There a few places in my life where I am a minority. Being left handed, being blue-eyed and being an atheist. Only the last one is ever a problem, and while it is not the same as being gay or an easily identified ethnic minority, there is a level of discrimination that is often invisible to those not part of this minority.
The base state assumption in this country is that you have a religion. For the most part people don’t pry but if you mention that you have no faith, that you are confident the universe is a natural phenomenon then you very often become instantly the “other”.
"Originally posted at Squarestate.net"
Not being an aggressive atheist, I don’t put my belief that those who have a faith are deluding themselves out there very much. After all, as long as they are not hurting people with their faith why should I care? When they are hurting people with their faith (as in trying to deny rights to gay citizens or withholding medical treatment from children) fixing that situation is all about the harm they are doing. That it is religiously motivated does not matter in the solution at all.
Still there are a lot of things in our society that are like sandpaper on the skin of atheists. One of them is the National Day of Prayer. Every year on the first Thursday of May, the President issues a proclamation urging the people of the United States to pray. For those with a faith that involves prayer this seems pretty innocuous, but it is a real thumb in the eye for citizens without a faith or who don’t have prayer as part of their religious tradition.
It has actually been enacted by Congress twice, once in 1952 and once in 1988. Yesterday a Wisconsin District Court Judge ruled that is was an unconstitutional violation of the separation of church and state. USA Today reported that Judge Barbara Crabb wrote:
"In fact, it is because the nature of prayer is so personal and can have such a powerful effect on a community that the government may not use its authority to try to influence an individual’s decision whether and when to pray,"
This is a good decision, not because it rules in a way that I favor but because it is actually supporting the idea enshrined in the First Amendment that the government should not be involved in the practice of religion at all. It would be one thing for believing members of Congress to hold some kind of meeting where they pray and as private citizens urge citizens to pray, but when they act in their official capacity as the government of the United States to urge prayer they are crossing the line which the Constitution sets.
The case was defended for the government by the Department of Justice. They defend in any case where the Congress has passed a law; that is part of their job, to defend all laws passed by the Congress until and unless they are found to be unconstitutional. The DoJ argued, rather weakly to my mind, that the day just acknowledged the role of religion in the United States. There has been no decision on appealing this ruling but it is likely it will be appealed up to the Supreme Court, if for no other reason than it is going to be a politically hot issue and the President would rather not be seen to be pandering to godless atheists, even if it is the constitutional thing to do.
Conservatives and Republicans are going to be shouting and gnashing their teeth about this issue. They will be trotting out their stale arguments about the United States being a Christian nation (even though the Framers consciously and affirmatively refused to make it such when they had the chance to declare it so in the writing of the Constitution). The reason they use this argument is they are actually trying to make it so now, not because the Framers thought it or would have wanted it to be that way.
This is the reason I find this to be good law. If we are to resist the urge to legislate morality then we have to keep all religion as far from the law of our nation as possible. Personally I do not find that religious people are any more or less ethical or moral than anyone else, so the assumption that their religiously informed attitudes should receive special deference in the law is not a valid one. If legislators use their upbringing, whether atheist, Wiccan, Pagan, Islamic, Christian, Buddhist or otherwise to inform their thinking and votes on an issue is fine. It becomes a problem for everyone else if they try to in any way impose that upbringing on others.
It is mildly unfortunate that this decision came down during an election cycle that has seen the Republicans use increasingly inflammatory rhetoric. Expect politicians like the crazy-eyed Rep. Michele Bachmann to be spouting about judicial activism and claiming it is another step towards Socialism. They will even lay it at the feet of the president, even though his DoJ has been defending against this suit.
In the end it I think it is likely that this will be upheld. As Judge Crabb notes there is no secular purpose which the government would like to achieve that can be reasonably tied to an official holiday that urges prayer. In fact any attempt to list a purpose other than a nebulous recognition of religion in America would make it even more unconstitutional than it is.
Much of the time when we talk about the law lately it seems that it is to lament that some little bit of liberty has been lost. Today this is not the case. If the National Day of Prayer is abolished believers do not lose anything and those of us citizens who do not believe or do not pray are no longer made to feel like we do not really belong to this nation. I know that those on the Religious Right will disagree, but this is a good thing for a nation that is to often pulling itself apart. Any reduction in the feeling of exclusion by any minority is a good thing for democracy and a good thing for the United States.
The floor is yours.



