The latest spill extent graphic from NOAA shows an increasingly staggering area impacted by the Horizon well leak by mid-week. Winds have reversed now, spreading the slick Westward, and temporarily relieving fears that the slick could migrate to the East Coast though Atlantic fisheries could still be impacted.
The slick is now so large that space-based resources such as those held by NASA are needed to monitor it. The Coast Guard conceded days ago that there is no exact way to know how much oil has spilled. Simply multiplying the current best-guess flow rate from the three well leaks by the number of days since April 22 would place the total spill volume in excess of 2 million gallons of oil. Confusion reigns as to what magnitude of disaster we are really seeing as some note that the spill is not the worst in history in terms of volume of oil spilled, whereas others rely on potential economic and environmental ramifications.
A chorus of buffoons has begun playing politics and making ludicrous, embarrassing statements worthy of note:
… "We don’t know what the event that has allowed for this massive oil to be released," Perry said. "And until we know that, I hope we don’t see a knee-jerk reaction across this country that says we’re going to shut down drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, because the cost to this country will be staggering." — Texas Governor Rick Perry, calling the spill "just an act of God" — Note to Rick: If God created an environmentally disastrous offshore oil spill, couldn’t that be God telling us to stop offshore drilling? etc
… “This bill was strongly criticized by hard-core environmentalist wackos because it supposedly allowed more offshore drilling and nuclear plants,” said Limbaugh of the yet to be unveiled Kerry-Graham-Lieberman climate and energy bill.
“What better way to head off more oil drilling, nuclear plants, than by blowing up a rig?” Limbaugh asked. “I’m just, I’m just noting the timing here.” — Rush Limbaugh, Department of Unfoundable and Unforgivable Insinuations.
… What I want people to know is this isn’t Katrina. This is not Armageddon. I did this for the Coast Guard many years ago. Yeah, it’s bad. And it’s terrible that there’s a spill out there. But I would remind people that the oil is twenty miles from any marsh. … That chocolate milk looking spill starts breaking up in smaller pieces … It is tending to break up naturally …" — Representative Gene Taylor, confusing the milk his mommy put in his lunchbox with the oil spill he was flying over.
… "This is exactly what they want, because now he can pander to the environmentalists and say, ‘I’m gonna shut it down because it’s too dangerous,’" Brown said. "This president has never supported big oil, he’s never supported offshore drilling, and now he has an excuse to shut it back down." — Michael "Brownie" Brown, taking a break from managing the Arabian horse club long enough to help confuse and muddle the response to another Gulf disaster.
Bill Kristol apparently thinks that the disaster wouldn’t have been an issue if the drilling was only closer to shore. Note to Bill: the drilling was far offshore because that is where an accessible, desirable location in the Tiber oil field was located. "Fox News" probably shouldn’t ask Bill about oil drilling anymore if he makes statements so stupid that one doesn’t even need to point out his ideologically bent worldview to expose him as a fool. Bill doesn’t seem to grasp that it was BP that told us everything was fine drilling in deep water location offshore, that BP sought permission to explore and drill in these waters, and that it is the oil industry that wants deep water drilling, not a conspiracy of liberal environmentalists who think deep water is OK just not right off the beach.
Finally, we have a truly ominous statement from Robert Gibbs, the Obama administration mouthpiece:
"The president was specific in ordering [Department of Interior] Secretary [Ken] Salazar to look at all the possible aspects of what could go wrong in this instance [and] to report back to him in that thirty day period," Gibbs said in response to a question from the Huffington Post. "This is an administration that is going to take any information we can get from that and have that dictate our decision making going forward. I think it would be premature to get too far ahead of where Secretary Salazar’s investigation is."
The fact that the Obama administration is doing anything besides going full speed ahead in rolling back their previous support for more offshore oil drilling, even as this terrible spill is in its early stages, is very disheartening. Furthermore, Gibbs seems to be indicating that Obama views Ken Salazar, a drilling proponent, as the "lead" figure in the investigation. That too is frightening. It’s not clear what is premature about a spill that now requires NASA and NOAA satellite resources to monitor, its so huge.
