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Will Your Son Grow Up to be a Winner like Zimmerman or a Loser like Trayvon?

7:30 pm in Uncategorized by spocko

On the heels of the “Zimmerman destroys wife’s iPad in a fit of rage,” story I got this letter from the founder of the United States Concealed Carry Association. What I really love about this letter is the way the author correlates what his son did with the SYG concept. He also uses the whole father/son pride/disappointment and bully/victim construct to pluck at the heart strings and open the wallets.

The formatting and bolding are his own.

It starts:

I’m a proud parent…

When my son was in 4th grade, the 5th grade bully started picking
on him at recess.

So he took matters into his own hands…

Now, most parents these days would hear that my son defended himself rather than “telling the teacher,” and they would likely

But THIS is why I’m proud:

Since the boy didn’t tell the teachers the whole story comes from the 4th grader. I wonder what the school had to say about this “bully” and his son? How do we know that the 5th grader was the bully and not his son? We can’t verify any of this. But we do know what Dad’s first positive message was to his son, “I’m glad you didn’t tell your teacher.” Unsaid is a dislike of talking vs. hitting.

Next line:

He evaded the bully. He told the bully to stop.

He went so far as to swallow his pride and try to run away.

Note how he starts with the “retreating/evading” part and then the “I asked him to stop” part. He dismisses as ineffective the “duty to retreat” and/or discussing the issue rationally–like the teachers would probably make him do. But the critical line here is, “He swallowed his pride.” Tim Schmitz Sr.’s message to his readers is, “If you are armed, you won’t ever have to “swallow your pride” especially in the face of bullies.”

For people who feel like they are under siege all the time, or who think they are the victim or who believe that the world is a dangerous place (both in reality and in their imagination) this concept, “Don’t swallow your pride” resonates. It’s all about “honor” and “manhood” because winning by talking doesn’t count. He follows up with the perfunctory, “Hey, my son even did the wimpy “run away” thing and tried to retreat, but he just couldn’t…”

Next line:

But when the bully pushed him to his limit, and Tim Jr. couldn’t
escape, he struck back as ferociously as necessary to ensure the
bully would never mess with him again.

Hulk smash! Note his emphasis, he struck back as ferociously as necessary. Now who decides how much force is necessary to ensure the bully would never mess with him again? What level of damage would it take? A black eye? Broken nose? Unconsciousness? Death? Heck, if the bully is living he could mess with him again. But as an adult you don’t have to guess what it will take. Do you want someone to stop messing with you? Shoot ‘em! Take ‘em out! Let ‘em take a dirt nap. It’s legal! Here’s the wording from Florida’s SYG law. Emphasis mine:

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Trayvon’s Mom and My Mom on Protecting Their Kids (Video)

10:43 am in Uncategorized by spocko

My mom died this month last year. This will be my first Mother’s Day without her.

Sybrina Fulton Trayvon Mom Video screen grab

When I was a little Vulcan going off to school my mother’s last words were always, “Watch out for the cars!”  I could see cars and avoid them if I was watching and paying attention.

I wonder what the last words Sybrina Fulton said to Travyon? What could she have said? “Watch out for concealed weapons?”

Below is a video message from Trayvon Martin’s mother urging people to contact their governor to re-examine laws similar to Florida’s “Kill at Will” laws (which the NRA calls “Stand your Ground” laws). The video was put out by my friends at the Second Chance Campaign.

The effort is to re-examine the laws. But I also would like to think that this is a chance to  re-examining our attitudes.  Think about how attitudes toward drunk driving changed following Mothers Against Drunk Driving Campaign? Or how the attitudes toward smoking have changed? They both faced huge societal barriers as well as entrenched economic interests. But they did change.

I’ve been thinking about what it would take to change attitudes and then to change laws.  Often I think after the most recent mass shooting that surely THIS event would be the tipping point for attitudes to change.  Yet powerful forces push the fear button hard to stop any change, even a return laws that were accepted and that didn’t need an expansion. (The castle doctrine is long established and worked fine, it’s the new “Kill at Will” laws that effectively turn an entire state into your castle.  But it’s my state too and my rights to Life and Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness outside of my home need to count too.)

Speaking of attitudes that make responsible gun owners look like jerks, check out the Trayvon Martin targets for shooting practice.. “Be sure to hit the center of mass because you don’t want him survivin’ to tell his side of the story.” Here

Full Trayvon Gun Target

I often read about gun enthusiasts and how they can be mobilized at a moment’s notice on social media, phone calls and letters to support their views. I wondered, what is the equivalent on my side? It’s not just people against something, we are also FOR something. What is that? Public safety? Life?

Perhaps we are developing, “public safety enthusiasts.”  We are composed of people who have been impacted by gun violence, but other kinds of laws that make us unsafe too. That way when we are accused of wanted to ban all guns, with the standard comeback “The gun is just a tool, what if there is a car accident, do you want to ban all cars?” we can respond, “We are for the safe use of all tools by the people operating them. We are for laws that makes everyone safer, not just one at the expense of others. Are you for the unsafe use of your tools? Are you for laws that make everyone unsafe? And if you are for the unsafe use of your tools and for laws where more people are unsafe, then you are outside of the norm for the majority of gun enthusiasts.”

I have two good friends who are gun enthusiasts. They are for the safe use of their tools. They are for laws that make everyone safer.The disdain that I see from them toward people who are unsafe and untrained with any tool is very strong.  When it comes to a tool that can deliver rapid death at a distance they are even more concerned for safety and training.

When I suggest that we fix laws to raise the bar on safety training and handling for getting CCW permits they are all for it. They have seen people who have no business carrying guns get permits in a state with weak requirements and then bring it to their state where they have to spend time and effort to train. It’s unfair to them and their training and the potential for negligent gun incidents goes up as training requirements go down.

