So, Evan Bayh reached out to Uncle Howard Fineman (in Argentina!) to correct several media myths about his retirement, and Uncle Howard obliged:
Here’s the gist of his media beef: He thinks the big, mean, lefty blogosphere is unfairly painting him as a bad guy.
First of all, Democratic party leadership — in the White House and the Senate — shouldn’t have been surprised by Evan’s retirement from his relatively safe Indiana Senate seat, formerly occupied by his dad. Apparently, he’s been whining about his unhappiness to Harry Reid and Barack Obama for a while. And it’s not his fault they didn’t listen:
He insisted that, for some time, he had been expressing doubts behind very closed doors to the president and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
“I shared my doubts and concerns with Harry a year ago,” Bayh told me. “And the president and I have been talking about this for months,” he added.
“I might have made the decision earlier had the president not asked me to reconsider. Which I did. As for the exact timing — well, it’s hard to make a decision until there’s a deadline, and I didn’t face one until just the other day.”
Anyone who’s listened to Evan Bayh drone on, though, will instantly sympathize with both Reid and Obama — imagine having to hear these complaints endlessly while the speaker simultaneously does all he can to block the President’s agenda. My reaction would be: "So, go already!"
Further inflating the role of lefty bloggers’ opinions in his decision to leave his likely-safe Senate seat, Evan wants Uncle Howard to know he doesn’t hate:
In particular, he’s got a problem with two of the tales being told. First, that he was out to get the party and the president. And second, that according to an anonymous quote making the rounds, he “hates” the netroots sites that crusaded against the war in Iraq and for Obama.
“I didn’t say that and I don’t hate them. I’m not a guy who hates,” contended Bayh.
The bloggers, he said, will like his blistering criticism of filibuster abuses — and they will like more of what he says in coming months about ways to reform a broken political system.
Evan also says something that sounds more like a threat than a promise, though. It must have pleased Bayh Official Stenographer Fineman to know this:
“You should assume that this is not the last chapter in my career in public service,” he said.
Finally, we learn that Wellpoint Board Member and health-insurance-money-grubber Susan Bayh is very worried about where her hubby will end up, doubtless because his public service has had a pretty direct impact on her attractiveness for these positions:
“It’s just that, right now, I have no idea what I am going to do. My wife told me she’d really like to know.”
I wouldn’t want Evan moping around the house, either. And goodness only knows, Susan’s worth to Wellpoint may go way down when Evan leaves office, so better keep him somewhere in the public eye. A desire Susan may share, incidentally, with the family stenographer, Uncle Howard.



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I hope Uncle Howard is enjoying his hike on the Appalachian Trail. Long way to go for media redemption, Evan. This byline implies to me that no seriously unbiased media representative wants to listen to the Bayh family’s self-justifications any more. So Evan had to go all the way to hiker Howard.
HAH!! Something happened. Something we may not ever have fully disclosed to us, but something happened.
How the hell does a wife not know what her spouse’s next move is going to be, career-wise?
Oh I do hope that mean old lefty blogosphere looks under all the rocks for his next career move — or whatever happened to his marriage to keep him from telling his wife what’s going on.
Good ‘un, Teddy!
Has he been talking to Mark Sanford about cool clubs to Minister too/Pick up hot latinas? Does Evan even speak spanish is this trip business or pleasure?
Nate Silver today DESTROYED Firedoglake. Nate makes the argument that Firedoglake is not to be trusted because the wording in its polls suck.
Silver is a great expert with much more knowledge than Jane Hamsher and the so-called emptywheel. I’m with Nate. By the way, Nate is one of the 100 greatest people in the nation according to Time Magazine. http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1894410_1893209_1893477,00.html
Next time, just present your links and your opinion in a normal tone of voice. No need to hyperventilate. And keep your eyes on this site, as no doubt Jane will respond, and then you can deliberate which you find more credible. Curious that you should be so certain before you see the response. Wouldn’t want you on a jury.
And there is some reason anyone should care who you are with?
No. Nate Silver tried mightily to claim that FDL’s polling was bad but he had to admit it was only his biases.
And somehow, a Time Magazine declaration is not one I found particularly compelling.
Yes, that’s a curious response from Susan. Time will tell.
The comments there are fun to read.
“Susan Bayh is very worried about where her hubby will end up, doubtless because his public service has had a pretty direct impact on her attractiveness for these positions”
Well said.
