In another life I once had the dubious honor of having to testify before the state legislature representing my employer, a state agency. One of the agency’s missions was promoting alternative energy sources, so it was not unusual to have a particular pro-nuclear state senator badger and bully me and my colleagues for not doing enough to promote the next nuclear plant our utilities wanted to build.
My instructions were to be respectful, just make our points and not argue with the senators on the committee, no matter how abusive they became. And some were abusive, insulting. I’ve always regretted that, because the legislators are supposed to work for the citizens who pay their salaries, although an administrative agency is, in part, a creation and extension of the legislature. But what if you’re just a private citizen, an expert asked to testify at a hearing?
Here’s how one private citizen reacted to the abusive Don Young (R. Alaska):
Friday’s exchange came in a hearing of the House Natural Resources Committee, where Brinkley testified that the country should protect and preserve the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge from oil and gas exploration.
Young, who supports drilling in ANWR, sparked the fireworks when he called Brinkley’s testimony “garbage” and then mistakenly called Brinkley “Dr. Rice.”
“It’s Dr. Brinkley. Rice University is a university,” Brinkley said. “I know you went to Yuba (Community) College.”
Visibly angry, Young shot back, “I’ll call you anything I want to call you when you’re in that chair. You just be quiet.”
Brinkley retorted: “You don’t own me. I pay your salary. I work for the private sector and you work for the taxpayer.”
Committee Chairman Doc Hastings, R-Wash., stepped in to break up the argument, which was recorded by C-SPAN and since has drawn thousands of online viewers.
With Congress so unresponsive to the country’s needs and public approval down around 9 percent, I’m surprised we don’t see more of this.



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Love it.
Young asked for it and deserved what he got. I would like to see more witnesses standing up to and figuratively slamming representatives and senators up against the wall when they step over the line and insult them.
They deserve to have their shit thrown back in their faces and I applaud Dr. Brinkley for having the chutzpah to do it.
Recommended.
Far out. We need more of this. Nothing will ever change until people stand up to abuse. recc’d.
America can be energy independent just ask Newt.
AN AMERICAN ENERGY PLAN
“Contrary to popular belief, America has more energy than any nation on earth. All that’s keeping us from becoming energy independent is a lack of political will to do so.” – Newt Gingrich
http://www.newt.org/solutions/american-energy-plan
Just ask the National Petroleum Council
North America could become energy self-sufficient, and possibly even an exporter of natural gas.
http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?hpf=1&a_id=111687&hmp=1
Just don’t ask them what energy independence would cost you the consumer or how much it costs to create an oil or natural gas from fracking job.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Scarecrow:
Thanks for the post, Brother Scarecrow, can we get a look at the clip on Utube?
Folks are beginin’ to figure out that all public officials, elected or not, are public servants…isn’t that what the recall and occupy movements are all about?
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, ALL THEY GOT IS THE MONEY!!
1) Below $90 a barrel, non-OPEC oil would stay in the ground because it could not be produced economically–despite the fact that global subsidies for oil companies are over half a trillion dollars (2).
https://plus.google.com/u/0/108077530448434441501/posts/DFbsaMN8PXb#108077530448434441501/posts/DFbsaMN8PXb
When the Right talks about oil jobs lets remember $2 trillion dollars a year to pay for jobs for a business model that only makes a profit at $90 a barrel.
Lets remember that
«“As with GDP and U3, there also is a historical relationship between oil price and GDP. According to the US Energy Information Administration, a ten-dollar change in crude oil price causes GDP to rise or fall by about 0.2 percent within a year and about 0.5 percent during the subsequent year. ”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/06/2012_is_not_about_unemployment_its_about_oil.html
So for oil sands to be profitable oil must stay higher than $90 a barrel. even if GDP for the rest of the economy falls. Lets remember that every economic downturn in America after WW2 was linked in whole or in part to a rise in oil prices. So then for America to be independent of oil the current recession must continue.
the current price for natural gas, about 4 dollars per thousand cubic feet (mcf), is below the level needed to make shale gas profitable for most drilling – costs estimates range from a bit over 4 dollars to an average of 7 dollars and even 11 dollars per mcf
The main problem seems to be that the drilling companies and trucking companies do a sloppy job and let gas escape into the atmosphere – and into drinking water. This was best exemplified in the movie GasLand, which showed that people near drilling sites could light their tap water on fire.
http://www.newdeal20.org/2011/07/05/a-fracking-mess-natural-gas-is-not-the-fuel-of-the-future-50485/
The Barnett shale, which has the longest production history, provides the most reliable case study for predicting future shale gas potential. The data suggest that if the wells’ production continues to decline in the current manner, many will become financially unviable within 10 to 15 years.
