I have been thinking a lot about the office of President of the United States lately. There are a lot of folks in the very diverse coalition that elected our current president who have found various reasons to be disappointed with President Obama’s performance in the first eight months of his term of office. I can say I am not happy about the failure to empower a Special Prosecutor to fully investigate the criminal Bush Administrations apparent state sponsored torture program, but is this completely fair? After all the office of President is not really intended to be that powerful, has some of this disappointment come from a misunderstanding of the nature of the office?
If you look at the Presidency from the point of view of the Constitution, it really is not a powerful office except in terms of what it prevents. It is really and primarily a check on the powers of other areas of our government and military. The president proposes no legislation, none. He can only do one of two things with a piece of legislation; he can sign it and make it law, or he can veto it. This is intended to be the final check to prevent the Congress from making a big mistake. They can override a veto, it is true, but when a veto happens it requires a reexamination of the bill by both Houses and a two thirds majority in each in order to overrule the President.
It is true the President is the Commander and Chief of the military forces, as the criminal Bush Administration made a big deal of during their lawless reign, but here again the Presidents intended role is that of a check, this time on the military. The Framers were very concerned about the use of military power to control the political process. They had seen first hand in England and the Colonies what that would look like and they felt there needed to be a check on the power of the military. By putting the decision making power in one office, that of the Presidency, they made someone not of the military accountable. Even here the President needs the approval of Congress to start military action, by a declaration of war, or some other legislation allowing him or her to wage war.
The President is the head of the Executive branch of government and so has many departments under him, yet again, this is really intended as a check position rather than one of real power. The President appoints the leadership of these departments, but he is not really supposed to be involved in the day to day running of them. As an example, the Attorney General, not the President, is the only person that appoints a Special Prosecutor. The President can give his opinion, but he is really only able to do one thing if the AG does something he does not like, which is to require his resignation and appoint a new AG. Even that would not prevent the moving forward of a Special Prosecutor who has been appointed. This is the proper role of the President, to be the person who makes the Executive branch accountable and keep if running smoothly.
It is not particularly surprising we don’t really view the presidency this way. Since the Nixon Administration we have seen more and more Republican Administrations misusing the powers of the Presidency all in pursuit of the spurious and completely unconstitutional idea of the “Unitary Executive”. It is the idea which President Nixon so famously detailed in his interviews with David Frost, basically “If the president does it, it is not illegal”. We have seen this in the Reagan Administration when they traded arms for cash to fund the Contras in Nicaragua against the specific legislation of the Congress.
We have been witness to eight years of the lawless behavior of the criminal Bush Administration who have filled the Executive Branch with partisans and used its offices from the Department of the Interior to the Department of Justice to help more and more Republicans get elected. We have seen the Office of the President stick it nose into every part of the Federal Government to help reward their friends and punish their opponents. We have seen them break US surveillance laws, set up extra-legal prisons and torture detainees. All of this was done through either Executive Order or with their willing accomplices in the Congress, but it came from a misunderstanding of the role of the President and a willingness to misuse those powers.
All of this leaves us in a difficult place. We have been taught, for many of us our entire adult lives, the office of the President has sweeping powers which can be exercised at will, but this is not really the case. It makes us feel as though our current President should be doing more, sweeping aside the opposition and putting things right according to the way we see things. This is part of what the hard-core Right fears so much about President Obama; they think he actually has the powers President Bush appropriated and misused. In the hands of someone they inherently distrust and to some level fear, this is a very scary idea indeed.
Those of us on the Left who are frustrated and disappointed by the President have a bit of a problem. Do we really want President Obama to act in a autocratic fashion like the lawless Bush Administration? There is no doubt major changes could be forced through in this manner, but there is a cost which I think is too high to pay. Namely it is the cost of making the kind of Unitary Executive of the criminal Bush Administration the de facto way all presidents will be able to reign. This is a dangerous precedent to confirm for our Republic.
It is only through complete overreach and not a small element of luck that the plans for the Bush Administration backfired on them. If they had limited themselves to Afghanistan instead of going to Iraq, if they had not have those eight US Attorneys who believed in the law over politics, if they had just bitten their tongue about Joe Wilson’s article discrediting the Yellow Cake purchase statement in the State of the Union, if the warrantless wiretapping had not been so overblown that whistleblowers felt they had to come forward, then they might been able to use their misappropriated powers to install a permanent Republican Majority. It is because of their overreach they failed, but who is to say a future Republican could not learn from their mistakes, if this style of Presidency becomes the norm?
On the whole the I think it is better to have a President who is primarily a check and balance than one who can on his or her own hook take the nation in directions which we don’t want to go. If we have this kind of President then we are at the mercy of the least stable of the people we elect.
So, where does that leave those of us who want change for the better? It seems it leaves us with the Congress, who are much tougher to get going in one direction than a single President. This is not to say it is not important that we on the Left keep elected Democratic Presidents, they are, at the very least, less likely to abuse the powers the President does have and more (though not a lot more) amiable to making the limits of Presidential power clear. Still it is not very smart to focus our ire and efforts on the so strongly on the President, we have to make it clear to the Congress that abdication of their responsibilities to the President is not acceptable, that failure to engage in their oversight role is grounds for replacement and that pretending their job is solely to do what it takes to get reelected is grounds for a strong primary challenge.
Markos of Daily Kos has as the purpose of his site to “elect more and better Democrats”. We have done a good job of electing more; it is time to make them better. We do not have to be as rigid in our enforcement of discipline as the Republicans, but we can certainly make it clear they have to earn the right to represent the people with regular primary challenges.
It sucks to be the reasonable ones, the balanced ones, the temperate and long term thinkers. There are less wins when you take the long course, there is often a level of despair as the passion we feel today gets worn away by the “slow boring of hard boards” that is the political system our Founders gave us, but in the end we do more than just achieve our goals, we do the hard work of preserving the idea of a nation of laws not men we have been born too.