The coming weeks are going to show us a lot about President Obama. I think many of us will agree that, if we emerge from the spill of the Deepwater Horizon with anything less than a permanent moratorium on expanded offshore oil drilling, and climate change energe policies moving forward without this drilling built in, that Obama will have permanently discredited himself with the environment, and, further, as a guardian of the public interest.
Greenpeace has moved online and on-the-ground resources into place in the Gulf area. On its web site Greenpeace has taken a step I find quite laudable in the charge to raise awareness about the implications of this spill. View their oil spill site. Note that partway down the page Greenpeace has assembled a high-quality graphic displaying "maps" of Horizon-like spill extents if they were to happen in other proposed drilling sites. I encourage everyone to spread this graphic around, go viral with it. This is exactly the kind of easy, visual, and immediate representation of what can happen around any of these proposed drilling sites we need right now, supportable by what has factually happened in the last two weeks.
The Sierra Club has on its web page a replay of the burning rig photo from the first two days of the Horizon fire, that has a "donate money to help" statement printed over it. The Sierra Club has had high-ranking figures present in online media but it appears that the Club is going to use the disaster as a fundraising bonanza. I’d give the Sierra Club an "F" if it wasn’t for a few written pieces I’ve seen from them in recent days on the widely-read Huffington Post. Instead, I’ll give them an "E", for "Exploitation", that is, their apparent intention of prioritizing their fundraising in the disaster. They might as well sell sea turtle meat by the seashore. They interleave the picture of a Northern Gannet being scrubbed of oil with the burning rig picture. With all their resources, do they not have a single photographer on the ground in the Gulf getting their own pictures for them?
Oceana has built up a presence in the issue that deserves its own web log entry. I encourage people to watch what Oceana does wit this disaster. Likewise, the NRDC appears to be going full throttle on raising awareness, they are showing up over and over in mass media coverage.
As 3/4 of the boom available to contain the spill fails in rough weather – and it was an insufficient amount by far – BP has prepared the first of three "containment chambers" they hope to mitigate the spill’s extent in the months remaining before their intervention well can be drilled. Looking at the image of the rusty, improvised, clunky four-story steel box that is to be lowered into a mile of water even after we know that most of the spilled oil can never be cleaned up I ask myself: how did it come to this?
Couldn’t the 350 million dollars that went into the building of the Deepwater Horizon have resulted in a response to a predictable disaster that didn’t boil down to the panicked attempt to construct a crude steel box to lower over a spewing well leak? This is the real story here – how did two hundred-billion-dollar-plus corporations (BP and Transoceanic), with massive engineering resources available, working within a supposed Federal regulatory environment, produce a spectacular high-tech failure and ecological disaster and the only response that the Federal government and BP have together is an insufficient amount of boom breaking down under moderate wave action at the coastline, and a rusty four-story steel box intended to sit under a mile of water over a high-tech well with a 450,000 kilogram blowout preventer that never activated? I believe that the answer to that question will be sufficient, once made clear, to permanently block or end deepwater offshore drilling.




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Seymour, you’ve been doing some great reporting on the spill. The other day you linked to the Wikipedia entry on the Ixtoc blowout. According to the entry:
This was the 2nd largest spill in history and it was in the Gulf of Mexico and it occurred 31 years ago.
Unfortunately, the Wikipedia page does not describe how long it took for that spill to be cleaned up or to dissipate or for the area affected to recover (assuming it has recovered). Can you shed any light on that? It might help us to understand what to expect in terms of how long the effects of this spill are likely to persist in this case. Thanks!
Hey this is a great idea but has taken a little to long.
There are already built storage tanks that they could have been reinforced and had out to the sight weeks ago to do the same job.
Again some of our master engineers take the long route, because there to smart to take short cuts.
You see in this Country we think all our people are so smart, and the shape of the Country, and the fact we have a hard time solving our problems proves we let near imbeciles run everything. We still think those Bankers are smart men, and our Generals are genius’s, and our Politicians know enough to run our Country.
