(David Grossman) said he feared that Netanyahu and Barak would bomb Iran partly out of a perceived strategic
need to back up their threats with action, but also because of what he sees as Netanyahu’s sense of historic responsibility to save the “people of eternity.” “He has this idea that we are the people of eternity, am ha’netzach from the Bible, and our negotiations, as he sees it, are with eternity, with the primal currents of history and mankind, while the United States, with all due respect, is just another superpower like Rome or Athens or Babylon, and we’ve survived them all,” said Grossman. “I’m afraid that this way of thinking might encourage Netanyahu to take the step” of attacking Iran. The Nation
David Grossman, along with Amos Oz, is Israel’s most prestigious writer and considered by many Israelis as the “conscience of the country”. He has given an interview in The Nation on Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s rush to war with Iran which is terrifying. I find Grossman’s insight into Bibi’s mind endlessly frightening and disturbing, Up til now I had thought that Netanyahu was a common and garden variety thug… now I think he might be seriously insane
If Grossman is right, that Netanyahu’s believes that Israelis are “the people of eternity”, and that Israel’s negotiations can only be with “eternity”, (whatever that is) this means that Israel is governed right now by someone who is crazier than any Ayatollah in Iran… Frankly that idea of negotiating with the “primal currents of history and mankind” has a certain weird, Nietzschean-Wagnerean ring to it: the distilled, national-mystical, vapors of fascism.
So Israel, so small and vulnerable, is now apparently ruled by a madman.
This takes me to what I call “Israel’s primal fallacy”.
That fallacy is the proposition that the Jewish people will only be safe when they are gathered together in a land where they are the sole inhabitants and depend entirely on their own power to defend themselves and that land must be in the tiny, biblical Israel.
I think if you proposed to the Jewish people’s greatest enemy in history, the idea that half the Jewish people in the world should gather together in a very small area, a territory where they could be utterly annihilated in the space of a couple of hours, that monster would think it a brilliant idea: such a time saver.
Any infantryman will tell you that soldiers under fire should never bunch up, but rather spread out… that is a soldier’s rule one. Not having crazy officers might be rule two.
Israel is breaking both rules.
My opinion is that the two greatest defenses ever possessed by the Jewish people, going all the way back to the days when Moses led them out of bondage in Egypt, are:
One: The United States Constitution, whose rules seem to be holding up better than the Bible’s in the years since it was written.
and
Two: America’s immense spaces.
In short I believe that the “promised land” of the Jews is the United States of America, where Jews can be as Jewish as they want (see Brooklyn’s Hasidim) or as assimilated (see Noam Chomsky) as they wish and participate, à la carte, in the mainstream of an amazingly varied human tapestry (see Walt Whitman) … all in perfect safety.
Even the West Bank settlers (most of whom seem to already be US citizens) could make a pilgrimage to what I would call “eretz yiArizona“, where they could keep their guns and try their luck at hassling Mexicans… America has something for everybody… if you don’t see what you want just ask.
Not only that, perhaps most importantly of all, the United States of America is probably the only country in the world that truly loves Jewish people, where they have actually created much of what the world knows and loves of America. What I am afraid of is that disasters flowing from the “people of eternity” mysticism could in any way sour that “promised land”.
Cross posted from: http://seaton-newslinks.blogspot.com




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Comrade, w/ Israel, Jews had the best of both worlds.
Oops. Fucked ‘em both up.
Explain to me again how this is any different than Adolf Hitler and Nazism ?
Netanyahu announced fourteen anti-Semitic Pogroms against West Bank Arabs: Fourteen towns to be bulldozed. Who would have thought that less than 60 years after Hitler, Israel itself would be carrying out anti-Semitic Pogroms, and the USA applauding it.
Richard Silverstein truly eviscerates Bibi’s Iranian aspirations… U.S. Leaks War-Plan for Iran Attack…
I’m pretty sure there were a lot of Jews in 1920s Germany who thought they were in a modern society and that talk of a Zionist state was just silly. A persecuted minority will always be safer in a state where they are the majority.