I’m thinking Evan is leaving because he knows he can’t win without our votes and the Secret Dem polls show in a state as red as his a 1% drop in Lefty Blogger turnout could crush him.
Our influence on elections ironically seems to be increased in swing districts.
I’ll let the pollsters debate this one but I doubt Jane intentionally put in a bad or fixed poll.
has bayh been taking strategery lessons from The Quitter? How can we miss him if he hasn’t gone away?
(yes, I don’t he didn’t quit per se, but still, long farewells make me vomit.)
I don’t buy that the wife doesn’t know what he’s going to do. They are just not ready to say.
how exciting for you. Are you going to post this on every thread that doesn’t pertain to HCR?
The filibuster is to blame and not one of the guys who threatened No votes all the time on legislation we wanted?
Evan your not Ron Paul we won’t even walk a little with you.
Kumbayhya.
I think we should take a poll on whether or not it’s a valid poll.
Jane can comment as appropriate. In the meantime, who do you work for, exactly?
Is his wife with him in Argentina? Because if she is not she might want to get some divorce papers ready. Why I’m sure the Argentine press is following every American Politician around after Mark Sanford.
drive by
with apologies to the poet; nothing became bayh so much in politics as his leaving of it.
good riddance.
that he can complain about not getting things done, when he was one of the big speed bumps….words fail.
we have talked this one to death.
if the netroots contributed something to his departure, then we have done some good. touting and standing up for the gift and estate tax fix in the jobs bill epitomizes this man and his priorities.
Has he not read or understood this:
February 18, 2010
Top-Earning U.S. Households Averaged $345 Million in ’07
By BLOOMBERG NEWS
The 400 highest-earning households in the United States made nearly $345 million in 2007, up 31 percent from a year earlier, data from the Internal Revenue Service shows.
The figures for 2007, the last year of an economic expansion, show that average income reported by the top 400 earners more than doubled from $131.1 million in 2001. That year, Congress adopted tax cuts proposed by George W. Bush. Democrats say those cuts disproportionately benefit the wealthy.
Each of the top 400 earning households paid an average tax rate of 16.6 percent, the lowest since the I.R.S. began tracking the data in 1992, the statistics show. Their average effective tax rate was about half the 29.4 percent in 1993, the first year of the Clinton administration, when taxes were increased.
The statistics underscore “two long-term trends: that income at the very top has exploded and their taxes have been cut dramatically,” said Chuck Marr, director of federal tax policy at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a Washington research group that supports increasing taxes on high-income people.
Funny :)
Natch.
I will check again but I do not see Nate’s name among The Best Liberal Journalists. Guess who is.
“the speaker simultaneously does all he can to block the President’s agenda.”
Thanks for this piece. Bayh is beginning to get interesting. Is it possible that he is not totally predictable?
But do you really believe that Harry has been working against Obama? Did I read that right?
I think he’s going to run for governor. The missus probably read Jenny Sanford’s book and found out that you can get prison inmates to do all your household work for you…..free of charge. They’ll clean, garden, take care of the dogs, wash your car etc. Plus, you get to fly anywhere you want, anytime you want. All free of charge. And then the Gov can write a book extolling the virtues of living within our means.
To keep the Lake from being in violation of the copyright laws post a short paragraph or 2 at most and provide a link.
He went to Argentina now unless he’s already lined up a job as a lobbyist for the beef industry just what is he doing there? Wait his wife does not know what his next career move is.
So unless Evan speaks Spanish and loves Spanish Music and food why is he in Argentina? Indiana is not exactly a place known for its Hispanic Culture.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-02-17/the-lefts-top-25-journalists/?cid=hp:exc
Nate Silver, not so much.
I love these drive-by trolls.
BTW, anyone feel like we’re being punked with this new interest in the Public Option. I already got a fund raising letter from Schumer. Wrote back that I’ll donate if he’s successful.
fineman was the one in argentina
What’s everyone talking about? Bayh’s in Argentina?
from the top of the post
Agreed. OR, he didn’t get something he wanted…like the VP spot in ’12 or a lobbyist contract went sour. I bet it has to do with MONEY!
Unless it really was a “DON’T CRY FOR ME ARGENTIA” moment as Things has suggested.
To be fair, Fineman did call BS on Bayh’s claim that he’s tight with Obama.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-02-17/the-lefts-top-25-journalists/?cid=hp:exc#gallery=1336;page=9
Nice catch Frank33
Wasn’t it bizarre how she was rubbing her son’s arm during the bye-bayh?