Great reporting, Seymour. Keep em coming.
THe oil hands at theoildrum.com have quite a bit of reservation over this steel and concrete thing that needs to settle into the mud, possibly pinching off the riser, causing additional leaks.
Thanks for the great effort Seymour !
Good work on the cap efforts, Seymour.
I must take issue with what seems to be an effort to paint Sierra Club as a member of a green veal pen. I checked out Greenpeace’s website and saw the same request for donation as at Sierra Club’s, as both are dependent on donations from individuals and trusts. SC also was the first NGO (IIRC) to put together a form comment to add to the MMS website re public scoping of Obama’s expansion (the same action I’ve been urging since early April). Michael Brune, SC’s new leader, comes from a direct-action-activist background and even before Oilpocalypse has threatened to pull SC’s support for the climate bill over offshore drilling; that tactic will be far more effective in the long run than Greenpeace announcing it hates the bill sight unseen.
Great idea! Thanks.
Thanks for that information – this is going to be a long enough issue that determining who is veal pen and who is not will be an extensive work involving building consensus across a lot of viewpoints.
Update 1:
The unforgivable Mary Landrieu, Democrat of Louisiana has already signaled that the oil slick threatening Louisiana’s environment and economy shouldn’t stop more offshore drilling:
Notice how she references “our country”? I wonder if in her mind “our country” includes her State of Louisiana? Between Katrina (which dumped oil in the water) and the Horizon disaster (which is currently dumping oil in the water at a rate nobody knows for sure but which is undeniably “large”) the State of Louisiana should be in the streets protesting Landrieu and oil drilling. Yet this terrible Senator who is known as one of the oil industry’s best friends is trying to sign up her own people for the high-risk proposition of becoming, involuntarily, some of the nation’s best trained and most experienced disastrous oil spill responders.
Lump Mary Landrieu right in with Blanche Lincoln. They’ve got to go.
Above quote visible here.
Landrieu is bought and paid for by the oil companies.
My new favorite Republican seascum (like pondscum, but bigger) senator is Kyl, who is frantically backpedaling away from the chant “drill, baby, drill” even as he calls for drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Unbelievable.
a full size version of the noaa graphic up top is at the noaa site here
Fits in so well with the 2 at the top, Rick & Rush. Why do these folks get a microphone?
Yes, thanks, I deliberately didn’t link to the PDF because not everyone likes hitting a link and downloading one of those, however it is good to have it up.
Because they agree to say whatever the microphone owner wants.
Bingo, sadly, especially since what they say is so offensive. Who is Rick Perry to be interpreting the mind of God?
And how paranoid or deranged does one have to be to make up a deliberate act? Scott Peck talks about the quality of evil that makes one “recoil”. We’re seeing it in some of these words.
SEND…HAIR,PET HAIR and NYLONS to the coast they make fantastick booms
Alcoholic thinking! The amazing thing about “substance abuse” is the defense mechanisms “employed” to rationalize a dysfunctional acceptance of the negative consequences associated with, learned addictions instilled by corporate design…….
Modify behavior or die…….. They must go………
I wish we’d all stop calling it a spill. It’s really an underwater geyser. The imagery for the word spill is much more benign than what is actually happening. What do the oil people call the wells when they first start gushing before they cap them for a controlled flow?
When I look at the photos of the rusty steel dome, I just keep thinking “shrapnel”. I don’t know why.
“It’s hard to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon not understanding it.” H.L. Mencken
Simply adjust the above quote to reflect the feminine gender re: Landrieu and Lincoln…….
Now, for the MOTU – never ones to waste a tragedy-forthwith an excerpt from your Right Hand Thief blogspot:
Perhaps something exciting and unregulated can come from this tragedy
Jim Jelter at CBS MarketWatch writes a good short piece.
“In a world of unintended consequences, BP’s Gulf of Mexico oil spill could set the stage for Wall Street’s next derivatives bonanza.