A review of more than 9,000 wells, using data from 2003 to 2009, shows that — based on widely used industry assumptions about the market price of gas and the cost of drilling and operating a well — less than 10 percent of the wells had recouped their estimated costs by the time they were seven years old.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/26/us/26gas.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
My bold so well life is 10 to 15 years after that it costs more money to pump up gas than you can sell the gas for. Next less than 10% of the wells had recouped the cost of drilling the wells in 7 years.
Thats assuming gas prices stay where they are and green energy does not become cheaper and competes with Natural Gas, that assumes Natural Gas companies won’t be sued for polluting the water around their wells and with tap water already catching fire thats not a safe bet. Thats assuming gas companies won’t be held liable for earthquakes caused by fracking.
I admit the price could go up if we have a war with Iran and Obama seems to want that very much.
I would love to be in Young’s office when he realizes that he just gave his election adversaries the best political commercial of the season.
First he demonstrates ignorance. Then he demonstrates arrogance. All within a 30 sound bite.
Boxturtle (Dr. Brinkley, If you’re ever in SW Ohio, I owe you a beer)
On 5 November an earthquake measuring 5.6 rattled Oklahoma and was felt as far away as Illinois.
Until two years ago Oklahoma typically had about 50 earthquakes a year, but in 2010, 1,047 quakes shook the state.
In Lincoln County, where most of this past weekend’s seismic incidents were centered, there are 181 injection wells, according to Matt Skinner, an official from the Oklahoma Corporation Commission, the agency which oversees oil and gas production in the state.
Cause and effect?
The practice of injecting water into deep rock formations causes earthquakes, both the U.S. Army and the U.S. Geological Survey have concluded.
http://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/U.S.-Government-Confirms-Link-Between-Earthquakes-and-Hydraulic-Fracturing.html
My bold Fracking is a new technology and we have only started using it and we are already getting earthquakes imagine how much worse the earthquakes will be after 10 or 20 years of Fracking. Just look at how many states there are where they are Fracking All those states are likely to be New earthquake States if we continue Fracking.
Bravo Dr. Brinkley!
No mas for these arrogant, corporate-owned shits.
Congress has a staff they can research all the stuff I said but I guess either they know we are going to war with Iran soon or they just get their information from oil company CEO’s while drinking $750 worth of wine at dinner.
If every
Congressperson had one Left blogger on staff to research stuff for them assuming they actually read the research they would not look so ignorant there is a reason why the majority of voters on the issues voters care about most are to the Left of even Obama and its not the MSM.
The only reason to ever give our “leaders” the respect they feel entitled to is if they have a good track record re governing. Nobody qualifies presently for that respect.
Nitpick: Don Young represents Alaska, not Alasaka. (Can we send him to Alasaka? I’d links that!!)
‘scuse the OT, but now, it looks like Obama’s successfully ginned up another Cold War with Russia.
Well, hell; we can’t spend too much money on warbot systems and counter-systems. Gotta protect the “defense contractors” from the surrender monkeys.
Which, come to think of it, was what Congressturd Young was trying to do when he thought he could play Reichsfurher to Dr. Brinkley.
The data suggest that if the wells’ production continues to decline in the current manner, many will become financially unviable within 10 to 15 years.
A review of more than 9,000 wells, using data from 2003 to 2009, shows that — based on widely used industry assumptions about the market price of gas and the cost of drilling and operating a well — less than 10 percent of the wells had recouped their estimated costs by the time they were seven years old.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/26/us/26gas.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
So for every dollar you spend fracking at current prices there is less than 90% chance you will get a 3% rate of return on your money if the well pays for itself in 7 years and one day and its life span is 7 years.