And if you think there’s no anti-Semitism in America, you need to read some of the ADL’s annual surveys on this. (Too lazy to link, sorry.)
40% of this country thinks the Bible is the literal word of God. (So that therefore God approves of Father/Daughter sex, which is somehow omitted from Leviticus’s list of “thou shalt not”s. People like I feel it’s more likely to be an editing error, and the authors didn’t intend to tell Papa John Phillips that Mackenzie was fair game, but 40% of Americans disagree with me.)
47% of this country thinks that Angels walk amongst us. (And not the Los Angeles Angels, either.) Invisible beings with wings, looking out for us. Excuse me while I twirl in a circle with my arms extended and fists balled so I can bop my “guardian angel” in the face. (He’s done a shitty job, tbqh.)
The idea that a country largely inhabited by ultra-religious Christian idiots is a “safe” place for non-Christians is IMO dangerously naive. I may have renounced Judaism for atheism (because “God” is a silly idea no matter which book you read, IMO), but I’ll be damned if I’m going to tell my once-co-religionists to throw themselves on the mercy of the yahoos in this burg.
L’Shana Haba’a B’Yerushalayim!
(None of which makes Bibi or his policies any better. But the idea that Israel isn’t necessary and America is a paradise for the Jews is utter garbage, IMO.)
Ya…right…and they are the only ones ? And we did such as fantastic job of helping and protecting the natives here too. /s
America is not The Promised Land; it is The City On The Hill. Or somesuch. Puritans and the like.
Re Israeli politics, well, those who really think of themselves as The Chosen People are not far from others who thought they were The Master Race, I think.
(No exceptionalism.)
P.S. I’m an American, but there’s no avoiding the genocide of this nation, or that it was a great slave-holding power. I’m not claiming the high road.
At best cynical naivete. Zionists have exploited the Christian fundamentalists here in order to have protection there. I find amusing the delusion that Jews don’t know what the fundamentalists have in mind when Jeebus comes back to Jerusalem; never do those ironists dare conjecture what Jews have in mind since Jeebus is never returning. Clever trap, that.
Anything to say about that hypocrisy, comrade?
Sure! What on Earth does Israel’s taking advantage of the “Christian” bigots’ admittedly-temporary desire for a Jewish state have to do with whether or not our “born-again” superstitious cesspool is a safe place for non-”Christians”? It’s not as though if Bibi refused the help of the Jesus Freaks that they would crumble and wither from the shame.
In fact, by drawing off their capital into support for a Jewish state of Israel, the Israeli government is arguably making life for intelligent non-haters ever-so-slightly better in these Benighted States of America. Every dollar the “Christians” raise for Israel is a dollar they can’t spend firebombing abortion clinics or subverting school boards and the like.
It may be “dirty” money, but I’m reasonably sure the Knesset is not working on a program to vanish from the Earth when Jeebus resurrects* just because their insano “allies” in the ultra-right churches wish it so. I have no problem with Israel acquiring the funds it needs to maintain a Jewish-majority state, regardless of which invisible-Angel-worshipping wackos it comes from. JMO.
Fleece the loonies and save your ass. Somehow I doubt Netanyahu is the first Jewish leader to hit upon that particular stratagem. Hypocrisy? Not in the slightest.
(*-especially since Jeebus never existed, and therefore is not coming back. Not that Israel has agreed to any such “you can have the land until Jesus resurrects” deal, but even if they had, there’s no problem if you know you’ll never have to pay up. Keep the money coming, suckers! We’ll keep a light out for Jesus, yeah, sure. No problem, guys. We’re good, here. Love ya, bro. Peace.)
You grievously miscalculate, as if insulated from mistake. Not only are their dollars received in exchange for more sinister mythology, the bigots organize a crusade to plunder more.
The Israeli government does not care to make life better for intelligent non-haters and, inarguably, it’s proxies do not.
Fleece the loonies and save your ass? How comes it that a socialist would be so ignorant and vicariously mercenary?