(Well that’s good. Wouldn’t want Wall Street to be left high and dry when there’s blood on the streets, or oil in the water.)
It’s all about bundling risk. And no one understands it better than big banks and big oil.
After the Exxon Valdez spill, an Alaska jury demanded $5 billion in punitive damages from Exxon.The thinking at the time was that the giant oil company should forfeit roughly a year’s worth of profits.
Exxon moved to protect itself by raising a $4.8 billion credit line from J.P. Morgan. J.P. Morgan, to protect itself in turn from an eventual default by Exxon, came up with a novel financial instrument called the credit default swap. Now a $30 trillion international marketplace, credit default swaps were also at the core of the global financial market’s biggest blowout in decades.
Who knows what Wall Street’s wizards might whip up to protect BP?”
Link to follow
If you’ve ever worked in a large corporation in the past thirty years, you would know the answer to your “how” question. They are making up the strategy as they go along and there are too many ideas vying for implementation so that some manager can look like a hero.
Your Right Hand ThiefMay 4, 2010 … Perhaps something exciting and unregulated can come from this tragedy. Jim Jelter at CBS MarketWatch writes a good short piece: …
righthandthief.blogspot.com/…/perhaps-something-exciting-and.html – 9 hours ago
Humid Beings – All The BlogsPerhaps something exciting and unregulated can come from this tragedy. 9 hours ago. Jim Jelter at CBS MarketWatch writes a good short piece:In a world of …
nola.humidbeings.com/blogs/ – 37 minutes ago
Fascinating piece of history and quite possibly our future as well.
How do you “cap” Vesuvius?
imo .. they were lucky to have the old ugly rusty containment domes available for rework .. otherwise new construction would have taken 6 to eight weeks .. of course it remains to be seen if these structures will function at the 5000 foot depth .. but at least there is a chance to shut off the flow .. otherwise this slow motion creeping death for all things marine and and the birds and the marshlands would just go on and on until the relief weel could be put down ..
re: #18 < << What do the oil people call the wells when they first start gushing before they cap them for a controlled flow?>>>
a: gusher
my point wasn’t that it could be capped. i was trying to figure out what to call it that would more accurately reflect what’s actually happening. this thing is an ongoing gusher, not a spill.
The financial meltdown was preceded by a period of high energy costs, right? When the cost of milk was more or the same as a gallon of gas, you are screwed. Drunks usually forget facts relevant to reality! The effect of this “corporate fuck up” will negate any gains of growth in the economy. It is a sad reality when “”drunks”" just ignore right and wrong in the lust for endless profit.
We needed a trigger for the first meltdown. $147.00 per Barrel Oil and the liberty extraction machine as it rippled through the economy like a tsunami! Then… then the meltdown and the dropping of oil like a rock!
Now we have the mechanism for the “double dip” as they say, and Wall Street Wins gain, just as Jefferson feared. Increases in gas prices just before Memorial Day, as usual!
Corporate aristocrats with financial ties protecting corporate slime in legalized crime, at the “”expense”" of life and Liberty all the time! I hope I’m wrong!!
I was reading Moorethink.com latest blog on the subject.
He reported that it took drilling two relief wells and that the “spill” went on for nine months – the time to drill the two other holes.
That spill was approximately 3 trillion gallons of oil by the time it was finished. However it was only one hole gushing and not at the extreme rate this one is.
As far as the clean-up, Moore lives in Texas and says that on days when wind and wave conditions are just right “oil balls” still roll up on the beaches – and it has been thirty years.
He also has some interesting info on the dynamics of “capping” this blowout.
We may be placed in the situation of writing off the entire Gulf of Mexico as an environmental disaster too big to fix.
Seymour, you’re a most excellent writer, very astute. Thanks for your contributions here.
I totally agree with you .
It raises my hackles when the less egregious term “spill’ is relentlessly applied to this deep sea volcano .
Gusherzilla!
Just went over to read. That’s a great article. And right on, too. This looks to be potentially shaping up as the worst disaster this country has faced. Color me not optimistic about them getting this well capped or diverted.
