This election cycle does not look very good for Democrats. There are structural problems of having won seats in the House that we might not have taken if we had not had the massive outpouring of support for President Obama’s campaign. There is the issue of the economy where voters tend to punish the party in power, regardless of if it was they who drove the economy into trouble or not. There is the mid-term issue where the party that holds the White House historically loses seats. All these combined with a base that is unhappy (with some good reason) with the way that a historic majority has compromised so many of their priorities and values.
Whether it is your intent to support Democrats or not, the time to get involved in the process is now. If you just can’t stomach your particular Democratic candidate, then find a way to work for the ones that you can. Nothing is more important than protecting the liberal and progressive members of Congress, if the long term goal is to move the nation to the left politically.
Some of my friends talk about sending a message to Democrats by not supporting them this cycle. I have and continue to argue that they won’t learn that lesson from losing seats. However, there is another component that might (probably won’t, but might) increase the chances of them hearing this lesson, that is if the most progressive or liberal candidates are the ones who retain their seats.
But in one way that does not really matter. If long term change is what you are interested in, then it is critical that you get involved now, so when the left is doing its post mortem on this bad election cycle you can be there to make your voice heard about the need to stand up for liberal and progressive values. To be able to make the case that it was not that the Dems were too liberal and that is why they lost it was that they were not liberal enough to stand up for what the people wanted.
Being on the inside is the key to being able to make any message heard, and there is a lot of power there. Nothing in politics is fast, simple or easy. If those are the things that attract you, then you’re better off buying a box cake mix.
Rayne recently wrote in a comment on her great series on the Angry Left:
This was not something to be done for a Congressional term, or a presidential term. A democracy takes a lifetime to maintain; this isn’t something from which we can walk away feeling like the work is done.
The lessons were already set before us; our founding fathers spent their entire lifetimes on creating a democracy. Should we really expect it to take less time and investment to keep it?The process of maintaining our democracy is one that requires a lot of work, but it does not require it from a lot of people. Here on this website there are enough people that we can change the face of the Democratic Party, if we are willing to do the work. That is the rub. Just blogging or talking with folks who feel the same as you is not going to get it done.
If you want change, just yelling louder is not enough. You have to be willing to go and push your way to the front of the party. Then you can steer things the way you want. It takes time but if everyone who posts or reads here got out there and started to work with a political party now, and then you will be ready to make some difference in the choices for 2012.
That’s the kind of time frame you have to focus on. There is work to be done for this cycle, but the choices are already set. The nominees are known and you really have three choices, vote for a Republican, and vote for a Democrat or cast some kind of protest vote or sit out (basically the same thing). Personally I see anything but a vote for Democrats at this point as de facto vote for Republicans and their Tea Party driven agenda of crazy. Opinions on that vary but it is not really the point of this post.
All of us want to have better options in 2012 which means we need to start working for that now. It does not matter if you get involved with the Greens or the Libertarians or the Democrats but go and get involved. Try to be in the Party and work to get in the governing structure. It will take commitment. Think of it as the hobby that will take up all of your extra free time. You won’t be given authority right away, but if you join with a couple of friends and put yourselves forward you will find it very easy to get to positions of middling authority. This is important as you are trying to build a structure that will let you and your liberal cohorts have a voice in the recruiting and nominating process.
This is how we get better candidates and eventually better governors, Representatives and Senators. I am not going to gild the lily here, it is going to take time. You might not have a lot of influence in 2012 or you might have a ton. It is really hard to know, but even if you have a lot of influence the job is not over. Getting the liberal side of the Democratic Party back in the driver’s seat is going to take a long sustained effort. Or if you just won’t work with the Dems, then it will be a longer time to get a third party in shape. In any case the way to do it is to start now. There is a ton of work to be done and there is no better way to gain credibility with your local and state party than to work in an election that is going to be tough.