22 Comments







Bill,
Thanks for the post. Although I am a Christian and have participated in a prayer breakfast, my Great Grandfather was very committed to prayer in private. I agree with him and I agree with the judge’s ruling.
And when there is an outcry, there is the verse above…and the import of the separation of church and state.
You’re welcome. That verse is actually quoted in the decision, which I find interesting in and of itself.
But Bill, George Washington once said (I think it was a tuesday – or maybe wednesday – no, I’m sure it was a tuesday)”God Bless” after someone sneezed. That Proves we are a Christian Nation!
I’m with Gandhi: “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
I wish we behaved more Christ-like but I think this decision will be appealed ( and thrown out ) from the former rather then the later position.
Maybe- over at the Volokh Conspiracy seem to to agree with you. Me? I am an optimist so I think that the law is going to go our way. We will see.
Actually, Washington said “Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.”; and “It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible.” “The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained.” “Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.”
Of all the Founder’s, you chose to cherry pick Washington? Thanks for emphasizing my point. Washington was somewhat notorious for his lack of public religious zeal. He seems to have attended a number of churches over different periods (and for different political reasons) but is not particularly known for his support of Christianity versus a general deity. In a letter to his agent at Mt. Vernon, about hiring workmen, he wrote: “If they be good workmen, they may be from Asia, Africa, or Europe; they may be Mohammedans (Muslims), Jews, or Christians of any sect, or they may be Atheists.”
Thanks for playing – let’s do Jefferson next.
An Atheist doesn’t believe in God. Maybe you should check out nihilism Bill. Nihilists don’t believe in anything. I am a pantheist. I believe in everything. Why take chances. I think prayer is a good thing. But a National Day of Prayer is just silly.
Well, the thing is that I go on evidence. It allows me to change my mind when I get new information. If someone showed me some credible evidence of a god or gods, I would have to reevaluate.
As for nihilism, I am way too much of an optimist to latch on to that. I generally believe (faith without proof) that things will turn out well. The fact that I’m wrong about that a lot of the time does not stop me from still believing it. Call it a natural predisposition.
But if you think prayer is good,well that is your call. I don’t want to influence you one way or the other, as long as you are not trying to force your point of view on me.
First it was deemed that religion had no place in schools, so they forced god out. Point one: Shortly there after columbine school. Point two: It progressively gets worse from there. I’m not trying to be rude but when our children are dying due to lack of moral teachings, i think it is proven that the absence of God is chaos. It is just wiser to believe and be wrong than not believe and be wrong. See, if you believe and are wrong (no problem). if you don’t believe and are wrong, you have an eternity of suffering to think about your decision. Your choice is only whether to believe or not believe. It’s the consequences of your choice you have no control over. Eternity is a long time. Christianity is a faith not a religion. I’m a Christian only because it works. I hope I’ve given you the proof you need. I’m not against atheism i’m only against error.
You think that 37 years is a short period of time? Really, school prayer ended before either of the two Columbine killers were born. And you are an evolution denier?!?
Wow, I would love to have a rational conversation with you, but that does not seem likely given your three comments.
It may be a cliche but it is also true: as long as schools make students take tests, there will be prayers.
What the Court rulings said is there can be no ORGANIZED and OFFICIAL prayers in the schools (implying the state endorses that particular religion).
Such a simple concept yet it often eludes the grasp of many folks.
I am also an atheist, but I think this ruling is most likely going to be summarily reversed, and probably won’t make it to the supreme court.
I’m a first year law student and in my constitutional law class we just got to the establishment clause. We have not had class discussion on it yet (that’s monday) but based on the reading I have done in preparation, I don’t see this ruling surviving.
Under the Supreme Court’s establishment clause jurisprudence, the government is allowed to advance secular religious practices and even allowed to tolerate obviously religious objects so long as there is no explicit favor or disfavor of a religion in the governments actions.
There is a line of cases which has stated that the government does not violate the establishment clause, for example, with saying in speeches “so help me god”, having “in god we trust” on our money, or by opening legislative sessions with a prayer. I see the national day of prayer as analogous to these situations. the Scotus probably has 5 votes saying exactly that and allowing the practice because the day of prayer (I don’t know the details but i am assuming) does not explicitly call for a christian prayer but instead calls for a generic prayer.
But what about atheists? We are citizens too, and for there to be a national holiday (similar to MLK day or Labor Day) where the State is giving it official sanction without any secular purpose (since the recognition of religion can’t by definition have a secular purpose) there seems to be good grounds for this going beyond the ceremonial deism of putting “in God We Trust” on the money.