In the end if you want to make things work in this Republic, you have to work the system as it was intended. It is far to easy to do what the Republicans have done and short circuit the system, the problem is that way lies tyranny of one kind or another. The basic idea of our system of government and law is one of balance; we must not trade short term achievements, no matter how well intentioned, for long term imbalance. This is one of the myriad ways that democracies die, and it is one we must avoid.
I am not going to argue that you should not be disappointed with our President, you are always going to be disappointed to one level or another will all politicians. It is just when you are calling for major change from that office, be aware of the limitations of presidential power. Calling for something which can only be achieved through abuse of presidential power is not a good long term strategy either for achieving your gains or for our nation.
The floor is yours.



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Really excellent piece, Bill. I’m still thinking through it, but a thought occurs.
Perhaps some of the disappointment is coming from Obama’s refusal to define the Presidency one way or the other. As you note, Bush continued to expand the executive’s “toolbox,” building on other Presidents. Yet Obama doesn’t seem willing to either a) reject the Unitary Executive, or b) use those expanded powers to fulfill his campaign promises.
That refusal to choose puts him in an uneasy place, and I would suspect makes liberals nervous, confused, or angry.
Great point! I wish I had made it!
One thing I want to be clear on, I am not in any way saying we should give the President a pass on doing what he can for the issues we care about. I just want us to do it the right way and not encourage him to do it the wrong way.
We also have to hold the Congresses feet to the fire, they enabled the criminal President Bush, and they are falling down for our agenda now. Without them doing the right thing, the President does not have very many good choices for doing it.
I’d agree with that. I’d also like to re-explore the idea of pressuring the President. We’re so used to Bush being an immovable wall, immune to public pressure, that we forget maybe things are different this time around. I think there is a lot of space to explore pressuring Obama in a friendly or not-so-friendly way without just giving up.
Definitely the president needs to be pressured, but take closing Guantanamo as an example. Obama wants it, put a timetable on it his first full day in office – but both my liberal WA state Dem senators have voted against funds to close it, against transfer of detainees to stand criminal trial here in the U.S. It is we who have to put the pressure on them – the 535 lawmakers who get reelected almost on auto-pilot, without primary challengers, without being accountable to us. My bad, I have to wait until Monday to check how my congressman voted and intends to vote on closing Guantanamo – which takes funds and detainee transfers, duh.
The power of the purse is Congress’. The Senate is where all good bills go to die or get deformed. Senators have the best job of all. Six-year terms, campaigning only state-wide. Like Baucus, they make liberal promises (public option), then proceed to delay so in five years they can promise it again! Representatives have to campaign every two years, but only in a district – and district lines are drawn to minimize civic participation with arbitrary borders that often divide regions and communities.
Our POTUS has just a four-year term, has to campaign in 50 states, beginning just two years into his/her term. Yet he has to rely on those senators and reps to pass laws that make entire states happy to reelect him as POTUS.
All in congress must contribute tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to their parties’ senate and house campaign committees, to win favor and influential committee memberships. Look at the Senate Finance Committee – more conservative than Dems overall. Look at Appropriations in the House. Do we know if our senators or reps sit on those? What committees they are on?
The POTUS can ask for a law to be passed, but congress has to provide the funds to pass and then enforce it. Responsibility for health care, education, falls to the states primarily, where budgets must be balanced., setting off state-interests-wars within a party, on top of within committees, to the detriment of all of us who have to choose where to live according to where we can afford to live and how near we can manage to stay to loved ones. Throw in the fundraising prowess of governors and it gets really ugly.
Obama asked us to stay engaged, but not just in the 24-hr news/blog cycle. On the ground, in our states, with all our state races. States love federal funds but only for state programs. There is a ton of corruption within each of our states in how those funds get used. Let’s not win a battle but lose the war. It’s the states’ governors and senators and reps in D.C. who most manipulate the system, strike deals with innumerable politicians, contractors and corporations. It’s the states that determine the quality of our health care, our education, whether we fund prisons more than schools, or military actions when war isn’t even declared, or clean energy instead of a technologically-bloated military and fossil fuels.
This post ignores some 220 years of growth in the federal government and Constitutional history. As government has expanded so have the powers of the President. So the President is unimaginable far from a minor functionary and check on the other branches. This is completely unremarkable. The Supreme Court started out far weaker than the Executive but like it as also grown in power over time.
However the weakness of Congress, the deference and stacking of the courts, and a strong Executive have led to the construction of an extra-Constitutional imperial Presidency. Even if we did not have an imperial President, the office would still be the most powerful in our government.
All of this is totally irrelevant to Obama’s failure to bring the change he campaigned on. The problem is not that Obama is constrained. It is rather that he is doing exactly what he wants. Unfortunately, for ordinary Americans what Obama wants has nothing to do with them at all.
well i disagree i think you misundrestood, he was not stating that obama is constarained but that in some ways he should be constrained or the position of president should be constrained. “and obama is doing what he wants” well that maybe true if obama belives the same in that the president should not over reach like a “unitary exectutive”.
I concur, and so do a lot of others.
Frank Rich has another of his fabulous columns today on the Obama presidency and the influence of lobbyists.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10…..4rich.html
Even more interesting are the comments: a 500+ item litany of disappointment and disgust from those who originally supported Obama. [Mine’s @ 116.] Some politico in the White House ought to be reading this and getting concerned.
Particular personality aside the president is only as powerful or impotent as old media and congress allows him to be. George W. Bush and Barack Obama who is routinely put on the same level as the likes of Ben Bernanke, Stanley McCrystal and Max Baucus are perfect examples of the extremes. It was congress, directly assisted by the media that allowed the Bush administration to run amok and congress, egged on by old media, that has held up this president. And every representative and senator is speeding to a reckoning with the American people for it.
