Whoomp! Whoosh! That was the sound of Tim Pawlenty self-immolating. T-Paw (what kind of presidential candidate gives himself a nickname like that?!?) was thought to be one of the “serious” candidates. While he had been a very conservative governor, there was still this impression that he was one of the smart ones, if also one of the most boring ones.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/05/pawlenty-says-if-he-were-president-he-would-sign-paul-ryans-budget.html
However today he drank the Republican Jonestown Kool-Aid. This is what ABC News is reporting he said:
“First of all, I applaud Congressman Ryan for his courage and his leadership in putting his plan forward. At least he has a plan. President Obama doesn’t have a plan. The Democrats don’t have a plan. And I really applaud his leadership and his courage in putting a plan on the table. Number two, we will have our own plan; it will have many similarities to Congressman Ryan’s plan, but it will have some differences, one of which will be we’ll address Social Security. He chose not to; we are addressing Social Security. And the Medicare part of our plan will have some differences, too. It will have some similarities also. So we’ll have our own plan. But if I can’t have my own plan — as president, I’ll have my own plan – if I can’t have that, and the bill came to my desk and I had to choose between signing or not Congressman Ryan’s plan, of course I would sign it.”
You know he is trying. You really have to give him that, he is trying. He takes a disingenuous swipe at the President and the Democrats by saying they don’t have a plan. It is true, the White House and the Democrats have no plan to privatize Medicare or Social Security. Those ideas are strictly Republican ones.
Still he has done it, he has signed on with the suicide pact that is the Ryan Budget. He has said out loud and in front of reporters that if he were president and the Ryan budget came to his desk he’d sign it.
It is more than a little astounding that Republicans are starting their campaign season by defending and doubling down on a plan that is massively unpopular. No one is willing to see Medicare cut to give more tax breaks to the wealthy. We should always keep sight of the fact this plan does not just cut funding for Medicare so drastically that seniors would have to pay an estimated $6,000 year in out of pocket expenses, it does it so that we can give the wealth another massive tax break.
For a long time I and others have talked about epistemological closure in the Republican Party. It is the idea that no new information or information that contradicts a pillar of Republican orthodoxy is allowed into the world of Conservatives/Republicans or Teahadists. For a long time is was a question of having a very little opening to the real world where some new data could slip in through the cracks.
Now it seems the Republican informational horizon has sealed itself and is cut off from most of reality, like the other dimensions that are rolled up smaller than the Plank length and can’t really be seen.
With Pawlenty caving and saying he would support the Ryan budget, this is going to become the litmus test for all Republican candidates. They won’t be able to dodge the question and there is only one acceptable answer. They are all going to have to say they’d sign the Ryan budget if they were President and that is going to pretty much doom them all.
Sure it is a requirement for getting the Republican nomination, but it will be an albatross around the neck of whoever does get the nod from the GOP. They won’t be able to avoid the fact they support ending Medicare as we know it. The seniors that they counted on know it is a lie when they say they are saving it and they won’t be able to run away form the fact they support ending this program.
So, while Pawlenty’s campaign is not over, there is a slow fuse burning towards fifteen milk gallon jugs filled with gasoline. Sooner rather than later it is going to explode and take any chance Timmy had at being president up with in him a column of political smoke and flame.
What is on your minds tonight Firedogs? The floor is yours!




16 Comments

Let ‘em all rot in hell Mr. Egnor, along with the Dims who are killing us not so softly with THEIR songs, too.
N if you think the Dims have no plan to attack SS or medicare, then you fail to appreciate the horror of Obama’s faux healthcare reform plan and how it opens the door to social services erosions.
You beat me to it.
About Pawlenty’s nickname-perhaps he thought he might pull in the Trekkie vote by referencing the Vulcan character T’Pau.
AS for signing on to Ryan’s budget plan, the GOP candidates all seem to fear the TeaHadist faction of their party, don’t they?
I have no criticisms of any of this.
You know, since the Democrats refuse to do anything that they can’t get a Republican to sign off on, the epistemological closure of the Republican party is the de facto epistemological closure of the Overton window at the federal level.
Just saying.
The Democratic plan… (of the neoliberal leaders and funders, ) would be… mouth off against any of what the Republican plan/ plans are, (and that’s on a good day.) and then not deliver on any of even what shallow rhetoric they may come up with, and take a dive at every chance, to let the Republican plan push the agenda, and create the reality.
“They are the ones who create the reality that…” some of you” will study in the history.”
Some of the Democrates, [some of em,] seem to like it like that… A “symbiotic” relationship, by the looks of things. They must think it is invisible that they are helping the radical right, by failing to do their job. To do the job, must be to fight like hell against radical rightist, corporatist, neofascists. That’s the least of what is expected of Democrats. While there is any discussion, like bandying about taboo words… with certain letters at the beginning…? (and not to say fire loud in theatres…. ) talk of shit canning the little stippend that keeps oldsters in beans and sterno… and meds, talk of doing that borders criminality, but the dems… too busy playing with each other… /S!
its in their charter, or what should be the charter and description of their mission. The bastards.
On topic at last… Plenty of Pawlenta, is a good example of the tragic/comic archetype that made a career for that comic on TV who does the perfect take off on that kind, Colbert report, the same look, it’s a joke everybody gets that joke, fuddy duddy, even back in the flyover hinterlands they laugh at them twerpy hypocrites, don’t they….?
Yeah, n I’m not proud to have even said it, huh . . .
Doubt you are either.
I should be at a fest in the Sierra’s, festing, picking and enjoying 5,000 DFH’s of all sorts and kinds and bonding with my former campmates and best of friends. N that goes for my honey, too.
So, I’m a bit mournful tonite . . . n reality ain’t doin much to soothe my soul . . . circle the wagons n take care of yer own and any others ya can I guess.
I’m gonna cook for a few days and share with neighbors, that will help some . . . yer comment at John’s diary was lovely, short n sweet to the point.
Slainthe Mhath, hoss. We do what we can.
If that means both parties are doomed for their failure to care for the masses, then right fucking on.
Cuz it’s unsustainable at this point.
Rachel made a guess last night that the wingers tho’t they could practice Shock Doctrine and get thru a big program before the economic disaster they created could be digestd – and met big FAIL because the public wouldn’t make the leap required to getting rid of Medicare to solve the financial meltdown that made Medicare and Social Security one of the few lifesavers left.
The entire horde of these republican cretins are hell-bent on making Barak the First,Barak the Second. Pawlenty is pro-war as are the rest of them except Paul. So with any luck we will have a pro-war president to keep us interfering in the affairs of others until at least 2016, unless the Mayans are right. It shows the true nature of our people that fear of losing Medi-care trumps all other facets of life. 7 kids wee blown up near Kabul yesterday and nobody asked Pawlenty or any other dip-dung repub if their deaths were a good use of American military power. Paul is the only hope for the ” Blessed Peacemakers,” and he will be massacred by clowns like Pawlenty, Romney, Palin, et nauseum. Zenostoa,
And from 1974, here come the Ohio Players!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y47G-Wa4qfs
I don’t know that this really hurts Pawlenty though. He’s doing the “dance” where he can gain cred with the primary voters yet technically claim he didn’t “endorse” Ryan’s plan, merely said it was courageous of Ryan to have come out with one.
I dunno, not sure I see this as a big a blow to T-Paw as you do.
Still reccd though.
O/T
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WTF is going on with the spammers here lately??
Is this intentional?? Perhaps I shouldn’t be flagging them??
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Keep flagging them!
Shorter version?
The Republicans are koching on the tea party?
What’s the Heimlich maneuver for the koching attack? A deep internal invasion of an oil rich country?