People, gah!, please read the article. Bayh was in the USofA and went to the trouble to call Howard Fineman who was on vacation in Argentina. Gah!
Yes a strange place for a man who just quit his job to vacation or look for work.
Ok totally my bad.
Still whats Howard Fineman doing there? GOPers don’t like Brown countries unless there are there for the women and or to organize death squads.
It is very hard to see a political writer’s byline from Argentina without giggling nowadays.
This is OUR money. We need to get it back.
Where do you get that he’s gooper?
“The speaker” being Evan Bayh in this case, speaking as he claimed to be to Obama and Reid.
Bayh is a self-important, narcissistic egomaniac who only cares about himself.
Bayh and Lieberman sittin’ in a tree
K-I-S-S-I-N-G
First come War
Then comes Pharma
And The Average Citizen
Can Suck On Fumes
A Hearty F*ck You to Evan Bayh.
Does Indiana not have governor term limits? Evan’s served two already as governor, but perhaps their term limits (like California’s for Jerry Brown) post-date his service.
Fineman is in Argentina, not Bayh.
What deadline does he mean? Any educated guesses? My guess is the 39% increase in healthcare premiums announced in California yesterday. His deadline was the public connecting two and two (his wife and the money they stand to make if health care reform fails). I wonder if he was not warned that Obama was going to make an example out of him very soon, so he quit.
Not sure, but he made a point of saying that he’s more suited to executive positions. And I don’t think he was talking about the presidency.
Several people here did think he was talking about prez. But who knows.
Wow, I thought this post was totally clear, but there seems to be quite a bit of it misunderstood. To recap:
1. Evan Bayh was not in Argentina, Howard Fineman was.
2. Howard Fineman describes his location as “a vacation spot in the Andes” so I presume he’s on vacation, but summonable to his steno pad by family friends.
3. This post has nothing to do with Nate Silver.
I think he was referring to Tuesday’s Indiana deadline for filing petitions to get on the ballot. Presumably he had them in hand (maybe not, though, there seems to be lots of activity behind the scenes) and had to decide whether to file them by Tuesday noon.
Or maybe he was referring to some unknown deadline, like PhRMA’s application for a new President to replace the current (criminal) Billy Tauzin. I speculated earlier that Evan’s decision (which he announced to his senior staff last Friday) seemed oddly timed right after Billy’s retirement announcement.
Newsweek’s Howard Fineman thinks he knows who the de facto head of the GOP is: it’s Roger Ailes. Fineman, an MSNBC political anaylst, knows Ailes. Ailes “counseled” him before he signed up with MSNBC, “so consider this an assessment penned by a frenemy,” Fineman writes.
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/why_god_created_roger_ailes_by_howard_fineman_149194.asp
My bold Tell Me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are. Plus he is one of the MSM talking heads we like to tear apart in the mornings sometimes.
sheesh, I can’t tell which is more exciting, Denmark V Us Women’s curling or “where in the world is Carmen Fineman”!
I know now. sorry
lol. Thank you. It seems we’re seriously off our game tonight.
Doesn’t the senate have rules about how soon senators can change jersey’s? Didn’t Tausin or some other scumbag retire right before those rules went into effect?
I have plenty of right wing friends, so what?
Gee thanks. Sorry.
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/why_god_created_roger_ailes_by_howard_fineman_149194.asp
Alies coverage of issues has made the GOP less popular than the party in power with 10% unemployment for months now. I don’t think such a thing has ever happened in American politics.
Any real political reporter not in the tank for the GOP would be mentioning this.
Yep, those two items combine to make a deadline.
He wants to pass off a job making $2.5 million/year (what Tauzin makes) as a public service.
It was much more fun when Bayh was in Argentina. Spoil sport.
Yeah so do I but do you have any friends as evil and as lying as Alies?
I thought Howard Fineman was hanging out with a troll over at Nate Silver’s place in Buenos Aires.
Whats racist not racist about pick up trucks I used to have one.
Suddenly it’s all clear.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/01/top10_2001_39.html
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Teddy Partridge and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Great post Citizen Partridge, I am curious about what little Evan’s move portends for the immediate future of the corporatists. If ya look at Orrin Hatch gettin heckled at a town hall in Utah…IN UTAH for Smith’s sake…and Moosegirl tryin’ ta haul the Tea Party lunatics back to the pasture of the GOP and CPAC tryin’ ta lock down the racist vote. I’m thinkin’ that this November might just be better for the Democrats than folks are tryin’ ta make out, if the Democratic leadership startin’ in the White House doesn’t snatch defeat from the jaws of victory here.