But having said that, the president could have scoffed at cries of “socialism” and defended public health insurance instead of trapping himself trying to explain how helping millions of Americans turned into guaranteeing trillions in profits to the private insurance and drug companies that created the problem. He could have demanded strict rules of repayment for the big banks before paying their ransom and if they refused announced to the world that this particular bank would rather burn down the economy than promise to payback a loan. He could take on the directors and major shareholders on one industry and then another demanding reform and putting them on the spot to explain why their profits are more important than American economic security. That is the power of the president, to meet the lords of the earth above their level and on our side. Not browbeat progressive politicians and insult singers that are also overenthusiastic fans.
If the greatest public speaker of our time has not the will or the skill to use the most powerful tool for communication in the world, the bully pulpit, it is not unfair to say that is an awful shame.
President Obama is trying to clean up multiple disasters left behind by the Republicans. I think he’s doing very well. Of course there are always things we wish would happen faster or more to our liking.
Agree.
Since the end of WWII, the rise of teevee networks, and the relative simplicity of covering ‘the Pres’ over covering all the many members of Congress, we’ve gone amuck.
We have not been well informed about our Congresscritters, and for the most part have not held them accountable (see also: Cunningham, Duke; Abramoff, Jack…).
It’s so much simpler in a busy, confusing world to focus on ONE man, ONE family. And leadership makes a huge difference in how people feel and what they are willing to do. But the Celebrity President, the rise of the Glamorized Presidency has been a terrible problem for the U.S.
The VP has had far too little scrutiny or coverage, and we now know what a disaster that produces.
Meanwhile, a well-informed, savvy member of Congress can get a lot done. But we tend not to know who they are, or else get caught up in ‘inside baseball’.
Whatever innovations and new economic possibilities come out of Congress will come from Boxer and her group, not out of Inhofe, Coburn, or those who are basically agreeable to outdated corporations.
There are lots of interesting stories about Congress that we never really hear, yet many of them over the long term are far more important than a presidential act.
Consider that Grassley has been in the Senate about 30 years; ditto quite a few others (like Hatch). That’s a lot of accumulated power of the purse, of favors, and of networking. Arguably, that’s a different type of power (less public) than Presidential power, but over a period of years it’s extremely critical to outcomes.
“greatest public speaker of our time”……Being such a speaker is basically morally neutral, not much diffferent than being the greatest stand-up comedian of our time.
Obama is a performer when he speaks, a high quality performer, but great speeches do not have any relationship to great acts, they are separate entities.
some can speak and some can act , we should not expect one to do it all , i think that is the problem with some religions and getting religion on a president to the point where we make them into a king or worse a god! we need to teach ourselves and think freely and then act!
I do not accept that framing, which is an oversimplification of the available choices. I am not angry at Obama for not being an autocrat, I am angry at Obama for (among other things) being such a piss-poor advocate for the American people.
This is not true.
Proposing legislation is not autocratic, nor is making the case for legislation. The Unitary Executive issue largely revolves around the ability of the executive branch to refuse to accept the limitations of legislation. One can reject that position without suggesting that the president lacks power or is just a glorified clerk.
I’m all for emphasizing the important role of Congress in all this. It’s good to highlight their role. But in promoting congressional accountability we don’t need to undermine presidential accountability. The system is designed to promote accountability for both.
Just finished reading the book JFK and the Unspeakable. It is a fascinating book that addresses the assassination, but more importantly puts in some sort of context as what happened behind closed doors in a myriad of meetings with all his departments. It goes into great detail on how most of the people reporting to him had their own agendas, and he was constantly trying to pull things back on his track. In fact it describes how he began secret direct talks with Khrushchev to end the cold war and nuclear proliferation behind the backs of the CIA and his Joint Chiefs of staff.
It made me realize how all alone the president is and if he has not seeded the government infrastructure with people who see things his way, no much can be accomplished. I think this is where Cheney figured out how government can really be controlled, by having your people everywhere to ensure your agenda is followed.
I highly recommend the book. It has not received much attention because it does deviate from the main stream conventional wisdom and can be categorized my many as “conspiracy theory”, which in the mass psychology of our day is a subliminal message “don’t look here”. I am wired differently I guess, when somebody doesn’t want me to look, I usually do.
I think the author James Douglass would be a great guest on FDL. There are many lessons to learn from JFK.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Bill Egnor and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
“Those of us on the left who are frustrated and disappointed by the President have a bit of a problem. Do we really want President Obama to act in an autocratic fashion like the lawless Bush administration.”
Of course we don’t want Obama to act as an autocrat, we simply want him to use the political powers of his office to influence his faction in Congress to carry out the mandate of the people that Obama actually forged on the campaign trail in 2008. Unlike many on the mainstream “left”, I am not concerned about Obama’s unwillingness to divert political capital and attention from the core political priorities of the economy, healthcare and the wars in Iraq to battle issues that the courts and the Congress should be doin’ with regard to torture and political corruption. My concern is that Obama is not using the real inherent powers of the Presidency to solve problems and restore the Constitutional structures for advancing the common good. And THAT, Brother Bill, is why people on the left should be unhappy and impatient with this President. He has not fallen into the tarpit of political corruption issues created by the Bush administration because the Constitutional institutions of the courts and Comngress must, in the end, deal with those and that is good. He has NOT however used the very real power that the Founders invisioned for the President to carry out the will of the people as expressed in their election of him. He still has the power to do it in healthcare and the economy but time is runnin out.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, NOBODY FIGHTS THIS ONE FOR US!!
No, we don’t expect too much from Barack Obama. We expect him to keep his promises and to consider more interests than merely those of the haves and have mores. His predecessor’s party resoundingly lost its control of the presidency and both houses of Congress in the expectation that he would do that.