Just think about what it would mean if the 5,000 or so people on this site today all went and got involved with their local party (minus those already involved). 10 people in one state party can really shift things if they are willing to work hard. They can take over a county party without too much trouble. If we all got out there and started working instead of just writing and reading for change, then we really can change things. Hell, we might even be able to make it clear that when Dem voters stay home it is not because they want their elected officials to be more like the Republicans.
So, now it up to you; it is not like it is the governance of your nation or anything important like that we are talking about. Oh, wait, yes it is. You still have the choice, you can do nothing or just grudgingly vote and have the same lousy choices next cycle or you can start to lay the ground work for change and candidates that you can be proud to support and say “I helped elect that gal/guy”. Someone will be doing this, most recently we have seen it from the Tea Partiers, but it could be the Liberals who make the next big splash and move the nation in the right direction. It just requires showing up and working.
The floor is yours.



46 Comments

‘I see anything but a vote for Democrats at this point as de facto vote for Republicans and their Tea Party driven agenda of crazy.’
I totally agree. If we want the country to get through this terrible time, we need to vote for the Best, if not just Not Terribles. Anything else makes us responsible for the disaster.
Yeah, but not everyone sees it that way. Which is okay, if scary to me. I just think that anyone who is serious about wanting things to change should get going now, when they can get the most value from their work in terms of credibility later.
Ditto!
Yup.
First thing to do is cut away the dead wood and clean out the rot.
No, I beg to differ. You have to have an alternative on hand at the very same time, cannot simply prune. That’s how a power vacuum is created which can be easily co-opted by the wrong people and groups.
Democratic progressives within the party should be working at this very moment to identify candidates who are prepared to file their papers to run for office by whatever state/local deadline for the 2012 race (assume Nov.2011-Jan.2012 time frame for filing).
Further, Democratic progressives should be working on fundraising, setting up PACs with funding to deploy on solid progressive candidates. If the work is done now, it’s not in the way during the 2012 campaign season and the candidates can concentrate on outreach with the public.
Potential candidates, especially those who are looking to run a primary against a more conservative Dem, should be doing what they can to develop name recognition right now.
And in spring/summer of 2012, the pruning begins by voting for the well-prepared progressive candidate over the more conservative incumbent in the primary. It’s in the primary season for many races that pruning occurs, and when voters fail to show up. Look carefully at the conservative opposition: the Tea Party views the O’Donnell-Castle match up in the DE primary as their moment to prune. That’s exactly what should happen within Democratic ranks.
The time is now to be working on 2012. Do what you can for progressives in 2010, but we need to learn the lesson we choose to ignore election after election: if you wait until you are angry at the latest crew of corporatist fascists that got elected, you are waiting until too late. We need to be builing an INDEPENDENT movement between and through elections, and we need to stop getting lost in the election cycle, which pulls us back into the dead of partisanship over and over and over again.
We need a strong, nationwide slate of real progressives for 2012. We already blew it for 2010. We ‘gave him a chance’ and all that crap.
…the dead end of partisanship…
Yup.
Just like it did in 2010.
How many Friedman units do you want besides 4?
And how hard is it to defeat an entrenched incumbent of your own party as opposed to a Freshman from the opposite one?
Are you advocating a progressive alternative to Barack Obama in 2012?
You have to show up to get it done.
I know from first hand experience that only the hardcore folks showed up — the same thin numbers I’ve seen for the last seven years.
I don’t need your freaking Friedman units.
More importantly, this country doesn’t need freaking lip service from progressives who whine and complain but never show up to do the damned work.
And I am looking for a real progressive candidate, but to be quite candid they are very few and far between because progressive candidates ready to run in 2012 should have been in the pipeline running for office back in 2002-2006. It’s going to take a miraculous candidate with superstar charisma to overcome the lack of work by progressives for the last decade.