I have been negligent in NOT acknowledging the superb efforts of Mr. Friendly.
Thanks for the reminder,alank.
Riffing on that:
The ongoing underwater oil eruption.
Good one!
Double ditto. I am sooooo glad that this disaster has not been relegated to inside the fold at FDL. Thank you so much Seymour. I expect that before we’re done, regardless of every other evil going on right now at the hands of our elected officials, this will have the biggest effect in our world.
The depth of sadness I feel about what’s happening is hard to convey. Our world, our water is being deeply fouled.
Stick it to ‘em, Seymour! What a bunch of boobs.
“Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish caught will we realize we cannot eat money.”
~ Cree Indian Proverb
(Nor can we eat crude oil.)
x2
Thank you so much for these postings. as someone who works on public land issues under Salazar’s Interior on a daily basis – all I can say is what a mistake Salazar’s appointment was – and it is laughable that lightweight big empty hat Salazar would be in charge of an investigation into this tragic spill.
Salazar is huge part of the problem. he has left the Good Old Bush Boys n Girls largely untouched in Interior.
Thank you for your continuing contributions here, Seymour Friendly.
I applaud your relentless reportage.
That is all.
Carry on, please.
Please tell us more, if possible, in a Seminal diary of your own.
The Bush/Cheney left-behinds and burrowed-ins terrify me, in every agency.
Please illuminate this, and tell us what you know, as much as you can.
Thank you.
You realize all steel structures built outside, especially in humid coastal areas, are rusty at birth, right? I doubt they’ll paint this before deploying it — blast & paint takes days.
did not know that. thanks for
adding tostarting my steel building education.If you survey the industry news, you find out pretty quickly, that deep-water drilling is the most profitable of all offshore drilling in recent times when the cost of crude has been “low.” As treacherous as this type of drilling is, the financial incentives are still there, mainly because the negative externalities of failure are never born by the business. The costs of the spill are entered into the social costs ledger.
Regarding the act of god proclamation from the dim governor, I’m reminded of a comment from a Jonathan Miller series on disbelief:
A small nuke detonated above the head might seal the well. Melt the drill casings and cauterize the wound vs 90 days of discharged oil? R
Your number on the earlier spill is not correct.
There are 42 gallons/barrel. According to the post you cited at Moorethink (thanks; a new blog for me), the total earlier “spill” was 3 million barrels, or approximately 150 million gallons.
The current spill could be larger. One estimate is 5.5 million gallons/day. If we go ninety days (the minimum time for the relief well to be completed) then we will be looking at approximately 500 million gallons.
I expect we’ll hear more about the Ixtoc gusher in the coming days. I’m surprised that I hadn’t heard of it before, given the similar scale of the disaster.
You are correct – I counted all the zeros wrong. My bad.
That all went into the Gulf, and didn’t kill the Gulf?
3 Trillion Gallons?
Are you SURE about that number????????????????????
The Tiber Field, said to be spread out over 25K miles (Skytruth) is said to have 6 BILLION gallons in it.
Trillions????????
If 3 Trillion gallons of disaster didn’t shut down our planet’s oceans in sum toto, I don’t know what will.
3 Trillion gallons of ANYTHING in the oceans would kill them, you’d think . . . thanks for your insight math wise.
That pesky detail was killiln me as I continued reading comments . . . . ;-)
IF there’s 6 Billion gallons in the Tiber Field (where the disaster has occurred) and even a BILLION gallons get out, can we be a bit assured the Gulf could easily be dead?
Mind my manners, thanks for yeoman’s continued work SF for all you are doing on this. Along with Mary Mc’s listings, and all Pup comments and links, this community is likely as well informed as anyone inside the industry.
And we don’t have to SIGN no stinking non-disclosure/censor waivers!!!!! *shakeshisfist*
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-oil-spill-20100505,0,776164.story
US Navy Now!
The entirety of the Tiber field is not sitting under a single well like a balloon deflating. However, the oil well that is leaking should be considered bottomless as far as the likely, multi-month, time extent of the leak.