The other thing to note is that while atheists are a reviled minority, we are a much more viable one now than when the other cases were decided. This is closer to school prayer than it is to “so help me god”. It a major purpose of democracy and law to protect the rights of the minority. It may be that you’re right about the future of this case, but that does not mean it is the right decision.
Think of it from the other side. What if there were a national holiday urging the practice of magic? Would that be sustainable?
I’m really sorry to say that there is still simply too much power in the religious majority for the atheist minority to get annoying things like a day of prayer toned down.
Justice Scalia has gone so far as to to say that government can and should favor religion and he’s not alone. I quote “Our national tradition has resolved that conflict in favor of the majority” and “there is nothing unconstitutional in a State’s favoring religion generally, honoring god through public prayer and acknowledgment”
Although I personally think this flies in the face of the establishment clause, there is unconstitutionality in theory and unconstitutionality as decided by the supreme court.
There wouldn’t be – and even if there was, it would be struck down- a national day urging pagan rituals. Unless that ritual was christmas, then it will be ok because the will of the majority refuses to acknowledge the presence of those who disagree. According to the supreme court conservatives, those practices which are enshrined in tradition become insulated against first amendment violation.
I would also disagree about being a more viable minority. I don’t dare reveal myself as an atheist by and large because I’m confident that will give some religious fellow all the reason he needs to commit violence on myself, my family, or friends. Perhaps that is just Texas though.
If you don’t care then why do you care?
Good Lord, now it’s the atheist that we have to worry
about.
Sandpaper on the skin of atheist??? Why would this be so bothersome I wonder.
Anyway, I am right (there is a God) and you are wrong
(believing there isn’t one)
Disbelieving it doesn’t change it. Call me foolheaded in my beliefs.
Hey, I don’t particulary like some of the things that go on. I don’t like many of the things that have happened in my life. I’ll have a lot of questions for Him when I die but at least I’ll have the chance to ask them.
What amazes me is that the idea that this whole earth and it’s people and animals were created by some big explosion.
No, I don’t believe that the world was created in 6,000 years. His word say’s a day is like a thousand years to Him. Our time is not His time.
Leave it alone.
Wow, what a tolerant person you are!
The point you should be worried about is that if we start to endorse any religion, then you could be on the losing side if your religion falls out of favor.
You seem like you are some stripe of Christian. How would you feel about a national holiday urging us to fast for Ramadan? Would that get on your nerves? Would it make you feel like your values are less important to the whole of the nation that those of the Islamic faith?
This is what the Framers wanted to avoid and what I am talking about.
The world was not created in 6000 years. That scripture has long been taken out of context. The earth was created in 6 days just like the bible says. There is no such thing as evolution otherwise we would not have dinosaur fossils (foot prints) with human tracks over them. The world is only about 10,000 years old and carbon dating is unreliable scene an oak lief freshly picked from a tree will date over 300 years. I’m personally sick of lies being taught to our children in the name of science. In all the text books you will find the words (hundreds of millions of years ago). The only difference between that phrase and ounce upon a time is the spelling. It’s still leading into a ferry tail.
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”
Saying you need to pray is establishing religion. It’s a shame so many judges have such a horrible understanding of the English language. Take Antonin Scalia….please.
It seems to me the Constitution is pretty clear on the subject. Not that it ever stopped Congress and the President before. I would like to see a National Atheist Recognition Day, it seems to me that has more constitutional validity than a National Prayer Day since atheism is not a religion. I guess atheism could be construed as a lack of religion, although since I have been an atheist as long as I can remember I have never had a religion and therefore lack the capacity to lack one. I think.
Religion is merely something you believe in. You seam to believe in the absence of religion very strongly. That would make it a definite religion. Atheism is growing every day dew to this unproven theory of evolution.
There is nothing wrong with prayer when you keep it to your self or within your houses of religion.
When You take that prayer to the public is where the problems begin.
Trying to make others belive and do as you do is what’s wrong with religion, because religion is your beliefs and doesn’t have to be others beliefs.
Most of the wars and strife that has happened on this planet was because of religion and beliefs. Today our problems with Muslum Extremists and the devisions in this Country made by Christian Extremists is much the same. both want everybody to beieve and do as they want them to do.
Religion has it’s place but not openly part of any society.
If I may blogwhore for a moment, 14 years ago, as a religion reporter in the Bible Belt, I took on the National Day of Prayer. And unlike most of what I published over a 25-year career in newspapers, I think this has held up well.