Assuming a life span of 15 years you more than double your money barely but thats over 15 years thats an ok rate of return but that assumes your at the top of the bell curve. And it assumes your investment won’t suffer from costs of bad water lawsuits as people ask for cash for homes, farms etc that are now worthless and earthquakes that destroy homes.
The America can be energy independent line is misleading we have the energy but to get it at current costs guarantees we stay in recession forever.
Woops!
http://news.yahoo.com/medvedev-russia-may-target-missile-defense-sites-123047622.html
Nitpick: Don Young represents Big Oil, not Alaska.
Boxturtle (I suppose that makes Big Oil the “state” with the most reps)
“…Congress so unresponsive to the country’s needs and public approval down around 9 percent…”
And whatever those 9%ers are smoking, can I get some?
Boxturtle,
Do you know when Young is next up for re-election?
I am in and out all day today but I just loved your comment about being in Young’s office.
Dr. Brinkley, as Boxturtle said, I would gladly buy you a beer too here in NW Illinois.
Have a great Thanksgiving Boxturtle and all firepups!
“I’ll call you anything I want to call you.”
“You just be quiet.”
Or: “Alles ist ordnung, Dr. whatever-your-name-is, and don’t you forget it!”
And to make it even more ‘interesting’ (scary), the 4.7 and 5.6 quakes were very close to the Tar Sands pipeline route. The pipeline route goes through Cushing, OK and if you draw a line due south from Cushing, and then mark the 5.6 quake and 4.7 quake epicenters, that line running south from Cushing (and since it’s a north/south pipeline, I’m assuming it would run due south from Cushing), one of the epicenters is 6 miles east and one is 6 miles west of the line about 35 miles south of Cushing. Nothing like running a pipeline right through the middle of a new quake zone caused by injection wells.
Young is a Representative – he is up for re-election every 2 years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6CpvU-DzxE
Reminds me of another historic exchange;
“Have you no sense of decency sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?”
Large contributors, friends, family and employees.
There is always sludge at the bottom of the barrel.
Jahowl Mine Herr!!
I sent off a congratulatory email to Prof. Brinkley. You can find his address on the Rice University website.
dakine01,
Thank you! As soon as I read your comment, it was a “duh” moment for me.
I thought he was a Senator.
Thank you, Dr Brinkley for putting this piece of garbage in his place so very effectively as to display his ignorance and lust for position for all to see. He is indeed a small, ill bred and irrelevant person. #OCCUPY.
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reminds me of the ignorant retort of gwbush to a protestor way back in the early ’00s – - ‘who cares what you think’
The time is done for unrepentant shills for the one percent of both parties – Every American can see clearly what are coordinated local police aggressions to thwart free speech and frighten Americans into choosing to abandon their rights to petition their greivances, all at the direction of the Feds and at the demand of the felonious holders of wealth.
Where is the Democratic party who should be demanding dismissals and arrests? Where is Obama?? Folks – belive this, they do not work for you!
The simple fact is that ‘when deception fails, they will choose force’ to protect their wealth, demand that you pay for their 600 trillion dollar gambling debt and require (by force if necessary) that you , your children and grandchildren will live lives of diminished expectations and debt peonage.
Time to choose sides, stand up & fight back…
Increase empathy/embrace action!
All real energy independence would require is the national will to accomplish it – and the will to gut the oil and gas cord and get serious about alternative energy. Geothermal, tidal, thermocline and many other technologies are already developed, simply waiting for implementation.
If we took away the various subsidies to the oil and nuclear industries, only applying half to developing these industries, it would take less than a decade to have much cheaper and more abundant energy – not to mention exportable technology.
Even considering the massive subsidies enjoyed by nuclear, it is far more expensive than it’s promoters claim (when your neighborhood gets a nuke, your rates skyrocket) claim. No private insurance company will insure that incredibly technology, so taxpayers are on the hook for damages. As Fukishima is proving, those costs, if fairly monitored, can bankrupt a country.