Salazar was regarded as a questionable or “centrist” (ie, bad) pick. Please let us know more.
Please consider that perhaps setting of a nuclear bomb underwater – an absurd notion that was even hosted by the New York Times web site in a B list blog entry – might have environmental ramifications beyond an oil spill.
It’s appalling this story now doesn’t even make the headlines or front pages of many sites…numbing at times. But also realize: This is part of “their” strategy.
Throwing so many critical things our way, one on top of the other, that we barely have time to digest one when another pops up…so we don’t HOLD ON to any of them. Just move on move on move on…to try and keep up. While the oligarchs/Bilderbergs/police state controllers get away with murder. Literally.
The one bright spot: On a spiritual level, I sense they’re panicking. They really do know people are “waking up” to what they’ve been doing, waking up to the depth of their corruption…so how are they responding? By trying to throw us off by tossing everything but the kitchen sink our way.
For the record: I’ve been on this “awakening” journey for over twenty years now, and what I see/sense…is they cannot hold their position, their power much longer. In desparate attempts, they’re conjuring up the worst of the very worst…grasping to hold on.
Please stand firm, and embrace the Truth we know is changing the world. (And it IS changing the world. Reminder: There are many more on the planet who want to honor it…than who don’t care if it’s destroyed or not. We tend to lose sight of that based on a skewed and corrupt media.)
Thanks, Seymour, for giving this your loving attention. And thanks to commenters who reflect the same care and love by their words.
And I would ask, for those so inclined, to focus on “seeing” the Gulf in pristine, vibrant, thriving mode. See all life surrounding as joyful, well, super alive.
Coming from a clear heart.
It can make a difference.
Blessings.
A witness to the explosion on the rig described the cause of the accident as an unexpected and extremely powerful kickback of natural gas under at least 30,000 to 40,000 PSI up the riser pipe. The natural gas was under so much pressure that it blasted all of the seawater out of the mile long riser pipe to the surface with sufficient force to splash it against the ceiling of the rig 240 feet above the end of the riser pipe. This description is consistent with Moore’s analysis referenced @ 27.
Since natural gas is heavier than air, invisible, and odorless, it began to settle and collect invisibly in low areas all over the rig until a spark, perhaps caused by static electricity, ignited the gas and blew up the rig. He said the 11 men were working together on the main floor near the mouth of the riser pipe, which is a low spot, and were immediately incinerated inside the blast.
The circumstances he described sounded to me like ultrahazardous and unpredictable activity that can literally blow up in your face no matter how careful you are because of the high pressures. Although he reached a different conclusion, I think the risk of causing massive destruction and death is too high to justify further deep water drilling.
Because of the extremely high pressurized natural gas that is driving this underwater oil gusher, I also doubt that placing large structures over it will remain in place for very long.
This is not looking good.
Listen to the witness interview at this link provided by Mary McCurnin.
http://www.drillingahead.com/video/transocean-survivor-interview
Thanks for the link, Mason. This firms up the most likely cause of the fire on the rig. The blowout preventer failure is a common enough occurrence as reported in the past week or so. The record depth reached in this latest ultra deep-water venture certainly raises concerns about all sorts of precedents and imponderables. When this happened, though, BP was about to announce a very substantial oil find.
Again, the profit was so much better at this level of drilling they were willing to take the risk of mishaps and perhaps even far worse.
A giant steel box? Yeah, okay then. Idiot’s. I can’t wait to see how they’re gonna maneuver a box over a gushing oil well, I think oil is lighter than water, meaning, once the box starts to fill with oil, they expect it to stay facing down? Like putting a bowl under water and filling it with air, and expecting it to remain pointing down, DOH!
Now, if it were me, I’d make a big butt plug out of concrete, ridges and all. 100 feet long, 25 feet in diameter at the top, tapering to a point, with a big eyelet at the top. And, then I’d get those engineers to line up and bend over, and, drop that sucker right in the hole. The rising oil, will be diverted around the cone shape, making it easier to maneuver over the leak, and the weight will keep it in place. A box?
