Starting Monday I’ve been politicizing #Sandy. Specifically I tweeted.
I can almost hear in my head the right wing radio blowhards responding to this comment with their mocking strawman “The left want you to believe that WE are responsible for hurricane Sandy! Preposterous! It’s like when they blamed Bush for Katrina! My friends, these are “Acts of God! We had nothing to do with it!”
My second tweet was in response to their probably response:
Climate change is an Act of Humans and it contributed to #Sandy therefore #Sandy is no longer just an Act of God.
Monday, Maggie Koerth-Baker, the science writer at Boing Boing, wrote this wonderful post: Did climate change cause Hurricane Sandy? The answer depends on why you’re asking. It really is a brilliant piece and I encourage you to read it. It addresses the questions that many have as well as the innocent and not so innocent reasons people ask. (BTW Maggie owes me some Boing Boing swag for a contest I won, if you see her tell her I’m still waiting. Her excuse was she was busy with her book tour Before the Lights Go Out but it’s over now. P.S. I take an XL.)
Was this [hurricane Sandy] an unavoidable act of nature? Or was this something caused directly by changes to Earth’s climate that have happened because we burn fossil fuels which increase the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere?
Again, there’s not an easy answer. And, again, part of the problem here is that we’re expecting science to operate on the scale of American media news cycles, which doesn’t really work. We want to talk about this while the storm is raging or, barring that, at least immediately afterwards. But scientists aren’t really going to have anything particularly deep to say about this specific storm for months, if not years. During that time, data will be analyzed and compared, and other events will happen, and that’s really the stuff that we need in order to say much of anything other than, “We don’t know for certain.” In some ways, expecting anything else means forcing scientists to speculate and extrapolate in ways they aren’t usually comfortable with and that aren’t a terribly great way to understand the big picture.
[Emphasis mine because that is a really important insight.]
I was once explaining the American media to a Ph.D. in physics I was working with, he got very annoyed with the way the media worked. “But Spocko, in science things rarely are 100% certain, yes there is a high correlation of this cause with that effect, but it is only one factor in a complex system.” Another creator of high-end technology didn’t like the way his comments about scientific reality got twisted by his competition and picked up by the media. I helped them both find metaphors they felt comfortable with and then helped them switch to teaching mode to educate the different media outlets they were going to talk to. But they both wanted the media to be something it wasn’t and something they wished it was.
Later in Koerth-Baker’ s piece she quotes Greg Laden, an anthropologist who does some very good blogging on climate science, had a lot to say on this topic — particularly, the fact that even though we can’t say “Hurricane Sandy was caused solely by climate change”, we can say that climate change is probably affecting several factors that probably influence the development, growth, and movement of hurricanes.
She makes the case that weather is complex, “Hurricane Sandy could be both a completely natural occurrence and a product of climate change. Simultaneously. Some of the factors that caused this storm might be nature-made. Others might be man-made. And teasing apart which factors were responsible for which aspect of the storm’s damage is incredibly hard.”
So if scientists can’t tell you whether Sandy, specifically, was caused by climate change does that mean we just wait for the all the data to come out years from now? No. Because in the mean time the people who want to deny that climate change is real and impacts us will exploit anything less than 100% certainty. That’s what they do. That is their job. That is why they are getting paid millions.
If you knew that a group of people – through their attitudes, actions and policies, led to the death of someone you loved would you want to tell people about this group? Would you want to talk about them and what they are doing right now, when you are feeling the anger and pain of loss? Would you demand change? Or would you listen to the same group of people telling you, “Now is not the time for recrimination and blame.”
Anger can change the configuration of your thoughts. If moves people. It gets people to change their attitudes, actions and sometimes their politics. And if you are on the other side of righteous anger you will use all sorts of methods to calm the angry people down. Because angry people demand change.
One of the games the right plays is when something happens that they know could lead to change, “in the heat of the moment” they start screaming.”Let’s not politicize this tragedy!” I see it after every single mass shooting. Why do they do that? Does it really come from their deep feelings of respect for the family of the dead? I’m sure there are some who think this way. But I think it is more about using “respect for the family of the dead” as a shield to prevent change.