The corporate media and the corporatist politicians are gunna feed off each other but unless the Democrats start doubtin their own eyes there seems to be an opening here and I think Brother Bernie Sanders is right…healthcare reconcilliation could include jobs, economic development and energy all rolled around each other because it’s only Democrats negotiating with themselves here and they’re good at that!
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THERE IS NO COMPROMISING WITH FASCISTS!!
Interesting Why?
What are they gonna do, ban him from the Senate gym? Of course they have rules, but he’ll just say he’s ‘not lobbying’ like Tom Daschle and all the others do.
These ethics rules are made to be gotten around.
No no — it’s okay, clearly I was, um, unclear. No need to apologize on your part. If you read it that way, others did as well, and I am happy to have the chance(s) to clarify.
I feel like I need a Bart Simpson moment at the blackboard:
I will not press “Publish” until I spend five minutes away from the keyboard”
Oh, yeah, they all view lobbying and repping corporations as a different kind of public service. Eliminates the middle man, that pesky voter.
Hatch has been Utah’s fair haired Rethug boy in the Senate forevah. Being heckled in his home state had to be quite the moment.
Every time I ask Hatch about the heckling on his Facebook page, he deletes my comments. Not the same approach as David Vitter, who simply banned me for asking about prostitutes and diapers one too many times.
I heard on a liberal talk show that we can expect Bayh to go back home to Indiana, run for the govenorship, and position himself for a run for the White House. Ambition much?
And HOW much stock does his wife own in health insurance companies?
“Here’s the gist of his media beef: He thinks the big, mean, lefty blogosphere is unfairly painting him as a bad guy.”
Bayh did it all by himself by timing his announcement so that there couldn’t be a primary and instead just having party bosses selecting the candidate. This guy who complains about Senate dysfunctionality didn’t even bother to call Reid beforehand to let him know – I can’t stand Reid, but Bayh has shown himself to be a complete jerk.
He thinks it’s bad now, wait until he decides to run for office again. Hey, Evan, can you spell “quitter?” It’s P-a-l-i-n.
Wow! Some feeling of entitlement… and the only way he can express it is passive-aggressively.
You can never have to many prostitutes or diapers. Just how does his wife walk in public all the suburban ladies must snicker, wait sorry thats not fair her husband pays women to put him in diapers everybody men, women, kids laugh at his wife openly.
Not because they are mean but because they can’t help it.
I believe the Dem leadership has worked very well together, though their institutions each has different ideas of how to work and what kind of product to produce.
I’ll bet he didn’t tell Indianans he was better suited to executive positions when he was campaigning to become their senator.
If I hadn’t read articles about this stuff a long time ago I would think you were a teenage punk graffiti artist with no taste. But, since the things they’ve done has been vetted by our MSM it’s just a hoot.
LOL
I have teabagger friends in Utah. They hate Hatch and want to take him out.
Millions of dollars in income alone over the past five years, as a director, let alone her stock ownership, and from having no insurance experience when first appointed to the board of Wellpoint.
He is terribly entitled, having stepped into his hallowed father’s seat in the United States Senate. Never lost an election. There’s some serious entitlement thinking there.
I bet not.
You know that is pretty prescient given that a year ago the new Congress had just been in session a month.
Nate is right about importance of poll question flow and wording – but he is wrong about anything being known that suggests Jane’s polls by SurveyUSA are not as accurate as any other polls out there.
Curious comment to make by Nate – curious that Finemen wrote while on vacation – curious that there is a WH (it has to be Obama) attack on Jane – why the need to pretend – to be seen as all is well and we love his sell out to the corporations?
Hmmm… could it be connected to the actual thread topic? Rahmbots getting marching orders against the left (I mean, more so than usual) because of an expected public backlash against our corporate sellout senators?
he was talking about the deadline for candidates to sign up for his office but he really didn’t want to do it too early so the Repugs wouldn’t get anyone any good (Pence rejected running as he though Bayh was too strong) and the Ind. Dems could take their time to find someone good but the only Dems we have in Ind. are just like Bayh–conservadems.