IXTOC I – Bahia de Campeche, Mexico
The U.S. government had two months to prepare for the expected impact of the IXTOC I oil on the Texas shoreline. During this time the government realized the importance of coastline mapping in regards to oil sensitivity. This led to a mapping project which resulted in the first Environmental Sensitivity Index (ESI).
[Shallow water depth 150 ft., drilling depth 2 mi. - the burning platform collapsed into the wellhead area hindering any immediate attempts to control the blowout (BOP). - Ouis]
Excellent diary that is highly recommended.
Obama’s reliance on Int. Secretary Salazar is troubling, Seymour, but remember that Obama is also the guy who picked Salazar in the first place and when that choice was made, many environmental groups were upset.
The WaPo. is reporting (see my diary and responses to it, “Barack Obama Top Cash Recipient of BP Money in 2008″ here at FDL) that the Interior Dept. (headed by Ken Salazar) gave BP a waiver of an environmental impact study for the drilling platform that developed the leak.
Juliet Eilperin writes in her “U.S. exempted BP’s Gulf of Mexico Drilling From Environmental Impact Study”:
So now Obama is going to have Salazar investigate what happened? That’s guaranteed to be a whitewash. The sad fact of the matter is that this oil leak would never have happened had Obama not changed the country’s off shore drilling policy. Not only did Obama flip flop on his campaign promises, he altered 27 years of government policy. Just 18 days before the blow-out, Obama was telling the nation how safe oil drilling off shore is nowadays (see video clip shown on Jon Stewart show recently). Note too that Obama was the biggest recipient of BP money in 2008.
Hey Joe, hold the phone. My reliable sources on the street tell me that undercover BP operators dressed in latex rubber suits with matching balaclavas were spotted last night nosing around shops in the Castro Street area of San Francisco asking questions regarding the whereabouts of a suspected terrorist called “Mom, the Mother Of All Buttplugs, Blessed Be Her Name.”
Thanks so much for the reply and the links. Your link to the 1981 Ambio article (you called it Ixtoc I) was particularly helpful because it contained a map showing the location of the spill (very near the Mexican coast of Campeche, but for those of us who are geographically challenged, the Yucatan Peninsula might be a better known location).
Unfortunately, your specific references were old (1979, 1981) or general info (which I still appreciate! — but it doesn’t address my question). Thirty years later what is the state of the environment in the area of that spill? And what happened to the oil that was spilled there specifically (i.e., how much was removed, how much remained, where is it now)?
I also appreciate lokywoky’s response at 27, but oil balls rolling up on the beach still don’t help me understand the impact of the Ixtoc spill on the benthic and pelagic community structure or the short and long term economic effects on the fisheries affected.
I wonder what long term monitoring (if any) followed the Ixtoc spill and what we might learn from it to help us better cope with the current disaster.
Had the same idea mr banana but with a slight mod. in the tip, place a few shaped charges. after the things in place and the flow rate has been reduced significantly, release them shaped charges. Let em go down a thousand feet and detonate. Collapse in the well, several thousand feet of it.
If they bring the Navy UDT boys in, I bet they could even play the charges out, each one separated by a thousand feet or so. Use enough of them, Collapse the entire casing, all 25,000 feet of it.
(but BP doesn’t want to do that, the roughnecks are saying on their message boards that BP needs to cap it, reclaim it so as to continue using the well)
A nuclear bomb would not be needed.
Seymour,
I notice how you like to quote people and then leave a whitty little comment after. I also see a reader or two commenting on your “great reporting” That’s interesting.
Keep up the good work, tough guy.
My Bold. It’s not a surprise, but I’m still pissed.
The Motherfuckers in the Whitehouse are gaming the spill.
IXTOC ecological
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Compounded by the collision of the Burmah Agate near Galveston Bay. Google for IXTOC ecological and you will find many studies. One document is available as a report on impact of Ixtoc and Burmah Agate oil spill: Assessment pollutant inputs to the marine environment (pdf).