The other group of people who worry about talking about the root cause of some event are people who think that change happens only with reasoned debate “in the cold light of day.” They don’t want to be accused of exploiting the tragedy. They believe that it is distasteful and disrespectful or that it dishonors the death of the person. This works out great for the people who want the status quo to continue. Personally, if someone can use my death to make changes so others don’t die I say, “Do it! Make it so! Engage!”
So how can we actually politicize #Sandy? I’m starting by calling them out.
”Hey right wingers who deny climate change, blood from this storm is on your hands. This is not a simple “Act of God”. Men and woman who have your attitudes, have taken your actions and implemented your policies have led to this. Changes need to be made.
If you aren’t the kind of person who gets angry and makes demands for change there is still something you can do. Keep linking climate change to extreme weather events and specifically the human related actions that lead to it. Because as Maggie concludes, climate change is real and we need to care about it. I say, let’s do something about it.



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Of course Ol’ Spocko really wanted to post cute photos of kids and pets in costume instead of talking about serious stuff, so I compromised by posting it in the comments section. Here is my current favorite doggy costume video
Happy Halloween!
Well, the righties already claimed that Obama caused this hurricane to be more powerful by ordering the hurricane chasers to “seed it”. With what I don’t know, but that’s what they’re saying. Those brave souls who drive airplanes into the center of these whirling dervishes to gather the data that tells us exactly where they are going and how strong they are were also in there “doing something for the antichrist to make it stronger and more devastating so Obama could win the election”. Hmmph!
Save some anger for alleged liberals such as Obama.
Far too many people ignore Obama’s real environmental record of giving U.S. sovereignty to BP, delaying changes until after his first term where they can be cancelled by Obama or a like minded republican, cancelling air regulations which his own EPA agency said would kill 7,200 people annually, dramatically expanding nuclear, pipelines, and off shore drilling, extending – rhetoric notwithstanding – all fossil fuel subsidies, blowing up mountains while singing the praises of clean coal, etc. etc. etc. The White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, – which Obama completely controls – has weakened more than 80% of the rules proposed by the Environmental Protection Agency. DeChristopher, a whistle blower for an illegal sale of public lands to the fossil fuel industry, has been prosecuted and sentenced to two years by the Obama DOJ while everyone else who planned and executed the illegal action gets a pass. And don’t forget Obama’s role in sidetracking even thinking about any action on global warming until 2020 at the recent UN meeting in South Africa and abandoning all international efforts. It is hard to see how Romney could be worse.
See for more verification with 168 references (and counting!)Environment – http://newprogs.org/blog/2011/11/08/environment-under-democraticrepublican-uni-party
I forgot to say recommended and I agree with the author. http://my.firedoglake.com/gonpa/2012/10/30/sandy-and-global-warming/
Thanks! Saw your post. Nice.
Thanks for this, Spocko! Recc’d and tweeted.
Romneybush (Jebbie) poised to profiteer off privatizing disaster recovery. Because nothing says monster like the harmonic convergence of scions of the third base club.
Congrats, spocko…! Front-paged…! ;-)
Great post, Spocko!
As I watched the rescue and recovery going on today I reflected back on Katrina. The National Guard was already on the ground last night! I remember watching as New Orleans was left to drown for days. It re-enforced my belief that the people of New Orleans were left there to suffer on purpose. After all, that neglect changed LA from a blue to a red state. 80,000 people still have not come back home in seven years and it is not because they don’t want to.
Thanks! It’s a Halloween treat for me. I’m sitting here in my emergency gear jumpsuit in case we are hit by an earthquake.
I actually wrote most of it on Monday and my first draft was much more pissed off. If I had put it up on Monday it might have made me seem more prescient.
I have on my life preserver cause I live under a dam built by the corp.
I work with a great group Levees.org. And one thing that they do is make it clear that the disaster came from the failed levees. It was a man made disaster. One of the things that they do is remind people not to use “Katrina shorthand” by that I mean journalists who say the damage caused by Katrina instead of the damage cause by the flooding.
I knew that even if the wind and other damage caused by Sandy was less than what the flooding from the levees caused post Katrina the media would cover it HUGELY. Because many of them are their. They see New York as the center of the world.
In addition, the whole attitude that “they are on their own” was pushed by the Bush people. Obama isn’t doing that.