I spent an hour on Friday night coaching a progressive candidate who’s running for the first time now, will likely lose because the truth is he got started late, didn’t have enough money, didn’t have name cred — everything I just explained above as needed. I’ve given him a check, given him my time, will have to give him more and encourage him to run yet again in 2012 when he’ll have better odds.
Now it’s your turn: what are you doing about this, and who are you grooming for 2012? Do you need another half-dozen Friedman units before you actually do anything productive?
Hmmmm… I don’t think the Democrats are going to move left after the bloodbath in November. They will blame progressives, and then move further to the right. Obama is probably focused on his own reelection chances by now, and I’m guessing he’s thinking how to get back moderate voters – which means we won’t see anything better from him in the next two years than we have seen in the last two.
I was surprised that you listed Libertarians among the parties in your post, given that they mostly don’t really believe in any of the virtues of government.
Rayne: There is a small local party that I can get involved with… I haven’t, so far, for various reasons, but this seems like the proper time.
You don’t know what I do so spare me the condescension.
And you have shown a distinct lack of results.
So how many Friedmans are you going to devote to your definition of insanity (doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results)? What is it going to take for you to get the message that the Institutional Democratic Party has to be weakened so it can change?
Will war with Iran do it? How about a 20% reduction in Social Security?
Why do you think dismissing your base and cravenly cowering to the opposition’s is going to win?
1. Underpants.
2. ???
3. Profit!
We have followed your program for 2 cycles and it hasn’t worked.
And by the way…
Who the hell are you to characterize the amount of work done by progressives in the last decade? We won 2 cycles in a row starting with the groundwork laid by Dr. Dean in 2004 and during his tenure at the DNC with his 50 state strategy. We gave the 111th Congress Filibuster proof majorities and the Presidency.
Let’s see how good you do by insulting us.
Ah, but “showing up and working” means doing, week after week, the same sort of unglamorous work Rayne describes in her posts. The problem is that too many people, particularly in the younger crowd that grew up using broadband, think that they can do all the grunt work from a computer keyboard. You can’t.
So, tell us what sort of work you’ve done, compared to what Rayne’s done? I freely admit that I haven’t come close to what she’s done — and I don’t count what I do online as work.
I think it’s telling that Rayne responds to insults with facts, and then you get all hyperdefensive and accuse her of doing what was done to her.
So again: Tell us what you’ve done, compared to what Rayne’s done? Consistently, over the long term?
I have to amend this slightly for clarity.
I am replying to Rayne @ 9
I should have said 3 cycles and the ones I am specifically referring to are 2000, 2002, and 2004.
Under Dr. Dean we were successful in 2006 and 2008.
I don’t care to share. I value my anonymity. Rayne’s claim has exactly the same value as mine.
None.
It’s simply an appeal to authority with no factual basis.
You’d think that some folks don’t mind at all that the Republicans think that an unapologetic bigot who killed two unarmed Iraqi prisoners in 2004 is Congressional material:
Except Rayne’s facts can be checked. Yours?
EkHornbeck: If you really want to do what didn’t work in 1968 (when the left punished Humphrey for Nixon’s sabotaging the Paris Peace Talks), 1980, 1994, and 2000, thinking that this time it will finally drive the Democrats leftward in an era when our GOP/Media Complex is going to put the most right-wing-friendly spin on things and claim the Dems lost for being too liberal, you’re free to do just that.
I’d rather that you actually work to decrease the role played by corporate entities (hint: http://www.publicampaign.org), but you’re free to go ahead and do what has never worked for progressives any time it’s been tried.
Can they?
What facts?
You have her assertions, but unless you have some offline connection and I rely on your assertions and credibility (which I don’t) I have no facts at all.
I might as well say that I work at the White House and have lunch with Barack Obama every day.
As Maxwell Smart might say, “Would you believe that?”
No.
Nor would I expect anyone else to.
But we should keep voting for the idiots that continue war, don’t close Guantanamo, force us to buy expensive health insurance, keep spying on Americans, who don’t see far enough ahead to provide jobs programs???!!??
