
Forget Friedman, he’s a cipher, but this is a great rant -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIcqb9hHQ3E&feature=player_embedded
Eh? Good rant and spot-on. However Friedman probably has a reasonably “good” idea of what’s happening outside his nice cozy richie-rich bubbleworld in which he lives in baronial & sartorial splendor.
And quite frankly, what’s happening for the rest of us serfs outside the bubble is just what the “doctor” ordered. A lot of privation, fear, hopelessness, no money, no jobs, lowered wages & expections, hunger… yeah: just the way the MOTU want it. Job well done! Boo-yah!
Yes.
yes, and a highly paid one at that… more like a courtesan than a whore, if one is to use the analogies correctly (and with no disrepect to so-called “working women,” who, imo, earn their livings much more honestly than this CROOK does).
True enough, but Friedman gets well paid to be a shill with his propoganda. Clearly money talks, in Friedman’s case. Screw everyone else, Friedman got HIS.
As long as the Democratic/Republican Party retains its monoply on power, no genuinely progressive change is possible. None whatsoever.
Watching Britain with great interest. It seems the rioters there have found a safe and unstoppable way to bring down an oligarchy in a developed country. There simply are not enough police or army to protect all the buildings. And the unemployed rioters don’t need and won’t miss those buildings at all. Very interesting. Who could have anticipated . . .?
Suprised that more people on this board don’t realize that and continue to tilt at windmills. The sad fact is that both parties will retain that monopoly. This is probably the century of Asia, certainly not the US, which is fine by me.
You have a better memory than I, Knut. I can’t recall a time with Friedman hasn’t been an idiot.
He’s lucky that Milton Friedman set the bar for “evil people named ‘Friedman’” so very high. It’s about the only thing that makes Tommy look good, by comparison.
“provocative ideas that challenge conventional wisdom”
I think I must have missed that one column.
That’s only because British police do not shoot to kill. In the United States they do and would. There is a lot of historical precedent for this going back to the union struggles of the nineteenth century. There is no hesitation to use lethal force. Kent State the outstanding recent example.
Or every day on the streets of our cities. They just don’t do it in bulk very often. Yet
Picture caption: Pew pew! Pew! Pew!
and Jackson State.
No, my point is that they don’t get to shoot you unless you show up in an organized crowd. A lone arsonist with a gallon of gasoline can do the deed and be gone before he can be targeted. Perhaps the perfect asymmetrical tactic for use in a highly developed country with an aggressive security apparatus.
Free trade deals:
Now on the table, being pushed by the White House and soon to be considered by congress: South Korea, Columbia and Panama. Prepare to bend over.
The don’t call them Friedman Units (FU’s) for nothing.
Ive never heard an idea come from freidman that “challenged” conventional wisdom”… or that was “provacative”, unless by that you mean it provoked me into wanting punch him in the face. Freidnman is a great moustaschioed font of the worst kind of conventional wisom…the kind based completely on imaginary premises..like solutions “Americas Social Security Crisis”.
Friedman means well, but how does one compromise his own butt sitting on a block of ice versus his feet resting on a hot grill?
I’d much rather hear a free wheeling conversation between Friedman and Krugman.
I think Friedman is good at composing pieces in his head while driving home in afternoon traffic. They are usually well done, but printed a day or two later which should allow a moment for reconsideration and revision. Sometimes an interim thought ends up in print as the final product, which it really isn’t.
Krugman’s stuff seems innate. It’s just there without needing any conscious nudge from the author. It’s always complete from the gitgo.
They are both worth reading.
Capitalism – a dismal failure. Hey, is that like Economics, the dismal science?
Paris? I’m thinking a tropical island sipping an umbrella drink on a white sandy beach with scantily clad women parading back and forth in front of beautiful blue water.
More poverty – Your Tax Cuts at Work