Mr. Obama does what he chooses, and he works very hard at it, has done since Columbia and Harvard. His choice is to support continuity he can bank on rather than change we can believe in. If we can’t have necessary change, he will lose the support he was banking on to maintain that continuity and his hold on office.
His dramatic aversion to drama and conflict may be how he emotionally distances himself from the leaders of the civil rights movement and from the history of turmoil that created a society that allowed him to be president instead of working on a chain gang or preaching in a southern pulpit.
In comforting us all, he has chosen to use the freedoms hard won by his predecessors in order to prove that he’s not a reformer or rocker of boats. I guess that means he can’t row one either; he’d rather stay put, in the middle of whatever forces he finds displayed around him.
Citizen earlofhuntingdon:
The test of whether or not Obama keeps his promises and considers more than the interests of the haves and the have mores comes this week on healthcare and he can’t hide behind Rahm or congressional leaders. The decision on whether or not he sides with the people on healthcare and the public option will be made in public this week and I still think he’s too smart to blow it.
I’d be willing to bet he finds a way to straddle that fence. I’ve seen no evidence that he has the guts to stand up to corporate interests or their congressional partners.
Citizen ratfood:
He has no place to hide and he knows it…if he blows it he leaves behind an organized and energized political base that will be there long after he’s run out with the fascists. The congressional leadership of the Democratic Party knows that what I said is true and they know that if they are gunna have a future they can’t be used to cover Obama’s ass on this.
It seems like there has been a recent shift in the stance of many Dems who were publicly saying the PO was dead not very long ago. I think they are starting to get the message that all the corporate cash in the world won’t help if nobody votes for them. I hope that is the case.
Citizen ratfood:
My Gampa Ole used to tell me that “if yer gunna walk down the middle of the road then yer gunna eventually get hit by trucks goin both ways” and I bet Obama knows it or has found out that unltimately he can’t triangulate 70% of the people outta this one.
actually if you stand in the middle exactly but face left you will narrowly avoid being hit from either side , WHICH IS WHY THE LEFT NEEDS TO STOP TRAFIC!
Here are some interesting quotes from an article that provides some insights into what Obama has been doing behind the scenes regarding the Public Option:
Maybe there’s some hope for the Public Option provided we keep hammering away at it to make sure it is as strong as possible. I think all elected Democrats will go down with this ship if it ends up being strictly a giveaway to insurance companies. I hope they all understand that.
As for calling corporatist Democrats moderate, we need to put a stop to that. There isn’t anything moderate about selling out the lives of your constituents to profiteers. How about calling them hardhearted Democrats or irresponsible Democrats?
- Tom
Go, Durbin, go! Right on!
Thanks, Tom, for putting that together.
So maybe he is working it behind the scenes to get the public option.
“He” meaning Durbin, or “He” meaning the President?
Meanwhile, 8 GI’s killed yesterday.
Yep, that sucks.
Citizen Raven:
Thanks for the wakeup Brother Raven…I try to remind myself and everyone else of the kids hunkered down in the desert and mountains of the wars of our making everytime I post but sometimes I need a kick in the ass to keep my priorities straight.
I’m with egregious on this. While there are things that I wish he would have tackled immediately, like DADT, and that he had handled the introduction and framing of the health care debate differently, I think it is way too early make judgment calls. The Corporate media is his main public enemy as seen from my little corner of world. They are the ones trying to tear down and weaken his presidency because of their fear of what he will do to their wealthy bosses and the rest of the one percenters. Obama never was a lefty like we over here would like him to be. He is a Centrist. But he is our centrist – we need to help keep the agenda alive, while contiuing the debate amongst ourselves. We are frustrated with the process of governing right now. Take a look at what Rachel told David Gregory after MTP on whether she would make a good Congress Critter. Her answer was a resounding NO. I imagine most of us would not be able to handle the sausage making either.
I too agree that President Obama was left exponential problems. I do however believe that a special counsel should be empowered to prosecute the crimes.
“I can say I am not happy about the failure to empower a Special Prosecutor to fully investigate the criminal Bush Administrations apparent state sponsored torture program,”
If one expects the President to be a good manager, then this post makes sense.
If one expects the President to be a leader, then this post does not make sense.
I’m in the leader camp. What I am seeing is that Obama is managing through an agenda and doing exactly what he wants. This is against the frame of his candidacy, where he said may things he would actually lead on.
And an observation about leadership; sometimes it does indeed appear to be autocratic. Leadership certainly is autocratic when it is not accompanied by a widely accepted set of goals. That would be the Bush regime.
But with the majority of Americans agreeing with the promises/goals of the campaign, I do not think it would be autocratic to actually legislate, litigate and otherwise execute against those goals.
Good point on leadership vs managing.
This is a good point, though I’m not sure I agree with the definition of autocratic. Autocratic is a tactic, a method, a style, not a policy prescription. So Obama can lead in the interest of the American people autocratically if he chose.
I don’t mean to define an autocrat, but rather to give one, among many possible examples.
For sure, I think when one views real true leadership, some will say it’s autocratic, others will not. And part of that is one’s political or historical viewpoint.
For instance, FDR. Some would say he was an autocrat, and some would not. The fact is though, he exhibited much, and much wanted, leadership.
afterall do we ellect a president or a KING!,
We elected a candidate who promised to advocate for the common good, not the preservation and maximization of profits for private insurance companies and other special interests.
do you think one man can stand against that kind of perversion?
Stand alone? No, but he was elected to lead which requires him to make a stand.
Exactly! I don’t know what happened between the day he was elected and the day he took office, but he’s definitely veered from his statements on the campaign trail. I guess honesty and politics is another oxymoron.
RIGHT ON! I just sent Grayson a letter, which reads in part:
And:
As for appointing a Special Prosecutor, the critique has been that the White House has continually said it did not want an investigation, or said things that were inconsistent with having an investigation (we should move forward not look backward.) The CW is that Holder is more willing than Obama to have a full investigation, but that he is feeling constrained by the White House. Again, that would be an issue of Obama interfering in matters not in his power – not the reverse.