I know levees.org well. The levees failed because the corp built them wrong. They didn’t put the sheet piling down deep enough to go below the peat layer. The water went under the levees not over them. And they knew it, too.
Even though the flood in New Orleans was an engineering disaster, the MS gulf coast got the real brunt of the storm. Less people died there because there were less people there.
The Obama administration seems to being doing a very good job. A civilized job.
Thanks. As I said, my first version was more pissed off.
On the left we need to understand the power of emotion and use it to achieve our goals. The right is very comfortable using fear. They make it a point to scare us every chance they get. Because fear let’s them pass the patriot act. Fear funds wars, Nudie scanners and domestic spying programs.
Anger scares them. We even hint at doing something scary they are all over us like white on rice.
And as Anat Shenker-Osorio would tell us, it is useful to see the roles actual humans play in climate change. It’s not just nature. Real people have made decisions that keep coal fired plants burning instead of going with green solutions.
It goes back decades to when they blocked us from signing the Koyoto accords. Their new excuse, “Well there wasn’t anything we could do to stop this storm. Duh. But that doesn’t mean we don’t take actions that will lessen future tragedies.”
tweeted and recommended with thanks spocko. i hope you finally get that long overdue swag…
Which is much better than the “heck of a job Brownie” was doing.
Sandy Rosenthal is an amazing person. Here is a link to her talking about the Hurricane Sandy
I think I am having a smidge of ptsd tonight. Even though I wasn’t in New Orleans at the time of Katrina, my brother and sister were. My parents were visiting us. We yelled at the television for ten days. My parents lost their home. They haven’t really ever recovered.
Will we start to understand what is happening to us now???????
Me too. I won for creating a great question for an astronaut she was interviewing. Boing Boing is one of my favorite websites and Maggie’s work is really important. I’m often blown away (no pun intended) by the kind of things that scientists are working on and I know how frustrating it is for them to talk to people who don’t know their area pf expertise, but sometimes it is better to talk to people who are smart, but not experts because people in the field make assumptions that people know stuff that they really don’t or is really fascinating. The scientists I’ve worked with are sometimes too close to their own work to understand how impressive it is. Other times they think the public would be wowed by something they like. One of the thing I do is to either help them explain why this seemingly minor thing is a Big Fraking Deal or to help them correct myths that are spread by misunderstandings.
What drove me nuts were all the people bring up stuff like, ‘Why did they build the city under sea level?” and “Why should we rebuild it?” Looking at New Orleans as nothing more than a tourist attraction.
What did/does it say about us as a people that we let it happen and haven fixed the attitudes and problems that is showed us. I was watching Treme last night where they talk about the grifters coming in to scam money and the way the the schools were destroyed and never rebuild.
I guess New Orleans children aren’t worthy.
Yo, Spocko – I know what you’re trying to say here:
…but I think it needs some editing. We WANT to block policies that LEAD to climate change, right?
I don’t recall the Clinton or Obama administrations doing much to counter global warming, nor the Democrats in Congress.
This is how politics works. There are moneyed interests in maintaining the status quo: the fossil fuels industries. There is no countervailing, big-money lobby pushing a reduction in greenhouse gases, even though we all will pay the price for doing nothing.
A lot of New Orleans is not under sea level. As you probably know, the wetlands used to protect it but they have been so eroded by -wait for it- the forkin’ oil industry that New Orleans is still in jeopardy.
The school system has be turned into that charter bullshit.
Yes. And in the absence of a big-money lobby pushing a reduction in greenhouse gases you have a pissed off public. And your pissed off public can say, “I’m not going to believe your lies anymore because this shit happened to me, personally. It’s not an abstract concept that might happen 10 years in the future.”
The big money interests like to work the smallest group possible that they can have control over. Convincing millions is harder than convincing 1000 or so politicians who need money to get re-elected.
I’ve said before that lobbying is one of the most powerful forces in the Universe. If we can’t provide 5,000 a plate fundraisers what can we do? Make it so obvious to everyone that the people buying those rubber chickens dinners are working to thwart the will of the people.
Personally I’d like to find other methods to block big money interests, methods that give us leverage. The problem is that the laws that exist are hard to enforce. But remember, Tom Delay is no longer speaker.
Yeah, I know. Do you suppose the same jolly jokers who were saying, “Why should we rebuild New Orleans” will be saying the same about New York?