NO. Enough of the Blue Dogs and New Democrats. I don’t reward idiotic behavior, even when the Republicans are far worse.
Let 2010 election happen, and get good progressives ready for 2012.
Sigh.
More Nader bashing.
It was Institutional Democratic cowardice that cost Gore the Election.
Just makes me more likely to vote for Blue Dogs.
Keep up the good work!
And about 1980.
Do some math and add Anderson’s vote to Carter.
He still loses.
Which of course just adds to your personal credibility.
And I’m done responding Dog.
We’ll see in November who is right. Me, or you with your Fear Factor DLC motivation.
I woke up this morning to a beautiful day and then i see this feeble attempt to prod us into supporting their, low energy death cult. They are trying to use the repug’s fear tactic but they are dems so it just looks like desperation.
Dump Obama
I’ve been involved with a progressive movement in my congressional district and finding that the lack of enthusiasm for this election quite an obstacle. Many of the people I’ve contacted are disillusioned with Washington and feel there is no difference between the Democratic and Republican candidates in this district. The health care bill, the economy, housing and the two wars are the big issues that are dragging down Independent and moderate Republican voter turn out which was an important factor in getting the Democrats elected.
It’s also a little hard to even get progressive voters enthused when the President himself insults us, not once but twice.
There has to be a better message than “They Are Worse”.
http://www.stopmebeforeivoteagain.org
Must be nice telling people to do something they’re already doing. As usual, we’re two steps ahead, buddy. See the posts here doing fundraising for Jill Stein in Massachusetts, including entries by myself and Dave Schwab. I’d like to know why you and the others think we’re not doing any work to elect actual progressives to public office.
ha ha ha, ho ho ho. Citation needed! They will take your work and effort and time and give back what they have been giving us for more than 20 years – a police state, chronically at war with concocted enemies.
Thanks Democrats, but no thanks, it is foolish to self exploit for any members of such a party.
There is a better message, “We’re essentially the same, so stop wasting time trying to find ways to differentiate us, and figure out a way to kick both our asses out post haste.”
According to you, every attempt to put forth a left challenger has been wrong. At least you’re consistent.
But your methodology is horribly flawed. You insist on a case-by-case analysis, but fail to look at the total picture. Despite the fact that there have been left challengers in Democratic presidential primaries, the HEGEMONIC position has been to support the party machine candidate, to always vote for the lesser evil, for over 40 years. And our position is not a good one. Look at the pathetic lesser evils you would have us vote for this go-round, lesser evils who are in fact to the RIGHT of Richard Nixon in 1970.
I’ve been through this knuckle down (knuckle under, to be precise) and work for the party treadmill. It’s how the party keeps its left frittering away its forces over and over.
The point is not to build the Democratic Party. The point is to build the left. I would agree that the left is lazy, hasn’t built the structures for independent power, etc.
But what I contend they failed at is a very different task from what you are urging, which is more of the failed same.
Good point about preparing for 2012.
That’s why I insist that the Dump Obama movement has to start now.!
Why do you think that is?
How about YOU and RAYNE and your little clique tell us what YOU’VE been doing besides insulting us and ordering us to support your corporate-owned politicians? because all I ever see you do is toss out lame insults, threaten us with Republican victories if we fail to show up to vote for wannabe-Republicans, and abuse moderator powers to bully people into silence. Considering the sheer amount of time you people engage in this behavior, I can’t imagine you do much else.
So how about you take your own advice, children, and do some work. Here’s the web site for Ohio Green Party gubernatorial candidate Dennis Spisak. He’s running an uphill battle against two corporate-owned politicians. Donate some money, volunteer on his campaign, get on the phone and get people to donate so Dennis can qualify for matching funds and get into the debates.
http://www.votespisak.org/governor
I’ll see you at the literature-drops.
