From Bloomberg’s interview with Joseph Stiglitz on the Obama administration’s economic policies:
“All the ingredients they have so far are weak, and there are several missing ingredients,” Stiglitz said in an interview yesterday. The people who designed the plans are “either in the pocket of the banks or they’re incompetent.”
“We don’t have enough money, they don’t want to go back to Congress, and they don’t want to do it in an open way and they don’t want to get control” of the banks, a set of constraints that will guarantee failure, Stiglitz said.
The Public-Private Investment Program, PPIP, designed to buy bad assets from banks, “is a really bad program,” Stiglitz said. It won’t accomplish the administration’s goal of establishing a price for illiquid assets clogging banks’ balance sheets, and instead will enrich investors while sticking taxpayers with huge losses.
“You’re really bailing out the shareholders and the bondholders,” he said. “Some of the people likely to be involved in this, like Pimco, are big bondholders,”
“The statement from Sheila Bair that there’s no risk is absurd,” he said, because losses from the PPIP will be borne by the FDIC, which is funded by member banks.
“We’re going to be asking all the banks, including presumably some healthy banks, to pay for the losses of the bad banks,” Stiglitz said. “It’s a real redistribution and a tax on all American savers.”
“America has had a revolving door. People go from Wall Street to Treasury and back to Wall Street,” he said. “Even if there is no quid pro quo, that is not the issue. The issue is the mindset.”
He called the $787 billion stimulus program necessary but “flawed” because too much spending comes after 2009, and because it devotes too much of the money to tax cuts “which aren’t likely to work very effectively.”
“It’s really a peculiar policy, I think,” he said.
The $75 billion mortgage relief program, meanwhile, doesn’t do enough to help Americans who can’t afford to make their monthly payments, he said. It doesn’t reduce principal, doesn’t make changes in bankruptcy law that would help people work out debts, and doesn’t change the incentive to simply stop making payments once a mortgage is greater than the value of a house.
Relying on low interest rates to help put a floor under housing prices is a variation on the policies that created the housing bubble in the first place, Stiglitz said.
“This is a strategy trying to recreate that bubble,” he said. “That’s not likely to provide a long run solution. It’s a solution that says let’s kick the can down the road a little bit.”
So, to recap, we have an a policy that won’t succeed in it’s stated goals, may succeed in creating another bubble and will succeed in giving away a vast amount of taxpayer money. If that’s true, guess I’m going to go with "in the pocket of the banks."



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I’m leaning toward both. However another big 1,000 or more point in the dow which I think is likely this year might change some political realities.
Axing Geithner and Summers are the only sacrifices that would convince the people, congress and small investors that Obama is changing his ways.
And that will be necessary before Obama can get more money for the banks this year.
Which I think is a given.
Obama is not an economist we know that still just what kind of happy happy funtime snowjob is Geithner feed Obama?
I still do not see how this plan could work. I try to follow Geithner’s reasoning but I’m not seeing any reasoning, any possible scenario, or set of circumstances where this plan could work.
I can’t even call it a plan I see actions that accomplish nothing but delay its lke they assume the market will get better all on its own and they just have to wait.
This Business cycles thing everything will get better if we just wait and do nothing is a Hoover concept.
Edward Harrison, guest posting at naked capitalism, described a way the Obama/Summers/Geithner plan (based on the stimulus, a “quasi-fiscal role for the Fed,” a “quasi-fiscal role for the FDIC,” mark to myth, low interest rates, and “bank margin increases.”) might be able to succeed in creating a fake recovery:
Willem Buiter at the Financial times (via naked capitalism) says that Treasury’s bank bailout plan will have to change:
I vote “pocket.” Thus, incompetent.
Thanks for the post selise.
I wish we could sponsor some kind of econ summit and bring in our “fave” list of economists and come up with an econ plan, gather tons of signatures on the plan and then present it to the administration… and then, challenge their response to our proposed plan.
It would be an interesting moment in terms of the MSM. It would pretty much tell us who are all the players based on media coverage.
I think forcing the CEO’s and top bank executives to put up half their personal cash into bank stock would be a great symbolic gesture that would give the bankers personal incentive to fix the banks.
Plus I can’t think of anything else that would do more to restore confidence in the banks. Granted even that might not work but more money?