The problem for me is that candidate Obama said one thing, while President Obama has done quite the opposite. I will never support any POTUS who protects and defends corporations and too big to fail business over the lives of Americans who have less and less each day.
The powers granted he President in Article II of the Constitution are limited.
The modern visual media, television, is not capable of covering Congress. The visuals just aren’t there.Most folks get their news from television. As such, over several generations we have come think the power in this constitutional republic lies with the President.
The real power is granted in Article I of the Constitution to Congress, but the anti-democratic construct of the Senate makes it damn difficult to enact change.
In short, we have system designed to thwart change.
Bill,
I think you identified something very important when you wrote:
There is some quality inherent in the nature of individuals or groups who want to abuse power or who want to take too much power that they overreach, stumble, and fall.
That’s not only true of the Bush administration or, for that matter, only of Presidents of the United States.
Ancient historians like Herodotus and Thucydides among the Greeks and Livy among the Romans identified something similar.
Livy wrote about the combination between skill and luck (which often turns bad, eventually) in the role of rising to power and keeping it.
I’ve been saying this for a while. Most Americans believe they elect a King. Likewise, most Americans think government is not We the People, but a separate entity, ergo their problem with “government-controlled” health care.
I have to respectfully disagree, I didn’t vote to elect a king. I voted to elect a man who said he stood for things that he can’t seem to support now that he is the POTUS.
So, we should be relieved Obama is not more authoritarian and somewhat less inclined to act outside the Constitution? That isn’t enough.
It’s a start. But, no. It’s not enough.
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SORRY. Read too quickly. I’d like to change my answer to: I AGREE WITH YOU!
yes we should and no it is not enough we should do more ,spend less on trivial things and more on people power, small donations, letters, protests, peacefull civil disobedience, primary challenges, alternitive media, small buisness, vote with your dollars no matter how small they may be.
Kee-rimeney, the nostalgia is getting strong.
Toward the latter part of the Carter Administration we saw s*tloads of this sort of thing. “The Presidency is just too hard for one man to manage, so we ought to give him a pass on this.” Tough nails. You asked for the job, and you taken the money.
The President is the Executive. Do you even know what that means? –no, clearly you don’t. It means it’s the President’s job to supervise the execution of the laws. All the bureaucrats, all the law enforcement officers, all the “compliance officers” work for the President. The Congress passes laws; it’s the President’s job to see to it that they are enforced. Any law that’s passed is an additional burden on the President to manage its being put into action.
If you want laws enforcing a “right to health care”, if you want laws enforcing “regulation of the financial industry”, if you want huge stacks of laws intruding into every single aspect of everyday life for every American — and clearly you want all those things — it is the President’s job to see to it that the language in the laws becomes reality for those subject to them. That’s his job. That’s what he does. That’s why the position exists. He can’t skate out on it, or you’ve got nothing but laser-printed wastepaper.
Clearly this President isn’t up to the job, but you can’t get him through by making excuses. He wanted the job, he’s got the job, and he has to perform.
Regards,
Ric
wow, what a supine bunch of commentators.
If Obama did not believe in power residing with the Oligarchs, he’d be welcoming their hatred of him with fierce oratory. If he stepped out and asked us to march in solidarity with Universal Healthcare, – we’d march and we’d get it.
He’s got power enough, Bill. He’s just not into the peasants, so much as he’s into the Banksters and their money churning social welfare Industries.
Well, ‘fuckno,’ I’d say that Obama is into peasants like you and me, much more so than were Bush, Rove, Cheney and Libby
oh yes, – the center got moved 99 yards to the right , and Obama will get you 2 yards back, – whopeee.
Do we expect too much from the President? Um, well… When Frank Rich can put something like this
into his Sunday column I would answer a resounding YES. I guess it’s President Obama’s fault that I’ve got weeds in my flower beds too…
And, according to Frank Rich, what was that lesson?
I’m not sure I’d call that a failure. Most cities that host the Olympics go terribly into debt, don’t they?
This summarizes the disappointments pretty succinctly (and humorously).
BULLY PULPIT! Geezus people – leadership. Defining a vision of governance. Articulate policy goals. Draw a line in the sand so that the populace can make an informed deciscion about things that matter to them, their families, their communittees. Life, liberty, pursuit of happpiness. . . Is it really so hard to remember that government exists to serve interests, and the always open questions is who’s interest – the peoples, or the powerful?
Maybe there’s an interesting comparison between what Obama did re the Olympics and what he is doing re the public option.
He stuck his neck out to represent our country. The stakes were low, and he lost little for the effort.
But if he does what Clinton did, sticks his neck out publicly for something like the public option, DRAWS A LINE IN THE SAND THE WAY CLINTON DID, and fails, his presidency will be over. He’d end up with no political capital left no matter how good the rest of the bill he gets is. And we’d watch 6 years of Republicans abusing their power to beat him up the way Newt & co abused their power to beat up Clinton.
Book Salon up at the Mothership with Rana Husseini’s Murder In The Name Of Honor hosted by Joanne Payton
This is a post whose stupidity is exceeded only by its longwindedness.
No. You have to work the system as it is, not as it was wished to be two centuries ago. It is regrettable but necessary to do what the Republicans have done because 1) It is the only possible way to deter them from doing it again and again and b) It is the only way to undo what their tyranny has wrought. Your namby-pamby idealism ensures that the ratchet only turns one way.
Thanks!!
You might not be much interested in political philosophy, but evaluating the underlying premises of what authority is and how it should be used is EXTREMELY important.
The founders knew the importance of such underlying premises and incorporated principles of governance in the system they created. That’s why it’s worked so well for so long.
“That’s why it’s worked so well for so long.”
for the 1% at the top, – yes indeed.