Doesn’t actually rule out that I am a (virtual) teenage grafitti artist with no taste, but it pleases me no end that someone on Vitter’s staff (if not actually Vitter himself) had to take affirmative action to actually ban me from commenting on his FB because of my relentless commentary on all of his status updates.
I would imagine that the prospect of a filibuster-proof Senate (which Democrats actually did not achieve until the Franken swearing-in in July) was pretty concerning to Evan Bayh.
Except for John Cougar Mellencamp who was, I was pleased to notice, being pushed on Countdown tonight by a Hill journalist and former staffer to Birch Bayh. I thought that boded well for that effort.
Hmmm… when the Dem IN-Sen candidate is announced I’d expect a “the left is a security threat” line of BS from idiot Rahm.
“Huh?” you say, “When did we regress back to that crap?”
I live in IN-08 and we’re looking at Blue Dog Ellsworth being anointed the Dem Senate candidate and while the common line is that he’s little better than Bayh, believe me he’s actually just as bad in his own way.
And while at the moment he’s all about the jobs… in his background he’s got the “security state as law enforcement” thing going to the point where it seems that he’d rather be living in 1984 than in 2010 and he cheerfully lies his ass off about his voting intentions on such for our own good. (he hadn’t quite picked up yet on how rapidly such info spreads nowadays)
Just a thought…
Brad Ellsworth will not be approved unanimously by the Indiana Democratic State Central Committee, as the Stonewall Democrats have a seat on that body that will choose the nominee. Ellsworth voted against hate crimes bill, and also voted to return ENDA to committee last year although he then voted for the bill. He has not signed on as an ENDA co-sponsor and is not a co-sponsor nor has taken a position of repeal of DADT.
Democratic officeholders and aspirants to higher office, no matter how conservative a state they come from, should uphold the value of equality for all. Ellsworth clearly does not.
Despite Indiana’s conservatism, Evan Bayh has a 90% rating from the Human Rights Campaign. Richard Lugar has a 60% rating. Ellsworth has a 30% rating, one of the worst Democrats in the House. He shouldn’t be promoted to be a Senate candidate.
Evan Byah is a whiny, gutless jerk that has been living off his dad’s coat tales since he first got elected. He is also a spineless legislator that can take a bribe with the best of them.
I heard David Gergen defending this human waste on CNN a couple of nights ago and it was enough to make a whole room sick. One has to wonder if Bayh was paying him to say this spew… It was awful.
Bayh will probably re-appear within months as a highly-paid lobbyist for some multi-layer financial services firm or some Insurance conglomerate and NOTHING will be different. Just the payments will be by check instead of $100 bills in a brown envelope.
Howard Fineman is a real status quo pampered and priviledged inside the beltway jag-off.
Is Fineman in Argentina with Terry Sanford for a 3 way? Nothing these pricks do should surprise anyone.
It’s never occurred to Bayh to do what’s right until he’s a lame duck? OK, progress will take whatever votes he deigns to give on his way out, but I hope he doesn’t expect the blogosphere to forget his entire pathetic and corrupt career.
Fineman just says whatever he thinks will get him on whichever TV program. He’s a different animal when talking to Kieth Olbermann.
Bayh seems to think the blogosphere only noticed the last few days of his pathetic and corrupt career. Not true–he’s been persona non grata at FDL for years.
Do they require a unanimous vote?
And you’re speaking rather hopefully of the same committee that funded an anti-equality mass mailing on behalf of a christianist conservadem in 2008, right?
http://www.pageoneq.com/news/2008/indiana102908.html
Thanks Teddy.
If Evan is so worried about deficits, he can call for increased tax rates for Americans with ultra high net worth.
I’ll try not to hold that against him as much as I do him working for the NYT.
Mrs. Bayh’s hirings have been affirmative action hirings in the nature of a bribe to Birch Evans Bayh III. Since people dislike ugly truths about themselves it is natural that he didn’t like being called out. BEB III’s manner of departure seems to have been calculated to do as much damage as possible to Congressional Democrats. It assures the loss of a Senate seat and if one of the U.S. Representatives in Indiana abandons their seat to run for the Senate that seat too will be lost. All around a nice piece of sabotage.
Me too.
Has this man ever really had to think deeply about the meaning of his own life…? Doesn’t sound like it.
Meanwhile, after the stories of Americans that Obama must have heard day in, day out, for two years out on the presidential campaign and all over this nation, I wonder how he can take some of these DCers seriously a lot of the time.