The costs aren’t fairly assessed, of course. How can anyone prove that the cancer they just got is the result of a release 20 years ago? These releases, btw, are often covered up with government complicity. The EPA stopped monitoring a few days after the Fukishima disaster began. Simply put, that is criminal – and it’s evidence that a lot more radiation is heading this way – and that the government would prefer you not to know about it.
Why would that be? Because our “environmentalist President” wants to build 22 more plants, while rubberstamping (through the fangless “watchdogs” at the NRC) the re licensing of every outmoded, dangerous plant that has outlived it’s intended lifespan.
For day-to-day coverage of the ongoing radiation plumes from Japan (carried here by the jet stream) and the releases from domestic plants you will never hear about in the MSM, try this: http://enenews.com/
The asshole legacy of Ted Stevens lives on.
Who’s in bed with senator Ted?
They’ll generate friction with jivin’ and shuckin’.
Oil’s a great lube,
but it’s you they’ll be fuckin.
Douglas Brinkley isn’t just some obscure, tweedy professor. He worked for the late Stephen Ambrose for quite a while on some of Ambrose’s various American history books.
Brinkley wrote the definitive book on the Katrina disaster, “Deluge.” The book very effectively tears down all of the miscreants, R and D, who caused the natural disaster to become a human catastrophe: Bush, Brownie, the N.O. mayor (whose name mercifully escapes me at the moment), the N.O. cops, and various Congresscritters. And he tells heart-rending tales of medical personnel at care-homes and hospitals, and of other good folk who responded to the emergency properly. I strongly recommend Deluge to anyone who wants to know the true story of Katrina.
There had been talk of Brinkley writing a book on the BP Gulf Gusher, but alas he turned it down.
FWIW, he’s a good buddy of Johnny Depp, and wrote a very interesting piece on Depp a few months ago for, I believe, Esquire. It shows Depp to be a truly intelligent guy.
Young didn’t get any payback. No one acknowledged the truth in what Brinkley said. It really is time to get out the pitch forks and torches. I have no sympathy for any of these Devils.
Thanks for the link! Fascinating exchange! However, the best show is the young lady sitting behind Congressman Young. Her eyes look like they are going to pop out of her head!!
People in Congress work for themselves. Expecting different considering how they arrive in that office is ludicrous in the extreme.
But hey… we can keep pissing and moaning about how our angels aren’t as good as they should be, or we can just stop relying on them entirely.
Thank you, Scarecrow.
Thank you, Douglas Brinkley.
Thank you, SP.
Brinkley’s Wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Brinkley
DW
F*ck Young he’s a fascistic bastard whose a soulless shill for OILY Inc. What he and the rest of them need is an apt. with Dr. Guillotine.
Die Macht des Staates ist sehr wichtig und ich bin es der wichtigste Staatsmann! Vergess es nicht!
Flamethrower, where have you been?
I haven’t see your comments for a long time!
Welcome back. (Unless I am a complete idiot and have been missing your comments).
Better get him a designated driver ’cause He ain’t gonna be walking very straight if we all got ours in as well!
Young believes that he is a member of an aristocracy, as do most members of Congress. He was pissed that a serf would correct him.
Former Mayor “Ray Nagin”. Good riddance.
Oh, man. We SO NEED a “Don Young shut up” meme to go along with the “Lieutenant Pike pepper-sprayer” meme!
You be quiet! :p
Yes, EVERY two years even though he is thoroughly corrupt and arrogant. When will Alaskans wise up?
How dare you! We invited you here to tell you to shut up and call your testimony garbage!!
Nobody but Kucinich..imo.
haha nice
To quote from the movie _The Brothers McMullen_: “You shut your mouth when you’re talking to me!”
Alaskans elected Sarah “I’m smarter than Herman Cain and more articulate than Rick Perry but still dumber than a bag or rocks” Palin. Don’t hold your breath!
Senator Sanders, I would add.
Far too quick. Better yet a total McDonald’s experience would ‘smarten’ these folks right up over a longer period of time, with much more discomfort, and the same result.
Let them eat Big Macs!