My grandparents all came to this country separately as children in the decades just before and just after 1900.
Not one of them had much more than the cloths on their backs.
In 3 generations, less even, there were and are a dentist, a lawyer, an accountant who is a partner at his firm, and me (I’ll just say I have an advanced degree).
Not one of us went to a prestigious university, but we’ve all done well.
You might not appreciate it, but the fact is that there is a fair degree of order in our society and there is opportunity.
My thing – one of the reason why I’m here – is that I know how fragile these are and that they must be maintained through constant diligence and I believe strongly that a society that claims to be based on the idea of opportunity for all has a moral obligation to provide health care to all its members no less than it has a moral obligation to provide a good education.
Without being free from worry over one’s health when one gets sick or injured and without having a good education, there is no true equality of opportunity to succeed or fail in life.
As for your assertion that the system only works for the 1% at the top, that’s really only becoming truer – and a real problem – in the last 20-30 years, and we do need to reverse the problems (much of which have been created by the top 1%, as you put it) before we lose what we have – another reason why I’m here.
Who knows how many comments there would be if they left them open. I managed to get mine in at 10 pm last night. When I checked in at 6 am this morning, comments were closed.
He inherited the only country on the face of the earth that was pro-torture.
His obligation on day one was to stop torture, arrest and detain those involved in torture and make sure we adhere to the Convention Against Torture by advocating for the victims. Sure it would be radical but so is support of torture. The Republicans would have been destroyed as they should have been for misleading the country. Then move forward.
The disconnect is between Obama the candidate and Obama the president.
Obama the candidate was visionary (thought vague) and even radical in his reaction to the previous administration. He made a lot of campaign promises that polls how are still popular. In addition, Obama the candidate promised to resist becoming ensconced in the WH bubble.
Obama the president has been MIA. He is coming across as an ineffectual leader of a party that won an overwhelming mandate for change across the board.
While one can argue that change only comes slowly and that a lot of change has already been achieved, given the time frame, it doesn’t feel that way to a whole lot of people. And in politics, that’s what counts.
Hi Bill, I agree with the views of Hugh and ProgressiveObserver on this issue. Specifically, I don’t think we’ve been expecting too much from the President, and I do think he’s been letting us down. You base your contrary view on the idea that written constitution makes the Presidency a relatively weak office, and that, under it, it is not the President’s job to legislate or to take the lead in helping us to meet America’s social, economic other problems. I think this is a very anachronistic interpretation of the constitution which the United States has left far behind long ago. Strong presidents established early on that they had considerable influence over legislation. Names that come to mind here are Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, and of course, Abraham Lincoln. But certainly by the early 20th century and Teddy Roosevelt’s presidency it had been established that the President very powerful legislative functions because of two factors.
First, the President is the only official elected by all the people, not quite directly because of the electoral college, but pretty close to directly. And second, because the President is the leader of his political party, and party influence transcends the executive and legislative branches and gives the President, the actual, if the formal power, to introduce legislation into the Congress. How that happens is that the Executive branch often formulates bills or at the outlines of bills and then has some friendly Congressperson or Senator introduce them into their branch of Congress. This has been going on for a long time. It is the way things have been done in Washington, and it makes the President the most important legislative leader, more important than the Speaker of the House, and more important than the Majority leader of the Senate, in actuality, if not in name.
None of this goes beyond the constitution or is prohibited by it. Instead, it is the way actual political practice has evolved under the constitution. It is, if you will, part of the unwritten constitution of the United States. For this to change Presidents would have to refuse to try to lead the Congress in the direction they favor. But, frankly, how can Presidents do that, when as candidates they run for the Presidency, and ask for support, by promising many things to the pblic, promises they cannot begin to deliver upon except through vigorous leadership of the legislature exercised through addresses to the public, the Congress, press conferences, interviews, bills introduced into the legislature through friendly proxies, etc during which the President lays out what he wants Congress to do, i.e. what he wants them to legislate.
I’ve pointed out that the legislative function of the President is not new, but goes back to the beginning of the Republic and has been a dominant feature of the Presidency since the early 20th century at least. That means that this function has nothing to do with the Bush Administration and its over-stepping of executive authority. While I agree with you that the Bush Administration did that, and many of its activities were unconstitutional, its activity had nothing to do with the legislative functions of the Presidency. The over-stepping we’re talking about, instead, had to do with violations of law and the constitution by the Bush Administration. These are violations that need desperately to be pursued with prosecutions and upon conviction punished according to law.
For President Obama to be the strong progressive leader we thought we were electing, he doesn’t have to violate the constitution at all. All he has to do is to follow the pattern of modern presidents in leading the Congress. For him to refuse to do that, and to turn over major bills to Congress to write, is outrageous. It is to turn over the writing of those bills to lobbyists, and to maximize the chances that the product of Congress will favor the interests and the needs of the American people.
President Obama has disappointed us on so many fronts already that I won’t take the time to list them here. But I will point out that acting differently to support a better stimulus bill, reconstruct our financial system, a better cap-and-trade bill, a better health care insurance reform bill, a better credit card reform act, quicker action on getting accountability for torture and violations of civil liberties, and on restoring and strengthening constitutional safeguards in these areas required none of the arbitrary actions and violations of the constitution we saw during the Bush Administration. All that he needed to do was to act in the traditions of the best Democratic Presidents of the past. The truth is that he is refusing to do that, and instead is acting like a community facilitator who thinks his community is composed of inside the beltway congresspeople, media types, policy analysts, and lobbyists, rather than the American people.
