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GOP Senators threaten that using reconciliation to pass health care reform, or student loan reform, would be the end of the Senate as we know it.
Lindsay Graham, in Politico (sorry, no link):
“Many Republicans who were ready to pull the trigger on the nuclear option on judges are now glad they didn’t,” Graham said. “This place would have ceased to function as we know it. If they do health care through reconciliation, it will be the same consequence.
GlueHorse McCain:
"To go to the 51 votes, instead of this traditional 60 in the United States Senate, will have cataclysmic effects."
John Thune promises flying fur:
"If they go down that road, I think the fur is going to fly," Senate Republican Conference Vice Chairman John Thune (S.D.) said. "I suspect that there is going to be an awful lot of resistance, and we will exercise our prerogatives so that the rules of the Senate are respected."
Judd Gregg (who you’ll note is identified in the approved Village manner as Obama’s first choice as Commerce Secretary in this WaPo segment):
“That would be the Chicago approach to governing: Strong-arm it through,” said Sen. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.), who briefly considered joining the Obama administration as commerce secretary. “You’re talking about the exact opposite of bipartisan. You’re talking about running over the minority, putting them in cement and throwing them in the Chicago River
All this dire Senate dysfunction! Imagine the United States Senate thrown off its smoothly running processes! Just think, the Senate might actually pass something!
These superannuated, pampered snotwaggles are so out-of-touch, they think their empty threat that the Senate as we know it would end is a BAD thing. For the American people, that is an outcome devoutly to be wished.
In fact, that’s the point, you mooks.
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It is as if they think they provide some benefit in the Senate’s current form, while nothing could be further from the truth.
No, they are playing on the meme of “the comity of the Senate” too bad the only ones who have been practicing that for the last 24 months are the Dems.
I don’t usually say this, but fuck them. It is clear they are either bought and sold or suffering from terminal Jethro Bodine-ism.
“the
comitycomedy of the Senate”Fixed it for ya.
Yeah, I always think that when I hear or write that phrase. Too bad these guys would be boo’d off the stage an any open mike night in the nation.
Gotta love that sendoff. Rec’d!
Thanks, Jason!
hehehehe
Yeh, he had me at snotwaggle . . . the man’s pure genius ain’t he . . *G*
*blushing*
If you click through to the WaPo Judd Gregg link, you will find that it comes from the future: dateline March 18, 2009. And not our future, either; next Wednesday is March 17th.
(Teddy – that’s ’09 not ’10)
Well, you are right! Blogging without coffee, that’s the ticket!
Glad I didn’t put that in the post itself…
2009…last year?
but who can tell? it’s always deja vu in the echo chamber.
Reading the linked article further, I think I can be very easily forgiven for mixing up the year: the picture painted therein varies not a whit from our current predicament, and illustrates my point better than I could have imagined:
Actually the U.S. would be much better off it the Senate was put to an end. Reform this “system?” The system is in need of something far more dramatic and transformational than the illusion that “elections” provide.
Well, I think you’d have to file that under “never, ever, going to happen”. It would take a Constitutional Amendment. While you might get 3/4 of the States to vote for it, it also requires a 2/3 vote of the Senate and House. No body in the world is going to vote to abolish itself.
Under the current system that’s true. The current system, however, is so corrupt that the system will not hold and eventually a new system that serves the needs of the people will be created.
If we promised the current incumbents enriching sinecures for life, perhaps they’d go along with the program were there a sufficiently dire alternative.
Oh, who am I kidding? They already HAVE sinecures for life!
“That’s my mealticket peon, try to fuck with this senators cash flow and I will have you erased”, (choose the senator of choice to insert) (Choose a location to insert senator)
Do we really need a Senate? Is this Rome? I’m afraid it is. :)
“To go to the 51 votes, instead of this traditional 60 in the United States Senate, will have cataclysmic effects.”
To the losers with a R behind their name: Win the F***ing election to run the country. According to the last election the country rejected your white supremest views and radical Texas christian crusades against the Moslem religion.
and instead we are now ruled by the neo-liberals that subscribe to the hegemony of the corporate state and the rule of the people by the elites. What a choice elections give.
this pitchfork and torch are becoming heavy…
There will still be no rule denying any Senator that wants to to vote no. Sixty ‘nos’ would still be allowed so I have no idea what they are bitching about.
“Heh heh heh . . . he said ‘mooks’ . . . heh heh heh.”
*G*
Opening day is ever closer, fans.
heh let’s play two
As for the Senate, fuck ‘em.
Like you, I really don’t see a downside here.
Alternatively, we might ask them if the GOP’s 16 uses of reconciliation since 1980 mean the Senate no longer exists!
It would be interesting to watch them trying to explain why it’s okay when they use it, but not when the Ds use it. (For some value of interesting that includes listening to a lot of bald-faced lying.)
GOP Senators threaten that using reconciliation to pass health care reform, or student loan reform, would be the end of the Senate as we know it.
Oh. I thought it meant the end of civilization as we know it. I stand corrected.
Had to lookup what a ‘mook’ is; the second definition “derogatory term to describe an undesirable individual.” is what you meant, right?
In Caontonese mook jung is a wooden dummy used in martial arts training.
Rec’d for superannuated snotwaggles.