Well given how many times I have heard in the last year, the banks just need more money…but we won’t show you the balance sheet.
Well I can’t trust anyone’s numbers because nobody really knows for sure.
Also more money might save the banks but just when will the tax payers get their cash back?
With interest above inflation I want a bank bailout plan with a firm repay our money at a certain date with late fees for late repayment.
would love to see summers and geithner fired.
i like this idea of The People’s Economic Summit. let’s do it.
thanks selise. dugg and recommended. i love hearing stiglitz.
People ask me what the heck the government is doing in dealing with this crisis, and I always ask them if they’ve seen The Matrix. Picture Timothy Geithner as Keanu Reeves, “There is no bubble.” as he tries to bend a solvency crisis into a liquidity crisis with nothing but the powers of his mind (limited as they are).
At this point though I do feel like it’s safe to say Obama, Summers, and Geithner are either criminally incompetent or incompetently criminal. Plausible deniability went out the door awhile ago.
ok, you’ve got me changing my vote. the two are not mutually exclusive and there very likely is a causal relationship.
would also love to see such a summit. i think the entertainment value could be high too if they would all really let their hair down.
I agree. The stimulus may have some moderate effect in 2010 but it will be largely done by 2011. At that point, we are going to be right back where we are now but with higher debt loads limiting our options.
The way Obama is handling the economy is not an isolated circumstance. He has moved (slowly) to close Guantanamo but is expanding Bagram. So he is not walking away from indefinite detention and lack of habeas corpus. He is just moving them further afield. He releases the obscene torture memos but says that he will not pursue anyone who relied on their blatantly dishonest reasoning. This effectively condones past torture and conveys no warnings to future torturers. Indeed it sends the message that if you torture in the name of the USA, you’re safe.
I could throw in his Iraq and Afghanistan policies as well but for me the conclusion is clear. Obama is a continuation of the Bush Administration. I repeat myself but he does not reject the basic tenets of the Bush Imperial Presidency. He only seeks to make a few adjustments to them.
In other words, what disappoints us about Obama is not a bug. It’s a feature. Note how all the talk about “change we can believe in” has gone away? I don’t see it coming back unless for the rubes at election time.
can’t disagree with a word you’ve written. imo, the ratchet effect in action.
Mr Obama needs a complete do-over concerning his high-money racketeers that are overseeing our nations economy. If we wanted corruption we could have kept stinkin’ Republicans. We need Progressives now!
http://www.usatoday.com/news/n…..clude=Juno
I’m totally disgusted by Obama’s economic policies and feel totally paralyzed over its hugeness and wrongness. HELP
Blessings,
i4u2bi @14 – wow. thanks for the link.
marchan1940 @15 – you are not alone. (((marchan1940)))
Selise,
Thanks for your continuing work on reporting these things. I appreciate it, and Recommended your post!
Bob in HI
yves smith: Stiglitz: Bank Plan Destined to Fail, Doomed By White House/Wall Street Ties
Should that be “din,” as in clamor, rather than “dim”?
Bob in HI
i think you’re right, bob. thanks.
Hearing Obama telling people to refinance their mortgages made me gag. What are they trying to do, wring out the last drop of equity from people who weren’t stupid enough to get on the carousel the first time? Does he think that will add stimulus that he hasn’t to the economy?
Keynes pointed out in the General Theory that this capitalist system comes with shocks and crises already built-in. they are endemic to the system. That portion of his work was ignored by people like Hicks and Hansen when they decided to hijack Keynes’s work to come up with the IS-LM model.
These recessions we have aren’t accidents. As long as we allow the banks to value the assets on their books, as long as we decline to exercise oversight over CMSs and CDOs, as long as we keep accepting the conventional economic wisdom without revisitng Keynes, Minsky, and, yes, Marx (believe me, he predicted all of this more than 150 years ago), we will continue to watch the Wall Street insiders working for the government give our money away to banks.
How the f*ck did JPMorgan manage to post a $1.8 billion profit? How much of that “profit” came from our tax dollars?
selise, thanks very much. Dugg and recommended.
Thank you.
sometime this weekend i’m going to post a speech from an economic historian who did his phd thesis on minsky. can’t wait to see what you will make (i don’t know this stuff, but am trying to learn a bit).
from barry ritholtz at the big picture: Stiglitz: Blame Summers