Above you said:
I think this statement is mistaken:
1) We no longer live with the system the founders intended. Instead we live with a system that has evolved so that the United States can live in a world that is vastly different culturally, technologically, socially, economically, and ethically. ‘The system” has evolved since the beginning ti allow us to handle this world. the question is whether it had evolved enough whether it can cope with the huge problems we see and still maintain the freedoms that are so important to it. In any event, we don’t need or want to work the system as it was intended by the founders. Instead we need and want to be able to work the system that has evolved in order to solve those problems. We want, also, to preserve that system, but that doesn’t mean we can or ought to preserve all of it. What we need to preserve is its essential character as a Democracy committed to both majority rule and individual and minority freedoms and rights. But some parts of it, like the folibuster in the Senate, need to go before they destroy us all.
And 2) I agree with you that balance is important, and that short-term achievments should not supercede the fundamentals of our system and the need for long-term balance. But, the problem with this as a general statement is that we have to be really careful about distinguishing what it is fundamental from what is tradition that has outlived its usefulness. Our civil liberties are fundamental. The rule of law and its enforcement si fundamental. But some things that are not fundamental are privatized health insurance, or bipartisanship, or the filibuster, or the seniority system, or the electoral college, or 9 justices on the Supreme Court rather than 15, or the right of the credit card companies to charge whatever interest rates they wants, or the rights of corporations to conduct their own political campaigns in their own economic interests, or many other things. So, the plea for balance cannot be so general. It has to be much more specific.
In particular, in noting that the Bush Administration unbalanced the realtionship between the executive and legislative branches, one has to be specific about the ways in which that was done, and then one has to ask what Obama has done so far to re-balance that. I think the answer is not much as we seen from his insistence on the “state secrets” doctrine.
How hard is it to fight for Medicare for all? It’s there,- ready to be expanded the moment it passes. – It’s really that simple, once you get past the BS.
What would you do if all the private health insurance firms were outlawed and Medicare took over all the customers, but all the care providers walked?
Little problem, eh?
if he can fight for chicago’s olympic bid, he can fight for the public option. and he was sure promising all manner of investigations into torture during the election, but alas, his hands are now tied. LOL
the idea that we’re expecting too much from a cowardly by-stander is laughable. LAUGHABLE.
NO WE EXPECT HIM TO KEEP HIS WORD
1. CLOSE GITMO
2. GET OUT OF IRAQ.
3. QUOTE”I WON’T SIGN ANY HEALTH CARE BILL THAT DOESN’T CONTAIN A PUBLIC OPTION”
4. TURN ERIC HOLDER LOOSE ON THE FOLKS THAT APPROVED TORTURE
AND MOST OF ALL START ACTING LIKE FDR, TRUMAN, AND LBJ AND STOP ACTING LIKE A WEAK KNEED WIMP. KICK SOME DEMOCRATIC ASS LIKE THAT TURN COAT SENATOR BAUCUS
FWIW, you don’t have to yell at us.
Exactly.
I expect that he, at the very least, keep his campaign pledges. He has not! He talked about being a Constitutional Attorney, who “teaches Constitutional Law, and who believes in Constitutional Law.” Well, he is still not obeying the Constitution!!! Af far as I’m concerned, he is just another Bush, and I would NEVER vote for him again, much less work for him or donate to him again! In fact, I plan to work for and donate to someone better we can get to run against him, at this stage in the game!!!!!!
“…we do the hard work of preserving the idea of a “nation of laws not men”…
You may think preserving the idea is the hard work, but the really hard work, the work that provides the factual foundation for that idea, is actually enforcing those laws that we are supposedly a nation of. In particular, enforcing the laws against torture, warrantless wiretapping, etc., that were broken, sometimes openly and admittedly, by the members of the Cheney/Bush administration.
In default of anyone doing so, we may safely conclude that, the well-preserved “idea” to the contrary notwithstanding, we are but a nation of men: some men so politically ruthless as to forgo obeying the laws; other men so politically timid as to forgo enforcing them. In both cases, the men are saying, in effect,”The laws? Feh!”
Congratulations. This is a strong contender for most lame Obama apology I’ve witnessed here, so far.
Sounds like another way to excuse Obama’s abysmal leadership and choices. I do agree on one thing–he’s working hard; it’s just not for us.
This is a good argument against blogging while stoned.
Assumes facts not in evidence.
Are we better off with a president who is a scoundrel and a cheat, or a president who is afraid of a fight?
We thought we voted for one that has neither problem. However, this one could yet prove to be all three.
Obama is a great public speaker but he doesn’t care about people and he so dislikes conflict that he will sacrifice any principle to avoid it.
Here are two out of many examples of his lack of concern for people that I have chosen because there hasn’t been any pressure on him to act, or not to act.
1. He quietly removed from the White House website his position favoring federal support for needle exchanges, an important and inexpensive health program that protects not only the people who use needles from AIDS, hepatitis, and other diseases, but also their sexual partners.
2. He hasn’t taken any action since June when the Office of Special Counsel delivered its report confirming a whistleblower’s claim that if another Katrina hits New Orleans, the levees maintained by the Army Corps of Engineers will again be breached by the rising waters and flood New Orleans because the Corp’s three pumps aren’t powerful enough to get the job done. We’re in the middle of the hurricane season and if another Katrina blows into town, there isn’t going to be enough time to replace the pumps before the storm hits.
In both cases, the money saved is chump change compared to the likely cost of failing to take action. The human cost in pain and suffering is incalculable.
His decisions to abandon single payer, make secret backdoor deals with big PhRMA (and probably with the insurance companies too) to protect the corporations, and his just-a-sliver support for a public option amply demonstrate his reluctance to fight for people.
If there’s one thing I can say about Obama it’s that by disposition and temperament he lacks the right stuff to protect us from the rapacious corporations and their mega rich owners.
I have no respect for him.
Obama and the Chicago Olympics criticism is empty farce. It would have been unusual if Mr. Obama had not lobbied for the US finalist.