“They shouldn’t be living on an Island that could get flooded!”
Asshats, all of them.
Since it is Halloween I guess it is appropriate to bring up Delay.
Shudder.
Wow, I just saw this in the photostream from the NYFD
Destruction from Hurricane Sandy, Breezy Point Queens.
Will all the jolly jokers burning up Fossil Fuels for their SUVs care?
No. But we know that had a hand in it.
The Bug Man Cometh!
The last time I heard him on the radio he was going on and on about how the left has this huge infrastructure funded by George Soros and people needed to give him money to counter act it.
Hilarious.
This was before most people knew about the Koch Brothers. Of course the people at Fox think that the only ‘political” billionaire is Soros and he is on the left. The reality is that he is outspent 39 to one.
(This is based on things like funding of right wing think tanks and other groups)
I thought it was The Gays that caused Sandy!!????!
Now I’m totally confused about the climate.
All this time I thought it was The Gays that couldn’t get over their Disco Fever and were so flaming they self-ignited, and Earth’s temperature is rising…barometer’s getting low..
The science geek in me (I’m not an actual scientist, but I’d love to play one on TV) disagrees with you. But the rest of me is saying yes, absolutely.
I have no evidence to back this up, but I’m convinced that the attitude of the non-wingnut public is changing on climate change. The extreme weather events are coming too fast and furious to be ignored.
I say blast them (the wingnuts) for being the dangerous kooks they are on this topic. The professional deniers count on doubt. And the doubt is only possible when everyday folks think loud Uncle Fred who watches Fox News all day might just have a kernel of truth in what he’s saying. He doesn’t and the doubt can’t take hold if you can hammer home the idea that Uncle Fred is just plain whacked out when it comes to this subject.
The public will probably at some point see past all the global warming denial that has been so successful till now. Whether that results in effective action or token measures is another thing, but I’d bet on token measures in the short run. I do fault the Republican party for making global warming denial their official party position.
Just don’t blame it on Snooki.
My two cents: we are all responsible to a degree, because our increasing demand for cheap energy is driving the corporations-governments that promote its extraction and burning. So, in addition to advocating a more enlightened energy policy, we as individuals must make changes and sacrifices to reduce our carbon footprints. I have done so dramatically by riding a bicycle not driving a car, not watching TV, not buying products nonessential to my survival (incl. no frozen prepared foods), recycling and reusing, using minimal electricity, etc. If we all did this kind of conservation, the demand would diminish enormously. Then we could claim the title of “conservative”! Or not.
Bwa ha ha ha!
Excellent and thank you!
Okay, I’ll bite – the politicization of Sandy:
I am edified that so many express sympathy and concern about the destructive consequences of this nasty and uncontrollable event, served up by mother nature.
I am chagrined that so many pull out the pom-poms and wrap themselves in flags when the destructive and fully intended consequences of our murderous pax americana is served up by a so-called “progressive Democratic Administration.
Billions will be spent to reconstruct the homeland, much of which will end up as profit for the thieving masters of “disaster capitalism.”
Trillions have already been spent/wasted deconstructing the homelands (and destroying the lives) of millions of innocent people caught in the vortex of a preposterous, man-made war-on-terror, much of which will end up as profit for the thieving masters of “disaster capitalism.”
What’s wrong with this picture?
Great post , I especially like the anger angle to motivate people to demand change .
This morning I was reading an article on bloomberg business week and this quote from Eric Pooley, senior vice president of the Environmental Defense Fund and former deputy editor of Bloomberg Businessweek popped out. I think it’s the single best response in a few words I have yet heard to the climate deniers.
“We can’t say that steroids caused any one home run by Barry Bonds, but steroids sure helped him hit more and hit them farther. Now we have weather on steroids.”
AS you discussed the reality of media I think it is important to glean what we can from it’s inner workings in order to sharpen our delivery to the public.
Catchy one liners are what the public is used to from the corporate news folks ,so I recommend we come up with a few good slogans suited to the attention spans.
Perhaps the denialists take the Leon Panetta approach — don’t commit resources until the picture is crystal clear.
For more verification with many references and organizations see http://treealerts.org/region/north-america/2012/11/climate-change-discussion-front-and-center-in-sandys-wake/
Thanks! Fixed.