The recent Citizens United decision by the Supreme Court has caused a lot of consternation, to say the least. The main concern is that decision is so broad that, if they care to, any cooperation could spend unlimited amounts of its collective money to influence the election of a Senator, a Representative or even state level judges and elected officials.
Today the House Judiciary Sub-Committee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties held a hearing on the impact of this decision and where there might be legal curbs placed on the now unlimited money. There were four witnesses today, Professor Lawrence Tribe from the Harvard School of Law, Monica Youn from the Brennan Center for Justice, Sean Parnell the President of the Center for Competitive Politics (an anti-reform group) and Donald J. Simon of Sonosky, Chambers, Sachse, Endreson & Perry, LLP, a law firm that specializes in representation of Native American interests. He is also General Council for Democracy 21.
All but Mr. Parnell testified to the expected negative impact of the Citizens United ruling. Mr. Parnell, of course, does not think that the Supreme Court stripping away all limits on corporate spending on elections is a problem, as his group tends to think that if you have the biggest stick you should get what you want.
The hearing, from the point of view of the Representatives was how big a problem this is and what could be done legislatively to mitigate the problem. The three big ideas from the witnesses who were in favor of restraining cooperate spending were as follows:
1) Much stronger requirements for reporting to shareholders on expenditures and requirements for direct shareholder approval of expenditures in advance.
2) Strengthen FCC Disclosure – this would include a requirement that all 527 groups fully disclose where they get their money.
3) A law allowing the States to regulate cooperate expenditures in State elections. Currently this would not be possible since the Commerce Clause applies to corporations.
Interestingly none of the pro-reform witnesses were in favor of a Constitutional Amendment, like the one proposed by Representative Donna Edwards. They had two arguments against this, first off the time it would take to amend the Constitution would allow a lot of influence by domestic and foreign company’s to our elections.
The other, which came from Ms. Yuon, was that we should push back on the actions of the Court legislatively before we work on the Constitution. This is the solution I am in favor of but for another reason.
No matter what we do the ilk like Citizens United is going to push to have the elections in this nation be like the Wild West. However, it takes time for court cases to work their way through the system. There has to be some harm done, then an initial case in District Court, an appeal the Circuit Court then it gets back to the Supreme Court. This process is very rarely shortened, even when we are talking about things like habeas corpus. So by putting some limits in right now we buy some time to really dig in and find a way to fix the problem the Supreme Court has handed us.
Ms. Yuon hit the nail on the head about the effects of time on this issue. The Republican members of the committee were unconvinced that corporations really would jump in, one went so far as to say that corporations were the political speakers most likely to be intimidated, citing their willingness to change when boycotted by consumers. The question that shot to my mind was “Who is going to be able to boycott Exxon, exactly?” Even if you don’t buy gas from their station, the number of products that use their oil is shocking. Besides, do we really think they care? If they did, would they be continually fighting to reduce the judgment against them for the Exxon Valdese accident?
There is a lot of hoopla about the proposed Constitutional Amendment. For those who have not seen it, the text reads :
Amendment XXVIII
Section 1. The sovereign right of the people to govern being essential to a free democracy, the First Amendment shall not be construed to limit the authority of Congress and the States to define, regulate, and restrict the spending and other activity of any corporation, limited liability entity, or other corporate entity created by state or federal law or the law of another nation.Section 2. Nothing contained in this Article shall be construed to abridge the freedom of the press.
While this is a good thing in and of itself the path to passage is far from sure. Passage requires not only a 2/3 vote in both the House and the Senate, it requires that ¾ of the states also ratify it. For someone that lived through the attempted ratification of the Equal Rights Amendment as a kid, I am far from convinced that we will be able to get this done.
It is far better to work the system, to make law that has to be challenged in the courts and keep doing so until we can find a set of conditions that protect the people from the non-people corporations.
This is not to say that we should not push ahead with the Amendment attempt, we should. It is just that we need to focus on the immediate future and not allow our political system to be held hostage by the mere threat of enormous amounts of money being spent.
The floor is yours.



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Republicans supposedly hate the Commerce clause since this is the basis of so much federal power over states. I wonder if any brought this up at the hearing or if their greed will trump their ostensible principles.
Nothing came up about that. They were more in the mode of trying to say “No problems, corporations are everyone’s friends!”
I think it might be faster to keep control both houses for 30yrs and the WH and when said justices die replace them with someone that likes their country and not the corp. sponsors. Oh sure and I don’t like the WH now so now what.
The above will work and yes move on to an amendment. This won’t happen in my life time so kids if you don’t like what you see then do something about changing it.
A constitutional amendment is ridiculous. By the time it would get to stage 1, the govt will be completely owned by corps.
That is kind of the thinking in the Judiciary committee too.
Is Edwards naive, or is it a put-up job for her to have a hobby horse to appeal to her progressive supporters?
Solving the problem isn’t on their agenda. These people can’t even go through the motions to look like they care.
While everyone who thinks about the dangers thinks first about constitutional amendments to restore the rights of people, there are other ideas.