Government and corporate presidents advocate for such things daily. What town mayor, state governor or federal or corporate president hasn’t lobbied hard for local investment? States fall over themselves lobbying for a new Asian car factory. Who pillories the losing state governors as wasting time? Governors and mayors pull out all the stops for a shopping mall development or new highway interchange and lavish tax incentives on the winners. Who pillories the ones who lost out? Heads of state in Europe and Asia lavish support on potential investors; they have whole agencies who woo them daily. Only a fraction of potential investors turn into actual ones.
No head of state in the world travels with a more complete,working office and full complement of guards than the President of the United States. Mr. Obama could complete his day’s work in Europe, and traveling to and from, as easily as could the head of Goldman Scratch who had left his castle keep in Manhattan to give a speech in Beijing or Indianapolis.
What’s missing from the criticism is why Chicago – the US – might have lost. Winning such contests is a brutal commercial fight; tens of billions are at stake, as is enormous civic and national pride. The odds of any city winning are tiny. That said, Olympic aspirations may obe tainted – burdened by enormous levels of commercialization, as is true of the American Constitution – but they matter. The US has abused them spectacularly.
We treat foreign visitors as if they’ve just lifted the family silver or given the town daughters untreatable cases of the gift that keeps on giving. Our immigration and visa policies are a nightmare. Our trade policies impoverish many. We wage war on the innocent or sells guns and knives to those that do and expect them to tug their collective forelock and say thank you. Our unregulated financial system just cost us and the rest of the world trillions. But no, I can’t think of a political or economic reason why Chicago might have lost out to Rio or Madrid. Not one.
Thanks EOH, for a really great comment.
At least Teddy Roosevelt dismantled the ”Too Big to Fail” corporations.
At least FDR fought the right-wing and advocated for the right to a job, decent housing and healthcare.
At least LBJ twisted arms in the Senate to get Medicare & the war on poverty.
At least Nixon had the audacity to go to communist China.
At least Bill Clinton talked about the poor bc he was raised in a trailer park.
No. We don’t. I have been shopping around for a site with less Obama apologists than DKos, so this article is quite disappointing. He is acting weak and it’s most likely intentional. Imperialist neoliberalism prevails. (Sadly, Europe may soon be sharing a similar problem if Tony Blair, king of Europe’s neololiberals, is elected to the EU presidency.) The mainstream is starting to get it as well. Did you see the most recent SNL opener? It was about all the major promises the president made during his campaign and has failed to accomplish. It is no longer “fringe” to be, rightfully, critical and skeptical about this president. The fringe will soon be the relentless apologists.
If Obama knew he couldn’t change the things he promised to change, he shouldn’t have made those things the central part of his campaign. His campaign should have been focused on bipartisanship. It would have failed, but at least have been honest. Obama the “candidate” was a marketing triumph and was rewarded and praised by the sick marketing industry. He coopted aspects of hip youth culture, ran on a vague enough platform that people saw in it what they wanted, and presented himself as a genius of a hero, who understood the public perfectly and would save the day. It was all BS. I am not sure Obama realizes this was deceptive, but it’s clear he sees the problems and solutions like other neoliberals, Clinton and Tony Blair.
I do not blame Obama for not having the power to do what he promised. I blame him for not trying, for never meaning to try.
I blame him for both, and (do and did) the media for the former, in spades, because, as eoh points out @ 91 (and oldgold earlier in the thread), the national media – TV media in particular – pretends that presidents in our system have that power, despite the irrefutable fact that, under our system, unless and until the Constitution is amended, and as Bill’s post rightly explains, they do not. Unless, of course, the subversion of Congress to the Executive Branch, as practiced by the Parties, acting as an illegitimate Parliament (which letsgetitdone seems to be implicitly advocating), most recently executed by the Republican Congress under Bush, becomes a permanent, de facto practice in this country without objection. Bill’s objecting, and I’m glad he is.
I read no apology for Obama’s two-faced behavior, and failure to keep his word to the best of his ability, in Bill’s post (even if that was the writer’s intent). We have two problems here, and both need attention, criticism, and fixing.
Just as with those who claim “everything changed” after 9/11, those who dismiss the founding design of our Constitution – as antiquated “namby-pamby idealism” unfit for a “vastly different world” – fail to recognize that human nature hasn’t changed one iota, except perhaps for the worse, since our Constitution was drafted, and it isn’t likely to improve anytime soon. Power and its diffusion, or concentration, is the name of the game, and though the holders of power have shifted over the centuries, the necessity of restraining it in the name of liberty and self-governance remains – which is our present day challenge, in the face of unaccountable Congressional Parties supported by and serving corporate power, to the exclusion of the best interests of the nation.
One part of the post I could perhaps have quibbled with, but NealDeesit @ 75 said very well what needed saying by highlighting one of the actual primary Constitutional responsibilities of the American President, which Obama is also shirking:
I’ve posted a more formal reply to Bill’s post here.
Frank Rich’s otherwise good column suggests Obama’s failure to secure Chicago’s Olympic bid was “stunning”. Far from it. It would have been stunning had he succeeded. The world has nearly 200 heads of state, double the number of American Senators, a dozen or more of whom fielded credible bids to host the world’s biggest biennial sports and marketing campaign.
What is stunning is that the American media continues to misdescribe the full spectrum of the president’s work and the legitimate odds about how much of it he can possibly succeed in doing. That said, he won’t achieve any goals he doesn’t really want. It’s apparent that he doesn’t want a credible public option to be part of the American health insurance/care scheme, or he’d be fighting for it instead of twisting the arms of those who are. That is stunning and that should be news.
It is Old News, here at FDL
Jeez, pardon me for saying it, but a lot of assholes on this thread. I don’t agree with everything in the post either, but I’ll respect it as someone’s opinion. I know ‘civility’ is a bit of an overused buzzword, but it’d be refreshing to at least see some here.
Obama has been in office 8 months. “g” Lots I don’t like but I am still praying for the guy and heeding the words “make him do it”
Pushing hard…that’s our job..make him do his.