They can’t say, “Watch out for these people who got their permits in Florida!” because they can’t see them.  But what they can do is take this attitude about lax permit requirements and overly broad laws and translate them to action.

What kind of action? Well the video above is about contacting your governor. When the governor hears from public safety enthusiasts on this they can know they have support for doing things like what New Mexico did on May 1st, which was to only accept CCW from just six other states that meet all of New Mexico’s requirements for reciprocity. Previously they recognized a total of 19 states’ concealed-carry permits.

This mother’s day I will be without my mom, but I’ll still, “Watch out for the cars.” when I go outside of my home.

I can’t know what Sybrina Fulton must be feeling this Sunday, but when I translate my own sense of loss into positive action  it helps. Maybe you will do the same.

May many more children Live Long and Prosper,


by spocko

Why is Nobody Talking about the Good killings The “Shoot First” Law Encourages?

3:08 pm in Uncategorized by spocko

Yesterday I saw a photo stating, “84, 499, 989 Firearm owners killed no one yesterday.”

I thought that was an excellent point. Why focus on the 11 people firearm owners did kill yesterday? I’m such a negative thinker.  So I started thinking, “If I was the gun lobby, or ALEC- their legislation vendor –how would I put a better spin on the Trayvon Martin shooting.”  Here are some of my totally fabricated parody stories and ideas:

“Why is nobody talking about the GOOD killings the ‘Shoot First’ law encourages?“-

A lament from ALEC member Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker

“Everyone is looking at the one bad example of the law being used, but hundreds of people have used it to successful get rid of that annoying neighbor or rival drug dealer. That’s a big plus for any community. The prisons don’t get filled up either, that’s a win-win for a cash strapped state.

The down side? “I do have to remember to slowly take out my cell phone in public.”

Asked about future plans to extend “Shoot First” laws into Government buildings the Gov. hedged, “I have no plans to change the law that bans guns  at the Capitol building or to remove the metal detectors and full-time security guards where I’m at most of the time. My hands are tied when it comes to changing laws protecting me. If I did, my wife would kill me.” He then quickly added, “I mean she would be mad at me. She really wouldn’t kill me, kill me, or shoot me, shoot me–especially since I don’t let her have a gun, I mean what with the way we argue…” he trailed off.

“How will this shooting increase gun sales?”

An NRA super lobbyist perspective on the George Zimmerman witch hunt, by Marion Hammer

“How will this shooting increase gun sales”, was my first thought. said super-NRA lobbyist Marion Hammer upon hearing of the shooting of Trayvon Martin shooting. “I’m color blind, except to green. The roles could have been reversed as far as I’m concerned, my next question was, “Was the shooter using a lightweight Kel-Tec 9mm or the heavier more expensive Glock? Is he a lifetime member or just a yearly member of the NRA? How many ‘safety’ classes have we sold him?”

“How To Legally Kill Your Annoying Neighbor In 32 States!*

A How To Guide.

Future joint ALEC/NRA Seminar: “How to Get Away With Murder. Legally” – The George Zimmerman Story. How to use language, the law and dress to avoid suspicion and prosecution.

    • The 3 Things you Must Know before talking to the police.Use the same language the police use for a “good shoot”
      “He angrily reached into his pocket…
      “I felt threatened for my life. I had no duty to retreat. It was my right to stand my ground.
      “This is a defensive wound…”
  • Know your real Weapon — The Law!
  • Why You MUST shoot to Kill – (Avoiding the, “His Word Against Mine” problem)
    • What makes you a law-abiding citizen shooter outside your home, vs. a law-breaking hood you might encounter? The surprising answer!
  • Clothing to wear outside your home while preparing to Defend your Ground
    -Avoid “ethnic” clothing, “bling,” hoodies, baggy pants
    -Pro-tip: Observe what off-duty cops wear and copy them
    -How to look like a banker out walking, not a gangster out robbing
  • Why it’s better to be wrong than dead by shooting first in the following states.

Twenty-five states, including Florida, have “Stand Your Ground” laws, containing provisions that generally allow the use of deadly force in self-defense with no duty to retreat when outside the home. The twenty-five states with these laws are:

Alabama Louisiana South Carolina
Arizona Michigan South Dakota
Florida Mississippi Tennessee
Georgia Montana Texas
Idaho Nevada Utah
Illinois New Hampshire Washington
Indiana North Carolina West Virginia
Kansas Oklahoma
Kentucky Oregon


Another seven states have limited “Stand Your Ground” laws that extend to specific locations outside the home, including a vehicle or place of business or employment. These laws, however, are not as broad as the Florida law:

Alaska Iowa Pennsylvania
Connecticut Missouri
Hawaii North Dakota

Other States Are Considering “Stand Your Ground” Legislation

In 2012, legislation is or was pending in six states (Alaska, Iowa, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska and New York) that would eliminate the duty to retreat outside of the home. The Iowa bill has already been passed by the House of Representatives; the Minnesota bill was vetoed.

Three additional states (Indiana, New Jersey, and Oklahoma) considered related legislation this year. The Indiana legislation, which has been signed into law, allows the use of force to resist law enforcement’s entry into one’s home.

* Source of list of states, Legal Community Against Violence

Of course Gov. Scott Walker NEVER said these things. They are totally a function of my overactive mind. However I will point out that Walker is a member of ALEC and did sign the Shoot First law.  And Marion Hammer NEVER said those things. However she does get $190,000 a year from the NRA and in 1996, Hammer told the New York Times that the solution to ending the gun control debate in the United States was to “get rid of all Liberals.”

Have a safe weekend. Hopefully you won’t be one of the 22 dead.