Solution without a constitutional amendment:
Step 1: Take incorporating corporations away from the states and give it the the federal government.
Step 2: Change the articles of organization of corporations, since the federal government now controls the process, to reflect society’s needs:
corporations may not lobby or give any money to any political purpose;
corporations have no personhood or free speech rights;
corporations must be environmentally sound;
corporations much consider workers in all decision making;
corporations which kill people must go out of business.
I think it is a little of both. Pushing the process is a good way to keep attention on the problem, and Rep. Edwards is low enough in the pecking order that she might have been talked/arm-locked into doing it to raise her profile.
It sounds good. But do you really think it would pass? That is the problem here doing something that big would give the Republicans a chance to scream “Government Take Over!!!!!1!!”
Bill, it was interesting to read this: “The other, which came from Ms. Yuon, was that we should push back on the actions of the Court legislatively before we work on the Constitution.” because it is exactly what I was pushing in my diary here, specifically “A Constitutional amendment isn’t necessary, all that is needed is legislation changing Title 1,Chapter 1 “Words denoting number, gender, and so forth” to read: the words “person” and “whoever” DOES NOT include corporations, companies, associations, firms, partnerships, societies, and joint stock companies EXCEPT INASMUCH AS SUCH A USAGE PERTAINS TO THE ARTIFICIAL CONSTRUCT USED FOR LEGAL PURPOSES OTHER THAN THE PROCESSES AND ASSOCIATIVE MATERIALS INVOLVED IN ANY ELECTION.
(TITLE 1 > CHAPTER 1 > § 8 covers the legal definition of a living,breathing person)
(Title 1,Chapter 1, of the United States Statutes which become codified in the U.S.C.; Chapter 1 is ‘Rules of Construction’ and Section 1 is what I am suggesting to be changed.)
Still less work than a constitutional amendment, although I support one that repeals corporate personhood.
The other options would be for Dems (first in Delaware and New York) to do it through the states?
How about that?
I don’t think that would work. The corp-rats would just move to other states.
I think it would be easier to just pass legislation that says (in effect) corporations are not people. For the purposes of the law, they are separate and they do not speak as indviduals or Political Action Committees.
Ha! I was just writing something similar in a response to Tom! I wonder what other law it would affect though? I know you’re trying to make it so all existing law is the same without this one stupid idea from the Supreme Court that corporations are somehow citizens, but I am always suspect of simple solutions to complex problems. Still, great minds and all that.
I too recall the ERA, still not ratified after all these years.
Thanks for this update.
BTW, this is the first time I have seen the name of the firm (Sonosky, Chambers, Sachse, Endreson & Perry, LLP, a law firm that specializes in representation of Native American interests) in print. I have heard them mentioned on our local native American radio show so many times that I wonder when did Perry arrive and what happened to Miller and Munsen?
I don’t know. I was not until I was researching him that I even knew of the firm myself. Which is kind of a shame when you get down to it. You’d think I would have a little more exposure to such an important firm for Native Americans. Still you learn something everyday if you pay attention.
So they can’t put forth statutes now and start the Constitutional Amendment process to run concurrently?
Sure that is what I think we should do, but the focus should be on new law first.
I do wish that they would also demand more current reporting on 501 c 3s and 4s who are involved in influencing political issues.
So, for example, the tea parties. I’ve been trying to get information about who is contributing to the various 501 c. 3s and 4s who have supported the events LAST YEAR. The information that I can get on 2009 funding can be delayed till August of 2010 if the groups want to delay filing their 990 forms with the IRS.
What does this mean? That a major insurance company could have dumped 10-20 million into 501 c 3s which then organize events designed to defeat health insurance reform.
Would the public look at a Tea Party rally a bit different if the media said, “Today’s “Anti-ObamaCare rally is brought to you by Screwu Health Insurance. Screwu paid for the speakers at the event and paid for advertising on the radio and tv to get people to attend. The people here believe that they are ‘grassroots’ but what they don’t know is that the bus that moves people from city to city was paid for by Screwu.”
Now I can find out some of this actual information but it will be over a year after the fact. By then the event is over and the battle lost.
I don’t think it would change anything EXCEPT the role corporations currently play in the electoral process. What I would love to hear is any legislator say why such a change is ‘unworkable’.
And (rhetorically speaking) why won’t the Obama Admin make a request of the DOJ to come up with language that addresses the SCOTUS take of ‘constitutionality’?
Well, for one thing that is not the DoJ’s job. It is all about law enforcement (well in theory) not legislative issues.
I believe that is the intent. Sorry if I was less than clear. What I got from the hearing was the idea is to allow no place to hide in terms of your political speech. If this is going to be everyone’s right, then everyone has the right to know who is speaking and in what amounts.
One request. Tribe’s name is misspelled in the article above:
I believe it should be Laurence, as it appears in the PDF.
Best,
Shepherdmoon
Thanks, I am the worst about that stuff. I’ll fix it!