You want a better choice? I’M WORKING NOW. No excuses, no rationales, no triangualation to spoon-feed the media what they/you WANT to hear, I am the Green party candidate for US Representative, MI-12, and I WILL support Single Payer, a full employment/WPA policy, accountability for both war and financial criminals, clean elections, publicly funded ,and legislation barring lobbyist and corporate influence in our government. It’s amazing, when people are unemployed, hungry, ill with no healthcare, about to lose their homes, selling their children to the military because they can’t afford higher education, they just don’t respond well to the sell-outs of the legacy parties, and the lecturing and hectoring and fear-mongering of “they are worse than we are”. Guess what, political “consultants”? PEOPLE ARE HUNGRY AND HOMELESS in this country, 1 out of 7 are living at or below the poverty line, and true unemployment is at 20% (or greater). Don’t give me any lines about “working for 2012″, “politics is hard”, people will die before then because of the game-playing you are selling. Tell me what YOU are doing to alleviate the desperation of our citizens, (besides trying to elect Democrats, and after the “cat-food’ commission, you have NO liberal street cred at all). Get active, all right! Vote Green!
and what you said!
It’s not their pattern to move to the left, perhaps because they have always taken progressives for granted. For this election cycle, they have shown absolutely no intention of moving left,and have even taken to insulting progressives. My guess is that they are too beholden to their corporate donors, and have learned that the farther right they drift, the more cash they get.
And BTW – I’m on your side. I think we should toss the Dems as far as we can up the river. But Rayne and others are valuable teammates for us. Let’s disagree without getting nasty.
Preaching to the choir over here. I found out the other day that the PA govt spied on me because I organized BP protests…plus, I’m volunteering for a local Green campaign…plus I started a community garden…plus idk, some other stuff.
Why do you think the Democrats take progressives for granted?
So I’m supposed to be polite to people who never hesitate to get nasty toward the rest of us? I don’t think so. Tell Phoenix Woman and Rayne — who are neither teammates or valuable — to stop dishing it out if they can’t take it. Politics is for adults, and the adults are taking it back from the children.
And what you said! :>)
Awww, Bill, this is a bit disingenuous seeing what just went down in our backyard.
Bennet.
Total solid party support for Romanoff by the locals. A definite change. Solid 2:1 support for Romanoff by US LOCAL PEOPLE/ACTIVISTS. I planted a bunch of signs, gave some money, made some calls.
And what happened? The OFA machine came in and disrupted the whole thing.
Naturally I don’t want to hear “work harder inside the party.” And I’m not the only CO Dem that feels that way, as you well know.
Cause here’s the thing; with Romanoff on the ticket there’s no way Buck would be leading. There would be no incumbent to run against, who, BTW voted badly on more than one occasion. So I have zero empathy for the DNC/DSCC or OFA.
Right on Michael, Some other adults and inspired yourh were arrested today at the mountaintop removal demonstration in DC. More of the children will follow when they see what real leadership of a Movement means.
I think most of the people in my precincts got that message already. I find that talking to them about the importance of State and Local elections here in NY has some affect on their interest. They aren’t fond of Cuomo but they know he is far better than Paladino
You’re missing the point Kelly. There are going to be defeats. This does not happen all at once, it takes time. The whole idea that the existing structure is just going to roll over in one cycle is a fallacy. Romanoff himself would tell you that.
This is a long range thing. It is the only way I know of to get real change. Rayne has it right, it can take a lifetime. I know that is not very satisfying but it is the facts on the ground. Our choice is what we will do with these facts.
I guess I don’t have the same perspective as other folks. I grew up with this , it has always been a fight to change things, and most of my life the nation was swinging to the Right. Now we are starting to see movement to the Left, but there is no reason to expect it to be automatic or any faster than the 30 year swing to the Right was.
Well, you’re missing my point.
Everything would have gone the local and desired way that the locals worked for; except the National OFA machine undid all that.