On Jan 21st KO interviewed Johnathan Turley about the decision, and Turley argued against a Constitutional Amend and made some other suggestions. Sorry for being vague; pretty busy right now. Might be worth checking out:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#34984956
I generally trust Turley. I am also seriously doubtful of a Constitutional Amed ever getting passed in my lifetime (yeah, I sure do remember the ERA…), esp with the dolts and chumps we have currently “representing” us, uh, I mean the corporations.
I don’t see this happening but welcome informed discussion about what I consider to be a very, very serious issue for all of us. Good luck.
Or as Barney Frank suggested, free speech is available with unlimited liability.
Unlimited liability means the shareholders become liable for a corporations misdeeds.
Unfortunately,Turley danced around the idea of ‘corporate personhood’.
yeah,in theory BUT: Yoo,Bybee,etc.
I propose a simpler version, which is the following as the 28th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America:
A person is defined as none other than a human being.
For some fascinating reading, I suggest Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad, and When Is a Corporation Like a Freed Slave?
Suck on that, SCOTUS.
In talking about legislation to place restrictions on corporations, some commentors may be misunderstanding the decision in Citizens United. As Justice Scalia pointed out, the First Amendment clause about abridgement of speech is not about speakers but about speech.
The First Amendment protects the citizen from a powerful government that would decide what speech the citizen may hear or read. It matters not whether the speaker is a person or a corporation. It’s the listener who is being protected from censorship.
Wow, that’s a fascinating important point.
Sure sure, speak via your corporations and let us sue and take everything the corp has.
Of course, they would win a bunch of elections using lies before you could take them on. And, what if they use corporations with no assets to spread their lies and innuendo?
Back to individual speech and how it could be limited to ensure everyone’s Free Speech is not run over by a handful with more money.
Yes, but when MegaCorporations blast through on all the airwaves, then my right to hear a range of views by ordinary people IS hindered.
But, what is this ‘free speech’ and protecting my rights to hear it? That sounds very strange.
It sounds like “free software”, which isn’t costless, just free to go whereever and be used by whomever without limit. Bogosity dude!
Individuals have Rights, not legal entities or some concept of ‘speech’. Protect MY right to speak (which won’t exist if MegaCorporations buy all the media) and my right to hear the range of views which may exist.
After progressing through the stages of grieving for our nearly departed democracy, I have come to the final acceptance. Surprisingly (to me anyway) I have come to embrace the Supremes’ Citizens United decision. Far from being a radical introduction of an entirely new corporate paradigm into our political process, I see it as merely a judicial recognition of reality.
Our political process and many (most?) of our elected representatives have long been irredeemably corrupted by incomprehensibly massive corporate bribes. Their lobbyists, bag men and blackmailers have been buying influence, writing legislation and spreading disinformation and propaganda since the founding of our fragile republic. The CU decision merely codifies the obvious.
The responsibility for correcting this egregious malfeasance has been passed back to Congress, where it rightly belongs. Once the election season really begins, and the corporate cash flood becomes fully visible,
the pawns and servants of the oligarchs and plutocrats who occupy the halls of the capitol will have lost the concealing shroud of fictitious campaign finance restrictions, which is as shredded as a surrender flag at the battle of Antietam.
If the American public does not recognize the injustice and absurdity of the new commercial era of government and demand redress along the lines of what commenters here have suggested, then the experiment is finished, and we will deserve our ensuing serfdom.
Hi Bill, If the Democrats got rid of the filibuster, so they could pass something with 51 votes, we could then get the corporations out of politics entirely before the fall elections.
Sorry, there’s nothing in the Constitution or the debates of the time including the Federalist papers that suggests that the founders were trying to do anything except protect the freedom of speakers to speak, and, in addition, to the extent they were aware of corporate forms of organization, they were very much opposed to them. Not to put too fine a point on it, Scalia’s theory is full of shit.
fixed it for you. *g*
letsgetitdone: “there’s nothing in the Constitution or the debates of the time including the Federalist papers that suggests that the founders were trying to do anything except protect the freedom of speakers to speak …
Scalia’s theory is full of shit.”
Thanks for the reply. The majority of the Supreme Court disagrees with you. As I read their decision, they concurred with Scalia in his opinion that the Constitution is protecting speech rather than speakers. Further, a number of Cicuit Court ruloings have made the same point: that the First Amendment is protecting the rights of the listener. My point in commenting was this: as long as the Supreme Court makeup is unchanged, attempts to restrict speech by declaring that corporations are not persons are simply a waste of time. The Court made it clear that the nature of the speaker is irrelevant.
Do the folks commenting here honestly believe that profit-seeking corporations are going to invest much money running advertisements for or against candidates? Certainly no consumer products company is going to risk alienating the 35% of their customers who are Democrats or the 35% who are Republicans. Even industrial corporations have to be careful, for the CEO of an important industrial customer could be offended by candidate advocacy.
Back in the pre-1990 era – when corporations were allowed to publicly advocate for political candidates – there was very little such advertising by profit-seeking corporations.
Consider who Congress was really targetting when they passed McCain-Feingold. It was corporations such as National Right to Life Committee, Christian Coalition, the NRA, and the Enviromental Defense Fund who put the fear in incumbent politicians. Why do you folks believe that the 2010 elections will be any different?